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Topic: Disc DPS in dungeons at 85.

Unstruck Posts: 1,531 Registered: Mar 24, '04 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 1,524 User ID: 907,325	Subject: Disc DPS in dungeons at 85.
	My spec and gear: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/sentinels/luke/advanced My character, Luke, is dual specced. One is disc PVE heals, and the other is disc PVP. I've toyed with Holy and liked it pre-85, hate it now. And I've toyed with shadow, and do not like the gameplay for it whatsoever. My guild is very healer heavy, so I find I'm being asked to DPS a lot. Since I hate shadow, I went with my PVP spec tonight just for kicks, to see how we do. Four of us entered the queue for a tank, 3 mins later, we ran regular Halls of Origination. Right away the tank questions why I'm not shadow, and I explain. He does a o.O cause he sees we're all in a guild together, but we're fun and cool people, so we rock the instance. Trash DPS was pretty bland, 4.5k average. But bosses, wow. I was shocked. 6.5k DPS on bosses, which includes running around and all that. And it was consistent on each boss. Not to mention, atonement was helping the paladin healer a lot, who kept yawning and saying how easy this run was to heal for some reason. I enlightened him later on. The tank whispered me, "Wow, not bad man. Not bad." All the other DPS were doing about 5.5 to 6k on the bosses, give or take. My rotation: Penance, Devouring Plague, SW: Pain, Holy Fire, Smite x3, Penance, and just kept the dots and holy fire up so smite does more damage. I also used SW: Death when the mob/boss was below 25%, twice in a row, whenever it was available. Not to mention the dispels, cure diseases, and lifegripping the DPS on the first boss up from the lever, epic usage there. So, I'm not saying it's a viable RAID spec, or even heroics. But gee wizz, in my PVP gear, with the talents you see there, pulling my own and leading DPS on boss fights isn't so bad. The guild loved it and want me to rock it more often, and I'd be happy to oblige. I plan on pulling 2 pts from Train of Thought and putting it into Twisted Faith for the hit. Wow, all this without being hit capped. I love it. Anyone have any experience with it? My only gripe was drinking every few pulls, but that seems to be commonplace in this expansion anyway. -----signature----- (none)
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Long_Ranger Posts: 11,282 Registered: Oct 5, '00 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 10,429 User ID: 47,820	Subject: Disc DPS in dungeons at 85.
	Very good report. Disc is a hideous healing prospect at 85 as it currently stands - but I'm with you on the damage front. It's not brilliant, but it's surprisingly solid. Especially if you stack your glyphs right. I've been having fun with DPS disc - I'm also using Shadow, which is ok but runs out of mana fast unless you're constantly self-damaging with Death, and I've had some healers get annoyed by that. Disc is self-sufficient, and can muck in with bubbles and utility when the crap hits the fan. And that can be the difference between a wipe and a win. -----signature----- Long Ranger: back in Dereth again, after a seven-year sleep!
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_Kewk_ Title: Sith Lord Posts: 10,167 Registered: Dec 17, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 9,952 User ID: 749,729	Subject: Disc DPS in dungeons at 85.
	Long_Ranger posted: Very good report. Disc is a hideous healing prospect at 85 as it currently stands - but I'm with you on the damage front. It's not brilliant, but it's surprisingly solid. Especially if you stack your glyphs right. I've been having fun with DPS disc - I'm also using Shadow, which is ok but runs out of mana fast unless you're constantly self-damaging with Death, and I've had some healers get annoyed by that. Disc is self-sufficient, and can muck in with bubbles and utility when the crap hits the fan. And that can be the difference between a wipe and a win. Uuhhh Disc is amazing right now? We raid with 1 Disc in our 10 consistently and my standard heroic has 2 disc priests that alternate. The 3rd is a resto druid. -----signature----- (none)
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Icespot699 Posts: ???? Registered: ???? Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 0 User ID: 0	Subject: Disc DPS in dungeons at 85.
	6.5k dps on bosses the low end of the spectrum for sure but higher than I would have expected at least. In mostly 333 items on my lock I pull 10-12k on most boss fights, my warrior does 15-16k. When I tank I want to see dps at least at 8-9k, if everyones at 6-7k the healer usually OOM's unless highly over geared. -----signature-----
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Unstruck Posts: 1,531 Registered: Mar 24, '04 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 1,524 User ID: 907,325	Subject: Disc DPS in dungeons at 85.
