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Hmm, eltank is for attended combat. If you die and do not wish to get your corpse, simply hit the x in the top left hand corner of screen and that will log you out.

Not sure why you need a plugin for that?

 

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lol wake up and smell the coffee.

There are several El Tank 'shells' out there, not advertised, good luck getting one.

In their crudest form, they simply keep ELT alive by mashing a key.

At the other end of the spectrum, are very elegant ones that include a nice set of features you won't find in ELT as it comes out of the box, and the ability for the user to customize these features to his or her preference.

If macroing does not hurt anyone, i.e. impact their game play experience, there is no issue to get your panties in a bundle over.

If gamers macro in the woods and nobody hears them, are they really macroing?

People who macro in popular spots and don't have the mental horsepower to use a log-on-stranger-detection program are insensitive and should be reported/banned. Good macroers don't want to be seen or heard and move in the shadows, no one will ever see people in that group.

 

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Subject: is there a plugin that logs u if u die running el tank?
Chazcon posted:
People who macro in popular spots and don't have the mental horsepower to use a log-on-stranger-detection program are insensitive and should be reported/banned. Good macroers don't want to be seen or heard and move in the shadows, no one will ever see people in that group.



so we can safely say that macroers who dont get caught are ninja's? And macroers that loot and plunder in areas that are popular, are pirates?


Ninjas vs Pirates.....DISCUSS!

 

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Chazcon posted:

People who macro in popular spots and don't have the mental horsepower to use a log-on-stranger-detection program are insensitive and should be reported/banned. Good macroers don't want to be seen or heard and move in the shadows, no one will ever see people in that group.


I've got no issue with Chaz's position at all. Unfortunately it appears that most UCMers think that high xp dungeons such as Fiun, Eaters, PotB and EO are not 'popular spots'

I've decided to quit fighting them and just join them. Get in their fellow, find a nice safe corner to *afk* at, then go watch a movie. That way I'm working just as hard as they are for the xp...AND not breaking the rules happy

 

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<anal>The X is in the top right corner.</anal>

And there is a plugin that'll do this for you, it's called Fingers 2.0.

 

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i would also need such a plugin since i use eltank when im setup as a buffbot.
And im sure many ppl out there that have had a buffbot knows that once in awhile some retard tk's the bot...
i just dont wanna log on to 40% vp.

the log on death function in ltx dont work good with eltanks buffbot mode cause it keeps going from peace to cast mode back and forth all the time.

any input here?

 

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Chazcon posted:
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People who macro in popular spots and don't have the mental horsepower to use a log-on-stranger-detection program are insensitive and should be reported/banned. Good macroers don't want to be seen or heard and move in the shadows, no one will ever see people in that group.
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yeah.. they aren't seen or heard from until they become insanely and artifically high level and start complaining about lack of content suited to their level. Macroing has already done it's harm.. not much more harm can come from it. I still passionately disprove of combat macroing, but I believe the damage has already been done to the point beyond repair, and it's pretty useless to attempt to do anything about it now other than maintain the course of banning those caught.
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Benzo_de_gothia posted:
i would also need such a plugin since i use eltank when im setup as a buffbot.
And im sure many ppl out there that have had a buffbot knows that once in awhile some retard tk's the bot...
i just dont wanna log on to 40% vp.

the log on death function in ltx dont work good with eltanks buffbot mode cause it keeps going from peace to cast mode back and forth all the time.

any input here?


try castaway buffbot and ltx to log on death maybe?

 

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thx but i solved it using the plugin quack by ftuoil grin

worked great....thx ftuoil great work =)

 

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Benzo_de_gothia posted:
i would also need such a plugin since i use eltank when im setup as a buffbot.
And im sure many ppl out there that have had a buffbot knows that once in awhile some retard tk's the bot...
i just dont wanna log on to 40% vp.

the log on death function in ltx dont work good with eltanks buffbot mode cause it keeps going from peace to cast mode back and forth all the time.

any input here?


Of course all of the above is a poor lie. If you are looking for a UCM aid, be a man and just say it, jesus.

 

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i posted
"i would also need such a plugin since i use eltank when im setup as a buffbot.
And im sure many ppl out there that have had a buffbot knows that once in awhile some retard tk's the bot...
i just dont wanna log on to 40% vp.

the log on death function in ltx dont work good with eltanks buffbot mode cause it keeps going from peace to cast mode back and forth all the time.

any input here?"

/////Chazcon responds

Of course all of the above is a poor lie. If you are looking for a UCM aid, be a man and just say it, jesus.
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ill break what i said down abit and respond:

if i was looking for a plug that would log me on death while ucm'ing id use ltx, it does that...
i described my problem and you can test it yourself...try to get ltx's log on death to work with buffbot mode in eltank.
Perhaps running a buffbot on hg never puts you in the position of getting tk'in and left to rot at a ls in your birthsuit with max vp...but wth do i know i only play darktide.


sincerly Benzo De Gothia

 

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whats with the attitude man...?

