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A lot of people are going to dis-reguard this post, since I am an outsider to this server. Some of you, as you did in general chat will insult me and call me a liar. As a general warning, i am saying i don't care, so say whatever you want. I will not respond to your flames.
That being said, i KNOW some of you, will keep an open mind and listen to what i have to say, and for that i say, thank you. Ask yourself just one question before reading, what do I have to gain by doing this? If he had really honored the full agreement, WHY would I take the time to write this? I have completed Four cross server trades in Two days and not ONE single person stole from me, those deals were completed, I thanked them very much and moved to the next server.
The point of this post, is to warn you of Mad Monger/DoomHerald. Two months ago, i returned from 3 years of not playing AC and just recently discovered that AC gave out writs of apologies to make up for some trouble during the time i had quit, and i have started doing cross server trades to trade the bags of salvage (fool proof) from each server (i have rank chains on every server, so each server has 5-6 characters that get writs) for the same amount on HG.
Because every server's prices vary, i rarely set prices when i visit, i simply say what I am selling, and let people make offers, and if it seems reasonable, i accept. While on TD, i made my announcement and Mad Monger (thats the character he used) offered to take my 5 bags here, in return he would give me 7 on HG. In my mind, i reasoned he was offering 2 extra, simply because it beats having to go through the hassle of trading those 2 extra bags accross server and it was simply easier to sacrifice 2 on a server he doesn't play and get 5 on one he does.
Anyways, we start the trade, i have two accounts logged in, one here, one on HG, but he can only do one at a time, so he gives me 3 on HG, tells me to give him the 5 on TD and then he would come back and give me the final 4, and so then logs in to TD and i give him the 5 i had (common sense should have told me to stick with 3, but i was VERY short on time as i had to go to work in minutes, so i gave him the 5) and then he never returned to Harvestgain. I waited 30 minutes, assuming he was simply having computer problems, but nothing. During that 30 minutes I continually did ISO messages with his name in it, nothing. However, his DoomHerald, monarch (Mervie) did respond and asked what the situation was, so I explained it in detail and he tells me that Doom is pretty honest and wouldn’t steal and so we were both betting it was a computer problem and I told Mervie that I didn’t want to cause any trouble, but if Mad didn’t complete the agreed upon trade, I would start posting on VN and in general chat that he stole from me (he accepted 5 bags on TD but only provided 3 on HG) simply to warn everyone about it so they wouldn’t fall for the scam and he agreed that waiting 9 hours to see if it could be resolved was reasonable.
Okay, 9 hours later, I come home and I had left the toon on HG logged in at the exact spot the trade was supposed to be completed at, so if it was a computer problem, he could just hand the 4 bags to my guy, nothing. After logging into TD to see if I could find him and figure out what happened, several people in general chat advise me that Mad Monger has another character named Doomherald, so I message him and all I said was, “Hello†and he starts demanding to know who I am to try and cause trouble for him, spams that 3 times and then turns private chat off, so I can’t message him. Because of that move, I had to take it into general chat and he refuses to admit that he stole from me, gets all upset, threatens bodily harm to my mother, threatens to choke me if I was near him, etc. During all of this, he claims he is innocent and that I am the bad guy and accusses me of verbally assaulting him, yet I never once made a negative remark against him, simply continued to tell him that if he just honored the agreement HE proposed, even if it was done in private, I would happily go away, as I only wanted what was promised OR at least that he return 2 bags of the salvage I gave him on TD, so it would truly be 3/3. He refused, stating that I only gave him 3 bags, but I have 5 characters on TD, all of which qualified for the writs, which are now all gone. You can see at this post, how many writs I had on each server as of this morning, to back up the fact that I did indeed have 5 on TD. http://vnboards.ign.com/the_big_trade_bazaar/b21967/115345800/p1/?2
Again, I DO NOT CARE if you don’t believe me, I didn’t take a screen shot because he truly seemed like a good person and I just returned from a long absence and forgot about people like this. The only reason I took the time to write this message, is so people will know that they MUST be more careful when dealing with him, a lot of people yelled at me for lieing and that he is such a trust worthy person etc etc, but plenty of people private messages me telling me that they knew he was shady, but never thought he would steal, well, news flash he has. Please be careful when trading with him, he honestly seems like a nice person, but cover your back, take screen shots if he offers you a deal and never give him items, until he has fully given you the items you guys agreed on, if cross server trading or even trading in general.
