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I've tried to be as polite and civil as I could about this topic but it's really becoming a nuisance. First, let me say that I don't even fellow in grind dungeons, but I am an officer in my guild so I hear a lot of the complaints from good people who are trying to have fun and play the game the way it's meant to be played. Furthermore, I have no grief with people who ucm if its done in a way that doesn't interfere with the enjoyment of others. If a fellowship is open and everyone in it can benefit, there's no harm. If you're in a low traffic area and just hunting for salvage and whatnot, there's no harm. But when you run a route in a high traffic area that constantly jumps other live players or you close a fellowship in a dungeon and ucm until the entire dungeon is locked down, it interferes with other people and it kills the fun of the game.
That being said, I've tried through /cg and @t to talk to certain people who lead these fellowship and they've either insulted me or called me a tattle tale and a baby and whatnot. That's beside the point, and it really doesn't bother me either way. I don't use decal, don't ucm, never have. I do care about the people who are in my guild and my followers in particular and I think it's very ignorant to act like you own an area. I also think it's even more ignorant to threaten to shut people out of certain quest fellowship because they are "known reporters" but you live with the consequences of your actions. That is true of both sides however. I've written an email to turbine addressing the last few days worth of incidents on Thistledown including the names of every ucmer that I've tried numerous times to talk to and I have either been ignored or squelched. I've also gone personally to these places that my followers are telling me about and checked each player that is in question. If you're ucming, I have sent you an @T and given you a minute to respond. if you didn't, I reported you.
I'll continue to do this until something happens. You can hate me and call me whatever names you want. The good people who actually play this game and work for xp instead of ucming aren't having fun because of a small percentage of people who think they can do whatever they want. The COC exists for a reason, don't call me names because I think it's proper to uphold it when you are messing up another person's experience. We all pay for this game. You can do with this what you will, but rather than putting your accounts at risk of being banned, why don't you clean up your behavior a bit and grow up just a little more.
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ps i rather doubt turbine cares anymore.
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Do you report your own vassal who UCMs the same spot you are reporting others for UCMing at? Pretty sure you are not.
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YOU NEED TO GO TO TURBINES FORUMS AND PM FRELORN AND THE OTHER GUY, I FORGET HIS NAME.. ALSO THEY ARENT GOING TO DO CRAP BECAUSE THEY DONT CARE
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Well, the game would be dead without UCMers, completely dead. If this was 2001, it makes sense to ban UCM because it was a small portion of the large population. Today is a large portion of the very very small population, and dynamics of the game have continued to progress towards only be tolerable with macros. Try salvaging up 90 bags of steel manually to tink your cool new armor suit...
I just find the double standard interesting. It's OK to UCM if you are helping me(vassal), but not OK to UCM if you are not helping me.
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KurpalOriginal posted:
Do you report your own vassal who UCMs the same spot you are reporting others for UCMing at? Pretty sure you are not.
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KurpalOriginal posted:
Well, the game would be dead without UCMers, completely dead. If this was 2001, it makes sense to ban UCM because it was a small portion of the large population. Today is a large portion of the very very small population, and dynamics of the game have continued to progress towards only be tolerable with macros. Try salvaging up 90 bags of steel manually to tink your cool new armor suit...
I just find the double standard interesting. It's OK to UCM if you are helping me(vassal), but not OK to UCM if you are not helping me.
No it would not, no it is not, I have. *shrug*
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kerrek_nalanthi posted:
That being said, I've tried through /cg and @t to talk to certain people who lead these fellowship and they've either insulted me or called me a tattle tale and a baby and whatnot. That's beside the point, and it really doesn't bother me either way.
-Thray
It "bothered" you enough to post about it, so your post only contradicts itself.
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Old topic, new poster. Have at it. I disagree with Kurpal. 
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Tao_Roo_Chingon_II posted:
Old topic, new poster. Have at it. I disagree with Kurpal.
The few that do not UCM would dissagree with me. I just doubt that if Decal was gone many if any would be left playing. From our allegiance, I think the only person left would be Blackmancer.
I find the idea of trying to salvage 90 bags of steel for each suit enough to never touch this game if it wasn't for people macroing that endlessly tedious task. You wouldnt' ever be able to buy a bag of salvage. Farming the salvage just to play week to week would be most of your time playing this game. How is that even fun?
