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http://videogames.yahoo.com/events/plugged-in/how-playing-madden-online-could-cost-you-10/1398633
I love this idea. I will admit I am not a used game dealer, nor do I usually purchase used games, but to me this idea makes perfect sense. For too long now has Gamestop capitalized on other companies work without compensation. They sale a few games orginally compensate the maker and they proceed to sale recycled games over and over again at a pure profit to themselves. It is about time that a gaming company steps up to the plate and says, "I dont think so". These game production studios deserve their just compensation and it is ovbious Gamestop does not care enough about their customers to do the right thing and give these companies their fair cut.
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The irony here is that the 'used' games will be 5 bucks cheaper, followed that up with the extra ten to play online with a non new game, and it suddenly becomes more expensive. As long as my new copy of NCAA will let me access the online stuff for free, I honestly don't care how much they charge the people buying used copies.
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i wont buy from Gamestop, just because of this...they really dont offer anything that a local Wal-Mart or other store offers. and the fact that they charge $5 less for a used title game is just sickening.
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Agreed, and the people who are going nuts in the comment section of that story really need to actually read it first or wake the <expletive deleted> up.
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This is why I like this board. I have posted on other boards about this and got spammed for supporting a clearly greedy and corrupted company. The intelligence of the people on this board is amazing (excluding liquid because he is a Colts fan so clearly he does not fall into that statement  ). I completely agree with the above statements, Gamestop buys these new games back for 25-30 dollars (store credit, which probally only cost them 10-15 dollars) and then resales them for 55 dollars. They are making high dollar profits without having to endure any of the cost for designing the games. It is absurd how much they profit off of the gaming companies work.
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too many fanboys on other forums sites...this is where the trusted opinion lies!
Colts = Intelligence
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Basically it comes down to the fact that people today think that they should be able to get things for free. Its like movies, music, computer programs, video games are not developed and marketed by someone. Companies like EA are making it harder and harder to use pirated software (in this case used games) because they are losing money over it. Will they go bankrupt? No. But just because they are a large corporation that does not make it morally right to steal their product because you do not think it is worth the price they charge.
If this is a bad decision then some other company will jump into the void and take EA's customers. The problem is, no other company is going to want to jump into this and give away all the extra profits any more than EA does. In the end those complaining or boycotting EA wont amount to anything since they are most likely the ones that EA gets no revenue from in the first place. Does EA really care if someone who doesn't pay them for their games stop 'buying' their products?
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I never have liked the resale business, so I am excited to hear that EA is doing this. Two of my roomates are big gamers and they are ticked off about this, they feel that this is just the gaming industry being greedy and trying to screw the gamers. They are sure that this will backfire on EA and the gaming community will refuse to buy from them, but I am not so sure. I can agree with Juzam that the only ones who will boycott this are the ones who were buying the game used, and they were not giving any of their money to EA anyways so EA really will not lose anything. It might cause some people who were "casual" Madden/NCAA Football players to not buy the newest edition new, but in the end the hardcore fans do not care because we buy the game on opening night brand new, and online play is included for free in that case.
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This is why I like this board. I have posted on other boards about this and got spammed for supporting a clearly greedy and corrupted company. The intelligence of the people on this board is amazing (excluding liquid because he is a Colts fan so clearly he does not fall into that statement ). I completely agree with the above statements, Gamestop buys these new games back for 25-30 dollars (store credit, which probally only cost them 10-15 dollars) and then resales them for 55 dollars. They are making high dollar profits without having to endure any of the cost for designing the games. It is absurd how much they profit off of the gaming companies work.
I'd have to say that the posters ability to be objective on here is due more to age than just about anything else. As most of the more frequent posters tend to have actual jobs and families, while the other boards are swamped with the mindless mid-late teen hordes that all seem to spew the same vitriol on demand.
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That is very true, but to add to that, I think the age variation on this board makes it so special. Common viewpoints can change from generation to generation, and this board would appear to be made up of people from many different generations; which can help those of us with an open mind see things from a different generations view point. The problem with many gaming message boards is that they are predominately owned by the younger generations who have a very different view point from older generations and usually reality. They talk to people who share only their own flawed opinions and because those people agree tend to take that as a fact. The disagreements that happen on this board is what makes it so special, because it allows for that generation gap to be bridge, but only because we can approach it with the right mind set.
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^^^
wow, Amendial im impressed that has to be one the smartest, well thought out posts that you have had in some time...and i completely agree with you. /faint!
i guess i fall into the type that has a family/job 38yr old steelworker that is a Colts fan!
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I am 23 and single with no kids, so I fit into the other side of that generation gap, which is why I brought up the point that this board is not great because everyone is grown with families. This board operates because we have established this as a place of higher intellect, and all of the regular posters respect that. This board works because we understand that everyone has an opinion and that just because their opinion differs from our own it does not make them wrong. This is also why when someone comes on to here and tries to disrupt that understanding they are usually driven off pretty quickly.
EDIT: Are you sure you are feeling alright there Liquid? You sure have been agreeing with me alot lately, it kind of has me worried, lol.
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I think I'm gonna cry..
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well..football season is still a bit off yet, so im sure its going to be game on again soon!
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I doubt it, once football season starts you will be too depressed to show your face on here. We both know the Jaguars are going to win the division this year.
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I doubt it, once football season starts you will be too depressed to show your face on here. We both know the Jaguars are going to win the division this year.
we could always put that to a bet? say change logo's for 3 months if they do...ill put anything you want, and you will have to put a Manning under your name?
now that sounds like a one hell of a bet!
so what do you say kitty, kitty....
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That sounds like a horrible bet. The Jaguars have the worst odds in our division toward winning anything significant this season; they will be predicted to finish last in the divison in almost every preseason prediction. I know where my team stands and it currently stands in the middle of a rebuilding process which will take another season or two. But this is the off-season, hope springs eternal, so until they are mathematically eliminated I will believe they can win the division. It's not a belief I am willing to bet on though, that would be a crazy move.
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In that case I shall declare that my Browns shall go undefeated and win the Super Bowl. 
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In that case I shall declare that my Browns shall go undefeated and win the Super Bowl.
you must be taking the meds that Amendial takes daily. 
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For the Browns hope never springs even a drop. You should know better than to hope as a fan of any team in Cleveland.
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For the Browns hope never springs even a drop. You should know better than to hope as a fan of any team in Cleveland.
That's the problem though, it's a Cleveland thing. It must be something about the lake that we always end up hearing some sort of playoff or championship rumor before every season. Honestly I think this season's ceiling is a .500 record.
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what up
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Hmm....must be another Cleveland fan...
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looks like Amendial is making alts for the board...shame on you Amendial! 
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The irony here is that the 'used' games will be 5 bucks cheaper, followed that up with the extra ten to play online with a non new game, and it suddenly becomes more expensive. As long as my new copy of NCAA will let me access the online stuff for free, I honestly don't care how much they charge the people buying used copies.
I never buy sports games used so it doesn't bother me either. Just don't make me pay for isht that should be free.
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I know right, speaking of that, I actually do have a second account on here from 3 or 4 years ago, but I have no clue what the password might be to that account.
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Edit: I need to wake up before I start posting stuff right now.
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