On HG, one bag of fool proof salvage sells for roughly 150 MMDs, the 4 bags he refuses to pay up, total a loss of 600 MMDs for myself, and since he received 2 more bags on TD than he paid for on HG, he profited 350 on TD and still has 4 bags to sell on HG, which is 600, plus the 350 he profited on TD, he gains 950, all he has to do is cross server trade the MMDs to TD, which is easy enough. That is plenty of motivation to steal. When I mentioned the amount he owed, he offers to pay me 600 MMDs, if I delete all my TD accounts and post a humiliating video on you tube, which I declined and made this post as I warned him I would do.
Stay safe everyone! Feel free to do a rep check on HG for those that question me, main character is Dj Cide. A lott of people there have known me a great many years and can provide evidence that I would never accuse someone of stealing if it wasn’t true.
****Anyone that starts harassing me will be reported to mods, so keep it civil please.*****
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I am not certain if Mad is an alt of Doom, but from the troll comments and the verbiage used by Mad, I am quite certain that Mad is being played by Zen Ko aka Devil's Mage II. If Mad is an alt of Doom, then Zen must have access or control of the account.
I am sorry to hear of your problems and frustrations. Good luck on resolving them.
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I thank you for the kind words. I have no concrete proof that Mad is Doom, but in the last 3 years, i have done absolutely no trades on ThistleDown, except for yesterday and only with Mad Monger, there have literally been no other trades, so when i asked in General chat for Mad, i was told he was on Doom right now, so i messaged him and he freaks out and starts yelling at me. Again, hes the only one i traded with at all, so that is what makes me sure they are the same person.
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Also, Doom is known to play mind and manipulation games as well as a variety of troll methods to get people upset. He seems to thrive on the drama it creates.
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Gibbon_raver posted:
I am not certain if Mad is an alt of Doom, but from the troll comments and the verbiage used by Mad, I am quite certain that Mad is being played by Zen Ko aka Devil's Mage II. If Mad is an alt of Doom, then Zen must have access or control of the account.
I am sorry to hear of your problems and frustrations. Good luck on resolving them.
Glad I'm still on your mind, David. I actually haven't played AC since March, I have been in Knoxville since then and I didn't bring my computer. But still, you made me LoL quite loudly.
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.-Zen-Ko-. posted:
Gibbon_raver posted:
I am not certain if Mad is an alt of Doom, but from the troll comments and the verbiage used by Mad, I am quite certain that Mad is being played by Zen Ko aka Devil's Mage II. If Mad is an alt of Doom, then Zen must have access or control of the account.
I am sorry to hear of your problems and frustrations. Good luck on resolving them.
Glad I'm still on your mind, David. I actually haven't played AC since March, I have been in Knoxville since then and I didn't bring my computer. But still, you made me LoL quite loudly.
Figured it was only a matter of time before you showed up Doom.
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Dj_cide. posted:
.-Zen-Ko-. posted:
Gibbon_raver posted:
I am not certain if Mad is an alt of Doom, but from the troll comments and the verbiage used by Mad, I am quite certain that Mad is being played by Zen Ko aka Devil's Mage II. If Mad is an alt of Doom, then Zen must have access or control of the account.
I am sorry to hear of your problems and frustrations. Good luck on resolving them.
Glad I'm still on your mind, David. I actually haven't played AC since March, I have been in Knoxville since then and I didn't bring my computer. But still, you made me LoL quite loudly.
Figured it was only a matter of time before you showed up Doom.
Lmao this really too funny. Bro, I haven't played AC in 5 months, nor have I had the desire to play. Other important things to worry about. But if you don't believe me, ask around bro, people know me<3.
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.-Zen-Ko-. posted:
Gibbon_raver posted:
I am not certain if Mad is an alt of Doom, but from the troll comments and the verbiage used by Mad, I am quite certain that Mad is being played by Zen Ko aka Devil's Mage II. If Mad is an alt of Doom, then Zen must have access or control of the account.
I am sorry to hear of your problems and frustrations. Good luck on resolving them.
Glad I'm still on your mind, David. I actually haven't played AC since March, I have been in Knoxville since then and I didn't bring my computer. But still, you made me LoL quite loudly.
I find it rather interesting that very soon after my chat in /cg you make a post here, although, someone could have emailed or phoned you as to what was up, but, on the other hand, Doom is ig and I cannot imagine Doom not here posting numerous troll bait comments.
Obviously, you are on a computer now.
*shrug* Whatever the case may be, it is a sad thing that things like this occur so frequently.