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What Thray maybe either doesn't know or chooses not to acknowledge is there has been fellows fighting over withered for many many months. I have set up open fellows many times 5 months ago people from his clan and others all benefited from several billion xp over a few weeks. Yet if some of those same exact people set up before me, the fellow was always closed and when i spoke to them about it, I got the message that I let too many people in the open fellow so XP was too low for them.
Basically you cant win there. You either have an open lower yield fellow and get griefed or you set up a closed high yeld fellow and get griefed.
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The few times Decal was broken....plenty still played....go figure. Poor argument Kurpal but have it your way. It's a waste of time arguing. 
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DoomheraldTD posted:
YOU NEED TO GO TO TURBINES FORUMS AND PM FRELORN AND THE OTHER GUY, I FORGET HIS NAME.. ALSO THEY ARENT GOING TO DO CRAP BECAUSE THEY DONT CARE
They still do checks from time to time, not sure if its on their own or because someone reported though.
On the other hand a surprising amount of macros are at least partly at keyboard and react to tells with a delay, i guess the people Thray is talking about just ignore him on purpose (the squelching would indicate ACM's at least)
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Anyone have an account for sale lolz
edit all joking aside the only thing that can come out of this is bad - Turbine can nerf the tumies on the hill and then everyone loses.
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ucms killed this game 9 years ago good post tho
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Tao_Roo_Chingon_II posted:
The few times Decal was broken....plenty still played....go figure. Poor argument Kurpal but have it your way. It's a waste of time arguing.
oh no its patch day and decal was down for 3 hours!
Not a good option to use to try and prove a point. Now if decal was ever gone for a month or more TD would quickly become as packed as VT =/
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I have screenshots of your so called allegiance member who is whining about the fellow being closed.. he is sitting in a cove behind a door leeching .. why is it ok for him to come into a fellowship of people who are making good xp and know how to max it out , and sit there and leech it up. suck up all the free xp while he drags it down for the rest of us
Like i said i have the screenshots. and thray u need to play the xbox or a game that is not an online game . you are really bad with other people . your kinda like the mommy of a retarded child yelling at the other mommys cause their kids wont play with him .. i mean dude grow a pair please leave td forever .
If you are seriously reporting people for not letting in your little babies into the fellow maybe you should investigate the problem further before banning someones acct yfa
Basically you want to kick people out of a dungeon so you or your fellows can macro it. thats what your saying .. if i see someones taken a dungeon i move onto a different one i dont freekin whine about how thats the one i want to be in and act like u . this is just amazing that your so narrow minded that your banning other peoples accts so that your friends can macro where they want to.
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You are wrong about Thray he is a good guy and a supreme gamer. The only problem you have with him that he ruffles your feathers. The pwerplayers on TD have been relaxed too long and think they own this server. Good to have some new blood stirring up the pot. Maybe you can learn something and improve your game too.
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"but I am an officer in my guild so I hear a lot of the complaints from good people who are trying to have fun and play the game the way it's meant to be played" Thray I just ran through a few dungeons and your fellow clan mates were in there UCM I hope you reported them for taking up spots in a dungeon, because they interrupted my game enjoyment by being in those spots and making me have to find another place to go!!! Also thray the last part of your quote up there your folks aren't playing the game the ways its suppose to be played if they are UCM'ing.
And to be fair thray 2 of the people you reported were under the age of 11 and do not respond back to tells. you did speak with the parents of those 2 kids though. That is mainly why they have fellow closed because they want it to be just a friend/family/clan thing. And all parties were at keys yesterday when you were complaining about this, but they have you and the person in question squelched, and you need to be careful of reporting folks that are at the keys even if they don't respond, because making false reports will also get you a ban. They tried to get IPA in but he/she logged before they could get that toon in, and they did add archure after you and your clansmate left. They just don't like you and your clansmate in question. Send me a tell in game if you wanna discuss this any further, as I will not respond any further on this matter.
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Thray what clan that you're so proud to be in and be an officer of, what clan might it be?
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AgzntOrange2 posted:
and a supreme gamer.
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Chainz_TD posted:
AgzntOrange2 posted:
and a supreme gamer.
haha
yea I am sure that was a joke. Supreme flamer maybe
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Thray what clan that you're so proud to be in and be an officer of, what clan might it be?
