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Topic: The future of 3D movies...semi-spoiler for Avatar

Urk_VN Title: Orderly Randomizer Posts: 8,320 Registered: Oct 30, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 7,922 User ID: 733,088	Subject: The future of 3D movies...semi-spoiler for Avatar
	Nothing I read or picked up on specifically, but the success of Avatar got me thinking. Due to its smashing success (and say what you want, it's now the #2 highest grossing film in recent movie history), I wonder if studios are going to pick up on the fact that people care about stories and characters, in addition to being taken on a fun ride (aka, cool stuff like explosions), or if they're just going to say "Avatar made so much money because it was all 3D yo!" and demand that movies be done in 3D for the sake of being done in 3D. I can see action movies being done in 3D. But I'm worried that the films may be nothing but car chases and explosions done in 3D for the sake of 3D, kind of like how a lot of movies overdid CGI just because it was cool, and not necessarily to support the story, cough Transformers 2 cough (and yes, I don't expect Transformers to have an awesome storyline, but at least they could've made it more coherent and not filled it with plot holes so large that giant robots could've drove through, like why they used the shard to rez Jetfire instead of Optimus). What's your opinion on the future of 3D movies? They're probably going to be here to stay now for better or worse. I think that as long as the story is good, and it's an overall fun ride, then it'll be okay. But if the story sucks, and the characters are flatter than soda with no CO2 in it, then they're going to hurt 3D as a whole, kind of like how traditional animation movies got screwed over in favor of CG-only animation, at least till the Princess and the Frog. SPOILER Case in point, I'm sure most of you who saw Avatar was pretty pissed off at the humans after they destroyed Hometree. And it was derived from the story. The humans wanted to get rid of the Na'vi there so they could get to the unobtanium sitting under the tree. But the Na'vi wouldn't leave, and Jake himself told them that they wouldn't voluntarily leave. And at first I wondered why the humans attacked the 2nd time, but they do talk about the Na'vi massing up for an attack, and the Colonel mentioning a pre-emptive strike against them, and in the end they get their butts whooped after that world goddess steps in with the animals. Yes, it's a basic storyline, but at least stuff that happens in there makes sense for the most part. Compare that to Transformers 2, another high grossing movie. Yes, it made a lot of money, but it's probably not going to be a movie you remember down the road the same way you would remember Avatar. All I can remember from it was how hot and useless Megan Fox was the whole time. And all I remember from 2012 was Roland Emmerich showing his hatred for people by having the Earth destroy all civilization except for Africa, which more or less has been pwnt to death already by humans. I certainly don't remember any of the characters, or really even having watched it in the first place lol. Go to Youtube and look up "2012 trailer without special effects" to see the awesome acting in it. I already forgot I saw GI Joe too over the summer, but I can still remember Dark Knight and Jurassic Park. Again, they don't have to always have awesome stories or characters, but dang, I want to at least remember the movie. -----signature----- (none)
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-Okami- Title: The Ancient One Posts: 56,061 Registered: Dec 24, '99 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 6,248 User ID: 7,324	Subject: The future of 3D movies...semi-spoiler for Avatar
	I think it was at E3 they announced 3D Television. So ya, there's probably going to be a bigger move towards it. -----signature----- EQ - Okami L`Assundre Faction Queen and Norrath History Buff http://www.erepublik.com/en/referrer/Bayushi+Kachiko Join the eRepublik http://www.magelo.com/eq_view_profile.html?num=96950 Ex-game junkie, now Bible scholar
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Ynisfre Posts: 3,483 Registered: May 28, '09 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 3,483 User ID: 1,358,630	Subject: The future of 3D movies...semi-spoiler for Avatar
	How much Avatar is a success as a result of a successful integration of the technology available with the film, or of just being a movie people really like is probably unclear. Maybe it would have been as popular in 2D, because James Cameron knows how to get butts in seats. On the other hand, since his MO seems to be pushing the tech envelope, maybe it was his ability to get the most out of it that turned it into a phenomenon. It's like asking, would Titanic have been as successful if it didn;t have such an amazing recreation of the ship sinking? Or, would T2 have been as successful without a cool liquid metal guy? I think the studios started pushing 3d technology as a way to improve the theatrical experience, to combat home theaters, and, mostly, to make it more difficult on piracy. I think it's up to the artists to push the process forward. If directors can harness 3D to make more dynamic compositions, to make the audience feel more a part of the action, then it's going to work. However, it's also possible the effect of 3D, even when handled as well as a guy like Cameron can, will just end up being a gimmick. That is to say, fun for awhile, but eventually no more engaging to the audience than a well done 2D movie. We'll have to wait and see. -----signature----- (none)
