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So my new GTX 580 PNY card is 6 weeks old, and for the last 4 weeks it has been recovering from a driver failure problem when playing LoL, i figured riots patch from 4 weeks ago was the reason i would crash once a game or get 10-15second frezzeing problems.
Today for the first time it happend in another game WoW so its not riot.
What can cause this?
ran two mem test over the last and both showed the ram fine.
heat stays between 40-50c for ym cpu while my gpu runs around 40 give or take a few.
tried uninstalling the drivers and reinstalling the new ones the card has (there dated last month) updated my onboard sound card with realtek drivers (uninstalled those today as i thought they where the problem after spending sevral hours google)
i am stumped as it does not list anything other then "nivida drivers have recovered from a failure basicly" no dll no error codes nothing sometimes it does not even say that it just crash's my league of legends game with no msg at all.
And for wow today it gave me the we have recoverd msg.
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Can you borrow another GPU to test?
Could be a bad card.
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only other 2 cards i have is a VEY old ati card, wont even run wow very well at lowest settings lol and my wifes new ati that wont work in my pc without buying a powercord aparter as it seems to need its own kind that my pins wont work with
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Depending on where you bought it from you might be able to take it in and exchange it just to make sure it isn't the card if you kept the packaging and receipt and they have a 60 day or greater return policy. Had that happen to me a couple years ago with a nividia i bought and some times it would work fine and others it would freeze up and when i reboot I'd get a driver error of some kind. Took it back and exchanged for a new one and never had a problem again.
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its from bestbuy website bought the PNY for the LTW atlest, just dont wana ship it off till i am sure tis the problem.
and my system does not lock up or crash just the game itself once the driver recovers if the game didnt crash the game keeps going.
sometimes if i can alt tab fast enough then back in it stops the freeze/crash right away.
edit after hours today it seems every fix was a bandaid from removing 1 stick of ram reinstalling drivers useing a old card then the new one again etc.. no one but for one had any fix that lasted longer then a week and that was the realtek drivers ( and his fix was posted last month) and that lasted 2 games for me lol.
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Might be a bad driver file or somesuch. Did you try driversweeper (http://www.phyxion.net/)? Run that and ccleaner (http://www.piriform.com/).
Download the latest drivers and reinstall.
I had a similar problem and it seems to be gone now after doing that.
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2 things come to mind...NEVER USE THE LATEST DRIVERS with a NVIDIA card, second is your PSU may not be supplying the correct voltage CONTINUALLY.
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Greybear1andonly posted:
2 things come to mind...NEVER USE THE LATEST DRIVERS with a NVIDIA card, second is your PSU may not be supplying the correct voltage CONTINUALLY.
I don't know why #1 is even mentioned but #2 is definitely plausible. If the 12v Rail is overloaded, this could be your problem.
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Who knows....wait, I do.
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The only three things I have seen commonly cause this are (in this order) Unstable factory overclock, drivers, power supply.
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http://www.plugloadsolutions.com/psu_reports/ALIENWARE-NPS-750AB-1%20B.pdf
thats my PS unless its crap or bad it should not be the problem.
Used driver sweeper and went back to the 275.33 drivers will test them today see if it happens still
"the 12v Rail is overloaded"
How would i test this to see if the wiring is having problems?
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up still crashed from lol once and froze for 10seconds another time in 1 game.
PC didnt crash just the game closed and driver recoverd running the older 275.33 driver set.
core temps where 58 and 59 high with my gpu hiting 63 all below there max levels.
So does not seem to be a driver issuse or a sound conflict leaves a bad card shiped or a power problem and i have no clue how to check the power.
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Start by returning the card since it is still under warranty. And its more than possible for the card to be the issue.
If that checks out the same as the present card, you go through and find what changed about the system from the time you installed it to the time it started to fail.
Easiest way to check a PSU thats working that you suspect is failing is to lighten the strain and see if the problem stays the same or gets better/worse.
But Also check the Capacitors on the motherboard to make sure they are not buldging anywhere.
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Here are things i would try and you have done so on several:
1. vidcard drivers- make sure compatible with your pc brand too if its a prebuilt aka dell/hp etc. also correct driver for your OS. my laptop will not accept the new driver yet bc its an HP. make sure to do a clean install of drivers.
2. vidcard- maybe bad card or overclock. try with another card or place your card in another pc to see if the prbm transfers to that pc.
3. PSU- your psu should be fine to run your stuff but if its bad or weak then replace it. u can buy psu testers. only way to test it is to place loads(voltage demands like video card/motherboard/hdd etc) on the psu. the psu tester will apply loads to it and see if it fails. also you might find a pc repair shop that will test the psu for you.
4. possible but unlikely is a bad motherboard. try placing card into another slot if you have it. also make sure your card is in the correct slot but really shouldnt matter.
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never heard of vidcard drivers needing to be compatable with a brand before just the card and mobo.
and both of mine are.
hell i even went back to an older version that ran fine for months with 0 problems on my 280 before i replaced it.
card is not OC and a bad card would have problems with all games right? played from 9-11 on wow and 11-1 in STW2 useing dx11 max settings with 0 problems.
did one game of league of legends after that and it crashed twice with no error or recovery msg.
LoL is the only game i have had problems with but for 1 recovery while playing wow while doing youtube 2 forums and a few other things in the background.
Can lol be corrupting the drivers some how for some odd reason?
and yes tried re-downloading and installing the game.
if its the PSU would it not have more problems in a MMO game like STW2 then a simple lol game?
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isnt LoL a fairly new game? there might be some issues with certain vidcards with that game but im not sure.
yes brands can make a difference but usually they dont anymore. i just know the new driver for my nvidia card for my laptop is not functioning correctly yet. i think thats just the issue with the driver itself though.
but yea if its happening to just one game in particular then i would see about the specs for that game and what type of vidcard you may need. some drivers may not be set to run LoL as efficiently as it should for certain vidcards while other games have no issues. thats why im asking if LoL is new.
to me personally it sounds like a driver compatibility with the game(s).
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well i think i have fixed it and no lol is not new been out for over a year and i been playing for close to 2 counting beta time.
1. Open REGEDIT
2. Using Windows 7, go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet002\Control\ GraphicsDrivers
3. Once there you will most likely have to create a new DWORD (32bit users) or QWORD (64bit users). Name it TdrDelay.
4. Once created, change the value to 8. This will allow the GPU 8 seconds to respond instead of 2 seconds.
used that fix from another site, played 2 games now with 0 problems.
edit 3 games now lol, was this fix safe?
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