Brainiac, aka "The Questors", best quest clan on TD bar none.
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Berek I can only play every other day so I am not sure if you have led the new Shadow quest installment(Void BZ summoning)
I haven't seen it led by anyone else but me in the limited hours I have been able to play so I am asking seriously.
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Berek I can only play every other day so I am not sure if you have led the new Shadow quest installment(Void BZ summoning)
I haven't seen it led by anyone else but me in the limited hours I have been able to play so I am asking seriously.
ah, that's what that room is for. No, I have not, I guess I need to set up a run date. I have not done either of the 2 newer quests. How about this Saturday evening?
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Going to take 26 days to get the first two parts done berek 
I'm waiting my timer out for doing part two.
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Going to take 26 days to get the first two parts done berek
I'm waiting my timer out for doing part two.
Well, since I did shadow communication more than 13 days ago I can begin the strange crystal quest, which is what I was referring to. I imagine many folks by saturday would have passed that 13 day period as well, but thanks for trying to put a wrench in it. I do not know if Black is referring to part 1 or part 2.
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He is talking about stage 3 =]
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If UCM does not cause you any harm leave the people alone. It seems when this topic comes up most of the people complaining about it do not have the brains to figure out how to do it. There are a few players who do not use it by choice and they manage to succeed (Blackmancer? Ag nar). I always found it much funner dropping chickens on people I hated and watching them get send to the life stone. It causes a moment of inconvenience without being such a dick you cause them to get banned. Fellowships should be allowed to have whoever they want. Do you think the Fellowship of the the Ring would allow Sauron into the group? Macroing is good for the game it reduces the cost on many items that are tedious to accumulate. Sure some areas can get heated but that should be ironed out with skullduggery and cunning not calling in the envoy.
One of these days I will play again and I know if Berek is playing then I will be able to go on many quests without clan rivalries. Many people in AC hate each other but in the end we all share a love for a grand old game.
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Mrs_Adventure posted:
He is talking about stage 3 =]
Then you and black can twin it up I would say.
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After I get past the second stage sir =] lol you're ahead of me by a few days. My timer for the second part should be up on monday or tuesday.
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Ixussss posted:
Many people in AC hate each other but in the end we all share a love for a grand old game.
Well said.
And after reading all response and following the drama of both sides:
I find the initial intention and creatation of this thread not specifically against ucming or ucming that area in discussion but more or less some anger and frustration of people in a game. And by calling one a ucmer it is an attempt to get the community on one side. When I believe the person posting really has no issue with ucming in the discussed location as long as it is not the person or persons inwhich are disliked.
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I just find the double standard interesting. It's OK to UCM if you are helping me(vassal), but not OK to UCM if you are not helping me.
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[General] Thray says, "i can tell you this. from now on every time i get an @t from anyone, in my guild or not, complaining about ucmers in a dungeon.. i'm coming there, checking, then reporting you if you are"
[General] Thray says, "believe it"
[General] Thray says, "and hate me all you want for it"
[General] Thray says, "all i need is my guild and they are behind me 100%"
AND THEN...................
[General] Thray says, "ucms are good for the game"
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I was here....that is all
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Blackmancer posted:
Chainz_TD posted:
AgzntOrange2 posted:
and a supreme gamer.
haha
yea I am sure that was a joke. Supreme flamer maybe
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People have been fighting over locations since the start of this game. It goes all the way back to the Outside olthoi spots Arwic pass pillars up north, Crater both Ob and Dereth the lugies outside of Quilabar you name it people have fought over it. That is what made the game fun, us (Who have the spot) vs them (Who do not have the spot). People forget when you had to use scripts developed by Redman and what the Jelly of decal is to the peanut butter of AC.
I actually thought my use of the word "hate" was too harsh of a word more like there are tons of people who are great at annoying each other in a very cruel manner. I do not think I hate anyone in life except for despots and people who oppress human freedoms.
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Redfist...Redfist...
r e d f i s t
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Yes that guy the sorry I confuse the two only met one of them (Funny story). The guy took it pretty serious he even had an ACscript t-shirt. The point is that AC has been around so long so why piss on someone elses parade with so much content and so little population. I would play AC if I had a decent connection and a desktop computer but if I am going to do that I might as well get a PS3.