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.-Zen-Ko-. posted:
Gibbon_raver posted:
I am not certain if Mad is an alt of Doom, but from the troll comments and the verbiage used by Mad, I am quite certain that Mad is being played by Zen Ko aka Devil's Mage II. If Mad is an alt of Doom, then Zen must have access or control of the account.
I am sorry to hear of your problems and frustrations. Good luck on resolving them.
Glad I'm still on your mind, David. I actually haven't played AC since March, I have been in Knoxville since then and I didn't bring my computer. But still, you made me LoL quite loudly.
Made me laugh too. What really added insult ot injury was doomherald was online and said, no Mad Monger is my toon, that was me last night who was playing Mad Monger. Despite this, Berek still persisted saying that it MUST have been Zen Ko.
He squelched my toons then asked general who else I played so he could squelch them too for pointing out the falacy of his 'bulletproof logic' that Zen Ko = Mad Monger...
He must really hate you to jump to such an absurd conclusion, what happened?
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@David- I am not on a computer..I am on my phone, it has internet capabilities.
@Kurp- First of all, Hi! <3 and second of all..idk, David has had a vendetta against me for quite some time, even after I've been gone for an extended period of time, he has me on his mind.
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KurpalOriginal posted:
.-Zen-Ko-. posted:
Gibbon_raver posted:
I am not certain if Mad is an alt of Doom, but from the troll comments and the verbiage used by Mad, I am quite certain that Mad is being played by Zen Ko aka Devil's Mage II. If Mad is an alt of Doom, then Zen must have access or control of the account.
I am sorry to hear of your problems and frustrations. Good luck on resolving them.
Glad I'm still on your mind, David. I actually haven't played AC since March, I have been in Knoxville since then and I didn't bring my computer. But still, you made me LoL quite loudly.
Made me laugh too. What really added insult ot injury was doomherald was online and said, no Mad Monger is my toon, that was me last night who was playing Mad Monger. Despite this, Berek still persisted saying that it MUST have been Zen Ko.
He squelched my toons then asked general who else I played so he could squelch them too for pointing out the falacy of his 'bulletproof logic' that Zen Ko = Mad Monger...
He must really hate you to jump to such an absurd conclusion, what happened?
I said it was a "hunch" and my "opinion".
I asked who rawrtard's main was, because I was surprised that I had already had one of his chars squelched, which I explained in /cg as well. I squelched your toon, because you were twisting words and putting words in my mouth, somewhat like you did here.
Twisting words out of proportion seems to be a skill with your lot.
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Dj_cide. posted:
Figured it was only a matter of time before you showed up Doom.
Just so you get a better picture on this, Zen ko is NOT the same person as Doomherald, Berek is confused. Doomherald = Mad monger and said it was indeed him and him alone that was playing his toon the other night.
This is doomherald:
http://my.ign.com/club-board?username=DoomheraldTD&which=boards
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I said it was a "hunch" and my "opinion".
I asked who rawrtard's main was, because I was surprised that I had already had one of his chars squelched, which I explained in /cg as well. I squelched your toon, because you were twisting words and putting words in my mouth, somewhat like you did here.
Twisting words out of proportion seems to be a skill with your lot.
I did no such twisting and quoted you DIRECTLY from this thread.
Gibbon_raver posted:
I am quite certain that Mad is being played by Zen Ko aka Devil's Mage II. If Mad is an alt of Doom, then Zen must have access or control of the account.
You did not, in any way shape or form, suggest it was merely a "hunch" you expressed certainty and did so again in /cg tonight. Spin all you like but you cannot change what you said. You were CERTAIN that mad monger = zen ko. You also said again that by his troll comments and the thief post it reaffirmed your certainty.
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http://vnboards.ign.com/thistledown/b5157/115104685/p1/?18
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http://vnboards.ign.com/thistledown/b5157/115104685/p1/?18
He came back after that. It's the original doom from before he supposedly sold the account (never saw another toon actually play it however...).
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KurpalOriginal posted:
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I said it was a "hunch" and my "opinion".
I asked who rawrtard's main was, because I was surprised that I had already had one of his chars squelched, which I explained in /cg as well. I squelched your toon, because you were twisting words and putting words in my mouth, somewhat like you did here.
Twisting words out of proportion seems to be a skill with your lot.
I did no such twisting and quoted you DIRECTLY from this thread.
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I am quite certain that Mad is being played by Zen Ko aka Devil's Mage II. If Mad is an alt of Doom, then Zen must have access or control of the account.
