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Topic: Official NCAA tournament conversation thread!!

.Juzam. Title: Moderator I am THAT damn good! Posts: 7,860 Registered: Jul 11, '01 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 7,730 User ID: 242,040	Subject: Official NCAA tournament conversation thread!!
	Can't wait to see the brackets so I can find out who Kansas will lose to in the second round this year! -----signature----- 61% of all hits on the internet are on sex sites.. .. .... ...... So.. what are you doing here?
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Amendial Posts: 5,462 Registered: Sep 8, '04 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 5,356 User ID: 965,019	Subject: Official NCAA tournament conversation thread!!
	I think they will make it past the second round this year, however, the Sweet 16 is looking like it is going to be a bitter day here in Lawrence. I can not believe they put a garbage team like Missouri in the tournament over Colorado. Colorado finished higher in the Big 12, and went farther in the tournament than Missouri, absolutely horrible decision by the selection commitee. -----signature----- Basur - 50 Jedi Shadow - Alduras - 30 Jedi Knight - Infinite Empire Brienna - 50 Sith Sorc - The Crucible Pits Kansas University Class of 2013! 2008 National Champions!! 2008 Orange Bowl Champions!!
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Amendial Posts: 5,462 Registered: Sep 8, '04 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 5,356 User ID: 965,019	Subject: Official NCAA tournament conversation thread!!
	Also looking at the top four seeds in each region, I have to question the selection commitee's choice of where to put each seed. I think the two number one seeds with the hardest path to Houston are Kansas, and Ohio State. Ohio state is the number one overall seed, and Kansas is the number two, they should have the easier paths; instead they are rewarded with Purdue or Syracuse instead of BYU, Notre Dame or North Carolina instead of San Diego State. The only break for Ohio State is its number 4 seed, Kentucky, they got the easiest of the four's. -----signature----- Basur - 50 Jedi Shadow - Alduras - 30 Jedi Knight - Infinite Empire Brienna - 50 Sith Sorc - The Crucible Pits Kansas University Class of 2013! 2008 National Champions!! 2008 Orange Bowl Champions!!
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.Juzam. Title: Moderator I am THAT damn good! Posts: 7,860 Registered: Jul 11, '01 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 7,730 User ID: 242,040	Subject: Official NCAA tournament conversation thread!!
	I would have to disagree with you. The easiest brackets belong to Duke and Kansas. Ohio State and Pitt are much harder regionals. While Ohio State should have the easiest bracket, Kansas gets a practical cakewalk to the final four this year. -----signature----- 61% of all hits on the internet are on sex sites.. .. .... ...... So.. what are you doing here?
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Amendial Posts: 5,462 Registered: Sep 8, '04 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 5,356 User ID: 965,019	Subject: Official NCAA tournament conversation thread!!
	How so? Notre Dame would easily handle any of the other number 2 seeds, Purdue defeated Ohio State and could easily be the best of the three seeds, even though you can make a very legit argument for UConn as the best three seed. Louisville who made it to the championship of the Big East, the hands down best basketball conference in America, I would say they can probably handle any of the four seeds. IMO the best of each of the 2-4 seeds is in KU's bracket, save from UConn, but Purdue is a close second. That is a far cry from a cake walk. The only number two seed that can hold a candle to Notre Dame would be North Carolina, and likewise the only three seed that can hold up to Purdue is UConn. The only four seed to hold up with Louisville is Wisconsin. There is not a single team in the top four seeds of KU's bracket that I would feel like we are a sure win against. Maybe that is a good thing, because it always seems to be the sure wins that we lose to. In the other three brackets there is at least one team in the top four I feel is a cupcake. Ohio State has three of the top four seeds being in the solid catagory. I do not buy into Kentucky on bit. Pittsburgh gets BYU as its three seed, and Florida as its two seed, both very questionable. K-State at five makes that region tougher though, but not more so that Ohio State's. Duke may have the easiest trip to Houston.....again. -----signature----- Basur - 50 Jedi Shadow - Alduras - 30 Jedi Knight - Infinite Empire Brienna - 50 Sith Sorc - The Crucible Pits Kansas University Class of 2013! 2008 National Champions!! 2008 Orange Bowl Champions!!
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.Juzam. Title: Moderator I am THAT damn good! Posts: 7,860 Registered: Jul 11, '01 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 7,730 User ID: 242,040	Subject: Official NCAA tournament conversation thread!!
	Is is just me or does anyone else just not feel comfortable picking teams to win this year? Every team it seems like I am saying to myself that they are a weak team with some flaws... but then I look at the other teams in their part of the bracket and I don't see any good teams there either. -----signature----- 61% of all hits on the internet are on sex sites.. .. .... ...... So.. what are you doing here?