	Icespot699 posted: 6.5k dps on bosses the low end of the spectrum for sure but higher than I would have expected at least. In mostly 333 items on my lock I pull 10-12k on most boss fights, my warrior does 15-16k. When I tank I want to see dps at least at 8-9k, if everyones at 6-7k the healer usually OOM's unless highly over geared. All of us were fresh level 85's, including the paladin healer. Everyone was pulling in 5.5 - 6.5 k DPS, tank, and all 3 DPS. Healer had zero issue with mana -- but, then again, my smites were healing the tank as well, so they may be what made the difference. Also keep in mind, this is regular 85 dungeons, not heroic. -----signature----- (none)
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st0rmie Posts: 5,783 Registered: Apr 20, '05 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 5,764 User ID: 1,043,627	Subject: Disc DPS in dungeons at 85.
	I've seen a few people talking about the "secret strategy" to trivialize Cata heroics: take a party consisting of tank, two healers, and two DPS, rather than the traditional tank, healer and three DPS. Taking a dedicated healer and an atonement-spec Disc priest may actually be an even sweeter spot, since it's really a tank, one and a half healers, and two and a half DPS. Consider, people take three healers in 10-man raids until they outgear them, usually. And certainly more than 5 healers in 25-man raids. So a greater-than-20% healer ratio is normal for challenging content. I'm not surprised it's working well for you! -----signature----- Banquetto <Moonbrook Bowls Club> - 85 Dwarf Priest / Daggerspine Beliandra <Moonbrook Bowls Club> - 80 Human Rogue / Daggerspine Beliarchia <Moonbrook Bowls Club> - 80 Draenei Shaman / Daggerspine
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Shenron_ Posts: 8,665 Registered: Dec 8, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 6,513 User ID: 746,590	Subject: Disc DPS in dungeons at 85.
	well the best healer i have been with in a pug so far has been a disc priest -----signature----- (none)
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Arcilite_I Title: VN's Most Wanted Posts: 34,414 Registered: Jan 27, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 33,674 User ID: 633,598	Subject: Disc DPS in dungeons at 85.
	Funny how I got laughed at a couple months ago when I talked about DPSing as Disc. Here, on this very board. Now here we are, early Cata, and Disc is rounding out to be the hybrid that trivializes heroic content. Not that any of you laughed at me, the ones who did have avoided this thread like the plague I bet. -----signature----- PvPing since 1977
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Malachi256 Posts: 2,454 Registered: Nov 12, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 2,433 User ID: 737,559	Subject: Disc DPS in dungeons at 85.
	We've been having a lot of fun with a shadow priest in our group. MC on the humanoid pulls has been working great, and vampiric embrace does a substantial amount of healing for all the fights where everyone is taking damage (which is most fights). -----signature----- Explorer / Soloer+Small groups / Some PvP MMOin' since UO beta, still waiting for UO 2.0 done right
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Kriegprojekt Posts: 2,653 Registered: Apr 12, '10 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 2,591 User ID: 1,390,814	Subject: Disc DPS in dungeons at 85.
	st0rmie posted: I've seen a few people talking about the "secret strategy" to trivialize Cata heroics: take a party consisting of tank, two healers, and two DPS, rather than the traditional tank, healer and three DPS. Taking a dedicated healer and an atonement-spec Disc priest may actually be an even sweeter spot, since it's really a tank, one and a half healers, and two and a half DPS. Consider, people take three healers in 10-man raids until they outgear them, usually. And certainly more than 5 healers in 25-man raids. So a greater-than-20% healer ratio is normal for challenging content. I'm not surprised it's working well for you! I DPS/Off heal in heroics right now and we roll through them. I think this strategy works well. Healing rain then DPS works nicely and really helps the healer in terms of mana management. -----signature----- http://www.immortal-guild.com/ Deepstrike Server Milkman - Guardian Bard
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Kriegprojekt Posts: 2,653 Registered: Apr 12, '10 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 2,591 User ID: 1,390,814	Subject: Disc DPS in dungeons at 85.
