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Why in heaven's name did Blizz put Resilience on every piece of blue crafted cloth and leather armor? Hello?! If you're going to stick me with it, at least let me reforge out of some of it.
While on the subject, if Blizz can let me reforge stats, why can't they let me customize my own stats when I craft something? They can set the base stats like Int, Str, Agi, etc., and allocate XXX green points to put into say 2 or 3 secondary stats of my choice? Players would get what they want and crafters might actually make money on custom items.
Wait, giving players what they want? I answered my own question....
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Blizzard does not want you crafting a set of PVE gear at 85, they want you hideously grinding dungeons for it.
The crafted sets are intended strictly to get people PVP'ing as soon as they hit 85, so they can start THAT hideous gear grind without getting roflstomped by hardcores who already have full pvp gear from using Tol Barad exploits to get fully outfitted in a single day 
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Spookysheep posted:
Blizzard does not want you crafting a set of PVE gear at 85, they want you hideously grinding dungeons for it.
The crafted sets are intended strictly to get people PVP'ing as soon as they hit 85, so they can start THAT hideous gear grind without getting roflstomped by hardcores who already have full pvp gear from using Tol Barad exploits to get fully outfitted in a single day
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Spookysheep posted:
Blizzard does not want you crafting a set of PVE gear at 85, they want you hideously grinding dungeons for it.
The crafted sets are intended strictly to get people PVP'ing as soon as they hit 85, so they can start THAT hideous gear grind without getting roflstomped by hardcores who already have full pvp gear from using Tol Barad exploits to get fully outfitted in a single day
not much of a gear grind in PVP... let's be honoest.. you can AFK your way through it.
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sarnsereg posted:
Spookysheep posted:
Blizzard does not want you crafting a set of PVE gear at 85, they want you hideously grinding dungeons for it.
The crafted sets are intended strictly to get people PVP'ing as soon as they hit 85, so they can start THAT hideous gear grind without getting roflstomped by hardcores who already have full pvp gear from using Tol Barad exploits to get fully outfitted in a single day
not much of a gear grind in PVP... let's be honoest.. you can AFK your way through it.
A grind is a grind, whether you're at the keyboard or not.
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I just wish they would make the iLvl not 333, so I can stop getting scrubs in PvP gear in my heroic.
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Spookysheep posted:
Blizzard does not want you crafting a set of PVE gear at 85, they want you hideously grinding dungeons for it.
The crafted sets are intended strictly to get people PVP'ing as soon as they hit 85, so they can start THAT hideous gear grind without getting roflstomped by hardcores who already have full pvp gear from using Tol Barad exploits to get fully outfitted in a single day
I agree except they don't get roflstomped *as badly* with the crafted. 
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your supposed to make the blue resil gear and use it to get the blue pvp gear...then use that to queue for heroics and get real pve gear while pissing off your groupmates.
learn2play
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Actually the crafted PvP set isn't all that bad for fresh 85 for PvE content.
If you have also been questing, you can also pick up up some reputation gear and quest gear to go along with that.
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So how's Rift? I hear there are no grinds and the classes are balanced over there! 
It never ceases to amaze me how people flock to an inferior WoW-clone with even worse balance issues coming to the fore and they want to imply that they are returning here to tap-dance on us poor WoW sucker's grave. SHENANIGANS I say! 
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Reforging was one of the big disappointments for me. I still don't understand why we were so limited in what stats could be adjusted. It seems to me that Blizzard could virtually eliminate gear grinds for both PvE and PvP by simply allowing players to reforge resilience.
Then again, maybe that's the point.
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as a hardcore pvper i agree...even for pvp i wish i could reforge the resilience into something more offensive. pretty stupid that i have to pve to get the pvp armor that i want to use. its annoying that WoW keeps telling me i need to gear defensively even as a rogue.
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So how's Rift? I hear there are no grinds and the classes are balanced over there!
It never ceases to amaze me how people flock to an inferior WoW-clone with even worse balance issues coming to the fore and they want to imply that they are returning here to tap-dance on us poor WoW sucker's grave. SHENANIGANS I say!
January called. They want their histrionics back.
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Why couldn't they have just made a resilience buff that everyone gets while you are in an arena or battleground and then just made the raid gear or pvp gear have the same stats but with different armor models.
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They dont do this becuse they dont want the best pve gear to dominate pvp like it did way back (and in many games) thus forcing hardcore pvp people to do hardcore pve for the top gear.
As much as I hate beatin on someone for 20 min so far resil is the best way to make pvp and pve gear different enough.
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But ... Resilience doesn't crit
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Spookysheep posted:
Blizzard does not want you crafting a set of PVE gear at 85, they want you hideously grinding dungeons for it.
The crafted sets are intended strictly to get people PVP'ing as soon as they hit 85, so they can start THAT hideous gear grind without getting roflstomped by hardcores who already have full pvp gear from using Tol Barad exploits to get fully outfitted in a single day
Yup. I wasnt able to benefit from this exploit sadly.
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Eternal_Midnight posted:
Reforging was one of the big disappointments for me. I still don't understand why we were so limited in what stats could be adjusted. It seems to me that Blizzard could virtually eliminate gear grinds for both PvE and PvP by simply allowing players to reforge resilience.
Then again, maybe that's the point.
You know as well ad I, that is the point. What else are you going to do in an MMO other then grind for gear?
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Diskent posted:
Eternal_Midnight posted:
Reforging was one of the big disappointments for me. I still don't understand why we were so limited in what stats could be adjusted. It seems to me that Blizzard could virtually eliminate gear grinds for both PvE and PvP by simply allowing players to reforge resilience.
Then again, maybe that's the point.
You know as well ad I, that is the point. What else are you going to do in an MMO other then grind for gear?
In Ultima Online there was no gear grind at all, zero. And we had the best community of any MMO I've ever played.
I really wish they would upgrade the graphics for that game.
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They dont do this becuse they dont want the best pve gear to dominate pvp like it did way back (and in many games) thus forcing hardcore pvp people to do hardcore pve for the top gear.
As much as I hate beatin on someone for 20 min so far resil is the best way to make pvp and pve gear different enough.
What I was getting at was that you could do either grind you wanted and be competitive in pvp or pve and not have to go through 2 different gear grinds.
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wicked_impulse2k3 posted:
Mezminister posted:
They dont do this becuse they dont want the best pve gear to dominate pvp like it did way back (and in many games) thus forcing hardcore pvp people to do hardcore pve for the top gear.
As much as I hate beatin on someone for 20 min so far resil is the best way to make pvp and pve gear different enough.
What I was getting at was that you could do either grind you wanted and be competitive in pvp or pve and not have to go through 2 different gear grinds.
What you keep missing is that millions of players (see the droves of PVP servers), do not want to carebear it through a PVE grind, for any reason.
PVP gear is for PVP'ers, not carebears.
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