You did not, in any way shape or form, suggest it was merely a "hunch" you expressed certainty and did so again in /cg tonight. Spin all you like but you cannot change what you said. You were CERTAIN that mad monger = zen ko. You also said again that by his troll comments and the thief post it reaffirmed your certainty.
I will give you that is what I said in this thread, but we are talking about what I said in /cg. I said "confirmed my suspicions". I did use the terms "hunch" and "opinion". Of course, this all comes down to "he said, she said" and unless there were screen shots it is all just spam.
Regardless of what either of you say, especially with this thread sequence, I am even more convinced of my suspicions. That is all. I am done.
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I will give you that is what I said in this thread, but we are talking about what I said in /cg. I said "confirmed my suspicions". I did use the terms "hunch" and "opinion". Of course, this all comes down to "he said, she said" and unless there were screen shots it is all just spam.
Regardless of what either of you say, especially with this thread sequence, I am even more convinced of my suspicions. That is all. I am done.
"Confirmed my suspicions" sounds as if you are pretty certain there - as if you had actual evidence which you didn't.
You still think that Mad Monger was being played by Zen Ko despite the fact that Doomherald himself said it was HIM that was playing? What planet are you on right now?
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KurpalOriginal posted:
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I will give you that is what I said in this thread, but we are talking about what I said in /cg. I said "confirmed my suspicions". I did use the terms "hunch" and "opinion". Of course, this all comes down to "he said, she said" and unless there were screen shots it is all just spam.
Regardless of what either of you say, especially with this thread sequence, I am even more convinced of my suspicions. That is all. I am done.
"Confirmed my suspicions" sounds as if you are pretty certain there - as if you had actual evidence which you didn't.
You still think that Mad Monger was being played by Zen Ko despite the fact that Doomherald himself said it was HIM that was playing? What planet are you on right now?
I never understood why you were pressing that argument earlier either. 
EDIT: Now I am done, sort of like my FINAL LAST CALL on quests, which could be the first final last call. 
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Yes David, seriously. Like, really, where are you?
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I am quite certain I dont care who he "really" is, all i know is he owes me 4 bags of fool proof salvage, or the equivalent on HG, until then i will continue to bump this thread and spread the word on TD through general chat, that he is a scammer and shouldn't be trusted. It wont affect everyone, but there are a certain amount of people that actually use their brains and will be more weary when dealing with him.
If he honors the agreement HE offered, then I have no reason to keep this thread a live and go back to normal business.
The sole point I want everyone to understand, is if he had full filled the agreement like he says, I would never have made this post, because you never insult a business partner once a deal has been full-filled, its just something you don't do and everyone knows that. You never know when you will have future business to take to them.
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Sorry, but even though I said I was done, I thought that it was important to explain why I have my suspicions.
From /CG Tuesday night.
Someone said, "MAURY MAURY"
Berek Heartthew said, "MARY HARTMAN MARY HARTMAN"
Someone said, "MOUNTAIN ROCK"
Berek Heartthew said, "FRAGGLE ROCK"
Mad Monger said, "Interesting that Berek should call out a children's show"
Mad Monger said, "It must give Berek his best pickup lines"
Mad Monger said, "I sill love ya bro, lol"
First thought in my brain was; "Zen Ko is playing Mad Monger?", as the above is Zen's favorite troll against me, plus the "I still love ya bro". That is simply not a Doomherald signature.
Tonight I see this thief thread about Mad Monger. I do not like either Zen or Doom, but I know that Doom is not a thief and I know that Zen can be untrustworthy, so my original suspicion is apparently confirmed. Much less, the new circumstantial evidence mentioned above.
Of course, this could also be some bizarre scheme by Doom and he is laughing his ass off right now, but I cannot get around the various circumstantial, anecdotal evidence.
TTFN.
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Well, you got me there, David. That is my favorite way to say something truthful and get a reaction from You..no doubting that. But maybe somebody else knows that you have a niche for children. Perhaps you can't get your head around this part, but I have not played AC in 5 months. But shit man, if you wanna give me that much power over you, I will gladly continue to affect you while I am not even playing this game.
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Ohhhhh DRAMA!!! Tag for reading at work =P
BTW Doom = Saint of all Saints. Make no mistake, if the man says he's innocent, the pope is behind him nodding his head.
AHAHAHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAROFL
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Mad Monger is Doom for sure.
For all i know about Doom though, Dj_cide might be Doom just having some fun.
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Yeah, Doomherald(his sword)/Koto Chotan(his mage)/Mad Monger(his archer) all the same person.
