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Ok, so I know Bruce is only 4 months old and I can't expect a baby to sleep through the night at this point, god knows my first one didn't but...he'll only sleep for 2 hours max at a time, more often only an hour before waking up to eat. I am going crazy! I need some advice on how to keep that boy full! I fill him full of cereal and he'll drain me on one side of milk and I still only get 2 hours >.<
We have quiet time at night before bed, I take him into a dark room and nurse him to sleep, although he wakes when I put him in his crib and then falls asleep on his own. If I let him fuss when he wakes, he won't go back to sleep and frankly I don't want to let him CIO yet because I know he's hungry and I still feed on demand. He only naps really 2 times a day. I have tried keeping him awake for longer before bed but if he is tired he will just fall asleep no matter what I do >.<
Any ideas? I am thinking of a food maybe that I can give him before bed that will not digest so fast?
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This sounds familiar. I suggest the baby doesn't want to be fed that often but held and consoled.
My wife eventually went with the Ferber method
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferber_method
which involves CIO. It was that or go nuts and never sleep...
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Thanks P_G.
I am pretty sure he is hungry cause he will only cry til I get him and then he drains me dry on one side and promply goes back to sleep. No cuddling really as he lays on a pillow and I pop the boob in his mouth, I don't even hold his head or anything. I just wish I could keep him asleep longer between night feedings.
I don't think the CIO works cause he is too hungry. When he is full he really has no problem falling asleep on his own in his crib.
On that note, my hubby was eating solid food before he left the hospital as a baby (pablum and bananas).
Maybe it's just in his genes to eat alot and I am screwed LOL.
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I might be off base here but if you are nursing him till he falls asleep at the breast, when he wakes and should be going back to sleep on his own....maybe he's not actually hungry but getting used to the breast as a sleep aid...?
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Thanks Darshawn.
I am not really sure but I don't think so. He can and does fall asleep on his own if he is full. He usually wakes up when I carry him back to bed and will go back to sleep on his own without a fuss. Sometimes some "chatting" lol but no crying.
And since he eats soooooo much >.<...
I just feel bad if I don't feed him when I know he is hungry!
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Another question.....is he gaining weight consistently?
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Always best to check with the child's doctor first to make sure there's no medical reason why this is happening. 
Hard to give advice on issues like this, when every baby is different. 
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He's been gaining about a pound a month since birth. His growth spurts are usually accompanied by more eating throughout the day, since he is pretty consistent with the less than 2 hours at night thing :P
I did mention this to my dr at Bruce's 4 month check-up. He did say the same thing Varece, all babies are different. He suggested alot of the advice that I got online, like making a sleep routine ect, which I have done. And that it would be ok to try filling him on cereal too, but it seems that the easy-to-digest cereal gets digested to quick! My doctor is totally for the feeding-on-demand as well, but I am just getting worn out!
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For me, putting mine on a schedule worked the best. It's tough to get it going every 4 hrs or so, but in the long run, my sanity was saved.
My daughter's girls were like yours, until about 6 months old. Then they both settled into a decent routine.
All night is the fun one.  My daughter was sleeping all night after 2-1/2 weeks!!! My poor bewbies in the morning. Lol! I don't even remember when my son started all night. He liked a water bottle at bedtime and would demand a refill during the night. I know he was already in a regular bed. Maybe 2 or 3?
One thing I never did, was feed the babies in bed with me. I'd always get up and sit in the rocker or couch. I really really didn't want babies sleeping in our bed.  Luckily both did fine in their own rooms from the start.
The time will fly by, honest
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my older daughter did something like that but she wasn't eating enough in the daytime, I think. but she is also a pretty demanding kid who even now still needs a lot of attention.
my little one ate a lot all day long and started sleeping through at six weeks. she is much more laid back than her older sister too.
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Oh, I'm crossing my fingers, for my daughter and son-in-law with their 2.  We're just not used to 2 so close together. My 2 were 5-1/2 years apart and, at least visably, they got along well.  My grandaughters can go at it like cats and dogs. King of the hill rules the house. heh Nicolette wants everyone to share with her, but she doesn't have to share with anyone, mostly Maddy
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Darshawn posted:
I might be off base here but if you are nursing him till he falls asleep at the breast, when he wakes and should be going back to sleep on his own....maybe he's not actually hungry but getting used to the breast as a sleep aid...?
