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Last week Blizzard Entertainment filed for a new Trademark - "Mists of Pandaria". Could it be the next expansion? Or, even more intriguing, their next MMO? What do you think?
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Looks like Blizzard will be making a big announcement at BlizzCon. Their trademark registrations always appear a few months before BlizzCon. Remember when they trademarked 'Wrath'? I honestly can't decide if it's a new MMO or the next expac. I can't imagine they'd be announcing the next expac already but who knows? 'Pandaria' does sound a lot like what you'd call the homeland of the Pandaren Monks. :P Could be the next hero class?
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if anything could bring me back to WoW after almost 2 years, it would be the pandaren.
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next expansion would be the most likely thing.
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The reason I put their next MMO on the table is the interesting tidbit that Mike Morhaime said at last year's BlizzCon. He said two things(paraphrasing):
"The only thing I can tell you now is that it will be a new franchise unrelated to Starcraft, Warcraft or Diablo."
"Next year you'll see a lot more info about our next MMO."
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Yeah but "Mists of Pandaria" sounds very fantasy-based. I doubt they'd make another fantasy MMO to compete with their cashcow.
It's gotta be the next expansion, especially since the rumor mill a while back was saying their new MMO would be a shooter, not an RPG.
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Mists of Pandaria also sounds like Pandaren, which is Warcraft.
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Sounds stupid what ever it is.
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Rill_of_WE posted:
The reason I put their next MMO on the table is the interesting tidbit that Mike Morhaime said at last year's BlizzCon. He said two things(paraphrasing):
"The only thing I can tell you now is that it will be a new franchise unrelated to Starcraft, Warcraft or Diablo."
"Next year you'll see a lot more info about our next MMO."
Their next mmo is an fps based mmo. Pandaren doesn't exactly say fps to me.
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_Kewk_ posted:
Rill_of_WE posted:
The reason I put their next MMO on the table is the interesting tidbit that Mike Morhaime said at last year's BlizzCon. He said two things(paraphrasing):
"The only thing I can tell you now is that it will be a new franchise unrelated to Starcraft, Warcraft or Diablo."
"Next year you'll see a lot more info about our next MMO."
Their next mmo is an fps based mmo. Pandaren doesn't exactly say fps to me.
You're talking about the company who created an expansion around space traveling goats. Why are Pandaren 'with lasers' so out of the question...
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Arcilite_I posted:
_Kewk_ posted:
Rill_of_WE posted:
The reason I put their next MMO on the table is the interesting tidbit that Mike Morhaime said at last year's BlizzCon. He said two things(paraphrasing):
"The only thing I can tell you now is that it will be a new franchise unrelated to Starcraft, Warcraft or Diablo."
"Next year you'll see a lot more info about our next MMO."
Their next mmo is an fps based mmo. Pandaren doesn't exactly say fps to me.
You're talking about the company who created an expansion around space traveling goats. Why are Pandaren 'with lasers' so out of the question...
They got LAZERS?!? OMFG I gotta preorder NOW!
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I bet they don't introduce them as a playable race, but may introduce a monk class since the Pandaren came out of hiding, etc.
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I bet they don't introduce them as a playable race, but may introduce a monk class since the Pandaren came out of hiding, etc.
Agreed. Let's look at the expansions.
TBC - 2 new races
LK - Hero Class - Deathknight
Cata - 2 new races
Pand - Hero Class - Monk
Now the question is... how is the monk going to function?
People have been clamoring for a heroic healing class, and I'll bet this is it. A melee fighter with a healing spec as one of the trees, kind of like Runemasters but using healing power instead of arcane. Then there'd obviously be a dps spec, unarmed specialist to finally make full use of all those Fist weapons in the game that nobody ever uses. I'm also thinking there might be some kind of tanking spec as well, just like paladins having all 3. Drunken Master maybe? Lots and lots of wine to dull the pain?
Who knows. But that's what I'm betting on.
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I would say that this stems from the fact that basically it is somewhat safe to say that Cataclysm has been a disappointment for a good bit of WoW players. Probably due to this disappointment, both by fans as well as probably Blizzard themselves due to fan reaction and decrease in subs. Just look at this boards activity now compared to when Wrath was at its height. So I'm sure that plans have most likely changed as far as timeline.
This could entail possibly shortening or cutting out possible planned Patches for Cata, to wrap up that expansion sooner than what we saw with Wrath. While pushing up the release of the next expansion, whether or not this is the expansion. Blizzard is well aware also of both TOR and GW2 releasing this year and sometime next year respectively for the two games. Unlike most previous games, these two games have a higher chance than others at succeeding in taking and keeping subs away from WoW Blizzard due to the nature of the games themselves, one being Star Wars and the other finally bringing a truly fresh change to the MMO itself.
