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Where's the "none of the above" option?
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Auenwing posted:
Where's the "none of the above" option?
I thought about it, but then I knew everyone would just choose that. 
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Auenwing posted:
Where's the "none of the above" option?
I thought about it, but then I knew everyone would just choose that.
That should pretty much tell you something.
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The only reason I said Druid (besides my main being one) is that it's the one class that has a Tank, Melee DPS, Ranged DPS, adn Healer option to it.
That being said with enough time any of these classes can be played well.
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PvE? nothing. all easy in pve. do the research on the class and it's easy.
PvP? It's hunter. Everyone has at one time or another came up against a hunter in pvp who really knew how to play the class and stood out from the rest. They are few and far between.
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Ardenwolfe posted:
--Syrus-- posted:
Auenwing posted:
Where's the "none of the above" option?
I thought about it, but then I knew everyone would just choose that.
That should pretty much tell you something.
It tells me that this is a very cynical board, myself included. However, even though the game is very easy over all, there are still some classes that are more challenging then others.
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PvE - they are all equally easy if you're half awake at your keyboard.
PvP - mage / warrior have the highest skill caps in my opinion, and are complete monsters when played by someone who knows what they're doing. Mage moreso than warrior, only because for a warrior to truly shine he needs a healer with him.
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It tells me that this is a very cynical board, myself included. However, even though the game is very easy over all, there are still some classes that are more challenging then others.
Cynicism aside, the problem is "more challenging" is relative, not absolute. Classes my daughter can play in her sleep, my husband will never come close to mastering. A spec that's obvious and easy for me, is a struggle for my daughter. It's inherent in our different thought processing, (as well as kinesthetic ability, etcetera.) I can argue that some classes require more thought, some more twitch response, or more rigid adherence to a pattern... these are all different intelligences. Which is why I usually advise folks to pick a class that "best fits" them and their way of thinking. So what is hard for one may be easy for another and vice versa.
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First, the poll missed a class.
Second, the poll doesn't take specs into account. A same class can be faceroll for a spec and more difficult for another.
Third, I think difficulty is more based on role than on class.
Tank / Healer = "harder".
Dps = "easier".
The most critical role is Tank anyway. If the tank screws up, it's most of the times a wipe. If a healer or a DPS screws or dies, you can most of the times recover. Tanks have the less margin for mistakes. And this is coming from someone who played all the four roles (Tank / Healer / Melee DPS / Ranged DPS) in raids.
Then, there are disparities in the same role. I will for instance have way more "admiration" for someone topping the DPS meters on an Enhancement Shaman than a guy facerolling his keyboard on a Mage or on a Frost DK (with the actual game state of course). I voted shaman for that reason, but there are other specs that deserve "admiration" when played well.
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Auenwing posted:
--Syrus-- posted:
It tells me that this is a very cynical board, myself included. However, even though the game is very easy over all, there are still some classes that are more challenging then others.
Cynicism aside, the problem is "more challenging" is relative, not absolute. Classes my daughter can play in her sleep, my husband will never come close to mastering. A spec that's obvious and easy for me, is a struggle for my daughter. It's inherent in our different thought processing, (as well as kinesthetic ability, etcetera.) I can argue that some classes require more thought, some more twitch response, or more rigid adherence to a pattern... these are all different intelligences. Which is why I usually advise folks to pick a class that "best fits" them and their way of thinking. So what is hard for one may be easy for another and vice versa.
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I'm 99% sure DK wasn't on that poll on purpose...
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It tells me that this is a very cynical board, myself included. However, even though the game is very easy over all, there are still some classes that are more challenging then others.
Even so, and I hate to use the term, but balance is more or less achieved if players tend to think all the classes are equally easy to play.
Now, before someone jumps all over me, I'm not saying the game or classes are balanced, but I'm not hearing screams for nerfs like I usually see on any given board.
Besides, it's more or less, personal taste. As far as skill . . . personally?
I think Blizzard removed the need with these new talent changes. Heck, there's even a flash on the screen to tell you when to use an ability. The only way it would get easier is if the computer played the game for you . . . and pets nearly do that too.
