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Topic: @The Captain America production team.

telwelas Title: Keeper of the Unf Posts: 20,722 Registered: Aug 10, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 18,918 User ID: 705,170	Subject: @The Captain America production team.
	#$& you. Your entire movie was bulls$t. The action scenes were boring. The love interest lacked anything interesting. The dialogue was a stew of retched bile from every other asinine action movie ever made, and then blended and reduced down for the Idiocracy quotient. SUCH. GODDAMN. CRAP. -----signature----- ^_^~.:tel:.~^_^ account closed :. http://gimpchimp.etilader.com/s.php?u=telwelas dj site :. http://petersimon.webdevnull.com
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Daimar Title: Moderator DAoC Knight - Generalist Posts: 57,526 Registered: Nov 5, '04 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 47,007 User ID: 987,256	Subject: @The Captain America production team.
	STRONG WORDS! -----signature----- LGM Tailor x3, SC x3, AC x3, WC x3, Alch x3, Fletch http://gimpchimp.etilader.com/s.php?u=daimar babies cry a lot, but then they smile at you and you stop throwing them into the wall. - Goatstar
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Rhylith_Galahad Posts: 2,819 Registered: Aug 4, '03 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 1,931 User ID: 828,072	Subject: @The Captain America production team.
	telwelas posted: #$& you. Your entire movie was bulls$t. The action scenes were boring. The love interest lacked anything interesting. The dialogue was a stew of retched bile from every other asinine action movie ever made, and then blended and reduced down for the Idiocracy quotient. SUCH. GODDAMN. CRAP. Disagree so strongly oh man. Action scenes...eh there's been better, though I thought the integration of the shield into the gunfights was handled very well. They did kinda montage through big chunks of the middle of the story though, you're right about this. Overall it was also much more violent than most pg13 superhero movies, with people getting very visibly shot, blown up, or blended in propellers. Also, the method of defeating Red Skull was silly, but it tied in DIRECTLY with Thor and will undoubtedly play a role in The Avengers based on Thor's post-credits scene. The love interest was perfectly capable of defending herself and fought in some scenes, which is one step up from basically every other superhero movie love interest. The dialogue being dumbed down is probably the part I disagree with the most, especially the scenes with Stanley Tucci (Dr. Erskine). The conversation with the schnapps before he takes the serum and the "So you want to kill nazis" conversation in particular were very well written. It's hard to keep Steve Rogers an interesting character for 2 hours but the supporting cast around him (Tucci and Tommy Lee Jones in particular) was strong enough to do so. Most importantly though, the way the movie integrates into the universe of the other Marvel movies made it much more enjoyable. I don't know if you've seen the other ones yet, but there were so many Thor and Iron Man tie-ins in this movie, and it did a great job of setting up the Avengers. My opinion, it was better than Thor (which I also thoroughly enjoyed) and Iron Man 2 (which I enjoyed the least out of the Marvel productions), worse than Iron Man 1 (which is easily in my top 3 superhero movies). I haven't watched the latest Hulk in a while and should probably do that again to refresh my memory. -----signature----- (none)
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Lasrael_Hellblade Title: L of ~TL~: VN Justice League Posts: 9,086 Registered: Sep 29, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 8,035 User ID: 721,639	Subject: @The Captain America production team.
	/Shoa Kahn ROUND 2... FIGHT! -----signature----- XBL and PSN: Shad0wn9ne
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telwelas Title: Keeper of the Unf Posts: 20,722 Registered: Aug 10, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 18,918 User ID: 705,170	Subject: @The Captain America production team.