To drag out Cata longer than it needs to be when by all appearances and through community reaction of the expansion, it's least popular of the expansions released by them, would be folly, especially with threats of newer games already mentioned. So basically in order to try to keep people excited about WoW and to try to keep players, they need to begin showing the next expansion sooner than later.
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I still think it's going to be at least a year until the next expansion. Again, this is going by past evidence of Blizzard's releases, in this case dates. They always tend to release expansions in Q4, or early Q1 of the next year.
Make no mistake, they are going to milk Cata for all it's worth, as little as that may be compared to BC and LK. The development time needed to create the expansion is going to need to make a certain amount of money before they write it off, and I don't think that point has been reached yet. If and/or when Cata fails terribly, and subs drop below a significant amount (4 or 5 million subs is most likely within acceptable losses) they might, and probably will, push to release the next expansion quickly.
Regardless, this isn't likely to be the last expansion. They still make too much money. Too many drones willing to submit pocket change for a poorly conceived expansion to a game beyond it's prime.
IMO it's not an expansion that will revive this game. It's a combination of improved storyline combined with a total graphics engine overhaul. WoW has been outdated for a couple of years now graphically. The real problem Blizzard faces is getting their art team (who recycles textures every chance they get) to produce something new and exciting. After all, eye candy tends to draw more people than story. Witness the Transformer movies...
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Yeah but "Mists of Pandaria" sounds very fantasy-based. I doubt they'd make another fantasy MMO to compete with their cashcow.
It's gotta be the next expansion, especially since the rumor mill a while back was saying their new MMO would be a shooter, not an RPG.
Aye.
But then again, I wouldn't be surprised if Blizzard's marketing experts would be doing whatsoever to transfer the fanbase to a new marketing model (provided this is not an expansion but a next-gen mmo).
Considering the "Panda/Pandaren" thing, I know how cool they were for the WC3 fanbase but I wouldn't take that as a reason to come back to wow. New playable races are always cool but if Bliizard's dev staff stays on this weird course like with Catacylsm -- I'd give a damn about pandaren if I were you ^^.
To be honest, the "Pandaren" in Dofus/Wakfu aren't that bad either ^^.
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*rubs chin, conspiracy-shizophrenia-mode go*
Let's not forget this could all be a TARP! They are using this to cover something else!
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http://www.wowwiki.com/Pandaria
Should clear everything up. The next expansion of WoW is "Mists of Pandaria".
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So...we will now be playing Kung Fu Panda in WoW?
Ill admit, the movies were great and my kids loved em, but why would an adult want to play a Panda?
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I still think it's going to be at least a year until the next expansion. Again, this is going by past evidence of Blizzard's releases, in this case dates. They always tend to release expansions in Q4, or early Q1 of the next year.
They are skipping a year on WoW as to not directly compete with D3. The pandarian expansion will ship Q2 2012. The leaked product slate already confirms this.
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So...we will now be playing Kung Fu Panda in WoW?
Ill admit, the movies were great and my kids loved em, but why would an adult want to play a Panda?
I really don't think they will be a playable race at all, more like the predominant NPCs in the next storyline.
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I couldn't care less about a new race... put in some actual work and give me A NEW FREAKIN' CLASS!
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It is interesting that they may choose to go this route with Pandaren. I know China is very touchy about the Panda being used in any way, shape or form. Will this be a LK type deal where Pandaren will be something entirely different only in China? Like they had to remove all skeletons from WoW for China servers? To me that seems like a huge hassle but /shrug. It is their game.
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_Kewk_ posted:
Taloquin posted:
I still think it's going to be at least a year until the next expansion. Again, this is going by past evidence of Blizzard's releases, in this case dates. They always tend to release expansions in Q4, or early Q1 of the next year.
They are skipping a year on WoW as to not directly compete with D3. The pandarian expansion will ship Q2 2012. The leaked product slate already confirms this.
Or the fact that they release expansion packs every 2 years, and Cataclysm hasn't been out a year...
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Kung-Fu Pandas = Jumpin the damn shark
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Talehon69 posted:
_Kewk_ posted:
Taloquin posted:
I still think it's going to be at least a year until the next expansion. Again, this is going by past evidence of Blizzard's releases, in this case dates. They always tend to release expansions in Q4, or early Q1 of the next year.
They are skipping a year on WoW as to not directly compete with D3. The pandarian expansion will ship Q2 2012. The leaked product slate already confirms this.
Or the fact that they release expansion packs every 2 years, and Cataclysm hasn't been out a year...
That is circumstantial (IE shit happens). They have always been slated at a yearly release. 2 of the 3 were at 2 yes. The next is a year and the following is slated at a year.
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I will come back if they have a new class, not to be confused with a new race. I don't care about the same old classes with new pixels like they did with goblins and worgens.
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Sounds stupid what ever it is.
