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Over the last several months, and you cannot argue this point, they have introduced new coding to the game and it has had a major impact on the game. First we get CoC violation errors because they reduce the threshold too low then spend weeks if not months trying to get the balance right with the code already in place. That is like putting your car on the road with faulty brakes and saying we will fix it down the line. Then we get promises of all these really cool changes in the month of May only to find out that some of the stuff does not work or work right or only semi works. That is just like putting a car out and saying it might start it might not start it will start sometimes but not all the times. In the new code for May we get new arrows that are great sure but, have a major flaw in them that we get a hot fix for the next day on. Then the next month we get a fix that should make the arrows work as designed only to find out that by fixing the problem they break them being used in other ways and we won’t get a fix on them for a month because Severlin can’t get the server time to do it. Turbine controls the game and the server; they can do whatever they want to it whenever they want. Oh but wait, we find other things along they month that are messed up and need hot fixed and Turbine has time to do that while at the same time introducing new code in the hot fix and saying it was an accident we didn’t mean to put it in because it was tied into some other code. Rubbish! We get patch notes that are full of spelling mistakes as well. The reason why we get spelling mistakes? Because some was too busy? Hogwash! This is your job. If you can’t manage your time effectively they have classes and seminars for just such a thing. To spell check something it takes about 30 seconds of your day. If you cannot manage your time well enough to find 30 seconds in your day then, something is seriously wrong.
This is standard with Turbine for a long time and is only becoming progressively worse. I pay for this game every month. It is not free. With a free game I would expect this low level of quality but, with a game I have to pay to play, no I would not expect this low level of quality. Are you going to try and blame the cross over from Turbine not being owned by anyone to being owned by WB? I hope not. Because little has changed in their day to day life at the office as applied to the game. You want to say it is because they are so over worked? Lies! With effective time management no one at their level can say they are overworked. They are not paid by the hour, they are salary employees. I have yet to ever have a salaried position at any company ever who said it was not expected to work more than 40 hours per week. In order to do your job properly if you have to get up at in the middle of the night to check something then guess what? Suck it up or find a different job because this one is not for you. When I am working I have expectations laid out as to what I am supposed to do, when I am supposed to do things, and the level of quality that goes into my work. When I fail to follow these things or do not do them at the level I am expected there are consequences involved for me. If I consistently failed for many months in a row I would be looking for a new job because I wouldn’t have the old one.
As customers/players we have to speak up and hold people accountable or the level of product we get will be ever decreasing and eventually just be crap. So maybe people want to pay for a crap product, I for one do not want to pay for a crap product. I will continue to voice my opinion on here as it is my only means of holding anyone accountable for their actions.
If they staff is so over worked and under payed then that is their own fault for letting it get to that point. Stand up for your self’s demand better pay or increased staff. If it is not in the budget for right now that is fine but, work it into the budget for next year. Just like when Severlin said that they cannot put in a trading system in Asheron’s Call because they don’t have the SQL room or a server for it. Guess what? Time to work it into the budget then for next fiscal year because it is time to put on in but, for the love of Asheron please let some people who know how to do quality assurance testing do the testing. At work before any of the regular staff gets a breath of anything new we have multiple layers of quality testing that goes on and I am one of the first people that they go to because they know I will check every nook and cranny of the thing to find whatever is flawed or going to break or not going to work right. My reports on the darn things go on for pages and the conference calls for hours just so when it hit the floor in production it is not crashing to the ground for thousands of people. I do not know who was picked for the test server and what criteria was used in picking them or what they really do on this test server but, whoever they are they are doing a terrible job and have been for months.
Please Turbine find some better testers, fix your lack of quality control, and hold your employees to some standards.
I posted this up over at AC site in a thread but, I feel it is warrented enough to voice my opinion here as well. Maybe others feel the same way and don't say anything. Maybe others just don't take the time to post. Idk and I do wish people would post up their opinions more.
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You made this post in response to people running Castaway getting booted.
Turbine does not support third party plugins. The majority of their changes either 100% or mostly only affected people using plugins. Turbine is not responsible for making sure AC works with plugins they don't support. Plugin makers are responsible for making sure their plugins work with AC and are changed to work with AC changes.
Yes, with the thresholds decreased if someone tried to sell a ridiculous amount of salvage at one time manually they could get booted and Turbine upped the threshold to fix this.
Budgets are not something a company just increases. Budgets come from the income the company is getting from the game. What you fail to get, on a regular basis, is that the solution from a company standpoint is not to hire more people and run the game at a loss. The solution is for the current team to do less so there are fewer bugs, but less content/fixes/features/art etc for players.