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Keeping it bumped.
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"Seriously man, you know we had an agreement, you know you ripped me off and I am not going away, so heres a solution. We all know asherons call is not very stable and glitches a lot. So IF you return my 4 bags of FP on HG, I will reply to the post saying it was a glitch with AC and 2 days after the trade the material showed up in my inventory and that that you didn't steal anything (when in fact, we both know you did).
If interested, PM me here, other wise i will continue to bump my VN post and everytime I happen to see you trying to do a trade, anywhere, I will tell that person you are a thief and not to be trusted. I have set up a trade bott in MP that will continually tell people in main chat and in general chat, you are a thief. Whats it going to be?"
Private message from DJ_cide. Cmon now man.. I seriously gave away everything I owned on Thistledown bc Tue server was so depleted. If I was playing AC right now, I wouldn't be playing TD, that's for sure. As I've said a few times now, I haven't played in over 5 months. Seriously bro, take some time and ask around if anyone has seen me, or to read some oldder threads.
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.-Zen-Ko-. posted:
Well, you got me there, David. That is my favorite way to say something truthful and get a reaction from You..no doubting that. But maybe somebody else knows that you have a niche for children. Perhaps you can't get your head around this part, but I have not played AC in 5 months. But shit man, if you wanna give me that much power over you, I will gladly continue to affect you while I am not even playing this game.
Clearly you affected the guy. I wonder if he also sees your name in his morning cereal. AMG ZEN AGAIN! AHHH!
I have heard other people use the pedophile joke for Berek and I know doom will say anything that can get under someone else's skin. Doom had all of his trademarked insults running last night, I have no doubt it was the original doom.
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.-Zen-Ko-. posted:
Private message from DJ_cide. Cmon now man.. I seriously gave away everything I owned on Thistledown bc Tue server was so depleted. If I was playing AC right now, I wouldn't be playing TD, that's for sure. As I've said a few times now, I haven't played in over 5 months. Seriously bro, take some time and ask around if anyone has seen me, or to read some oldder threads.
I guess there is someone that believes berek, however unfounded and illogical his argument is for zen ko = doomherald...
DJ_cide, Doomherald is online right now if you actually want to try to get ahold of the person playing doom. Just a hint, it's not Zen Ko from these boards, his name is "DoomheraldTD" on these boards but I guess he is banned.
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Bump before work. And i did get a hold of him yesterday Kurpal, he was nothing but rude and refussed to honor his agreement.
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Bump before work. And i did get a hold of him yesterday Kurpal, he was nothing but rude and refussed to honor his agreement.
You can bet he never will. In Doom's history, this is a rather small infraction. On the plus side though, he no longer is in Mervie who is otherwise a fantastic group of people.
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So..........................................Doom is a thief???   
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If you are only missing by two, I'll give you two FP's of your choice on HG.
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Bump.
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Bumptotopofthepage
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It actually says a lot about you, Mad, that other people that aren't even involved offer to replace part of what you stole, yet you refuse to even admit you were wrong. Atleast I can see that not all of TD is like you.
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i did not read all of this but i am certain zen ko is NOT doom and never has/will be on his account, nice try tho moronnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn, as for the items that were stolen , i have my thought but no comments TYVM
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Dj_cide. posted:
Keeping it bumped.
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Lol why bother bumping this thread, its not like its gonna disappear to page 2 from all the other new posts on TD/VN. We are lucky to get 3 new posts a month.
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i did not read all of this but i am certain zen ko is NOT doom and never has/will be on his account, nice try tho moronnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn, as for the items that were stolen , i have my thought but no comments TYVM
What he said.
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Bedtime bump.
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Guys Doom might not really care about your feelings and do what he wants some times. Just a PSA.
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Guys Doom might not really care about your feelings and do what he wants some times. Just a PSA.
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Guys Doom might not really care about your feelings and do what he wants some times. Just a PSA.
That doesn't give him the right to be an ass hole and steal from others.
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Clearly a case of he said/she said. Two words: Judge Judy.
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Clearly a case of he said/she said. Two words: Judge Judy.
Screw Judge Judy, Be better on springer.
Jerry Jerry Jerry Jerry
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Clearly a case of he said/she said. Two words: Judge Judy.
In the case of "he said/she said" between a nameless stranger and Doom, i take the word of the nameless stranger any day ;-)
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If this goes on jerry springer, than im likely to get hit by a chair or some other flying object
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If this goes on jerry springer, than im likely to get hit by a chair or some other flying object
This is true.
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