What mount does a panda ride? Or do they just run faster if you dangle a cookie in front of them?
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Or there is a possibility that it will be two years between expansions. Anyone recall how much time it was between announcing Cata and 4.0.1? Was about a year wasn't it?
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Blizzard can add content or not at any rate it wants, yes?
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Auenwing posted:
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Sounds stupid what ever it is.
What mount does a panda ride? Or do they just run faster if you dangle a cookie in front of them?
Well as long as it's the monkey's almond cookie...
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maybe wow will finally have a 3rd faction
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WoW's expansion design gives them the ability to make the Cataclysm cataclysm go poof.
I'm very interested to see if they will take advantage of this opportunity.
Pretty big expansion imo. Two kind of duds in a row could hurt even Blizz.
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Auenwing posted:
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Sounds stupid what ever it is.
What mount does a panda ride? Or do they just run faster if you dangle a cookie in front of them?
In Soviet Russia, Pandas mount you.
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In Soviet Russia, Pandas mount you.
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If that is the next expansion it makes me even less interested in the game.
How about "World of Warcraft: We Finally Fired Ghostcrawler and are fixing the game. The Expansion."
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Well here goes the thing WoW subs are down roughly a million players, 11.1 million according to its latest financial report. Now, when you had 12+ million subs and all of a sudden loose a million subs that is going to show up financially.
Sure the argument could be brought up that it still has 11.1 million subs, still doesn't take away from the fact that for two quarters now, the trend has been a loss in subs, roughly 500k players per quarter. If the trend continues and the average stays the same, by the end of the year that would be 2 million players lost since Catas release. This isn't factoring in possible increase in lost subscriptions once TOR releases.
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It is interesting that they may choose to go this route with Pandaren. I know China is very touchy about the Panda being used in any way, shape or form. Will this be a LK type deal where Pandaren will be something entirely different only in China? Like they had to remove all skeletons from WoW for China servers? To me that seems like a huge hassle but /shrug. It is their game.
My thoughts exactly. I believe I heard someone say Pandas were going to be the race the first time around, but it was canned due to China. Hard to say who I remember saying it though... lol.
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From what I understand, China will allow the use of Pandas, but you cannot depict a Panda actually being harmed. Which makes me think even moreso that they wouldn't be a playable race in the slightest, though quests might be pretty dull if I don't see any cute pandas in danger. Or something.
Assuming its a WOW expansion. Sprawl's comment about a mobile game got me thinking.
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Unstruck posted:
From what I understand, China will allow the use of Pandas, but you cannot depict a Panda actually being harmed. Which makes me think even moreso that they wouldn't be a playable race in the slightest, though quests might be pretty dull if I don't see any cute pandas in danger. Or something.
Assuming its a WOW expansion. Sprawl's comment about a mobile game got me thinking.
So for China, they'll be bears or some shit, just like how China remodels undead and all skeletons.
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I would think it would be easier to put skin on skeletons than change the lore of a particular race. Surely doable though.
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Man, I will have to play again if they introduce a Pandaren Monk. I'm really trying to quit playing MMO's too.
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Sprawl-zero1eye- posted:
I would think it would be easier to put skin on skeletons than change the lore of a particular race. Surely doable though.
They'd probably just color in the white fur with black and call it Mists of Bearia, starring the Bearren. Then it'll attract members of the Chinese gay Bear community, which I'm fairly certain doesn't exist.
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Unstruck posted:
From what I understand, China will allow the use of Pandas, but you cannot depict a Panda actually being harmed. Which makes me think even moreso that they wouldn't be a playable race in the slightest, though quests might be pretty dull if I don't see any cute pandas in danger. Or something.
Assuming its a WOW expansion. Sprawl's comment about a mobile game got me thinking.
There is no issue with playing or harming virtual pandas in China, its done even now in other games.
What Blizzard screwed up was putting them in Japanese Samurai armor, needless to say the Chinese don't like the Japanese all that much
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Blizzard's 2nd failure incoming.
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Zero_Washu posted:
Unstruck posted:
From what I understand, China will allow the use of Pandas, but you cannot depict a Panda actually being harmed. Which makes me think even moreso that they wouldn't be a playable race in the slightest, though quests might be pretty dull if I don't see any cute pandas in danger. Or something.
Assuming its a WOW expansion. Sprawl's comment about a mobile game got me thinking.
There is no issue with playing or harming virtual pandas in China, its done even now in other games.
What Blizzard screwed up was putting them in Japanese Samurai armor, needless to say the Chinese don't like the Japanese all that much
Oooh, thanks, good to know. Also found this on wowhead by a poster:
"While depictions of violence against actual Pandas is illegal in China, violence against CGI humanoid Pandas is perfectly fine. In fact the movie Kung Fu Panda (which features a talking Panda getting the crap beaten out of him for most of the movie) was not only released in China without problems, but ended up being the highest grossing animated film of all time over there.
