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Think they'll offer TCU a +1 game or hide away with their meaningless crystal football? Personally I think they are going to hide as they know TCU would beat them.
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id like to see Stanford in that mix and see how it would play out. but with Cam still being under investigation due to his jackass of a dad...its possible that they might lose the trophy.
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I did not watch a single bowl game up until last nights Championship game this year. I have decided that instead of watching the bowl games and whining about the system I will just not watch them or pay attention to the system. Yesterdays title game is the first one in a half dozen plus years I have watched, and I only watched it last night because some people from across the hall wanted to come over and watch it. If you do not like the system, then stop supporting the system. If people stopped going to these games and stopped feeding money into the system it would change; as it is now though they keep raising profits, you don't change what works and obviously from a financial viewpoint the current system works.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/bowls10/news/story?id=6011509
This article kind of sums it up. This title game drew in record tv ratings, that is not the kind of stuff that is going to motivate change. Now imagine what some of the powers that be would be dealing if this was a record low cable viewing instead. They would have to at least think about the potential of changing the system.
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Liquid741 posted:
id like to see Stanford in that mix and see how it would play out. but with Cam still being under investigation due to his jackass of a dad...its possible that they might lose the trophy.
You act like Cam really didn't know... He knew and he was part of the negotiations. Auburn will lose the trophy and Cam is probably already talking to Reggie Bush about what the proper procedure is for returning his heisman.
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id like to see Stanford in that mix and see how it would play out. but with Cam still being under investigation due to his jackass of a dad...its possible that they might lose the trophy.
You act like Cam really didn't know... He knew and he was part of the negotiations. Auburn will lose the trophy and Cam is probably already talking to Reggie Bush about what the proper procedure is for returning his heisman.
of course i think he knew, but the way i understand it...he is under investigation due to his fathers actions not his. if they find him guilty in this matter, i would like to see the punishment follow him to the NFL...and be severe.
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Not really false BCS champs. They are in fact BCS champs.
Best champs money can buy! 
But lets be honest here, do you think that Oregon would have been there without all the Nike money?
..and Amendial, lets be honest here as well, you didn't watch any bowl games because it was basketball season at ku by like.. October 1.
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man IU needs to come into some money somehow...
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I have not watched more than one bowl game a season for many years now. They just do not interest me, I guess I fail to see the point of them for the most part. A 7-6 team playing a 7-6 team for what? Some long winded wired named bowl trophy. I can see some meaning in the BCS bowl games, but not the other 857 bowl games.
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I have not watched more than one bowl game a season for many years now. They just do not interest me, I guess I fail to see the point of them for the most part. A 7-6 team playing a 7-6 team for what? Some long winded wired named bowl trophy. I can see some meaning in the BCS bowl games, but not the other 857 bowl games.
Welcome to the non-basketball fan's problem with "March Madness", after the first weekend or two, does a casual fan keep watching?
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i know i havent paid much attention since Bob Knight left Indiana...kinda took the punch out of the program. Indiana was going down hill and really wasnt competitive, but still had hope. since then, really only pay attention to key games and havent followed it like i used too.
hopefully one day, ill get the fever again...it also just hurts that players only stay for a few years then bolt...i hate this aspect, but i understand its the nature of the beast.
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March Madness still makes some since, cause all the teams that are playing in the second and third week still have a chance to win the national title. Every game in March Madness is meaningful, win and you are still playing for a national title, lose and you are eliminated. Football bowl games are completely different. Every bowl game except for one, or possible two in a very rare case, the teams know that they have been eliminated from national title contention. So the bowl game is really just for fun at that point, no real meaning to it.
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Oh, and with all due respect look who TCwho? plays all year before we jump at contenders...
Tennessee Tech
Baylor
Southern Methodist
Colorado State
Wyoming
Brigham Young
Air Force ( Not to bad but it's still not a great feat to beat these guys... )
UNLV
Utah ( The best you play )
San Diego State
New Mexico
And yes, I will say you looked amazing against Wisconsin but seriously don't make remarks with a schedual like that....