	Rhylith_Galahad posted: Disagree so strongly oh man. 1. Action scenes...eh there's been better, though I thought the integration of the shield into the gunfights was handled very well. They did kinda montage through big chunks of the middle of the story though, you're right about this. Overall it was also much more violent than most pg13 superhero movies, with people getting very visibly shot, blown up, or blended in propellers. Also, the method of defeating Red Skull was silly, but it tied in DIRECTLY with Thor and will undoubtedly play a role in The Avengers based on Thor's post-credits scene. 2. The love interest was perfectly capable of defending herself and fought in some scenes, which is one step up from basically every other superhero movie love interest. 3. The dialogue being dumbed down is probably the part I disagree with the most, especially the scenes with Stanley Tucci (Dr. Erskine). The conversation with the schnapps before he takes the serum and the "So you want to kill nazis" conversation in particular were very well written. It's hard to keep Steve Rogers an interesting character for 2 hours but the supporting cast around him (Tucci and Tommy Lee Jones in particular) was strong enough to do so. 4. Most importantly though, the way the movie integrates into the universe of the other Marvel movies made it much more enjoyable. I don't know if you've seen the other ones yet, but there were so many Thor and Iron Man tie-ins in this movie, and it did a great job of setting up the Avengers. 5. My opinion, it was better than Thor (which I also thoroughly enjoyed) and Iron Man 2 (which I enjoyed the least out of the Marvel productions), worse than Iron Man 1 (which is easily in my top 3 superhero movies). I haven't watched the latest Hulk in a while and should probably do that again to refresh my memory. 1. The action scenes just felt really lackluster. Probably some combination with uninventive camera angles, sound track, cgi. Dunno. Never felt the intensity like some of those other Superhero movies; it was a chore getting through the movie and the action scenes just didn't do enough to redeem the rest of it for me. 2. The fact that the chic could throw a punch does not change anything about how uninteresting the love storyline was written and acted. I'm sure it's a little tougher if you are scripting from comic book source, as those love plots usually seem to be a bit superficial. But the chemistry on screen wasn't good, and was frought with terrible, cliched dialogue. Which brings me to 3. Overall terrible, cliched dialogue. Granted, their were a few moments like the schnapps lines that were orginal and amusing. But those moments were drowned in a sea of unremarkable dialogue that was near word for word transcribed from every other bad action movie of the last ten years. It was like a bunch of stereotype puppet characters, muttering their pre-programmed one liners each time their string was pulled. Again, part of this is source material, because you have to have the "gruff general" or the "feisty love interest", etc etc, but those Actors and Actresses were reciting for a paycheck, not acting with passion. They didn't make me believe in anything. 4. I honestly don't care about tie ins to other movies. While I think it's neat that they are expanding the Marvel world to such a degree, I want the movie to stand on it's own. It's relationship to other films is not part of my evaluation of the film itself. 5. Iron Man was better, agreed. I'd probably put Iron Man 2 above this though. RDJ is a great example of how to really become the character. Haven't seen Thor or Hulk. Anyhoo, you of course are entitled to your opinion, and the above is in no way meant to suggest that your interpretation is wrong and that you should bend to my will and analysis. This is simply how I interpreted the material as presented to me, through my eyes and ears and ideas of what makes a film good. -----signature----- ^_^~.:tel:.~^_^ account closed :. http://gimpchimp.etilader.com/s.php?u=telwelas dj site :. http://petersimon.webdevnull.com
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telwelas Title: Keeper of the Unf Posts: 20,722 Registered: Aug 10, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 18,918 User ID: 705,170	Subject: @The Captain America production team.
	Also, /SHORYUKEN. -----signature----- ^_^~.:tel:.~^_^ account closed :. http://gimpchimp.etilader.com/s.php?u=telwelas dj site :. http://petersimon.webdevnull.com
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Rhylith_Galahad Posts: 2,819 Registered: Aug 4, '03 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 1,931 User ID: 828,072	Subject: @The Captain America production team.
	Haha of course! I'm also a giant nerd and a movie buff though so basically this movie was right up my alley. I was probably predestined to enjoy it for reasons others might dislike it. Things like the two scenes I mentioned earlier, all the tie-ins to the other movies, and the way they really brought the setting to life (uso shows/war bond rallies, the world's fair, etc) really sold it to me, but I can see where it wouldn't do it for everyone. -----signature----- (none)
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Thaag_Simmons Title: I'm not even supposed to be here today! Posts: 105,401 Registered: Mar 17, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 104,248 User ID: 658,493	Subject: @The Captain America production team.
	Yay, I felt the same way Tel! For me the exposition was waaaaay too long, and yet there was nothing for the movie to do when it was over, and besides boring fight scenes (hey, CA, if you're not against using a pistol WHY DON'T YOU EFFING PICK UP ONE OF THE SUPER GUNS AND TRY FIRING THAT! ESPECIALLY WHEN RED SKELETON IS USING ONE AGAINST YOU!!!), the ending was just abrupt and meaningless to me. I didn't see Thor, I didn't read comic books, so I'm not personally stoked and super-excited about the Avengers. RLM was right when they called CA the latest feature-length teaser trailer for the Avengers. Plus waiting to see the Avengers trailer for it after the interminable credits were over? Waste of time. I think Red Letter Media mostly agrees with us Tel, if it makes you feel any better about having seen it: http://redlettermedia.com/half-in-the-bag/captain-america-and-the-rocketeer/ Couldn't agree with redundancy of the 7-minute interrogation/steak scene more. On the plus side, the CGI to make CA a tiny weakling seemed pretty good. -----signature----- http://www.orrville.com
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vn_Blitz Title: Cool Cobra Commander Posts: 11,416 Registered: Jan 2, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 8,588 User ID: 588,835	Subject: @The Captain America production team.
	Rhylith_Galahad posted: I haven't watched the latest Hulk in a while and should probably do that again to refresh my memory. It's really too bad that Ed Norton isn't being brought back for the Hulk. He was awesome in that movie. -----signature----- Caladriewen 50 Cleric, Caladd 50 RM: Galahad<CANCELLED> Calad 50 Reaver: Gareth <CANCELLED> "you people simply don't know how much awesomeness you're missing out on" -Milkand on Mirado Black Warriors LETS GO RANGERS!!!
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