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Topic: Kurt Warner HoF?

fearthisjuggalo Posts: 2,221 Registered: Jun 11, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 2,190 User ID: 687,419	Subject: Kurt Warner HoF?
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Ynisfre Posts: 3,483 Registered: May 28, '09 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 3,483 User ID: 1,358,630	Subject: Kurt Warner HoF?
	The argument against is that he really only had 5 or 6 good years. He has what I would consider the bare minimum in terms of statistical milestones for a current QB to acheive entry. Aikman was sort of a special case because the understanding was that he could have put up better numbers in a different system, but he led a team to three Super Bowl wins, so it was kind of a no brainer. I think the fact that Warner has two MVPs, a Super Bowl win, 3 appearances, and a top five all time QB rating PLUS the great story of a guy who used to bag groceries getting a shot in his late 20's and succeeding adds up to a Hall of Famer. If you're missing any of those things probably he doesn't get in. edit- I think an even more interesting case in Donovan McNabb. Right now he has close to Warner's numbers. His completion percentage and yards per attempt are significantly lower than Warner's, but his TD to INT ratio is better and he has all those years of being a good rusher as well as a passer. He has been to multiple conference championships and a Super Bowl, and he probably has a few good years left. But short of winning a championship I think he needs another 10-15k yards and 80-100 touchdowns to be considered a Hall of Famer. It'd be interesting if he ends up going to replace Warner... I think that'd be a good fit. -----signature----- (none)
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Slaval Posts: 12,462 Registered: Jul 18, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 12,123 User ID: 698,439	Subject: Kurt Warner HoF?
	Since the HoF is voted on by reporters and members of the media I say without a doubt Warner is in. He is well liked by reporters/media and his numbers justify him getting votes so I can't see them not putting him in. Getting on the wrong side of the media can prove to be detrimental and all one has to do is look at the case of Art Monk who was inducted until his 8th time (or something like that) of eligibility. Ynisfre posted: edit- I think an even more interesting case in Donovan McNabb. Right now he has close to Warner's numbers. His completion percentage and yards per attempt are significantly lower than Warner's, but his TD to INT ratio is better and he has all those years of being a good rusher as well as a passer. He has been to multiple conference championships and a Super Bowl, and he probably has a few good years left. But short of winning a championship I think he needs another 10-15k yards and 80-100 touchdowns to be considered a Hall of Famer. It'd be interesting if he ends up going to replace Warner... I think that'd be a good fit. I live right outside of Philly and prior to Vick newest problem of possible steroid use it was thought by most of the local media that McNabb would go to either AZ (if Warner retired) or SF or maybe Buffalo. And they would let Kolb start with the safety net of Vick as the backup. I doubt that will happen now but we will see. As for McNabb himself without a ring I doubt he gets in. -----signature----- Drahnis - Undead Warlock Sherion - Undead Mage Slaval - Troll Rogue A few others.... to many to list. Leader of Total Karnage (WoW) http://www.totalkarnage.com
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