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Subject: New Server.
I'd like to post this on the Asheron's Call Forums. If someone can do this then much appreciated.


    This is what many people want. A new Darktide. Where many people from white servers can come and start in a new world with fresh blood.

    There are so many people, I guarantee it, that have had a thought about joining Darktide but the people on DT are too high of a level for them to

    even feel motivated enough to start there. All of these level 275 reds rolling around, of course there is going to be that one guy or guild that

    will make it hard for them. I know it is a mood killer for all those people, I guarantee hundreds of people want to play in an all PK environment,

    but there is a major struggle for all of those people who are interested in PK. I know that there are pros and cons but you never know until you try.

    People below me on this post can flame the board all they want, but they wouldn't be the truth of the matter. People are INTERESTED in a new PK server.

    I know you might be worried about losing people from other servers. But what you must understand is that AC is going on a downward slope. This could

    actually be the spark that AC needed. Can you imagine what this can do for the profit of this game? The fun and enjoyment that people will get out of this?

    One friend calling another friend to tell them, "Hey! A new PK server! Dude this is what we have been waiting for, resubscribe your account fast!"

    So many people will rush to it. I remember when I played DT maybe a year after the game came out. My friend and I were level 20's fighting level 50's and

    just having fun fighting REAL people. Not these monsters the entire time. People need a new and exciting environment. I can absolutely guarantee you

    that people will resubscribe there accounts and jump on that fast. Do you see the fun fighting against other people who control their characters compared

    to fighting just monsters that are automatic? Not ran or seen through the eyes of another human being? This is YOUR chance to find out. All I am asking is

    for at least two weeks for a trial server. See how it goes and if you find out it was a waste of time then cut it off. Just know that this is a big opportunity

    to start bringing people back. I'm not saying that I am a PK fanatic. I like going on the white servers too from time to time. Most of all I love managing my own life.

    Not just playing a video game for hours and hours. I am trying to say that this is a wonderful opportunity for you to expand on your players. See how many people roll in.

    Please consider.


    Thanks.

    Louie

 

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Ac is dead bro...

 

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Subject: New Server.
With 275's its stupid to play DT. Levers should have never been taken out. Turbine ALWAYS screws things up. They accidentally made a good game and they have been working on fixing it ever since.

 

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It is a good idea, but not very cost effective because of the server space. I mean the servers that AC requires isn't much, but yet at the same time it is extra money that Turbine really isn't making out of this game. So for them to be able to set up a completely new server just for PKing and cross their fingers to bring some joy to the existing members may be a bit far fetched. I'll follow through with you on it, but only because I want to see some new potential people, and to contact some of my older buddies to come back to our home.

 

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Subject: New Server.
At this stage in AC's life cycle, you will see in PK what happened in whitespace when the last new server opened. People left established guilds which foundered on their respective servers and vacuums were created. The new server never was able to establish a population significant enough to make it enjoyable to play once people began to hit their target goals.

What people really want on DT is a way to level to 275 and get good stuff without being destroyed by the people that are already at that level.

THEN they want to be back in a populace of people who are equal to or less than them in level/gear/acquisitions.

This situation of a new server would only be useful as a leveling server if you could bring your character over to DT at the completion of leveling. Otherwise, once you hit 275 on a PK server, who would you fight? Not enough PK people to fully populate a PK server to make it reasonable for the goal of PK which is to Kill Other Players!

 

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People like Player Killer who say, AC is Dead, and flame on every post just for giggles is a major reason why this game is going on a downward slope. Add up enough Flamers and you can burn a great idea to the ground. Do something useful please a flame on the threads that nerf good dungeons, not good ideas. Thanks.

 

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Subject: New Server.
Bou_Te posted:
At this stage in AC's life cycle, you will see in PK what happened in whitespace when the last new server opened. People left established guilds which foundered on their respective servers and vacuums were created. The new server never was able to establish a population significant enough to make it enjoyable to play once people began to hit their target goals.