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I'm 99% sure DK wasn't on that poll on purpose...
We have a winner! Try to keep up folks.
Second! I wasn't looking to create anti matter with the results of this poll, I was looking to see a general opinion on how everyone viewed the difference classes. Its an opinion based poll.
I agree with what Auenwing was saying, different strokes for different folks, but Korrigan.. lol lighten up man. This is a poll on the VN boards, have some perspective.
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Well, to be fair, I voted priest. Everyone expects them to cure stupid. So, if the class requires you to make your idiot players look good, I'll say that one takes skill . . . and a ton of patience.
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Korrigan plays a DK, fanatically. This poll is like a Falcon Punch to the groin for the guy...
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Korrigan plays a DK, fanatically. This poll is like a Falcon Punch to the groin for the guy...
Glad I could be of service.
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I'm 99% sure DK wasn't on that poll on purpose...
I noticed too, and very carefully (for once!) kept my mouth shut. 
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Well, to be fair, I voted priest. Everyone expects them to cure stupid. So, if the class requires you to make your idiot players look good, I'll say that one takes skill . . . and a ton of patience.
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I say Warrior.
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rogue. surprised its so low on votes.
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rogue. surprised its so low on votes.
I am 99% sure Rogue was the comedy option.
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Anyone who plays a warrior for any time at all knows the answer to this question. My Paladin tank is easy mode compaired to my Warrior tank. Even as a DPS it takes a lot of careful timing with a warrior.
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First, the poll missed a class.
Second, the poll doesn't take specs into account. A same class can be faceroll for a spec and more difficult for another.
Third, I think difficulty is more based on role than on class.
Tank / Healer = "harder".
Dps = "easier".
The most critical role is Tank anyway. If the tank screws up, it's most of the times a wipe. If a healer or a DPS screws or dies, you can most of the times recover. Tanks have the less margin for mistakes. And this is coming from someone who played all the four roles (Tank / Healer / Melee DPS / Ranged DPS) in raids.
Then, there are disparities in the same role. I will for instance have way more "admiration" for someone topping the DPS meters on an Enhancement Shaman than a guy facerolling his keyboard on a Mage or on a Frost DK (with the actual game state of course). I voted shaman for that reason, but there are other specs that deserve "admiration" when played well.
That's ridiculous. Tanks and healers are not harder to play just because their roles are slightly more significant. I play my priest and I just sit there yawning, keeping 25 people alive in Hard Modes and I could do it with one hand.
Difficulty of playing a class "well" doesn't have the slightest thing to do with their role. I've known tanks who think they have the easiest job in the world, same with healers, and I know from a DPS standpoint on my Warlock that it's one of the most difficult classes to master and truly do well as.
As far as the tank being the most critical role: No it's not. Every role in every raid is critical. Take the tanks out, the raid doesn't do anything. Take the healers out, same. Take the DPS out, same. Every role is critical.
But, I'd probably be right if I guessed you played a tank, so we're both biased to our sides.
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Your logic is flawed for the simple reason I explained above.
If a DPS among all dies, the encounter continues, and the DPS will most likely be combat ressed.
If a Healer among all dies, same thing.
If a tank dies... there are only one, two, or rarely three tanks for a raid boss. When there are two, it's always for a good reason, like the need to tank switch because of a debuff, or the need to take care of adds. If a tank screws up, misses a cooldown, screws up a taunt, fails to intercept adds, doesn't place the boss properly or oriented properly, it's immediately several deaths in the raid, at best, and a wipe at worse.
Note that I also didn't say "harder" role, but "critical" role. Very different things. I will also add "involved" role. As I said, I played all roles in a raid context, and the reason I went back to tank with the DK (after being tank with my Druid before a break) is that the role involves so much more than just clicking buttons and facerolling your keyboard to top a meter. It's simple, after playing tank, I'm quickly bored when I have to do another role. And all the people I know whose main is a tank have the same reaction.
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"Hey everyone look at me! I'm a tank which makes me soooo very important!"
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This is the kind of guy who walks around life very frustrated that no one else but he recognizes his "awesomeness".