Now on Auburns side can you seriously argue?
Arkansas State ( Not shabby, sure as hell better than Tenn Tech lol )
Mississippi State ( Would kill the morons, easy )
Clemson ( Would be an interesting game )
South Carolina ( Sorry, gamecocks did awesome this year, they've got my vote here )
Louisiana-Monroe ( Suprised TCU does not play these guys lol )
Kentucky ( Nada special )
Arkansas ( Awesome team this year another top 15 )
LSU ( Top 8 team here at least )
Mississippi ( Not so special )
Chattanooga ( Homecoming )
Georgia ( Not bad at all with Green )
Alabama ( They played Michigan State like they were the nation champs.. )
South Carolina ( Again against this good team )
Oregon ( Was not even Cam who did the most damage in this game - Meet our running back Dryer and Mr Fairley... )
As for the Cam Newton ordeal, I think he knew. Regardless, money does not make the player, just where he goes. He also did not win against Oregon, our defense and running did for the most part.
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While I will never suggest that TCU (or any nonBCS school) should ever get the championship, I do think that TCU would have a chance in a game with Auburn. It is my opinion that rankings are tied to rankings. The SEC is ranked highly every year and so when teams beat them they get ranked too. When they lose you get another team ranked. Its like a self perpetuating cycle of rankings that begins each year based upon the 2-3 actual good teams in the conference. This year the SEC had 3 good teams (Auburn, Alabama, LSU) and another that could have been good but didn't do it on the field (Arkansas).
My view of the two teams schedules:
Oregon State - maybe
Tennessee Tech - joke
Baylor - maybe
Southern Methodist - joke
Colorado State - bad
Wyoming - joke
Brigham Young - bad
Air Force - maybe
UNLV - joke
Utah - good
San Diego State - good
New Mexico - joke
Wisconsin - great
Arkansas State - joke
Mississippi State - maybe
Clemson - maybe
South Carolina - maybe
Louisiana-Monroe - joke
Kentucky - bad
Arkansas - good
LSU - great
Mississippi - maybe
Chattanooga - joke
Georgia - maybe
Alabama - great
South Carolina - maybe (again)
Oregon - great
TCU = 5 jokes, 2 bad, 3 maybes, 2 goods, and 1 great win
Auburn = 3 jokes, 1 bad, 6 maybes, 1 good, and 3 great wins
The only one I was torn about was South Carolina. They were not that good, but they did play for the championship. In the end, I decided that it would be like the Big 12 north winner in the championship game a few years ago. The team wasn't that good, but still got there because the teams they played were even worse.
Auburn > TCU over the course of the season easy. In a one game setting at the beginning of the season, Auburn wins. In a one game setting at the end of the season, TCU wins. When you get to rest your team for 7/13 games and stay healthy, you will be closer to full strength at the end of the season. IMO that is why they beat Wisconsin and also why they do not deserve a championship.
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It doesn't matter who would win, what matters is the fact that TCU was robbed of its chance to win. This is completely absurd, this would be like taking Butler out of the final four last year because they were not good enough to be there. They won the games they had to win and got there. Football is an unfair system and it will continue to be an unfair system, and as far as I am concerned they can give out all these national championship, because I will not view anything won without a playoff system as a national championship. I hope the government gets their act together and bans the BCS from calling it a national championship so they will finnally do the right thing.
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Just my 2 cents:
Yes, TCU played an inferior schedule to Auburn, BUT on the other hand the good teams won't schedule them because all they want on their non-conference schedule are cream-puffs.
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Just my 2 cents:
Yes, TCU played an inferior schedule to Auburn, BUT on the other hand the good teams won't schedule them because all they want on their non-conference schedule are cream-puffs.
and we have the first use of the "Boise defense".
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