As long as Blizzard approaches Chinese culture with respect, there's no reason why Pandaren would run into legal trouble over there."
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Chinese culture does not deserve respect.
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Chinese culture does not deserve respect.
Sure it does Spooky. Most of what you hear about nowadays isn't really their culture, it's the communist bullcrap that took over their culture.
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Quazimortal posted:
Spookysheep posted:
Chinese culture does not deserve respect.
Sure it does Spooky. Most of what you hear about nowadays isn't really their culture, it's the communist bullcrap that took over their culture.
This. Unless you find pre-Mao stuff that isn't tainted by propaganda.
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It's amusing that some, and not only the usual trolls but also usually intelligent posters, consider Cataclysm as a failure.
Most if not all businesses in the world, and not only MMORPGs, would be ready to sign a pact with Satan himself for such a failure.
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Really Korrigan?
So, if I cut your income by 8.3% over 6 months, you wouldn't say anything was wrong, you would just say "Well, many 3rd world inhabitants would make a deal with Satan for this check, so it's all good"..
Coughcoughbullshit.
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i have always said that WoW would keep me forever if they put the Monk class in...loved that class since EQ1. not sure though i would ever come back regardless of class.
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The_Korrigan posted:
It's amusing that some, and not only the usual trolls but also usually intelligent posters, consider Cataclysm as a failure.
Most if not all businesses in the world, and not only MMORPGs, would be ready to sign a pact with Satan himself for such a failure.
You play a dk for PvE and a frost mage for PvP....if anybody would know anything about failure, it would be you.
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Quazimortal posted:
Spookysheep posted:
Chinese culture does not deserve respect.
Sure it does Spooky. Most of what you hear about nowadays isn't really their culture, it's the communist bullcrap that took over their culture.
Yeah China used to be great just like US used to be before Obama.
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China was actually great and technologically way beyond us when we were still throwing stones at each other living in caves.
Only western egocentric retards can think they are the best thing since the creation of the universe.
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Yeah China used to be great just like US used to be before Obama.
This may not be the appropriate forum or thread for this debate, but you opened the door.
I know the educated black man scares you, but don't worry---he folds every time. So essentially you're getting mostly Republican policy anyway. Too bad Hillary didn't get elected. P.S. Bush didn't exactly do a bang up job---*cough*9/11 *cough*WMDs *cough*unfunded tax cuts *cough*unfunded medicare part D *cough*greatest economic collapse and recession since the Depression. But you keep on spouting "Let's take our country back" and "Obama's Hip-Hop BBQ Didn't Create Jobs" like Fox and Rush tell you.
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Wrong thread
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LOL, its hilarious when someone equates chinese culture to "what it was" well over a thousand years ago, and thinks it still applies today.
Someone pass out the window licker helmets.
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LOL, its hilarious when someone equates chinese culture to "what it was" well over a thousand years ago, and thinks it still applies today.
Someone pass out the window licker helmets.
Thousands of years ago? The communist party hasn't even been in power for one hundred years...
History Spooky, learn it sometime.
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Quazimortal posted:
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LOL, its hilarious when someone equates chinese culture to "what it was" well over a thousand years ago, and thinks it still applies today.
Someone pass out the window licker helmets.
Thousands of years ago? The communist party hasn't even been in power for one hundred years...
History Spooky, learn it sometime.
Nowhere in my post do I refer to the communist party, hence my reply had nothing to do with it, and was not in response.
Reading comprehension, learn it sometime
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Errtuu posted:
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Yeah China used to be great just like US used to be before Obama.
This may not be the appropriate forum or thread for this debate, but you opened the door.
I know the educated black man scares you, but don't worry---he folds every time. So essentially you're getting mostly Republican policy anyway. Too bad Hillary didn't get elected. P.S. Bush didn't exactly do a bang up job---*cough*9/11 *cough*WMDs *cough*unfunded tax cuts *cough*unfunded medicare part D *cough*greatest economic collapse and recession since the Depression. But you keep on spouting "Let's take our country back" and "Obama's Hip-Hop BBQ Didn't Create Jobs" like Fox and Rush tell you.
Don't confuse being educated with being intelligent and having some common sense.
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Spookysheep posted:
Quazimortal posted:
Spookysheep posted:
LOL, its hilarious when someone equates chinese culture to "what it was" well over a thousand years ago, and thinks it still applies today.
Someone pass out the window licker helmets.
Thousands of years ago? The communist party hasn't even been in power for one hundred years...
History Spooky, learn it sometime.
Nowhere in my post do I refer to the communist party, hence my reply had nothing to do with it, and was not in response.
Reading comprehension, learn it sometime
Then what was the thousands of years comment for? Chinese culture was alive and thriving up until one hundred years ago.
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