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Your logic is flawed for the simple reason that you disagree with my opinion.
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Korrigan, I suggest you step back for a couple minutes, re-read what I wrote, and then tell me my logic is flawed again.
My logic is perfectly sound, but I can see where you simply don't like the logic since you're a tank. It must be nice having healers focused on your survival while you pop cooldowns every few minutes and generally don't need to avoid mechanics.
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is that the role involves so much more than just clicking buttons and facerolling your keyboard to top a meter.
Really?
By the looks of that armory profile, you've probably done HLK. Can you honestly say in that fight, or most other encounters on the Hard Mode side of ICC, that a DPS just sits there facerolling to top a meter? That DPS doesn't have to avoid mechanics or focus on other things than a rotation? Cmon, man.
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Maybe you should read what I've said, notably about the number of players for each role in a raid, and having less people for a role leaving less room for error...
If it can make you feel better, healers are definitely second on the "critical role" list, and they are only second because there are usually more than tanks, so they can "take over" until the dead healer is combat ressed. A typical raid has 1-3 tanks, 6-8 healers and the rest being DPS. It's pretty easy to see which roles weight more when they fail or die.
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My logic is perfectly sound, but I can see where you simply don't like the logic since you're a tank. It must be nice having healers focused on your survival while you pop cooldowns every few minutes and generally don't need to avoid mechanics.
You obviously don't have a clue, maybe you should play a tank (in a serious raid environment of course, and not facerolling heroics). As I said, I played all three roles in raids, and I know the differences.
Wanna know why tanks are so rare even for heroics, and why they have 1 second queue times when healers have a bit more and DPS have 10+ minutes? Very simple - people don't like the responsibility, they prefer faceroll as DPS and top meters, lost in the mass of the other DPS, where it's most of the times unseen when they screw up. When you screw as a tank, the consequences are immediate and most of the times fatal.
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By the looks of that armory profile, you've probably done HLK. Can you honestly say in that fight, or most other encounters on the Hard Mode side of ICC, that a DPS just sits there facerolling to top a meter? That DPS doesn't have to avoid mechanics or focus on other things than a rotation? Cmon, man.
Of course DPS have things to do. But you're still ignoring what I said about numbers. If out of 15ish DPS, if one dies, it's not the end of the world, and he'll be ressed, so if he screws and "stands in the fire", it's way less encounter breaking than if a tank, or a healer does it.
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I can't believe some of you are still debating pve difficulty of any class or type.
Take a good player and they can in a manner of hours be 90% competent in that class. In a matter of a day of playing and doing a little research and they will be excellent.
Stick a bad player in any class and they will suck. These people are the ones that chronically bake their feet in fire/acid. You know that in any movement fight they are probably going to be the ones to die first.
The difficulty in pve lies in learning new encounters while carrying the lower echelon players. (Cheers for 10 mans)
It most certainly isn't because some class is harder to play than another.
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I pretty much agree with what you said, Mythril.
That's why it's easier for a "bad player" to hide among the mass of DPS than to stand out as a tank or a healer. It's only when they queue at tank/healer in heroics for shorter queue times that you really notice them. Have a bad DPS in a 5 man? Most of the times you just deal with it, and ignore him. But have a bad tank or healer, you notice it immediately.
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Based on the average random pug, I'd say all of them.
Based on personal experience, I'd say none of them are particularly difficult, although I could break it down like this:
PvE tank - none. I've played them all, and they're very similar.
PvE dps - cat druid I guess, by a hair.
PvE heals - no idea. None of them seem real difficult, but haven't played them enough to make a determination.
In PvP I too, like another poster said, am impressed by hunters who really play their class well. Overall, I'd say the best way to really figure out the answer to "takes the most skill to play in pvp" would be to look at the top arena teams for the different brackets and choose the least represented class, on average, over the many seasons. That's probably the class that requires the most skill in order to really shine (although even that could easily be based more on counter-comp type-stuff, as opposed to individual skill). And keep in mind I hate arenas, haven't touched them since season 2, but I have little doubt that the top arena players are the masters of their class.