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I would play AC if I had a decent connection and a desktop computer but if I am going to do that I might as well get a PS3.
You don't need a decent connection and a decent computer. I play on a Dell Inspiron 15n running Arch Linux, and poach wifi from my neighbor who I swear has a wifi AP connected to a dialup connection. Works fine at Panera & McDonalds too, and both are close. Probably works just fine with cell phone providers other than T-Mobile also.
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So besides the fact that everyone is up in arms about the profanity that macro etc..
Is there any real good reason to come back and play? (meant to say farkers)
I still believe (still believe) that this game is the BEST, but for the most part IMHO.. when I wigged out and went cuckoo for cocoapuffs..
It had become a Chat room that I paid almost $400 a year for. (2 accounts)
Anyhoo, I can say I miss the **** out of it and for some whacky reason want to come back.
So would anyone be willing to sponser a total whackjob starting in August? (July is vacation month)
Or is the game over and done or too hard to play if you don't macro. ?
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quick the servers just came back up so go claim them withereds as your own!
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I am still using a Acer netbook (It works for what I need it for because its compact) =(. I was not intending on staying in Asia for so long so I did not prepare by bringing a decent laptop. The connection is one of those things that really pisses me off its like the monkey they use to run the routers in Thailand turns it on and off. One of these days when I return to the states I will start playing again.
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If you're already in Asia... buy a laptop and save on the shipping fee.
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If you're already in Asia... buy a laptop and save on the shipping fee.
He isn't in that area of Asia.....
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He's not that far though either.
Don't get me wrong, I don't miss him in the slightest... just saying, it's not that hard to get your hands on a cheap laptop anywhere in the world.
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I know you would think being so close to China computer and electronic stuff would be cheap but its not(Unless you want a Iphone knock off). A Galaxy S is still going for around 13k Baht (433$). It is nice having a minimalistic computer setup. If I have to travel I do not have a ton of crap to haul around. Why its the choice between a new computer or a PS3. At least with the PS3 it can be modded and games are like 3$ here.
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I know you would think being so close to China computer and electronic stuff would be cheap but its not(Unless you want a Iphone knock off). A Galaxy S is still going for around 13k Baht (433$). It is nice having a minimalistic computer setup. If I have to travel I do not have a ton of crap to haul around. Why its the choice between a new computer or a PS3. At least with the PS3 it can be modded and games are like 3$ here.
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We had game when there was NO DECAL for those months...lots of people played moslty melees and the bots were manually ran...I was a bot most times but I do remember point and time when there was NO DECAL. And I am not talking about the beginning of AC I am talking about when ToD came out there was NO DECAL.
As for UCMers theres really not that many or as bad as it use to be. Problem I been having is when I let the kids play and they don't respond fast enough because they are busy killing stuf and cannot type and kill at same time next thing I know they got some blue person talking to them which I end up having to move the kids to another place so they don't get reported again. You'd be surprised that how big Dereth is how hard it is to find an OUT of the way place where kids can play and not have to look at chat. In the last 3 weeks they been spotted (questioned 10 times) because I had them in higher level spots intead of the low level stuff they are bored with. They are 10 and 12 but they can play just cannot type and play at same time.
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I recall the time before Decal, ACScripts RULED the game!
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This thread was getting off track so I just wanted to jump on the bandwagon to point out that Thray sounds like a whiny little girl.
I would seriously consider playing again right now just to grief him in some way.
Can't believe people still complain about UCMing.
Thank you for your time!
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Thor is a gimp and worst PK ever....
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This thread was getting off track so I just wanted to jump on the bandwagon to point out that Thray sounds like a whiny little girl.
I would seriously consider playing again right now just to grief him in some way.
Can't believe people still complain about UCMing.
Thank you for your time!
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This thread was getting off track so I just wanted to jump on the bandwagon to point out that Thray sounds like a whiny little girl.
I would seriously consider playing again right now just to grief him in some way.
Can't believe people still complain about UCMing.
Thank you for your time!
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*shrug* Yes, people still do complain about ucming. It has always been and will always be a thorn to various people to some degree. There are still ucm fights and fairly recently some difficulty in hunting in an area where there was a team of chars ucming by one player.