That's what I was getting at.
A lot of good suggestions here. Good luck with it sis.
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All great ideas folks. It is making me pay more attention to exactly how he eats, when he falls asleep while eating, when he turns his head before falling asleep and when he eats and stays awake. Last night I took him off the breast as soon as he stopped chugging and put him back in his crib. He was awake and put himself back to sleep no problem. He was still up every 2 hours to eat though LOL.
He is eating Rice cereal a few times a day now. Are the other grain cereals supposed to take longer to digest? I was thinking that if I gave him some harder to digest cereal before bed instead of rice cereal he might stay fuller longer?
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I'd try some baby applesauce or bananas. Sometimes the cereal goes to quick but the fruits stay a lil longer. I have Wyatt on applesauce, pears and bananas (and whatever grandpa sneaks in - usually sugar free pudding lmao)
As bas as you dont want to, you may want to try a formula bottle before bed - might be a thing of the BM isn't filling him up but formula might  My niece was like that, her mom could BF all day and all night and at 6 months it was still every 2 hours and I mentioned doing the 1 bottle and within a few days she was sleeping thru the night.
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i was in a similar situation with Littleman, i started including snacks between meal time. cereal w/ fruit for breakfast, applesauce snack, veggie lunch, banana snack...veggies and yogurt for dinner. still healthy amounts of BM when ever he wanted...he drank near 1/2 gallon a day on top of the rest
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Well, I don't want to jinx it but he has given me 4-5 hours solid in the middle of his sleep the last two nights. 11-4 the first night and 2-6 last night. I tell you I feel like a new woman!
I have been trying to keep him more full during the day. I have increased his cereal three times a day to 2 tablespoons instead of one. I will give the applesauce before bed a try too. Does anyone think 4 months is too early for veggies? I have also been making sure that he does not ever fall asleep at the boob, thank goodness he is good at putting himself to sleep without too much fuss, as long as he is full.
I have yet to find a formula he will take. With my daughter she would only take Simulac, but Bruce hates em all and will scream his head off if I try to give him a bottle of any formula. I have even tried the expensive formulas in the organics aisle at my grocery store. If its breast milk he will chug it down, whether bottle or breast, so at least I know its not the bottle :P
Thanks for all the suggestions all. I never would have thought he might be using the breast as a sleep aid since he was always so hungry but based on the last few nights it seems he was. I tell ya, with all the diffences from his sister it's like I'm a noob LOL :P
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golly hun, i feel for you.... but really glad he's slept more the last couple of nights!
my son was a very hungry baby, he'd feed for ages and then sleep like a log... by three months old the health visitors were telling me to start solids as he was draining 8 oz bottles of formula every 2 hours - i couldn't keep up with demand on the BF front.
this was 16 years ago, and i know they say summat different now... they recommend not starting solids til 6 months here (i don't know how we'd have survived that!!!) But I had him on veggies fairly quickly after he started cereals and fruit at 3 months. He wolfed everything down.
my daughter was totally different... sounds more like your little one. She was totally BF and refused anything else, even had trouble expressing milk and giving it to her in a bottle. And she fed ever couple of hours, morning, noon and night.
By 6 months i was being told at the health clinic that she was having me on at night, that she didn't need feeding that often over-night, and it was a habit, and she was comfort feeding.
i did have a habit of letting her go to sleep still latched on and i had to break her of that habit.
i started her on solids at 4 months in the vain hope it would help, but she hated them!
sounds like having something more in his tummy is helping Bruce though
she's 13 now and still doesn't eat anywhere near as much as her brother, who's known for loving his food lol and she sleeps in .... which gives me and my hubby great delight when we have to go wake her up hehe
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Oh, I'm crossing my fingers, for my daughter and son-in-law with their 2. We're just not used to 2 so close together. My 2 were 5-1/2 years apart and, at least visably, they got along well. My grandaughters can go at it like cats and dogs. King of the hill rules the house. heh Nicolette wants everyone to share with her, but she doesn't have to share with anyone, mostly Maddy
Fun fun! At least you moms are young!
Lol touche madame, I totally agree with the statement with the close in age part, 11 1/2 months apart here, and fight liek cats and dogs, also the sharing thing, we are going through the sammmmme thing, the joy of closeness lol
But it sure is awesome when they hug and kiss aint it!!