The take home message is pretty simple, IMHO. Blizzard has succeeded in making the classes "simple to learn, difficult to master."
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Warrior tanks.
You can't just faceroll to make this work. You have to understand some things.
Also a big nod to druids. Jack of all trades means you have to understand casters, rogues, warriors to play a druid well.
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Where's the "none of the above" option?
I'll say "all of the above" just to be contrary. All classes take some effort to "play well." There is a definite difference between someone who's decent at a class and a player who does the little things and gets the most out of everything a class has to offer.
Now, granted, WoW is not that complicated, no class is that tricky, nothing about the game is truly hard...but at the same time, I'd say the majority of players are not using everything at their disposal or playing to their max potential.
A potentially interesting note - I play on RP servers (jokes that they are) and I'm mostly PvE...but I do PvP and have on most classes, and I'm pretty good at it. My GM is the same as are a few others in our guild.
We (GM and I) find that players with good PvP experience do better in PvE, because they've gone thru the "got my backside handed too me, dug deep, figured out how to use every skill to it's fullest in a more pressure filled situation" thing. IMO, PvPing forces you to learn to play better unless you're ok with getting slaughtered constantly.
We often suggest to some of our raiders, when they're underperforming, to get out and PvP because no amount of theorycraft replaces real experience, and usually getting crushed in PvP inspires people to push themselves harder.
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Voqar posted:
Auenwing posted:
Where's the "none of the above" option?
I'll say "all of the above" just to be contrary. All classes take some effort to "play well." There is a definite difference between someone who's decent at a class and a player who does the little things and gets the most out of everything a class has to offer.
Now, granted, WoW is not that complicated, no class is that tricky, nothing about the game is truly hard...but at the same time, I'd say the majority of players are not using everything at their disposal or playing to their max potential.
A potentially interesting note - I play on RP servers (jokes that they are) and I'm mostly PvE...but I do PvP and have on most classes, and I'm pretty good at it. My GM is the same as are a few others in our guild.
We (GM and I) find that players with good PvP experience do better in PvE, because they've gone thru the "got my backside handed too me, dug deep, figured out how to use every skill to it's fullest in a more pressure filled situation" thing. IMO, PvPing forces you to learn to play better unless you're ok with getting slaughtered constantly.
We often suggest to some of our raiders, when they're underperforming, to get out and PvP because no amount of theorycraft replaces real experience, and usually getting crushed in PvP inspires people to push themselves harder.
I hear the comment about PvP and mostly agree. Blizz PvE is so scripted, that they hand you a toolbox of abilities, and you're usually only using a subset of them for any given PvE encounter... especially if you're doing instances.
Part of what I miss about some other (old school) MMO's is that the encounters can be done differently, allowing you to be creative with classes.
And yes, with PvP, because you're up against often (not always) unpredictable situations, you have to think on your feet, and have the ability to take advantage of some of those little used tools in the toolbox. (Ah, the joy of pulling off a crazy stunt that works!)
I will argue however, just like PvE, there are PvP players who use a subset of tools in PvP over and over the same way PvE players do. And are mildly to fairly successful (especially up against other PvP players who are like-minded, or BECAUSE they are up against predictable-move players.) (You see the same thing happen in chess tournaments.)
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Warrior in pvp
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On a completely no related subject, if you rearrange all the letters in tiepohs, you get His Poet.
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Auenwing posted:
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It tells me that this is a very cynical board, myself included. However, even though the game is very easy over all, there are still some classes that are more challenging then others.
Cynicism aside, the problem is "more challenging" is relative, not absolute. Classes my daughter can play in her sleep, my husband will never come close to mastering. A spec that's obvious and easy for me, is a struggle for my daughter. It's inherent in our different thought processing, (as well as kinesthetic ability, etcetera.) I can argue that some classes require more thought, some more twitch response, or more rigid adherence to a pattern... these are all different intelligences. Which is why I usually advise folks to pick a class that "best fits" them and their way of thinking. So what is hard for one may be easy for another and vice versa.