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Amendial Posts: 5,462 Registered: Sep 8, '04 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 5,356 User ID: 965,019	Subject: Official NCAA tournament conversation thread!!
	This year I had an absolutely tough time picking teams to win. I lied a few weeks ago, I ended up taking Kansas to win it all, but do not feel one bit sure of that selection. I just couldn't settle on a team that will beat them, and ended up taking them all the way. Its hard to decide who will win what this year, the gap between teams is so narrow. -----signature----- Basur - 50 Jedi Shadow - Alduras - 30 Jedi Knight - Infinite Empire Brienna - 50 Sith Sorc - The Crucible Pits Kansas University Class of 2013! 2008 National Champions!! 2008 Orange Bowl Champions!!
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Amendial Posts: 5,462 Registered: Sep 8, '04 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 5,356 User ID: 965,019	Subject: Official NCAA tournament conversation thread!!
	What an exciting first day of tournament coverage. The upsets in Denver, Princton almost bringing down the legendary Kentucky, buzzer beaters early in the day. I am excited for the second day tomorrow, should be fairly exciting. -----signature----- Basur - 50 Jedi Shadow - Alduras - 30 Jedi Knight - Infinite Empire Brienna - 50 Sith Sorc - The Crucible Pits Kansas University Class of 2013! 2008 National Champions!! 2008 Orange Bowl Champions!!
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.Juzam. Title: Moderator I am THAT damn good! Posts: 7,860 Registered: Jul 11, '01 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 7,730 User ID: 242,040	Subject: Official NCAA tournament conversation thread!!
	So.. um.. Amendial, now that we have seen the results from weekend one, what was that you were saying about the higher seeded teams in the bracket with Kansas? It sure looks like the other 3 brackets all have 3/4 of the top seeds left while Kansas sits as the lone top 10 seed in its bracket. I believe I stated that Ohio State and Pitt have the hardest brackets and one of them is already out. Duke's bracket has actually held up the best but I still think they will make it. I just wish I had listened to myself when I was picking my bracket, cause I am gonna finish dead last this year! -----signature----- 61% of all hits on the internet are on sex sites.. .. .... ...... So.. what are you doing here?
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bronjames1230 Posts: 6 Registered: Jun 18, '07 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 6 User ID: 1,229,818	Subject: Official NCAA tournament conversation thread!!
	kansas will prob win too many weapons -----signature----- (none)
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Amendial Posts: 5,462 Registered: Sep 8, '04 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 5,356 User ID: 965,019	Subject: Official NCAA tournament conversation thread!!
	Richmond was an easy pick this weekend. Notre Dame was a complete bust, as was the Big east as a whole. I thought Notre Dame would be scary based off of what they did in Big East play, but it would appear all of that was completely overrated. And Purdue, well, I was not really all that hot on purdue to begin with, however, I still think they are better than Syracuse, and BYU. The fact of the matter is that the best teams don't always win in the NCAA tournament. But I was thinking about this bracket today, and I will say you're right; it does appear KU has the easiest road to the final four, but maybe Richmond, VCU, and FSU were completely underrated and are legit challengers for a final four. We will find out this weekend, but do not be completely surprised to see Richmond in the final four after this next weekend. I am confident KU will get it done, but as evidenced by my bracket, I obviously had a feeling Richmond was going to cause major trouble, they were not a 12 seed. -----signature----- Basur - 50 Jedi Shadow - Alduras - 30 Jedi Knight - Infinite Empire Brienna - 50 Sith Sorc - The Crucible Pits Kansas University Class of 2013! 2008 National Champions!! 2008 Orange Bowl Champions!!
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.Juzam. Title: Moderator I am THAT damn good! Posts: 7,860 Registered: Jul 11, '01 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 7,730 User ID: 242,040	Subject: Official NCAA tournament conversation thread!!
	Amendial, Not trying to flame here, but how does this ku loss fit into your rankings of historic ku ncaa tourney flameouts? I don't know how this would compare to some of the shocking early round upsets, or is it worse because ku had the easiest path to the final game ever (or at least would have with a 16, 9, 12, 11, and 8 seeds) To me this would be worse, because I know if it had been Mizzou I would have been salivating at the thought of such an easy path to the finals. Granted, being from Mizzou I would know that we would lose cause we don't do that whole final 4 thing.. -----signature----- 61% of all hits on the internet are on sex sites.. .. .... ...... So.. what are you doing here?
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Amendial Posts: 5,462 Registered: Sep 8, '04 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 5,356 User ID: 965,019	Subject: Official NCAA tournament conversation thread!!