 

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ignore him, he always has attitude, especially when he get shot down and dont want to admit it happy

 

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anyone on these boards that still think eltank is not for UCM is just stupid. the other day on FF there were about 20 to 30 in general discussion talking about thier best places to UCM with eltank. yes right in the open for everyone to hear, the mods could care less and neither could the players.

and there are those who still wonder why eltank has the reputation that it does........

 

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For UCM purposes, I believe more people use Lifetank now than Eltank.

This is from observation ingame only and I have no concrete numbers to back it up...it does tend to make sense though as you have no timer to circumvent like you do in Eltank.

 

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woot quack is where its at. ty guys. problem solved.

 

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"/////Chazcon responds

Of course all of the above is a poor lie. If you are looking for a UCM aid, be a man and just say it, jesus.
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Ok....anyone wanna pm me one? wink

 

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Gouru, if you knew the rules as well as you code, you might be a dangerous "anti"...
you said....


I've got no issue with Chaz's position at all. Unfortunately it appears that most UCMers think that high xp dungeons such as Fiun, Eaters, PotB and EO are not 'popular spots'

I've decided to quit fighting them and just join them. Get in their fellow, find a nice safe corner to *afk* at, then go watch a movie. That way I'm working just as hard as they are for the xp...AND not breaking the rules

end quote..

turbines rules state that if you are in the fellow gaining xp, you are subject to testing, and IF you fail the test, you are UCM and can get banned. With or without a program macroing, you are ucm if you fail the test.. Its the same reason you cant put a 275 mage in holding who can evade everything and use him as a buff bot.. TECHnically you are getting xp from the evades and subject to the test..

 

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Dear Shiba,

Please show me in the rules where you can be banned for using the *afk* emote.

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Shiba, you are wrong, the rules state if you are in a spot where monsters can attack you, then you are subject to a test.

Sitting AFK in a fellow in a safe spot is no a CoC violation.

Nice try at trying to make up your own version of the CoC.

 

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I never make things up with the CoC..

It was stated on the VN dev board by IBN, as well as on turbines boards awile back.. IF you are gaining xp, you are subject to a test, and can be banned.

I didnt say IT would happen, I said it can happen..

 

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IBN actaully said only if you are affecting combat.

You MUST be in some form of combat to be subjected to a test. That could simply be a drudge trying to get to you or targeting you with a spell, but if you affect the creatures in any way then you are liable to be tested.

Sitting in a safe spot of a dungeon leaching is not subject to a test, so long as NO monsters can see or target you and you cast no spells at them.

 

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I thought even if they could see you and target you but couldn't actually cause you to evade or resist (which would give you xp), then you were safe. I used to run Bots R Us a buff bot in Tusker Holding as he would stand on the statue heads (before they were intangible). Of course some tuskers would attempt to kill him, but because they couldn't actually hit me (with phsyical attacks or spells), I was safe from bannage.

As for the original question:

1. LifeTank can kill and log on death, log on loss of comps, log on player detections, etc.
http://www.reality.net/ac/xx/

2. Quack can keep you in game if idle and log you out on death (good with ELTank I guess). It wont prevent ELTank from turning off if no keys are pressed though. It's also listed as a discontinued plugin at Suca's so I'm not sure how well it works.
http://www.circleofseven.com/ac/Quack

3. For you hardcore ELTank'ers, you should really just use ACTool. It's pretty easy to learn to code in, and the amount of options you could build yourself is limitless. Log on death, log on low comps, log on player detection (add a friends list), keep ELTank alive, log if Asheron @tells you that you suck, etc.
http://www.actool.net/

Here's a small starter ACTool script which will log you out on death. For some neat ideas, look at tinker bot (it can log back in):

// Everything below this line is for the macro
SetActiveWindow Asheron's Call
Constants
MyOriginalVitae = 0
End
SetConst MyOriginalVitae = _myvitae
While $MyOriginalVaite <= _myvitae
Delay 5 Sec
End
~{ESC}
~{ESC}
~{ESC}
End

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sui101: it is against ToS to help users in bypassing security of an application or measures put in to keep the plugin from breaking the CoC.

by you telling users how to bypass the ELTank timer, which was put in to keep ELTank from being used UCM, you are breaking the Terms of Service.

Please edit your post and remove that information.

 

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I'm sorry, my edit timer is up and this is the first time I have returned to see the post. I don't get much time at work. I will pm the listed mods right now to edit it for me, as I didn't realize that's why people hadn't posted.

 

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