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Didn't read the thread. If we're talking pve-not sure. Probably the class with the most dynamic rotation. If pvp- disc priest. On a side note people who pick druids are idiots. Additively yes if we added up every spec a class could play druid would win; but that is a silly way to artificially inflate a player's perceived ability. Classes should be measured in a single spec environment until the day Blizzard allows us to change specs mid-combat.
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If warriors are so hard to play, why did they get nerfs to both damage AND threat?
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In PvE you can do some simple comparisons to see which classes are "harder" to play than others.
Run a damage meter. Look at the abilities used to create that classes' damage.
If any single source of that damage is above 35-40% and they are topping the meter by a significant margin, that's the first clue that the class is simple to play.
If any single source of that damage is above 50% and they are topping the meter by a significant margin, the class is a joke.
If any single source of that damage is above 75% and they are topping the meter by a significant margin, lol!
For example: right now, arcane mages are running with single target DPS numbers comprised of upwards of 85% (often upwards of 95%) from Arcane Blast alone.
Marksman Hunters for example require auto shot, arcane shot, steady shot, chimera shot, aimed shot, serpent sting, pet, piercing shots, trap damage, to come in at around 75% of a similarly geared arcane mage's DPS on a single target.
So I guess really it'd be tough to decide which class requires the most skill to play, but it's pretty damn easy to see which ones take the least lol.
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Ugh_Lancelot posted:
If warriors are so hard to play, why did they get nerfs to both damage AND threat?
That's a good question. (I believe that most of the people voting warrior were talking about warrior tanking.)
That said, with huge vigilance that you'd see as a raid tank (but never in 5-mans), warriors were seeing absurd Heroic Strike and Cleave damage as tanks.
My guess is that the Devs forgot about the fact that a soloing warrior isn't going to see huge vigilance numbers, nor will they see them in 5-mans. The reductions to threat were kind of stupefyingly poorly timed though.
In 5-mans, scrub DPS warriors with 4.5k gear scores are able to pull upwards of 7k DPS by cleaving - sort of like how scrub geared DKs are able to do the same thing with Howling Blast (which didn't get nerfed).
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Hi Mags,
This is Donairse. I haven't played for about 6 months or more, but I got a ton of emails from Blizzard earlier this week indicating my account was hacked. They didn't give any information on what specifically happened, but by the looks of the armory I was respecced to holy and gained a few levels. I just wanted to say that whatever happened, I really hope it didn't cause the guild any problems. It looks like the guild website doesn't exist anymore and I don't have any other contact info for anyone. IGN says I don't have enough posts on here to send you a private message, so hopefully this message will reach you anyway. You all have been a great group to play with and make me look forward to getting back to having some time for WoW. I've been studying to be a math teacher for the past year and I start student teaching on Monday, so I haven't had nearly the amount of free time I used to. Maybe once summer comes I'll finally have a chance to check out all the changes of Cataclysm. Meanwhile, happy questing!
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Warrior tanks.
You can't just faceroll to make this work. You have to understand some things.
Also a big nod to druids. Jack of all trades means you have to understand casters, rogues, warriors to play a druid well.
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I agree that having a good tank/bad tank in a raid/instance definitely has more impact on the group's ability to succeed. For that, I would consider tank roles more critical to the success of the group than other roles and classes. That isn't what the OP is asking for though... not which class requires the most skill to successfully run instances, but which classes require the most skill to reach their respective potentials.
I would have to say warlocks. They have so many things going on that you don't realize, and so many people that play them never fully realize their potential because of this.
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LOL at trying to apply PvP as a qualifier, its a MMORPG, this is like arguing who is the smartest person on the short bus.
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Zero_Washu posted:
LOL at trying to apply PvP as a qualifier, its a MMORPG, this is like arguing who is the smartest person on the short bus.
How does PvP not apply when it comes to skill?
You find scripted encounters to take more skill than encounters where anything can happen randomly?
PvE - I'd say most classes in general are pretty easy are roughly the same skill level when you know a fight in PvE, though I think tanks may take the most 'skill' to use properly.
PvP - The Cataclysm Hunters.........but I'm biased. 
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