	No team that makes the elite eight should be considered a cake walk, especially after watching George Mason a few years back. I think people get caught up in the seeding of a team more than how a team is playing; and there is no denying that the past five games, VCU has been one of the best teams in the nation. This loss stings because it appeared to be a sure trip to the national title game, however, I did not think KU had a team that could win it all unlike last year. Last years loss was much worse than this years loss, just for the fact KU was unarguably the best team in the nation. Also I think the Paul Pierce 98 loss to Purdue or Rhode Island in the second round ranks above this loss. How we remember this loss will partly depend upon what happens next weekend. If VCU goes on to win the title, then how could you look at this as being one of the worst in KU history. Another factor about this loss in the National Title just three years ago, this loss hurts much less than say the elite eight loss to UCLA a few years back simply because we havn't had to endure 19 years of failure to get to this point. Plus I understand the nature of the tournament, the best team does not always win; the hottest team does, and there is clearly no team hotter than VCU right now. What makes this loss hurt the most is the thought that VCU should have never been in the tournament to being with. The silver lining in all of this could be the Morris twins deciding to come back, and KU bringing back a highly talented team next year, that should be more capable of making a run to the final four. We need a leader to step up amoung our guards, my hope is that next season Johnson and Selby can step up and take control of the guards on KU's team. Our guards are why we lost this game, we shot horribly from behind the arc. Looking at a four man rotation of Johnson, Taylor, Selby, and Releford next year though we should be alright, with the two Morris twins and Robinson on the inside. -----signature----- Basur - 50 Jedi Shadow - Alduras - 30 Jedi Knight - Infinite Empire Brienna - 50 Sith Sorc - The Crucible Pits Kansas University Class of 2013! 2008 National Champions!! 2008 Orange Bowl Champions!!
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Caledric Title: Pew! Pew! Pew! Posts: 22,743 Registered: Dec 22, '01 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 21,691 User ID: 570,169	Subject: Official NCAA tournament conversation thread!!
	Amendial posted: What makes this loss hurt the most is the thought that VCU should have never been in the tournament to being with. So if VCU should never have been in the tourney... and they beat Kansas... that means Kansas had no right being there either. -----signature----- Planetside 2 -- Outcasters "As One" Marmot BR 0 (waiting for beta!)
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aurther-the-leader Title: Omnipotent Anarchist Posts: 27,789 Registered: Aug 1, '01 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 27,217 User ID: 295,494	Subject: Official NCAA tournament conversation thread!!
	Caledric posted: Amendial posted: What makes this loss hurt the most is the thought that VCU should have never been in the tournament to being with. So if VCU should never have been in the tourney... and they beat Kansas... that means Kansas had no right being there either. so you weight 1 game over a whole season? taking into account vcus season before the tourny they had no right being in it. that said once in anyone has a shot and vcu proved that. -----signature----- Hello WoW blows. http://www.contillations.com/
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Amendial Posts: 5,462 Registered: Sep 8, '04 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 5,356 User ID: 965,019	Subject: Official NCAA tournament conversation thread!!
	Performance in the tournament has no reflection on whether or not a team deserved to be in the tournament. There is no way you can tell me VCU deserved that bid over VT or even better yet Colorado. Obviously now it looks like a great move by the commitee, but whos to say that Colorado would not have done the exact same thing given the chance. The fact of the matter is VCU did not deserve to be in the tournament over Colorado. And for the record, VCU's victory over Kansas does not in any way mean they are the better team. Kansas was cold as ice from all but 8 minutes of this game. And it wasn't VCU's defense that made them that way, Kansas missed over a dozen wide open threes, and almost a million free throws and lay ups. VCU was absolutely lights out form behind the arc, shoot well above their season average. If this was a best of three series Kansas would win it in three, if it was a best of five Kansas would win it in four, if it was a best of seven Kansas would win it in five. March Madness is not unfortantly, which is why just as often as not the best team in the nation does not win the national title in basketball. The only team in the final four that could make a case for being one of the best in the nation is UConn. This is why I have said for years, if college basketball wants to truely crown one of the best as champion they need to adopt the college baseball system. But they don't want that, they want the underdog story like VCU, George Mason, Northern Iowa,...,ect. There are only a few of us die hard college basketball fans that want to see a series of double elimination tournments established, that would be the best system. -----signature----- Basur - 50 Jedi Shadow - Alduras - 30 Jedi Knight - Infinite Empire Brienna - 50 Sith Sorc - The Crucible Pits Kansas University Class of 2013! 2008 National Champions!! 2008 Orange Bowl Champions!!
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