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Bochica Posts: 699 Registered: Aug 11, '09 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 699 User ID: 1,366,487	Subject: The future of 3D movies...semi-spoiler for Avatar
	I think what I liked most about Avatar's 3D was how it was muted compared to your standard 'jump out at you' 3D flick. Instead of things popping out at you, this moving had more of a depth to it and a vibrancy in the atmosphere (and by that I mean the forest, the plants and the animals). That to me was, I think, the most appealing facet of the entire movie. Sure, there was action and neat cgi characters, but those cgi characters were also characters and not simply a gimick. Some people say this movie is nothing more than Dances With Wolves meets Ferngully, but I could care less. It drew me in and made me feel as though I was a living, breathing part of that world. Now, if future IMAX 3D movies can recapture that for me, then it's something to look forward to. But to make a 3D explosion-fest or thirty minutes of pointless car crashes, then that would be a disappointment. -----signature----- How do you get a girl to sound like a dolphin?! Bend her over, try to stick it in her bum and listen to her go â€œeh eh, eh eh.â€
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Stiger Title: Nerd in Training Posts: 6,506 Registered: Sep 2, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 6,084 User ID: 710,825	Subject: The future of 3D movies...semi-spoiler for Avatar
	Bochica, that's exactly how I felt. Most 3D movies are only in 3D to throw things at the audience and make them jump and dodge. Avatar's 3D was nice and subtle. It just added depth to the movie. -----signature----- http://www.ericgaston.com http://abcps.webs.com/
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Liquid741 Title: VN Sensei Posts: 5,106 Registered: Dec 16, '06 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 5,095 User ID: 1,191,724	Subject: The future of 3D movies...semi-spoiler for Avatar
	Stiger posted: Bochica, that's exactly how I felt. Most 3D movies are only in 3D to throw things at the audience and make them jump and dodge. Avatar's 3D was nice and subtle. It just added depth to the movie. Exactly...i hate 3D movies, and Avatar changed it for the moment. i would go see a lot more of these types if it was done correctly. -----signature----- April 26th..the day the future will be known...NFL draft. I'd rather be kicked in the face then be a Patriots fan!
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Ocura Title: Wiki Wench of the West Posts: 4,448 Registered: Nov 2, '06 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 4,365 User ID: 1,181,036	Subject: The future of 3D movies...semi-spoiler for Avatar
	I got stuck watching Avatar in the very front row this weekend Let me tell you, I was wiping sparks and bugs out of my way an awful lot! I wish I hadn't been stuck up front but 3/4 showtimes were sold out when we bought our tickets, when we went back for the movie our showtime was sold out as well and we were just in time to catch it... which meant no good seats were left. If you have the option don't sit right up front! 3D from that close means a lot of double edges in some spots, sore neck from rolling your head around to see everything, motion sickness (/snickers at her daughter), and lots of pesky alien bugs are really fricken close to your face! I loved the movie itself, very well done to the point I didn't even notice time rolling by (surprising considering the movies length). I'll be honest that because of my seat I wish I hadn't seen it in 3D, it really was blurry and double edge in a lot of sections of the screen for us One I will be buying so I can watch it without having to look 20 feet up to see something other than double shins and chins. -----signature----- (none)
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Urk_VN Title: Orderly Randomizer Posts: 8,320 Registered: Oct 30, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 7,922 User ID: 733,088	Subject: The future of 3D movies...semi-spoiler for Avatar
	Man, from browsing rotten tomatoes, it seems like a lot of studios are jumping onto the 3D bandwagon, most likely just to try and cash in on the success of Avatar. And when said movies inevitably flop, then no doubt they're going to blame the 3D system as a whole, and rather, the fact that the movie sucked and/or it wasn't designed for 3D. I read that George Lucas even wants to turn all of the Star Wars films into 3D. Yeah, it'll be awesome watching Luke pass by the turrets, and then having the Death Star blow up in our faces. But geez, I think people at this point want new Star Wars movies, and there's already a ton of existing material that he could draw from if he's too lazy to write something new himself. -----signature----- (none)
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Ynisfre Posts: 3,483 Registered: May 28, '09 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 3,483 User ID: 1,358,630	Subject: The future of 3D movies...semi-spoiler for Avatar
	Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't know that Avatar's success is doing much except increasing the degree to which studios are fast tracking these 3D projects. It is a technology the the industry has been pushing for a few years now, for all the reasons I mentioned earlier. They probably needed a breakout like Avatar to fully justify the viability of their interest, but Avatar is certainly not starting something. I mean, when they were talking about converting old blockbusters like SW and LOTR into 3D well before Avatar came out, I don't think you can say that it's driving the bandwagon. -----signature----- (none)
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