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I've never really considered it before... most of my toons have been levelled on rested because I don't play 'that' often. But I logged in a couple of times at the weekend and the difference between resting in an Inn versus not in an Inn became quite apparent.
I have always known there to be a difference, but it has never really affected me - but as I logged in and noticed I only had 0.5cm of rested, it made me wonder why they had the difference in the first place???
I can kinda understand that initially they wanted to give people a reason to come back to town, but given the maturity of the servers, most people seem to hang around Orig/SW anyway (when they are not farming/dungeons/PVP).
Those of us who are leveling would probably appreciate not having to come back to town in order to get rested - and I know we can go to any Inn to rest, but my HS is in Orig so that I can get to Deepholm/Hyjal/etc easily and I can visit bank/AH.
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Hornet_MT posted:
I have always known there to be a difference, but it has never really affected me - but as I logged in and noticed I only had 0.5cm of rested, it made me wonder why they had the difference in the first place???
There was a time when the WoW development team still included some RPGers, who thought that it made sense that there should be some benefit to the adventurers 'resting' in an inn or town, increasing socialization chances and perhaps even encouraging people to interact.
None of this has anything remotely to do with what WoW is now, of course, and the current developers wouldn't know an rpg from an fps, but they're too busy inserting random numbers into class mechanics and finding new ways to make the game less fun to get around to getting rid of the mechanic (probably by making everyone permanently rested).
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Broken_Kayfabe posted:
There was a time when the WoW development team still included some RPGers, who thought that it made sense that there should be some benefit to the adventurers 'resting' in an inn or town, increasing socialization chances and perhaps even encouraging people to interact.
Ahhhh!!! Of course...
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Yup. Back then, most of the time people just ran into the Inn to just logout.
The only "socializing" I ever saw was on the RPG servers at that Goldshire in. Man... Striptease ftw 
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Broken_Kayfabe posted:
Hornet_MT posted:
I have always known there to be a difference, but it has never really affected me - but as I logged in and noticed I only had 0.5cm of rested, it made me wonder why they had the difference in the first place???
There was a time when the WoW development team still included some RPGers, who thought that it made sense that there should be some benefit to the adventurers 'resting' in an inn or town, increasing socialization chances and perhaps even encouraging people to interact.
None of this has anything remotely to do with what WoW is now, of course, and the current developers wouldn't know an rpg from an fps, but they're too busy inserting random numbers into class mechanics and finding new ways to make the game less fun to get around to getting rid of the mechanic (probably by making everyone permanently rested).
So much truth both literally said, and unspecified here.
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All rested rested does now is slow down my leveling. I have created a portable mage on my second account to move my main players around. He is level 50 now but would be at 80 or better if I did not have to wait a week between leveling runs.
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Fist_de_Yuma posted:
All rested rested does now is slow down ... if I did not have to wait a week between leveling runs.
Really? You have to wait a week between leveling and rested xp slows you down?
Did you applaud the idea of permanent rested xp as a really great and innovative one that should be implemented immediately, perhaps?
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You have a reading problem? You missed my point completely. I only do leveling runs when I have rested xp. What of it?
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Wolfpaw's poitn I think is that you said rested xp slowed down your lvling. /shrug You wouldn't be worried about it "slowing down your leveling" if you had it all the time would you?
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Wolfpaw_We posted:
Did you applaud the idea of permanent rested xp as a really great and innovative one that should be implemented immediately, perhaps?
Actually I'm pretty sure that you level faster without rested xp in 2011, than you did with rested in 2004, after the tweaks they've made to xp requirements and quest rewards. And that's without even considering heirlooms. 
Fist_de_Yuma posted:
You have a reading problem? You missed my point completely. I only do leveling runs when I have rested xp. What of it?
So it's not rested that's slowing down your leveling, it's your OCD problems that are slowing you down.
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To get away from the lame kiddy EGO debate.
I would like to see Rested XP raise faster. At this time I can burn through a nights of rest in a few minutes. Even waiting a week and I'm into red after the first instance. I agree with the cap but a x2 or better growth rate would make guys like me very happy. I agree that not everyone is running around with 17 players so few have my play style. The question was asked and I had an answer. My veiws tend to be focused on my play style. Others will have different play styles which makes for different views.
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I was tempted to post a double facepalm picture, but the forums got better recently so I don't want to ruin it...
Seriously, leveling is so fast nowadays... can't you just play WITHOUT rest XP?
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The_Korrigan posted:
I was tempted to post a double facepalm picture, but the forums got better recently so I don't want to ruin it...
