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Subject: We have been in the new house a year now, and its time to start painting
has anyone gotten it done lately? what kind of a price am i looking at?

we have high ceilings and no way am i getting up there, so painting by myself is out.

 

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Subject: We have been in the new house a year now, and its time to start painting
I do 90% of my painting myself so can't help here, but I am definitely interested in hearing what a vaulted ceiling area would cost... I have an area on my list of things to do that I'll never be able to paint myself! happy

 

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Here is a list of things to find out from the contractor when you call or they come by (most places will stop by and give you an estimate for free)

How do they dispose of the leftover paint, paint containers etc. In some towns you just cannot throw paint cans in your reg garbage they have to be taken to special site.

License and bonding very important in case paint gets spilled on you carpet etc

How much furniture moving do they do? some places absolutely will not even move a chair to paint behind it.

do they include drop cloths for your furniture or do you need to get your own

Some things you can do to cut costs:

Do all the prep work yourself this entails removing all the switch plates, light covers, (as you are removing the covers tape the screws to the back of them so they dont get lost.)

thats all I can think of now if I think of anything else I will add it later.

taping can be a royal pain I would let them do this unless you are very patient lol

Sweep down all the walls to remove dust cob webs.


Last but not least Make sure you get at least a pint of paint in every color they used for touch ups!



 

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ooo good hints

and i will let you know the cost of the ceiling tongue
IM NOT GOING UP THERE! lol

 

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ooo almost forgot a very important tip get a small tub of spackle and go around and patch holes yourself.

Forget using the spackle knife just use your finger. Carry with you a small pail of water and a sponge. After you dab the mud into each hole use your sponge which has been dampened and wrung out really well to smooth over the patch and wipe off any access. If its a big hole then only do like half let it dry for about 24 hours and then re-apply the spackle/mud. You may have to redo a few of the others as well as the spackle shrinks as it dries. Keep rinsing the sponge as needed.

 

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Subject: We have been in the new house a year now, and its time to start painting
We had our living room (HIGH--16'--ceilings all around), family room, kitchen (minimal) and stairway retextured & painted a year ago. It cost us $2000-2500. But keep in mind, there was retexturing done; your house won't require that. Our painter was VERY thorough in his prepwork, making sure there was NO CHANCE paint could land where it shouldn't. Of course, we made it easy on him in the LR: we told him we were replacing the carpet right after he was through painting. wink

 

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ooooo that isnt bad at all. i was fearing 5k at least!

 

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We need to paint our house too...I don't know wtf the builders were thinking but the standard paint they use for all the houses is NON WASHABLE. And it picks up dirt like you wouldn't believe. And I swear they only applied one coat of paint and said "good enough".

First I'm going to fight with the warranty people and threaten to give the company a bad rating on the national homebuilder's survey (it's issued by a national group, not the builders, and the builders like to get good scores on it) if they don't come repaint. With something I can clean!

If that doesn't work...well, there is one area of our house, the entryway and front hallway, that is 2 stories high...goes all the way to the second floor ceiling. I can't even change the light bulbs in the chandelier up there, the 20' ladder we have doesn't go up that high, so no way I'd be able to paint it. If they builders won't come out and fix it, then I'm going to put trim up (like chair rail molding or crown molding, that type of thing) about one story high all around, and I'll paint from there down. It's not the up above that gets dirty anyways! tongue

 

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yeah, they have that kind here also. builder has his own named paint. 1 coat, flat, flat, flatter than a pancake flat paint. wash off anything and you wash off the paint.

that sounds like a great idea tho. unfortunantly, they gave us a neutral brown...like a soggy washed out brown mud color. tannish like. wouldnt go w/ ANYTHING/.


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Great tips, Ayla. Sounds like you have a lot of experience at this sort of thing.

 

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Ew, Foxy, that color sounds horrible. At least ours is white!

 

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i could only wish for white angry

 

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We did our house mostly in antique white for the main rooms. Bedrooms and baths diff colors. We done all the painting ourselves. I did borders in some of the rooms myself also. We have a cathedral ceiling in our living room we are going to have some work done on. Thats gonna be a treat. worried

 

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The first house I had here in Wisconsin had really high ceilings (18') so my second house here doesn't tongue

We paint everything antique white and then use either stenciling or borders for accents. I hate wallpaper so we only use paint in our house. We paint every 3-5 years.

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Subject: We have been in the new house a year now, and its time to start painting
Builders generally use an inexpensive "builder's" or "contractor's" grade paint with new construction homes unless specified by the owner or architect. It sprays easy so it's a faster application and they'll almost always use a flat to hide the imperfections the drywaller left behind. This is pretty much an industry standard so I don't know if complaining about it will get you anywhere, lol.

On the other hand, it makes a great base for new paint!

If you purchase paint yourself, you're looking at 30-40 bucks a gallon for a good quality paint like Ben Moore, depending on where you live. If you live in a hoitie toitie area prepare to pay more, close to the suggested retail.