	Arcilite_I posted: Funny how I got laughed at a couple months ago when I talked about DPSing as Disc. Here, on this very board. Now here we are, early Cata, and Disc is rounding out to be the hybrid that trivializes heroic content. Not that any of you laughed at me, the ones who did have avoided this thread like the plague I bet. Are you still running your Disc priest as a main or have you moved to something else? -----signature----- http://www.immortal-guild.com/ Deepstrike Server Milkman - Guardian Bard
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heiromancerdrackus Title: Is, indeed, a fat ass. Posts: 17,283 Registered: Dec 24, '01 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 17,007 User ID: 573,741	Subject: Disc DPS in dungeons at 85.
	I actually prioritize Healing Rain with my MW procs right now specifically for the reasons mentioned above. Just makes it easier. -----signature----- (none)
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Arcilite_I Title: VN's Most Wanted Posts: 34,414 Registered: Jan 27, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 33,674 User ID: 633,598	Subject: Disc DPS in dungeons at 85.
	Kriegprojekt posted: Arcilite_I posted: Funny how I got laughed at a couple months ago when I talked about DPSing as Disc. Here, on this very board. Now here we are, early Cata, and Disc is rounding out to be the hybrid that trivializes heroic content. Not that any of you laughed at me, the ones who did have avoided this thread like the plague I bet. Are you still running your Disc priest as a main or have you moved to something else? Decided to make the mage my main, but the way this expansion is going already I may be moving on to another MMO altogether. -----signature----- PvPing since 1977
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Kriegprojekt Posts: 2,653 Registered: Apr 12, '10 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 2,591 User ID: 1,390,814	Subject: Disc DPS in dungeons at 85.
	Arcilite_I posted: Kriegprojekt posted: Arcilite_I posted: Funny how I got laughed at a couple months ago when I talked about DPSing as Disc. Here, on this very board. Now here we are, early Cata, and Disc is rounding out to be the hybrid that trivializes heroic content. Not that any of you laughed at me, the ones who did have avoided this thread like the plague I bet. Are you still running your Disc priest as a main or have you moved to something else? Decided to make the mage my main, but the way this expansion is going already I may be moving on to another MMO altogether. Fire mages /faceroll. They are amazing. There are no decent MMOs out there atm. -----signature----- http://www.immortal-guild.com/ Deepstrike Server Milkman - Guardian Bard
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Arcilite_I Title: VN's Most Wanted Posts: 34,414 Registered: Jan 27, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 33,674 User ID: 633,598	Subject: Disc DPS in dungeons at 85.
	Kriegprojekt posted: Fire mages /faceroll. They are amazing. There are no decent MMOs out there atm. As always though, gear plays a large role in the /facerollability of any class. My mage is sitting at ilvl 330ish, and I have a whopping 13% base crit, which fire is based off of. I shouldn't have less crit at 85 then I had at 15. -----signature----- PvPing since 1977
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Spookysheep Title: Lieker of Cheese Posts: 21,595 Registered: Jan 9, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 21,166 User ID: 601,475	Subject: Disc DPS in dungeons at 85.
	Was going to try this on my priest but after getting my DK to 85, I really can't see taking another toon through those exact same quests again I hope Rift doesn't suck. I'm definitely giving it a shot. -----signature----- I liek cheese Pirates > Ninjas .....................................
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Arcilite_I Title: VN's Most Wanted Posts: 34,414 Registered: Jan 27, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 33,674 User ID: 633,598	Subject: Disc DPS in dungeons at 85.
	Spookysheep posted: Was going to try this on my priest but after getting my DK to 85, I really can't see taking another toon through those exact same quests again I hope Rift doesn't suck. I'm definitely giving it a shot. Are you in the beta event starting tomorrow? Would be awesome to rock out together -----signature----- PvPing since 1977
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Spookysheep Title: Lieker of Cheese Posts: 21,595 Registered: Jan 9, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 21,166 User ID: 601,475	Subject: Disc DPS in dungeons at 85.
	I wish. I haven't been in a beta in a while -----signature----- I liek cheese Pirates > Ninjas .....................................
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Arcilite_I Title: VN's Most Wanted Posts: 34,414 Registered: Jan 27, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 33,674 User ID: 633,598	Subject: Disc DPS in dungeons at 85.
	Awww wataffles -----signature----- PvPing since 1977
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