As far as you are concerned, the last I remember of you is disrupting my quests. Most notably after Blackmancer cheered you on to do your own thing in Harbinger, indirectly causing 2 or 3 people to not get rewards, you and he dropped in uninvited to Prodigal Shadow so that there would not be enough rewards (20) at the end. I was quite clear that someone would lose out if you were to continue with us, to which neither of you responded, so Icedancer volunteered to sacrifice his reward. However, someone died en route to the last room and so could not return and there was exactly enough items.
So, therefore, since griefing seems to be your forte, perhaps it would be best for you not to return. Thank you.
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I wasn't there for any of the quests Berek is talking about - but the format of his complaint for some reason makes me take it quite seriously.
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Contrary to what Berek would have you beleive, Thor or myself did not do any griefing.
Thor wrote the book on questing so yea if he wants to wait at the bottom and grab a beer while the slower group comes down then I have no problem with that. The idea that him being at the bottom waiting has anything to do with someone dying an hour later and not getting reward is a joke.
Thor really wanted to do the Shadow Quest and I have ran it a dozen times before and still have pandemic keys stockpiled so we ran to the bottom of that also and waited patiently to help you guys kill. I never heard until just now that we werent welcome on that quest. Had I known that then we would have simply popped a couple rares and killed spawn instead of waiting an hour for the slower group to navigate the dungeon. Next time we will go ahead and just kill instead of waiting to help the lowbies kill? Is that cool?
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ThorAzoroth2011 posted:
This thread was getting off track so I just wanted to jump on the bandwagon to point out that Thray sounds like a whiny little girl.
I would seriously consider playing again right now just to grief him in some way.
Can't believe people still complain about UCMing.
Thank you for your time!
go packers
*shrug* Yes, people still do complain about ucming. It has always been and will always be a thorn to various people to some degree. There are still ucm fights and fairly recently some difficulty in hunting in an area where there was a team of chars ucming by one player.
As far as you are concerned, the last I remember of you is disrupting my quests. Most notably after Blackmancer cheered you on to do your own thing in Harbinger, indirectly causing 2 or 3 people to not get rewards, you and he dropped in uninvited to Prodigal Shadow so that there would not be enough rewards (20) at the end. I was quite clear that someone would lose out if you were to continue with us, to which neither of you responded, so Icedancer volunteered to sacrifice his reward. However, someone died en route to the last room and so could not return and there was exactly enough items.
So, therefore, since griefing seems to be your forte, perhaps it would be best for you not to return. Thank you.
If there was exactly enough items, what's the big deal?
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.-Zen-Ko-. posted:
Gibbon_raver posted:
ThorAzoroth2011 posted:
This thread was getting off track so I just wanted to jump on the bandwagon to point out that Thray sounds like a whiny little girl.
I would seriously consider playing again right now just to grief him in some way.
Can't believe people still complain about UCMing.
Thank you for your time!
go packers
*shrug* Yes, people still do complain about ucming. It has always been and will always be a thorn to various people to some degree. There are still ucm fights and fairly recently some difficulty in hunting in an area where there was a team of chars ucming by one player.
As far as you are concerned, the last I remember of you is disrupting my quests. Most notably after Blackmancer cheered you on to do your own thing in Harbinger, indirectly causing 2 or 3 people to not get rewards, you and he dropped in uninvited to Prodigal Shadow so that there would not be enough rewards (20) at the end. I was quite clear that someone would lose out if you were to continue with us, to which neither of you responded, so Icedancer volunteered to sacrifice his reward. However, someone died en route to the last room and so could not return and there was exactly enough items.
So, therefore, since griefing seems to be your forte, perhaps it would be best for you not to return. Thank you.
If there was exactly enough items, what's the big deal?
Even if there was enough items, why would you make it a public quest? You can run 300 people at once in that quest so long as you have a core group ready to stay to kill the boss shadow on the respawn every couple of minutes. If you don't want it to be a public quest for the public, don't advertise it before going.
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Contrary to what Berek would have you beleive, Thor or myself did not do any griefing.
Thor wrote the book on questing so yea if he wants to wait at the bottom and grab a beer while the slower group comes down then I have no problem with that. The idea that him being at the bottom waiting has anything to do with someone dying an hour later and not getting reward is a joke.