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with Littleman i started cereals at 3 months old. before the month was up he had been introduced to all sorts of veggies like spinach, kale, collards, sweet potatoes, acorn squash, carrots, broccoli/cauliflower mix...just about anything i could get my hands on he would eat.
now with Guinny, i have done exactly the same starting at 3 months as well.
i think its different rule each time you have kids....last time we were supposed to start at 3 months...this time it is 6 months... i likel how we did it with Littleman so that is what we did this time too.
i prefer to make the majority of the baby food, i like it for a few reasons. it makes me feel like i am doing more for my babies, it gets them used to my cooking and not some processed food, and bottom line is that it is much much cheaper!
somewhere along the line i was told that the more you introduce before the age of 1 year the better eater you will have later on down the line. Littleman is almost 3 now and he doesnt refuse to eat many things that i make. He is most apt to not fast food though. that is kinda cool makes me feel good too! dont know if it is true, but so far it is for my family.
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My wife made the baby food too. On a trip we bought some in jars and he refused to eat it quite adamantly. He tolerated the sweet stuff, apples or something like that but wouldn't touch any of the vegetable stuff even though theoretically it was the same things my wife had been feeding him.
It's super easy to do too. Cook veggies, blend, pour into an ice cube tray and freeze. Once frozen you can pop them out and bag them. Just grab a cube or two from the bag when needed.
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LOL off topic is ok cause food ended up being a side effect of this. Bruce now eats "real" food 4 times a day and ALOT of it! Going out today to buy him the next step in cereal and he has already started veggies. I tried the applesauce too but I wanted to get the veggies in there before too much sweet stuff. He's like a little bird too, cries his head off while we are getting it ready and then once he has a bite its open-stuff-swallow-open-stuff-swallow LOL. Looks like he is not going to be a dainty picky eater like his sister.
Kinda cute :P
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My wife made the baby food too. On a trip we bought some in jars and he refused to eat it quite adamantly. He tolerated the sweet stuff, apples or something like that but wouldn't touch any of the vegetable stuff even though theoretically it was the same things my wife had been feeding him.
It's super easy to do too. Cook veggies, blend, pour into an ice cube tray and freeze. Once frozen you can pop them out and bag them. Just grab a cube or two from the bag when needed.
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Heh, I stopped trying to put Matthias's food in ice cube trays, since I'd have to feed him half the tray to fill him up if I went that route.
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LOL off topic is ok cause food ended up being a side effect of this. Bruce now eats "real" food 4 times a day and ALOT of it! Going out today to buy him the next step in cereal and he has already started veggies. I tried the applesauce too but I wanted to get the veggies in there before too much sweet stuff. He's like a little bird too, cries his head off while we are getting it ready and then once he has a bite its open-stuff-swallow-open-stuff-swallow LOL. Looks like he is not going to be a dainty picky eater like his sister.
Kinda cute :P
Remember to not introduce too many new foods at once they need time to adjust to each new thing you give them. I am glad you got this all sorted out. Also as was mentioned above get one of those little food blenders and make your own baby food. way cheaper and I have seen babies who refuse to eat something out of the baby food jars gulp donw the home made verison like it was the best thing on earth.
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Yeah, he actually got a bit of applesauce weeks ago when his big sister decided to "share" so we knew that was ok. We only do one new food every 2-3 days and he's doing ok. Except the one day that I introduced oatmeal in the morning and my hubby didn't know and introduced peas that night. Oh Bruce's pooping the next day was horrible! I am very careful now to go over the daily eating routine with the hubby before he feeds him LOL. Not sure yet about the homemade for this stage cause his big sister hated it. But they are so different I should try for sure.
That man almost gave me a heart attack with Selyna when she was about 9 months old. She walked early (8-9 months) and was almost fully weaned off me around then too. Will decided to be a sweetheart and let me sleep in one morning...I got up around 10am and went downstairs to see what they had been up to. Will goes over most of what they had been doing, playing and stuff, when he casually mentions "Oh yeah, and she really likes peanut butter". ACK! He had shared his breakfast toast with her>.< Thankfully she has no allergies but omg...woke me up better than a coffee IV could have LOL.
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