What people really want on DT is a way to level to 275 and get good stuff without being destroyed by the people that are already at that level.

THEN they want to be back in a populace of people who are equal to or less than them in level/gear/acquisitions.

This situation of a new server would only be useful as a leveling server if you could bring your character over to DT at the completion of leveling. Otherwise, once you hit 275 on a PK server, who would you fight? Not enough PK people to fully populate a PK server to make it reasonable for the goal of PK which is to Kill Other Players!


Yes, but Verdantine is a white server. A new PK Server will only make things more challenging for players.

When you say that people really want a way to level to 275 with great armor and weapons and a full hearty set or w/e without being killed is like me irl wanting to be what I have always dreamed, the best soccer player in the world who floats on clouds and shoots at goals that are made out of heaven's gates. It is impossible. People who love to do that, but it will never happen.

And you can't look at it that much into the future without following the progress first. You are talking about babble! What I am trying to bring to the table, to get the people who have control of these servers to give this a real shot. For a week or 2 days even. Just to see how much people take a liking to it. I'd like to speak to someone who knows a little more about what goes on inside.

 

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creating another server only splits the population off more, further decreasing the playerbase, this is a bad bad idea.

 

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I still think they should merge.

 

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Subject: New Server.
immortalbob posted:
creating another server only splits the population off more, further decreasing the playerbase, this is a bad bad idea.


Yes, I agree that it splits the population more, but it isn't a bad idea. Think about total population increase. Server population will definately shift. But the people who come back to the game that aren't in the population as of right now will definately be THRILLED. Many many people have been wanting new pk servers. But replys like yours has only kept them shut, and there are way more people who choose not to have a say on these boards, or to have their voice heard on the matter than there are people who choose to strike this idea down just like that. All I am trying to do is give this a chance.

 

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merge yes ... abandon houses and mansions.. make names start or end with (td) or (ff) trouble is .. when i went to eo in frostfell theres 3 fellows in every eo . i cant even imagine what it would be like if it merged with all the worlds

 

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Or atleast do voluntary transfers to a white server for free at the cost of your home and a new name?

 

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You woulda got a more of rise if you woulda said server maintence. Keep 2 White DT and new pk only

 

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I can understand why Dil or w/e his name is chooses to flame. He is uneducated and simply doesn't feel the need to read. That is how empires fall people. Read up.

 

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I doubt there is a problem with servers being overpopulated, which is the only real financial reason that they should do this.


Not sure many former players would come back and stay for this......

 

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I am not sure either. But there are steps they can take to make it happen. A simple 2 days of a new PK server being out could show turbine either a turn for better or worse. There has to be a risk involved to make things happen. You gotta risk it to eat the biscuit. If not now, then when. That is what I'd like to know. Is AC going to crumble to the ground with 8 white servers and 1 pk server? Why SO MANY WHITE servers? There has to be a new PK server. Just gotta be.

 

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You are looking over the one major fact that makes this pointless: That it is simply not going to happen.

How do you think this is going to happen?

Why do you continue to spend the precious hours of your life on this matter?

Do you sincerely think that they are going to read this post and say, "Oh, SoulTaker123 made a fine post. Check this out Frelorn! I never thought of it that way man, yeah, let's do this!"

That is the way your psychology is working and it is silly. You can have trouble finding a fight on Darktide during certain hours of the day, what makes you think it is appropriate to open another whole server/world? YOU are just looking at the benefits. YOU can't see why this won't work because you are thinking selfishly.

What about all the people who have a job/wife/kids/mortgage and worked so hard to level up on Darktide? Do you think they will be able to fork out the time to hack it on this new server? Because money won't do them any good, they can't buy an account on the new server.

I just wanted to do your thinking for you on this one. Take care.

