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Anybody know of a good place to buy MP3's? Most of them allow you to download the song once then your SOL if your HD crashes and you didn't back it up. Anybody know of a place that keeps track of your purchases and lets you redownload whenever? Or perhaps just a smaller lesser known site that is good for buying MP3's. If I have to I can buy them from iTunes but would rather not if can be helped.
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I buy all my stuff on iTunes. For a little extra you can get the DMR free version and I've heard that eventually all the stuff will be that way.
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Any place but iTunes.
iTunes is ruining the way fans hear and listen to music.
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PhantomOfTheMMO posted:
Any place but iTunes.
iTunes is ruining the way fans hear and listen to music.
while i don't disagree with your first statement one bit, could you elaborate on the second. 
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Yeah I wanna hear this.
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i like using Amazon, just remember that if you don't like edited songs, that they will have EXPLICIT after it(if there are two versions) i got hosed once on that.
also Zune is now 85% DRM free, which is cool... although i got hosed there because some of my favorite music is laced with the original DRM and i can't play it on my car radio via a mix cd... the bastards.
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Ah sorry, forgot about this thread....
So I'll give you the short version, developed most likely from working at a recording studio for a decade.
Groups in the past often put a lot into an Album as a thing in itself... from a central theme or style, right down to an ongoing story. This even could go as far as touching on the artwork on the album (where a lot of my work focused).
These days, thanks in large part to iTunes, groups are looking to get a Single out, and album is an afterthought, if a thought at all. In thinking in such a small, narrow field we are losing something.
iTunes is making the "producer made" music syndrome worse because an "artist" (which can be ANYONE now thanks to auto-tune these day) can be anyone that looks good enough to put on a video or to use in promotional material to sell a Single.
We don;t listen to albums anymore, which were themselves a work of art.... now we listen to the hot single. It's much like going from reading Books, to looking for this week's hot Sentence, and I personally think we are losing something very, very important, not only in the way we listen to music, but the way in which we think about and associate with the artists themselves.
Not too long ago, music lovers would hear a single and then anticipate the release of the album. Listeners would then often go on to learn more about the artists in order to for a more personal feeling relationship with them, and this would further spur the anticipation of the next song and album and concert tour.
Now we have a single... period, the end. No one much cares who it's even from, or if it's associated with an album that might contain more music expanding on the theme.
This new trend really pains me, especially as someone that used to work with bands to help bring their theme and messages together into a more cohesive whole, to transport the listener to a new world, a new story, a new idea.
Now... that hardly ever goes on... and it happened so quickly, and it's gaining velocity.
eh... that's enough for a quick rant, but I could go on much further than anyone wants to read.
It isn't iTunes alone, but they are the biggest target.
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PhantomOfTheMMO posted:
Ah sorry, forgot about this thread....
So I'll give you the short version, developed most likely from working at a recording studio for a decade.
Groups in the past often put a lot into an Album as a thing in itself... from a central theme or style, right down to an ongoing story. This even could go as far as touching on the artwork on the album (where a lot of my work focused).
These days, thanks in large part to iTunes, groups are looking to get a Single out, and album is an afterthought, if a thought at all. In thinking in such a small, narrow field we are losing something.
iTunes is making the "producer made" music syndrome worse because an "artist" (which can be ANYONE now thanks to auto-tune these day) can be anyone that looks good enough to put on a video or to use in promotional material to sell a Single.
We don;t listen to albums anymore, which were themselves a work of art.... now we listen to the hot single. It's much like going from reading Books, to looking for this week's hot Sentence, and I personally think we are losing something very, very important, not only in the way we listen to music, but the way in which we think about and associate with the artists themselves.
Not too long ago, music lovers would hear a single and then anticipate the release of the album. Listeners would then often go on to learn more about the artists in order to for a more personal feeling relationship with them, and this would further spur the anticipation of the next song and album and concert tour.
Now we have a single... period, the end. No one much cares who it's even from, or if it's associated with an album that might contain more music expanding on the theme.
This new trend really pains me, especially as someone that used to work with bands to help bring their theme and messages together into a more cohesive whole, to transport the listener to a new world, a new story, a new idea.
Now... that hardly ever goes on... and it happened so quickly, and it's gaining velocity.
eh... that's enough for a quick rant, but I could go on much further than anyone wants to read.
It isn't iTunes alone, but they are the biggest target.
Sorry but there are very few artists that I have listened to where their whole album was worth listening to or even had a "theme". I think you read too much into the whole album thing. I much prefer being able to pick and choose which songs I like and buy them for $1 then buying a $15 cd and only liking/listening to 1-2 songs on it.
The music industry needs to adjust to the listening tastes of their audience, not force the audience to listen to what they are told to listen to. I am glad they are moving this way, perhaps they will actually make better songs overall since each one has to stand on its own and cannot rely on the hit single to hold them up.
EDIT: Amazon doesn't allow you to download songs more than once just like iTunes or any other place I have found.
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You completely missed my points Stony... oh well.
It wasn't ME reading way too much into it either, but the artists I've worked with and been a fan of over the years.
This has Nothing to do with the big evil record companies either, but the artists.
You can "win" this thread if you want, I just don't care enough to continue the debate.
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good points Phantom, i know what you're saying. You got that a LOT with classic rock(esp. groups like Pink Floyd) where the whole album was a journey for your mind to be taken down. I hate to add this category of music after naming Pink, but electronic music was(maybe still is?) the same way, the DJ spun his rhythms in a sync that tied into the following tracks and was a continuous trip too. What genre did you deal with the most?
I also know what Stoney is getting at, having spent tons of my late teens/early 20s money on discs and TRYING to get into the full CD, just to be let down when the artists seemed to have "quit" after making a few truly meaningful tracks.
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The Most? Classical, second was Christian...
neither by personal preference, they were just the jobs that rolled in. The fact that the 2 of us that founded the studio volunteered at a Children's Orchestra had a bit to do with it.
But yes, I get Stony's point, but you nailed it, there were Worlds created that are just overlooked lately.
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you're telling me man. I would love for a modern group to come out with a complete album that has the same feel that Dark Side has for me <3 but that's wishful thinking to the point of stupidity.
Classical! that's pretty cool, don't hear that genre thrown around much 
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I completely agree with Phantom's info.
Artists should reserve the right to insist that the listener hears their music as intended otherwise why bother recording an album at all?
Furthermore, the quality of MP3s available on iTunes is rubbish. For nearly the price of a CD, you can have something that comes nowhere near to CD quality. That might be OK if all you ever intend to do with the download is listen through your MP3 player but if you've a good home stereo just try doing a little comparison between MP3 and CD.
I will never pay for an MP3 download until they improve the quality. I'd rather spend a little more, have the CD forever and rip it myself however and as often as I like.
Apologies for rant - really sorry I couldn't actually answer your question. I guess if you just want MP3s quickly and you aren't fussy (like me) than just go for the cheapest. iTunes is probably as good as any in that respect.
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Emusic.com only sells Mp3 but because there is no DRM the selection is not as big since major lables do not want there songs sold without DRM.
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Bean_counter posted:
Emusic.com only sells Mp3 but because there is no DRM the selection is not as big since major lables do not want there songs sold without DRM.
Ya but they are a monthly subscription site. I have subbed to them for several months and resub every 6 months or so when enough songs show up there that I want.
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