Seriously, leveling is so fast nowadays... can't you just play WITHOUT rest XP?
But you level faster with rested XP! 
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They should add a level 1-80 slider bar to character creation, obverusly.
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Quazimortal posted:
But you level faster with rested XP!
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I don't level without rested xp either. Luckily, I ALWAYS have rested xp since I can usually only play about 3 hours per week....
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i'm an altoholic and i never played all that much to begin with so i used to make sure i was playing a toon that was rested.
after coming back to WoW and tearing through Duskwood on a lvl 20 i burned through rested REAL quick. killing only what is needed for quests, i still have 2 quest chains to go and i'm almost 28.
cant remember what i get out of the guild perk too...
but i should be almost 29 when i finish a 20-25 zone 
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The fact that you burn through rested xp in a few minutes after waiting a week shows you how fast exp is actually generated these days.
Forget the blue bar...just go play, and you will level plenty fast enough.
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GutterSludge posted:
Forget the blue bar...just go play, and you will level plenty fast enough.
i figured that out REAL quick after coming back...i dont even bother logging out in an inn/city anymore.
i like to finish areas, another thing that i may abandon due to everything being green.
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I had to think about this but I stand my my statement. Rested XP does slow down my leveling. If all XP was at rested level I would level more. If no XP was at rested level I would level more. Of course time is limited so other things would slip if all I did was level.
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lol at the above
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GutterSludge posted:
lol at the above
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Fist_de_Yuma posted:
I had to think about this but I stand my my statement. Rested XP does slow down my leveling. If all XP was at rested level I would level more. If no XP was at rested level I would level more. Of course time is limited so other things would slip if all I did was level.
That does sound strange Fist. If you had a half a bar of blue you don't necessarily have to quit playing when its gone do you. So if you kept playing you would be leveling quicker then if you did not have it.
I do know what you are getting at. When my blue bar is gone I will typically log and go to an alt that still has some. So my leveling across alts is faster but it slows down my real time leveling per character.
So if you multiple the percentage of blue by your time and then average it out across your alts taking into account the log in and out time you would come up with a formula sort of like %blue/#alts-logtime and then you could really optimize your leveling without all the inexactness of just logging when you quit having fun 
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Fist_de_Yuma posted:
I had to think about this but I stand my my statement. Rested XP does slow down my leveling. If all XP was at rested level I would level more. If no XP was at rested level I would level more. Of course time is limited so other things would slip if all I did was level.
we (i do anyway) understaned what you're saying, we (i do anyway) just think it's stupid...
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what Fist said makes complete sense.
HE only plays when rested...where are people missing how HE plays?
in WoW time, YES, his toons level faster, but who the hell lives/talks in WoW time?
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No, what he says is a fallacy. Rested does not make him do anything, he chooses to level only when rested.
Ergo, HE makes himself level slower, not rested xp. Rested xp is a condition, not a sentient thing that can influence others.
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are you really that out of touch with how the english language is used?
in english, NOUNS (any noun) can cause VERBS to happen. there's no implication that the noun be a sentient being.
- dams cause water to divert
- gravity causes matter to move
- etc etc
non sentient nouns cause sentient actions all the time too.
- tax codes casue people to spend differently
- sales cause people to buy differently
- etc etc
rested XP clearly causes some people to behave differently. whether it's something drastic and silly like the person we're talking about here, or something less severe like how one of my guildies scrolls through all his alts to "use up" their rested XP before he'll do any jewlrey making for me...
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seanh_race posted:
are you really that out of touch with how the english language is used?
in english, NOUNS (any noun) can cause VERBS to happen. there's no implication that the noun be a sentient being.
- dams cause water to divert
- gravity causes matter to move
- etc etc
non sentient nouns cause sentient actions all the time too.
- tax codes casue people to spend differently - no, people choose to react differently
- sales cause people to buy differently - no, people choose to react differently
- etc etc
Rested XP clearly causes some people to behave differently. whether it's something drastic and silly like the person we're talking about here, or something less severe like how one of my guildies scrolls through all his alts to "use up" their rested XP before he'll do any jewlrey making for me...
Umm yea whatever. I am sure rested xp is forcing all kinds of people to do things. Seeing as how it can actively control what you do or how you react? (<-- sarcasm, in case you couldn't catch that).
Rested xp is a condition, it has zero say in how you behave. You control you own actions, the way you choose to react to rested xp is all you. That little blue bar can in no way MAKE you do anything, it is all your own reactions. Your reaction has everything to do with your choice and nothing to do with rested xp forcing you to do anything.
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