 

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SoulTaker123 posted:


    There are so many people, I guarantee it, that have had a thought about joining Darktide but the people on DT are too high of a level for them to

    even feel motivated enough to start there. All of these level 275 reds rolling around, of course there is going to be that one guy or guild that

    will make it hard for them. I know it is a mood killer for all those people, I guarantee hundreds of people want to play in an all PK environment,

    but there is a major struggle for all of those people who are interested in PK.





The only issue I had with starting on DT was never the level.. it was the retarded attitude of 95% of the DT player base. Get rid of the retards though and the DT server is like the white servers and only has 100 people on it at its strongest time. If people are interested in PK they will just go PKL on a white server, then maybe try going red.

 

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Subject: New Server.
SoulTaker123 posted:
Bou_Te posted:
At this stage in AC's life cycle, you will see in PK what happened in whitespace when the last new server opened. People left established guilds which foundered on their respective servers and vacuums were created. The new server never was able to establish a population significant enough to make it enjoyable to play once people began to hit their target goals.

What people really want on DT is a way to level to 275 and get good stuff without being destroyed by the people that are already at that level.

THEN they want to be back in a populace of people who are equal to or less than them in level/gear/acquisitions.

This situation of a new server would only be useful as a leveling server if you could bring your character over to DT at the completion of leveling. Otherwise, once you hit 275 on a PK server, who would you fight? Not enough PK people to fully populate a PK server to make it reasonable for the goal of PK which is to Kill Other Players!


Yes, but Verdantine is a white server. A new PK Server will only make things more challenging for players.

When you say that people really want a way to level to 275 with great armor and weapons and a full hearty set or w/e without being killed is like me irl wanting to be what I have always dreamed, the best soccer player in the world who floats on clouds and shoots at goals that are made out of heaven's gates. It is impossible. People who love to do that, but it will never happen.

And you can't look at it that much into the future without following the progress first. You are talking about babble! What I am trying to bring to the table, to get the people who have control of these servers to give this a real shot. For a week or 2 days even. Just to see how much people take a liking to it. I'd like to speak to someone who knows a little more about what goes on inside.


Yeah Bou_Te, quit talking about babble! Clearly SoulTaker123 knows what he is talking about here...

 

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I like how anyone who has an opinion other than that of ST123's obviously doesn't know anything or doesn't read.

With populations down so low, why on earth would you want to add yet another server to further split things up? The reason I don't play on DT, is not because I am afraid of all the level 275's, it's because I don't like PK. If a new PK server rolled out that put everyone on an equal footing, I still wouldn't go there. Plus, it would take about a week for a few fellows of hardcore macroers to out level the majority of the playing field, and you'd end up with the exact same situation you have on DT now, just on a somewhat smaller scale.

 

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Cryme posted:
I like how anyone who has an opinion other than that of ST123's obviously doesn't know anything or doesn't read.

With populations down so low, why on earth would you want to add yet another server to further split things up? The reason I don't play on DT, is not because I am afraid of all the level 275's, it's because I don't like PK. If a new PK server rolled out that put everyone on an equal footing, I still wouldn't go there. Plus, it would take about a week for a few fellows of hardcore macroers to out level the majority of the playing field, and you'd end up with the exact same situation you have on DT now, just on a somewhat smaller scale.


I'd like to add something, but since Cryme has really said it all, all I'll say is this: Ditto.

Especially the part about "I don't like PK."

 

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It might make more sense to add an attack modifier to DT, say a +/- of 1 level between 5-10, and a +/- of 5 levels, between level 10-200, then everyone is fair game. This would also stop the 'noob' jumping.

Just my 2 cents.

 

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the server merging is a moot point. its been discussed over and over and over again and what people dont understand is that because of the way they built AC to begin with, they'd never be able to merge servers.

 

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--boudos-- posted:
the server merging is a moot point. its been discussed over and over and over again and what people dont understand is that because of the way they built AC to begin with, they'd never be able to merge servers.


Crying shame 'cause that would be a lot of fun

 

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New server?

No way.