Thor really wanted to do the Shadow Quest and I have ran it a dozen times before and still have pandemic keys stockpiled so we ran to the bottom of that also and waited patiently to help you guys kill. I never heard until just now that we werent welcome on that quest. Had I known that then we would have simply popped a couple rares and killed spawn instead of waiting an hour for the slower group to navigate the dungeon. Next time we will go ahead and just kill instead of waiting to help the lowbies kill? Is that cool?
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Contrary to what Berek would have you beleive, Thor or myself did not do any griefing.
Thor wrote the book on questing so yea if he wants to wait at the bottom and grab a beer while the slower group comes down then I have no problem with that. The idea that him being at the bottom waiting has anything to do with someone dying an hour later and not getting reward is a joke.
Thor really wanted to do the Shadow Quest and I have ran it a dozen times before and still have pandemic keys stockpiled so we ran to the bottom of that also and waited patiently to help you guys kill. I never heard until just now that we werent welcome on that quest. Had I known that then we would have simply popped a couple rares and killed spawn instead of waiting an hour for the slower group to navigate the dungeon. Next time we will go ahead and just kill instead of waiting to help the lowbies kill? Is that cool?
On Harbinger, I said indirectly. Not only that, but I repeatedly requested to Thor to not go ahead even though he knew the route. Thor was inside killing Harbinger for a good 30 min before everyone got there, which meant no prep on the ledge, because the ledge wasn't there. Not following directions on my quests is a disruption of the quest. Saying otherwise is ignorant. While I was getting the last 2 people into the dungeon at the end we all walked in the moment the blood timed out, which we would have had enough time if Thor stayed with the group.
On the Shadow quest, it was made quite clear to you and your partner, by more than one person, that you were not welcome on that quest. It was discussed for a full 5 minutes, until Icedancer said he would go without his reward and I said "ok, lets see how this plays out". You did not wait at the bottom, I am not sure why you said that. You waited at the orphanage drop and went with the group to the bottom.
Yes, I run public quests, but I run the quests and I make the rules and the rules are very simple; stay together and pay attention to the leader. If someone comes on a quest and disrupts it by not following those simple rules, then they are, in fact, griefing the quest.
How about next time you go on your own run with your clannies and your clannies stay away from my runs. That way there is no conflict of interest, so please do not grief any more of my quests. Thank you.
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Even if there was enough items, why would you make it a public quest? You can run 300 people at once in that quest so long as you have a core group ready to stay to kill the boss shadow on the respawn every couple of minutes. If you don't want it to be a public quest for the public, don't advertise it before going.
OK, you take a group down, kill and wait for respawn and tell me how it goes.
On this quest when my group size hits 20 I tell anyone else that we are full.
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Blackmancer posted:
Contrary to what Berek would have you beleive, Thor or myself did not do any griefing.
Thor wrote the book on questing so yea if he wants to wait at the bottom and grab a beer while the slower group comes down then I have no problem with that. The idea that him being at the bottom waiting has anything to do with someone dying an hour later and not getting reward is a joke.
Thor really wanted to do the Shadow Quest and I have ran it a dozen times before and still have pandemic keys stockpiled so we ran to the bottom of that also and waited patiently to help you guys kill. I never heard until just now that we werent welcome on that quest. Had I known that then we would have simply popped a couple rares and killed spawn instead of waiting an hour for the slower group to navigate the dungeon. Next time we will go ahead and just kill instead of waiting to help the lowbies kill? Is that cool?
On Harbinger, I said indirectly. Not only that, but I repeatedly requested to Thor to not go ahead even though he knew the route. Thor was inside killing Harbinger for a good 30 min before everyone got there, which meant no prep on the ledge, because the ledge wasn't there. Not following directions on my quests is a disruption of the quest. Saying otherwise is ignorant. While I was getting the last 2 people into the dungeon at the end we all walked in the moment the blood timed out, which we would have had enough time if Thor stayed with the group.
On the Shadow quest, it was made quite clear to you and your partner, by more than one person, that you were not welcome on that quest. It was discussed for a full 5 minutes, until Icedancer said he would go without his reward and I said "ok, lets see how this plays out". You did not wait at the bottom, I am not sure why you said that. You waited at the orphanage drop and went with the group to the bottom.
