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Tol Barad
* Attacking forces will receive a 200% capture speed bonus when they control 2 keeps.
* Defending forces will receive a 200% capture speed bonus when they control all 3 keeps.
the above is from the notes.
Now my question is.. if you have all 3 keeps.. why would you need to capture them 200% faster?
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Isn't there like a grey area during the capture transition? I guess this would help the defender "keep" a tower much easier if an attacker had started the capture process but then got killed/left/ect.
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To fill that little tiny 15% of the bar for your faction quicker.
Look at it like this:
While it's not a big change in general, it still impacts it. With you owning all 3 at 200%, it means that the opposing faction is going to have more trouble capping the first/ new one. Since the cap timer is based on the # of people in the area, the attackers will need more to take one from you with a bonus to your defensive cap speed.
Example: You will now need 15 people attacking, what it use to take 5 people to cap in the same time frame. It's essentially a buff for owning it up and being able to hold three bases as is.
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I don't see how that would be much if any help to defense. it's just a short matter of time until lose a base. other than first 60 secs of fight. aren't going to hold 3 bases.
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They didnt need to buff the Defending faction in TB to begin with. They should have added the attacker bonus and left it at that.
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Kriegprojekt posted:
They didnt need to buff the Defending faction in TB to begin with. They should have added the attacker bonus and left it at that.
Why? Then theres no point in defending without the buff, so it will just switch hands every time the battle is open. This would be against what Blizzard wanted. It's not a place meant to be switched every single time.
Also a guildy just mentioned that the faction portions of the bar take 2/5ths of it per, with 1/5th being the gray area. As opposed to the old bar being 3/5ths gray.
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Here's a good run down of the pre-4.0.6 issues with Tol Barad and why the changes cited above were made.
http://wow.joystiq.com/search/?q=tol+barad&invocationType=wl-auto
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I bet it will work and make TB a more exciting fight.
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I haven't played it in release, but I didn't really like it in beta.
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Well they definitely botched it this time around. It changes hands every time the battle is currently going, which is against the entire philosophy behind the blog post they made on the changes.
This seems to be a normal occurrence with Cata. 
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If you look at the history of pretty much every BG, it seems to take Blizz a long time to come close to getting it right (if they ever do). By the time they got Wintergrasp balanced a lot of folks were bored with it and moved on.
Last night in Tol Barad I was with an alliance on defense and horde beat the crap out of us and took it in about 8 minutes. Sadly, when it came alliance turn on attack, we couldn't manage it. Just sucky play. From time to time, you get folks in Tol Barad who are pretty good and know what is up. But, like most every BG, its not uncommon to see folks running off on tangents.
On the bright side, I like any BG that is NOT cross-realm, because, over time you get to know folks you pvp with - both enemies and allies. And, in my book, that usually makes it a better experience.
Sad change was taking away all herbs and mine nodes 15 minutes before and throughout the battle.
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