Let it be known:

Forum posts made on that site do not reflect onto these boards.

I have NO links to Lifetank Xr plugin as of yet. (I am respecting the Vnboards/Ign.Com's wishes to not post any links to the software yet.)

I am asking anyone who posts from this point forward to only discuss the release of the website (http://www.lifetankxr.com and not the logistics of if UCM is correct or incorrect, if the plugin created is correct or incorrect... etc...

Akilla.Net posted:

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quote: "It's not phpnuke, it's e107." (stupid free vnboards disabling the quote tag)

I lost track of the million different cookie-cutter site-molds years ago. I just call them all PHPnuke now, it's easier. They all suck, so it doesn't particularly matter.

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MT_Gouru posted:

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Bashing peoples WORK is not allowed? Since when?

From the ToS:
Hate posts and personal attacks will not be tolerated on the VN Boards. Treat others on these message boards as you would expect them to treat you. Talking trash about another user is a quick way to earn a banning, as is posting topics specifically to provoke a negative response from someone (aka trolling).


If bashing peoplse work was disallowed, all those people that bash It! plugins all the time would be long gone.

Sorry, you can say just about whatever you want about some product (assuming you use reasonable language). It's when you take it personal and start bashing the person that the mods get involved.

So, it's perfectly okay to complain about a sites horrible choice of colors, the total lack of any artistic sense in the design, the unreadability, the pure amateurishness of it, the lack of anything more meaningful than what would appear to be desperate bid for attention; all of that is allowed, as there is no personal attack on anyone. And it does not matter if whether what I say is true or not, it is still allowed.

But if I were to instead bash the creators of that site for having zero ethics, the morals of a pig and the verbal skills to match, that would be disallowed, no matter how true it was.

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Kestrina posted:

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Managers Decision has come down regarding the admin detection discussion.

I am going to quote directly from -Mithan-:

The Vault Network supports the Turbine Code of Conduct and "Admin Notification" is currently NOT against the Turbine COC. If Turbine changes the COC for AC1, we will support them on that and not allow Admin Notification programs. Hopefully in the future the Decal Developers or Turbine itself will find a way of simply disabling this feature for ALL Plugins and it will no longer really be an issue. However, people should not view this as us allowing UCM Discussion on our boards either. Unattended Combat Macroing continues to be against the rules of Turbine and thus the VNBoards and we will vigorously continue to enforce that, as we have in the past.

I wish to also remind people that personal attacks are against the rules of our forum, so when debating this issue, refrain from calling people names or you may be banned from the forum for doing so.

So - posting the specifics of the plug-in is now OK, and i thank you for waiting while we reached this decision!

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Krackcode posted:

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Bravo .

Good luck to you and your team Lil-Blub.

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I am not going to make this a ticket to tell everyone that UCM is ok to do. It's NOT!

I also will state however that Admin detection HAS NOT been removed from their own plug-in LifeTank XI. It was infact only disabled via authentication.

There is about 3-4 methods of authentication from what the Lifetank XR team has obtained. It says whether or not your an LTXI Admin and allows or dis-allows the Admin Detection of the plug-in to be revealed/enabled. No bashing or flaming, just a fact I have obtained from the team.

As it is a STRONG concern on the Integrity of Paraduck and the Lifetank XI team.

--Replex-- posted:

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Let us clear something up <3, You got my emails right? right, good lets move on. They are still valid.

What you are seeing by having your lackies view our source code is our attempt to clean up the Lifetank XI UI (as will be evident with out C# Port). A Detection view is also in the works. The UI will be easier to manage and more thought out, and guess what? Plugin efficiency, and memory handling will improve, Something you wouldn't even be able to comprehend.

This change was initally drawn up a week or so after the last release, and then subsequently disabled via authorization as it was the simplest way to remove admin detection with the mess of classes that were in that release. Rest assured, admin detection is disabled in Lifetank XI.

Your attempts at creating flame wars are pitiful. You view our source with blatant disregard for any itelectual property, which means: any modifications we have made. Whats worse Aaron, you stole this by prowling around on our web server. You really are useless. Tell your lackies to attempt to authorize with the code they have PLEASE, I would love to see who else is using it when they provide a false encryption schema to the server and are flagged in my log. That is, if you guys can even make it work considering what you are missing.

Good day.

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--Replex-- posted:

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I removed your first name after considering your kind request for privacy, it will be honered, atleast on this board.

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--Replex-- posted:

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I removed your first name after considering your kind request for privacy, it will be honered, atleast on this board.

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--Replex-- posted:

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Yeah I was refering to this board as in VN, I have no reason to follow that guideline on our own LTxi forums especially after he prowled through that server and stole the source.

I will ignore his thread now though Yula, don't worry.

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Crelic_MT posted:

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Well, since it's out in the open.

Yes, I know full and well what you downloaded. How else would I know what IP to firewall from my server, a random good guess from an ISP in Arizona? At this point it doesn't matter how you accessed the files, the point was you've been phishing my server for sometime and somehow "luckily" found a directory with source code named Lifetank in it. Stealing is stealing, doesn't matter if you (think) you weren't watched or not (even if it was bait....)

I don't want you to throw the bait or flame card out at us anymore. With these threads you're making, all you're attempting to do is *bait* us out into saying something ( opinionated) negative about you which we have stood taller and ignored. Fact are facts, and anyone who would like to see access logs is more than welcome to send me a private message, I'll proudly prove I'm not lying.


To end our lovely chat this evening, let me leave you with this: How do you know you weren't allowed into that server and we allowed you to download a crippled version just to see if you'd bite?

*bows*
-C

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Crelic_MT posted:

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Unbeliever:
#1. I am C'relic, the one who is part of a team currently developing Lifetank.
#2. I own the webhost/web server he obtained the files. Do you really think it would be *that* easy? Security isn't an issue, and if you need to push that, I'm sure it would fall under some illegal hacking terrorist homeland security laws for any real hacking.
#3. I told you, I have the proof... but I will not post logs publicly on the VN, as I do not believe it pertains to these boards. If requested in PM I may or may not show you.
#4. We have taken appropriate action (Fissionweb Networks and the Lifetank Team) and sent copies of the logs to the appropriate people.


Drakier: Thank you.

-C

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