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It's no secret I've been away from the game for a good while now. I no longer have the free time in my life to properly keep this plugin up to date and running as it deserves.
I would like to pass the plugin on to someone who I feel will hold the same viewpoints and values we have started, but keep it running strong. The webhosting service and domain name, which consists of LifetankXI.Com and everything on it, including the authentication server will still be available as it is for no charge to whomever I feel would be the best candidate. I would rather not move the domain off of my server since I just recently renewed the domain for a year and the server is already paid for.
I have spoke to a few people in the past who I feel would handle this well, and I will be contacting them soon. However, if they have changed their minds or I cannot find anyone to take it up, I will probably just leave the plugin online indefinitely so it is still usable but with no further updates being done to it, except those that would be minor fixes if Decal were to break it. No, at this point I still would not like to release the source to the public as of yet, and criticizing my choice on that matter will earn you no response. I may chance my mind about that, but for the time being, the code will not be passed unless I find someone to properly care for it.
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Yeah I wouldn't release the source anytime soon.
It was a shame that the other dev Spk "hired" released it, a dang shame, because we had some really great features coming out, but, I wasn't going to release that on the public version.
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It's no secret I've been away from the game for a good while now. I no longer have the free time in my life to properly keep this plugin up to date and running as it deserves.
I would like to pass the plugin on to someone who I feel will hold the same viewpoints and values we have started, but keep it running strong. The webhosting service and domain name, which consists of LifetankXI.Com and everything on it, including the authentication server will still be available as it is for no charge to whomever I feel would be the best candidate. I would rather not move the domain off of my server since I just recently renewed the domain for a year and the server is already paid for.
I have spoke to a few people in the past who I feel would handle this well, and I will be contacting them soon. However, if they have changed their minds or I cannot find anyone to take it up, I will probably just leave the plugin online indefinitely so it is still usable but with no further updates being done to it, except those that would be minor fixes if Decal were to break it. No, at this point I still would not like to release the source to the public as of yet, and criticizing my choice on that matter will earn you no response. I may chance my mind about that, but for the time being, the code will not be passed unless I find someone to properly care for it.
Thanks everyone,
C
I can officially say thank you C'relic. You worked hard on this. Congrats! Hate to see you go. I hope if no one takes it up you would release the source to at least the plugin itself. This would give the public the option to make it whatever they wanted as intended by the original developer. I can still say I never had/have your source. So you can be rest assured I was never a threat to your project. I told you guys I was building off the old source. I never completed it. Figured since the public trusted you and not us, you could just do it. I didn't see a need for 2 versions. However I believe that your own morals shouldn't be an effect on what happens with the future. That is just a control thing. If you want control, keep developing it! Otherwise let her go. Can't have your cake and eat it too!  It never works 100% that way. Maybe you got partial control/intentions involved, but you never fully have it. Anyone can turn on you too.
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I can officially say thank you C'relic. You worked hard on this. Congrats! Hate to see you go. I hope if no one takes it up you would release the source to at least the plugin itself. This would give the public the option to make it whatever they wanted as intended by the original developer. I can still say I never had/have your source. So you can be rest assured I was never a threat to your project. I told you guys I was building off the old source. I never completed it. Figured since the public trusted you and not us, you could just do it. I didn't see a need for 2 versions. However I believe that your own morals shouldn't be an effect on what happens with the future. That is just a control thing. If you want control, keep developing it! Otherwise let her go. Can't have your cake and eat it too! It never works 100% that way. Maybe you got partial control/intentions involved, but you never fully have it. Anyone can turn on you too.
I have the original source pre-ToD, and trying to make a re-work for ToD, but it's more just for fun, no point in releasing to the public.
I do think there have been some questionable decisions in the LTxi development (Paraduck), from its original intentions of Spk, but I do understand that times change. However, banning characters on DT from LT because they wouldn't share info about a quest is a huge no no in my book.
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I'll do it.
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-Eps posted:
I'll do it.
No offense, but you know the answer to that.
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sweet you can email me the files as soon as you get a chance
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I think if your gonna give it up... GIVE IT UP.
Don't toy with people and think you have some huge hold over them. It looks like your enjoying it, it shows your true colors.
You might have been right in SOME of your decisions with LTXI... But look at a couple people who want it going back like it was intended to do.
Swordz should release it. I think it would show that your really don't have any control over Lifetank and if your version dies... SO BE IT.