Yes, I run public quests, but I run the quests and I make the rules and the rules are very simple; stay together and pay attention to the leader. If someone comes on a quest and disrupts it by not following those simple rules, then they are, in fact, griefing the quest.
How about next time you go on your own run with your clannies and your clannies stay away from my runs. That way there is no conflict of interest, so please do not grief any more of my quests. Thank you.
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And I can't for the life of me figure out why I quit....
UCMers - they matter ONLY if they are sitting farming a piece/kill/etc that you need for a quest. The real issue is people feel that the UCMer is getting something better than themselves and take it personally. Did your game suddenly end when I hit 275? Did your game end when I got my 1000th rare? Did your game end because I killed a d golem in the whatcha ma jigger placer you getto from Stonehold? Did your game end because I was bored and beat the snot out of Wasps in Menace? A majority of the complaints are your getting more than me and thats not fair. And then there are the BUT I WANNA MACRO HERE whines, and the WHY WON'T YOU LET ME LEECH whines. Amazing idea, there are other spots in the game that offer around the same risk and rewards, you might have to kill a couple more things but there is more to the game than Arcade, Quest Hub, Fuins, Eaters, EO.
Quest Leaders - I find them ego stroking and demanding of attention. Despite the claims of "helping everyone" it is more an ego stroking exercise. All fall on your knees and hang on my every word. No one else can run those quests, because they get yelled at for not seeing a message that the LEADER was going to descend from the heavens and show us morons how to do it. Once upon a time EVERYONE would learn the new quests and they would run them, now you all sit around waiting for the great leader to decide your worthy and you have bowed and scraped enough to be deemed worthy.
I'd like to take this time to remind all of you that this is infact JUST A GAME, the balance of power in the universe does not hang in the balance. If your going to dislike people, find real reasons not something silly like well he wouldn't let my vassal leech. If your spending more time running around trying to get those damn UCMers banned, your not actually playing anymore, and this could be why your no longer having any fun. Being the fun police is neither fun nor useful.
But then what do I know... I quit because I stopped having enough time for it to be fun...
Wubbie - How is it a guy who played a chef was having way more fun than you? Didn't have the most toys, the best toys, and somehow I had fun... look into having fun...
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Chef_Wubbie posted:
Quest Leaders - I find them ego stroking and demanding of attention. Despite the claims of "helping everyone" it is more an ego stroking exercise. All fall on your knees and hang on my every word. No one else can run those quests, because they get yelled at for not seeing a message that the LEADER was going to descend from the heavens and show us morons how to do it. Once upon a time EVERYONE would learn the new quests and they would run them, now you all sit around waiting for the great leader to decide your worthy and you have bowed and scraped enough to be deemed worthy.
Um, yeah, that is the way it is all right. Surprising how few have been able to arrive at the same conclusion as your keen vision of the way things actually are.
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when my account got booted for CoC I was not UCMing and I did not accuse anyone of reporting me. I was trying to point out there are people who play without 3rd party programs (which allow you to attack and type at the same time)
I put my girls in an out of the way dungeon I mean geez how many people do you know still do the quiddity orb quest yeah the one where you run around looking for the north and south black claw critter. I figure they are out of the way cannot harm anyone and can have fun but oh no about their 3rd day in there going into the 4th hr or so I hear grandma come quick someone blue talking to us grandma I get to keys explain whats going on ok np and they gone
well I decide to move the girls so I took them to underground forest just outside GW you all know the place right nothing special just a place they could run around in and have fun they are there about a week or so and grandma that blue person here again ok so now I am really racking my brains to think a place for them and I remember and old dungeon on the plains with virindi and tuskers wrong they lasted 1 day there.
So as a last resort I got them flagged for the ancient olthoi queen dungeon in zak and let them loose in the tunnels 3 weeks they lasted and got booted for CoC problem it stated no length of time but after 4 hrs I ended up getting it reinstated which I still have not been able to access yet and its been almost a week now. I just think its really weird they not suppose to be all that worried about UCMers I hear but yet my girls got the bad end of the stick.
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Sounds like somebody is stalking you. Do you have "appear offline" checked? If not that would be a good first step. I have the "appear offline" checked on most of my toons now because I don't care to be bothered.
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