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Subject: Decal Development for a person who knows nothing about AC or Decal?
Where/what is a good resource on how to get started with Decal for an experienced game programmer who's never played AC?

What are the basics of developing plugins for Decal? What languages can be used? Is there anything out there that makes developing easier or faster, especially on the UI side of things? Or any tips/tricks/hints that posters here have?

I visited the official website, but the most useful pages state they need to be updated to be correct for Decal 3.

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Subject: Decal Development for a person who knows nothing about AC or Decal?
A knowledge of how the game works helps, but check out http://www.decaldev.com and the forums tongue

 

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What is your programming expereince first off. A Decal plugin should not be yur first attempt at programming.

 

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Subject: Decal Development for a person who knows nothing about AC or Decal?
-A Decal plugin should not be yur first attempt at programming.

why not? , my first program was a decal app , sure it didnt do much but it did what i needed to.

with the guides out , there is nothing to prevent people trying it out , as long as one dont exept any help on the way from the "public" devs.

 

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Subject: Decal Development for a person who knows nothing about AC or Decal?
Maddy_ACEDL posted:
What is your programming expereince first off. A Decal plugin should not be yur first attempt at programming.

My boyfriend is a game programmer by profession, and wants to write a few plugins for me. He's been programming games and game tools for 15 years. I know for sure that he knows C/C++ and C#, at least. He does expect a learning curve though.

He has played WoW but no other MMOs and has only seen me play AC, all of his AC knowledge is going to come from me, and from his own testing of what he writes.

 

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Just out of curiosity, what kind of plugins is he planning on writing? I recall a whileback, you mentioned on LC that a plugin that tells you if any if your equipment's inactive would be useful, and I was working on one at the time. I released Squire a while back, which does this.

I've got a couple of other plugins in the works at the moment, and I'm sure I'm not the only one. It's entirely possible that what you're looking for is already out there, or will be soon.

 

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oh, great news, I'll definitely look into your plugin happy

What I am most interested in is a house alarm style plugin, but I asked for that a while back and no one knew of any public one.

 

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<< why not? , my first program was a decal app , sure it didnt do much but it did what i needed to. >>

Because it is better to learn how to use the language correctly first, then worry about programming for Decal second.

 

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<< My boyfriend is a game programmer by profession, and wants to write a few plugins for me. He's been programming games and game tools for 15 years. I know for sure that he knows C/C++ and C#, at least. He does expect a learning curve though. >>

Head to the Decal forums: http://forums.acdev.org/phpBB2/index.php

and look at doing something in C# would be my suggestion to him.

 

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-Because it is better to learn how to use the language correctly first

well i did it for fun not to learn a language, if you have to know everything before doing something you get nowhere., and no i still dont know how to code

 

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<< well i did it for fun not to learn a language, if you have to know everything before doing something you get nowhere >>

Knowing how to code properly doesn't mean you know everything about coding. Knowing how to code properly helps prevent you from doing stupid things. I've been coding for some years now and I still learn new things.

 

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There's a very good reason we say that Decal should NOT be a first project....

mainly because people who are new to programming think that decal should be "easy" and most of the time it isn't. We (as Decal Devs) do not want to answer "n00b" questions. Things people with programming experience should already know. We also don't want to spoon feed people answers or code. Decal takes work. Programming and learning proper technique takes work. If you aren't willing to research questions for answers on your own, and put in the dedication and time, what makes you think we want to assist? We had to go through the same problems as everyone else new to programming. I myself have been programming for over a decade and I'm still learning new things all the time. I'm nowhere near the "master" of programming, but I know how to program respecfully and properly.

These are things that take passion and dedication. If you have those things, then you should learn to program first, THEN attempt to program for Decal... not use Decal as a starter project and the Decal Devs as tutors. It's easier now than it used to be, but it's still not simple.

Before, the hurdle was that it took a LOT of effort to do anything. .NET and the Adapter have changed a lot of that.. sometimes for the better, but in some ways for worse.

 

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I know one of my boyfriend's greatest fears is that he will stop learning. He can code, I promise!

And apparently my title is at least a little misleading tongue I'll probably repost this on the Decal forums.

 

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The only thing that I am going to add to this thread is that I feel sorry for her poor boyfriend. After he writes the plugin she will probably dump him or date him once a month when she needs an update. grin

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