 

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Cryme posted:
With populations down so low, why on earth would you want to add yet another server to further split things up? The reason I don't play on DT, is not because I am afraid of all the level 275's, it's because I don't like PK. If a new PK server rolled out that put everyone on an equal footing, I still wouldn't go there. Plus, it would take about a week for a few fellows of hardcore macroers to out level the majority of the playing field, and you'd end up with the exact same situation you have on DT now, just on a somewhat smaller scale.
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a) 2 days or a couple of weeks is simply not enough time to show what the long-term population would be. For two days *I* would play a new PK server! Low level continuous battles would be hysterical! Longer view would see me soon enough being back on my traditional white server and I suspect you'd see the same pattern around the subscriber base.

b) Cryme makes an excellent point about the population levels. Splitting a low population level of existing players between two different servers means you are running twice the equipment for the same number of players and incoming dollars.

I however, stand ready to have my mind changed.

Simply explain how a new additional server and the maintenance associated with it will be justified in terms of
- new players and
- new incoming dollars

 

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MakeMeProud posted:
You are looking over the one major fact that makes this pointless: That it is simply not going to happen.

How do you think this is going to happen?

Why do you continue to spend the precious hours of your life on this matter?

Do you sincerely think that they are going to read this post and say, "Oh, SoulTaker123 made a fine post. Check this out Frelorn! I never thought of it that way man, yeah, let's do this!"

That is the way your psychology is working and it is silly. You can have trouble finding a fight on Darktide during certain hours of the day, what makes you think it is appropriate to open another whole server/world? YOU are just looking at the benefits. YOU can't see why this won't work because you are thinking selfishly.

What about all the people who have a job/wife/kids/mortgage and worked so hard to level up on Darktide? Do you think they will be able to fork out the time to hack it on this new server? Because money won't do them any good, they can't buy an account on the new server.

I just wanted to do your thinking for you on this one. Take care.


Mod Edit: Personal Attack Removed

 

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I thought about this the other day, and this is what i came up with.



Clear verdantine ( sorry VT'ers ) make it a red server while blocking decal.



So it's a true hardcore server.

 

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I've been playing a new toon on DT, just hit level 25. It's really not that bad.

 

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i say shut down 3 of the dead ass white servers use that space to make a new pk server and merge the 3 dead ones with the others theres plenty of room for housing....

 

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bump.

 

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"Yes, I agree that it splits the population more, but it isn't a bad idea. Think about total population increase. Server population will definately shift. But the people who come back to the game that aren't in the population as of right now will definately be THRILLED." - SoulTaker123

VT did not bring people back, the 100th update did not, hell even the last expansion did not hold up for crap even for a few months..

This idea is horrible Mod Edit: Personal Attack Removed

 

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I notice a lot of old people coming back but they mostly fizzle out after a bit and leave. there is nothing to hold them.

 

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Pimpin-Smurf posted:
With 275's its stupid to play DT. Levers should have never been taken out. Turbine ALWAYS screws things up. They accidentally made a good game and they have been working on fixing it ever since.


Just a heads up Turbine did not make AC happy

Just saying happy

 

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Excogitate-Pudendum posted:
Pimpin-Smurf posted:
With 275's its stupid to play DT. Levers should have never been taken out. Turbine ALWAYS screws things up. They accidentally made a good game and they have been working on fixing it ever since.


Just a heads up Turbine did not make AC happy

Just saying happy

Just a head's up: yeah they did.

The IP was originally developed under the auspices of Microsoft, but was entirely developed by Turbine. When it became clear that Microsoft wasn't going to give it the budget that Turbine felt AC deserved, they bought the license in whole from MS and went their own way.

Turbine's name has been on the product as the developer from the very beginning.

Edit: Just saying happy

 

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immortalbob posted:
creating another server only splits the population off more, further decreasing the playerbase, this is a bad bad idea.

 

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I was thinkin... they should shut this game down so people can get on with their lives lol.

 

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No i dont think so. Merge all.

 

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