The reason people attack you on the main forums is that you 1) truly don't get it and think that companies will just put a ton of money that isn't coming in back at a game 2) are always rude 3) complain about everything and 4) come off in general like a little kid.
You are paying $12.95 a month for access to a game world and to keep the game running. The content is free on top of that. So those new arrows you got that needed some tweaking? Those are extra and were something you never had before but you pouted and stomped around that they took a little bit to get fully working.
The main thing you need to grasp is that the "solution" to your problem is for them to do less each month to make sure it is fully polished. There is no other option/solution for the company to take since they work in the real world where money has to come from somewhere and budgets are based off of profits.
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AC4LifeXxX posted:
You made this post in response to people running Castaway getting booted.
Turbine does not support third party plugins. The majority of their changes either 100% or mostly only affected people using plugins. Turbine is not responsible for making sure AC works with plugins they don't support. Plugin makers are responsible for making sure their plugins work with AC and are changed to work with AC changes.
Yes, with the thresholds decreased if someone tried to sell a ridiculous amount of salvage at one time manually they could get booted and Turbine upped the threshold to fix this.
Budgets are not something a company just increases. Budgets come from the income the company is getting from the game. What you fail to get, on a regular basis, is that the solution from a company standpoint is not to hire more people and run the game at a loss. The solution is for the current team to do less so there are fewer bugs, but less content/fixes/features/art etc for players.
The reason people attack you on the main forums is that you 1) truly don't get it and think that companies will just put a ton of money that isn't coming in back at a game 2) are always rude 3) complain about everything and 4) come off in general like a little kid.
You are paying $12.95 a month for access to a game world and to keep the game running. The content is free on top of that. So those new arrows you got that needed some tweaking? Those are extra and were something you never had before but you pouted and stomped around that they took a little bit to get fully working.
The main thing you need to grasp is that the "solution" to your problem is for them to do less each month to make sure it is fully polished. There is no other option/solution for the company to take since they work in the real world where money has to come from somewhere and budgets are based off of profits.
i see no post on Turbine's site with this on it? so i guess it never happened.
and with as little as they have been putting ingame lately i dont see how we could get less. 1 quest this month?! really could we get less then 1 quest. who the hell really cares about hair styles and hair on toon anyway? these are not really major updates that really affect game play. I cant remember the last time i said thank Turbine for my new hair style cause it saved me on this quest.
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You could get once every 3 months updates or once a year updates or new more updates at all.
Your 12.95 goes to servers, characters storage and monthly access. ANY additional content/features/art is not included so yes, you could get a lot less.
You're saying people didn't point out how dumb your post was and everyone else quote the post that called you out and +1 it didn't happen because they deleted all the off topic posts? Sure, whatever you need to tell yourself....
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AC4LifeXxX posted:
You could get once every 3 months updates or once a year updates or new more updates at all.
Your 12.95 goes to servers, characters storage and monthly access. ANY additional content/features/art is not included so yes, you could get a lot less.
You're saying people didn't point out how dumb your post was and everyone else quote the post that called you out and +1 it didn't happen because they deleted all the off topic posts? Sure, whatever you need to tell yourself....
again i could carless if people disagree. I have a right to voice my opinion. Right or Wrong in your eyes or others I have a right to my opinion. I would be happy to get quality over quanity anyday and twice on sunday!
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[quote=AC4LifeXxX]You could get once every 3 months updates or once a year updates or new more updates at all.
Your 12.95 goes to servers, characters storage and monthly access. ANY additional content/features/art is not included so yes, you could get a lot less.
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I will take issue with one point from above: No game company is running an MMO at a loss, unless it's to test a microtransaction model. AC is making money for Turbine, I beileve. Not a lot, but all the servers are paid for, the coding is paid for, and it's likely that your subscriptions support a team of four or so, plus a small slice of the Turbine infrastructure. I would speculate that the game servers are virtualized by this point, but that's pure speculation.
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AC might be decreased in quality but alot of returning players, being 1 myself, is only back for nostalgia, and the PvP that I loved to know on Darktide.
New players have it easy in AC1 now then what players went through on release.
AC1 will live to the bitter end, whether Turbine goes under or when they decide to pull the plug. This MMO will be in the minds and hearts of alot of people. Good memories made.
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If you think you can code better then you can cry, then go make a better game. If you think coding and fixing code on a game that was started in the 80's then by all means, go apply... Turbine is looking for a few code freaks.
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I don't think there is a decrease in quality at all. I have tried to run the new MMO's out there and well my system will not run them because its too old lol. I think there is plenty of content in AC and the players are friendly and helpful in general and 12.95 a month isnt too bad.
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Not that discerning
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Why was this pos post re-posted?
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