I think that not at least giving up parts of the conversion work is kinda stupid imho. You don't have to give up your features, but the continued code THAT WAS NOT YOUR WORK>>>>> should be released
If it means we go back to Pre-ToD version. Then I guess it means that.
But it's not a loss to anyone really. You just don't go out with the bang and control you intended too!
In the end. It doesn't even matter. The games gonna die anyhow. Why worry about hurting it now?
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G/L with whatever you do Crelic.
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I would never release the original LT source to the public. I was given the code by Spk, and I made a promise to him I would never release that code, and I will uphold my promise, even if he doesn't play, or if the game dies.
The only reason I am trying to get it to work on ToD is because I am extremely bored, and I haven't coded in a while.
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trolling and baiting in this thread is over. thanks.
harassing the dev about what he does w/ his program after he quits is still harassment.
if you have said your goodbyes, then move on please.
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Sorry to see you go C'relic. You are a good developer and advocate for anti-UCM. I'll relaly hate to see you go, but I'll be happy knowing that you won't let LifeTank get in the hands of those who want to abuse it and UCM.
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I can do it.
PM me if interested.
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Ftuoil_XelRasH posted:
I can do it.
PM me if interested.
Although we had our arguments, I did always enjoy FOG, and I do think you are a good dev.
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I'd volunteer...
But it's hard to imagine just HOW negative the response to that would be
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I would like to take over the reigns, as it were, for this project.
I'm pretty Anti-UCM, myself.
Would love to sink my fingers into this code, and see what I can do to help out. I will not, however, actually use LifeTank, except for testing.. and only in the lesser dungeons, where I can take a lower level.
I believe LifeTank is written in VB6. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong on that. I have been programming in VB for the past 10+ years.
I hope you'll consider my application, which I post here, freely, and without anyone using any puppet strings.
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C'relic - I can't program but I so love making fun of the noobs who won't learn how LifeTank works and ask easy questions over and over...
Can I have the title of official mocker on TD?
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thank you for your services.
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I vote for Verrigan 
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"I will probably just leave the plugin online indefinitely so it is still usable but with no further updates being done to it, except those that would be minor fixes if Decal were to break it."
if its not broke don't fix it..
thanks for the work on this, hope to see it stay somewhat the same.
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I will not be taking the position. Sorry C!
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Thanks Crelic! Enjoy wherever life takes you.
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But Itab! I'm begging! Why not?
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Thanks for the time you spent on LTxi. Maybe another plugin that takes less time to maintain will draw your attention. The number of people willing to program plugins for AC grows shorter and shorter everyday.
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hmmm looter does not work now LOL
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kinslayer271 posted:
hmmm looter does not work now LOL
That's a turbine issue though. This is why we need the test server up again, bahhh.
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edit: trolling/harassment
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am I wrong or was there a time when the LT source was online and made public?? I seem to remember that happening a long time ago... so the "keep it phree" side of me says just freakin let it go and release the source... since it's not like anyone can't use it as it is... and the other side of me says "with all the hard work you've put in, why let it be manipulated"
In either case... I wish you well, and hope a suitable taker comes along to continue the project...
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i found the source... conveniently the whole CORE folder can't be opened =X
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I'll do it.
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I'll do it!
Oh, wait, then I'd have to re-sub... hmm, anything good happen in the last 2 years?
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hmmm looter does not work now LOL
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wha'cha talkin about Willis?
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I think the looting is fine.
The hot fix, for the hot hix, for the October Patch did not resolve the corpse issues 100%
My guess is this will not be fixed till next month by Turbine.
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So who is going to be the new dev/s ?
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a right wing gamer
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So who is going to be the new dev/s ?
Envoys are.
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I'm tempted to get back into AC... and if I do, I will start to develop LTx again.
Maybe I'll try out the 14 day trial and see whats new 
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for the love of gawd please
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kinslayer271 posted:
a right wing gamer
Maybe *wink*
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It would be really cool if the current devs of LT would hand the project over to a person(s) with similar viewpoints of the creator. Some of those viewpoints(as well as the source code for LT2, i believe) can be seen on his webpage - http://www.fatalfrog.com/index.php?page=15
If this were to happen, i would love to get back into AC if only to help with testing an improved project. Unfortunatly, if the project gets handed over to a person(s) with ideas similar to the current guys, this wont interest me 
Here's to hoping!
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This thread has run it's course, and I believe I've found someone who could do this plugin more justice than myself.
I will be making an announcement later.
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