I would ask your paint supplier for a painter or contractor discount if you're doing your whole house, if they are nice (like me!) they might give you a discount.

 

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so like, you live in texas? wink

 

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Almost visited Texas once and would love to, but no, never been there. sad

I'm sorry to say, but I'm hundreds of miles away in CT.

Everyone I know from TX is super nice though, so someone should help you out! Just stay away from that evil Home Depot! You'll get much better service and smiles from a specialty paint shop.

 

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Heh, I love Home Depot. So much stuff there I can get into and play with.

The one out in Lisbon CT isn't too shabby.

 

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Oh no, Home Depot is great! I just wish people didn't go there for paint.

I get alot of upset customers from them needing to fix issues that subpar quality paint causes. Well, I really shouldn't complain, I get pretty good buisness from them, lol.

Still, I hate to see someone who doesn't paint often make mistakes, and unless you're a professional, it's hard to get inexpensive paint to look right. Higher quality paints are much more forgiving.


Oh please, I worked at the big H.D. 13 years ago when my first job at a lumberyard went under and there was no where else to work. I was there for 3 years and that's where I met my 2 best friends. (whom eventually married eachother, all 3 of us met there)

She's now a store manager there and guess what...she buys her paint from me!

I would always recommend supporting a local independant supplier for stuff like paint, kitchen cabinets, flooring, window treatments, decorative hardware, etc. People are more knowledgeable generaly, know the traps you can fall into, and you're supporting the small buisness community, which for me...is important.

Otherwise, H.D. is great for most building supplies, and even more great if you know what you're doing and know what you want exactly.

I admit too that they're not too bad for inspiring ideas, they have excellent marketing and some pretty good companies helping them.

 

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I have painted in the past. I probably have a good 5 years experience. Let me refute a few things others have said and add a few things here my self. First off licensed. Some one said to make sure the company is licenced and bonded. Many states don't require licensing. Mine is one of them. Any one can buy a brush and paint. Bonded...only helps if your contractor is a thief as far as I know. Insurance. Well I guess you are better off with an insured painter, but many operate with no insurance and lie. Only way to know for sure is to ask them who their agent is and then call their agent. lmao. This doesn't matter all that much unless the guy gets hurt. I have seen many insured painters just pull money out their pocket and pay for damages if they damage some thing. And I have seen all the uninsured painters do this. Most really are worried about their rep and no one wants their rates to go up. Insurance is high.

Ok lets talk about injuries. No painter worth his salt is going to get hurt. The chances are next to nothing. Pretty much the only way, would be if one wanted to hurt him self on purpose so he could sue.

I have seen a lot of crazy stuff in that position. I have seen people do drugs on the job site. Drink beer. Do shoddy work. Paint over areas that were peeling with out sanding. All kinds of crap. The most important thing when hiring a painter is his rep. Don't just call four guys out of the phone book and take the lowest bid. If your friend says his painter did fantastic work and you have seen the work. And your friend says his painter has a good attitude and worked as long and hard as he had to, to finish the job in a timely manner....you should probably go with that guy even if his bid is a bit higher than the guy you have never heard of.

The person who said 30-40 a gallon is in the right ball park. But you could easily pay $45 for a superior product. If you higher a contractor he will get a discount, and will most likely pass it on to you. Now lets talk labor pricing. All I know is the mid-west. If you go to NY, NY., you might pay some incredibly ignorant price. But in the mid-west it seems typical to pay $40-$75 a man hour. Yes this sounds high but remember the pro painter can paint four times faster than you can (at least). He will get a lot of work done in an hour. And no, he is not charging by the hour but when he gives you a bid he is in his mind guessing at how many hours of labor and how much he wants to make per hour.

If you get an uninsured painter who runs a real small painting biz out of his house, you may get the work for closer to $20 an hour. Paying insurance and all that crap is out of hand. Running the biz legit with every thing one would want will easily double the labor cost. I guess the reason I added this is that if your long time friends son is a painter and will paint for around $20 an hour and do good work, you definitely want to go with that.

 

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Oh the only other thing I forgot to add is that the painter doesn't want to work for free. Every one wants free but no one wants to work for free. Many people think that the painter should move the furniture, prep, etc for free.

The painter giving the bid is almost always thinking about the furniture he has to move. Every thing. If you don't want it included in the bid, then move it before you get the bid, or possibly assure him it will be moved if he gets the bid (and he may not believe you. People often say they will move furniture and then don't. They want free!). If you plan on prepping to save money, do it before you get the bid. Many people say they will prep and then don't. Many people do prep and do it half a$$ed. Again they want free.

Try and remember the painter is giving you the lowest bid he can. He assumes you will get more than one bid and he wants to be competitive. He how ever doesn't want to volunteer to move furniture or mud and sand for nothing.

 

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