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does anyone no if this is a planned update or where i can find it friend might want to update it
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that really was one of the most pointless plugins, is it that hard to type grats yourself.
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when you're afk it is
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lol I was thinking about a plugin to do that the other night... how pointless.
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isn't it annoying enough getting all the people who are at their keyboard sending you spammed "grats" messages? let alone then all of the people who are AFK running a plugin doing it. Seems like it would cause a lot of spam to users who may not otherwise want to be completely spammed to death.
I don't know if I personally approve of this plugin (then again, I don't think I approved of it when it was first written either)
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As horrible as the function of Grats! is I feel obligated to point out that VCS can be set up to perform this function. I even put up an example configset here:
http://questers.polarism.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1718
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I have my VCS setup to auto-grats on fellow levels. Never miss a well-deserved Grats again!
I also auto-Wootah! when I level. My comp also plays a clip from the Wizard of Oz when I level, the lion.."Aww, shucks folks!". I think it's funny.
When I die I play a clip from the Adam Sandler movie Happy Gilmore - you know, when he is on TV cursing up a storm for 2 minutes and it's all bleeped out. I crack myself up.
When I check housing, if a villa is open or a cottage I'm watching, it plays the dramatic castle sound from the Holy Grail.
I set it up to filter out any combat hits on me that are under 10 points. Great in bug dungeons.
I also added a sound event to Critical hits, a sword 'swoosh' that really adds a lot to a melee fight if you ask me. In addition to the games' normal combat sounds, the extra sound on a crit makes a big difference. It's fun!
etc etc...I love this little plugin.
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Chazcon you have convinced me to try that plugin. That actually sound like fun.
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Chazcon, that sounds really cool. Gonna have to try that.
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<< isn't it annoying enough getting all the people who are at their keyboard sending you spammed "grats" messages? let alone then all of the people who are AFK running a plugin doing it. >>
That is my personal opinion.
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Grats! did more than just send Grats! to the person who got the kill on the Aerlinthe Quest. I always enjoyed the tells to fellow chat when a member died:
"MAN DOWN! MEDIC!"
"We will build a statue in your honor."
"Can you grab me some tapers while you're visiting your LS?"
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Does Drakier have to approve every plugin?
I think we have a decal ego problem!
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<<Grats! did more than just send Grats! to the person who got the kill on the Aerlinthe Quest. I always enjoyed the tells to fellow chat when a member died...>>
With VCS you can send any message on any text event 
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Has nothing to do with Ego or Decal, nor does every plugin have to be approved either by me or anyone else.
I said that I PERSONALLY do not agree with a plugin to send automated spam to someone like that. I've been on the quests and got the kills, and the "grats" from everyone who is actually THERE was more than enough for me. I can only imagine adding more people who AREN'T there to the mix and getting a lot more messages than I'd like to personally receive. I didn't say that other people cannot disagree with me.
As far as approval goes, I generally have a pretty good idea on things that are and are not good/bad/damaging/etc.. while grats isn't a plugin that would kill the server or resource, I do think it can cause a lot of unwanted spam on the other end.. and you also have to remember that the person on the other end "receiving" the grats cannot filter them out or really do anything about them other than just wait it out. They don't have ano option to NOT be spammed if they want the kill. This can be annoying to a lot of people.
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hehe, someone might be offended by to many grats!
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This is pretty comical. Someone connects saying Grats to UCM.
I admit that this is a stupid plugin, but not lets get crazy.
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although I didn't meantion it earlier, I think a "grats" plugin can "cheapen" the experience as well. It's not just about getting a whole bunch of people sending you "grats" messages, but also knowing that each one of those people was actually online and SAW what you did in order to send you the "grats" message.
While generally this isn't a big thing, I think I'd feel much more rewarded knowing that each and every "grats" message I was sent was sent by someone personally who was ACTUALLY wishing my congratulations and not just someone who happened to be running a plugin.
I still say my feelings about the spam generated by a plugin however is the major reason why I disapprove of an automated spam plugin such as "Grats".
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Drakier posted:
Has nothing to do with Ego or Decal, nor does every plugin have to be approved either by me or anyone else.
As far as approval goes, I generally have a pretty good idea on things that are and are not good/bad/damaging/etc..
this brightened my morning. we love ya Drak.
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"I think a "grats" plugin can "cheapen" the experience as well." - Drakier
Exactly. I would prefer to be spammed by players who were actually happy for me in whatever I did instead of a meaningless automated response. My turn at the Lady was fun as I tried reading & responding to all the varied messages that came in after the global.
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<<... I still say my feelings about the spam generated by a plugin however is the major reason why I disapprove of an automated spam plugin such as "Grats".>>
I agree. I think that Grats! is a pretty stupid idea, actually. If someone's UCM, it's better for them to just be quiet. It's not like by running an autoresponder people are going to actually think you're at the keyboard, which I'm sure was the original idea of Grats!.
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it is an excellent idea.where do you get off drakier? he asked if somone knew a link,not if any one approved or disapproved of it.seriously who cares if you approve or dissaprove of it.we are not required to type anything and if he wants to be courtious and say grats thats cool if not thats cool too. id like ta get it myself and 1 that says thank you. i got the game to lvl and raise attributes not chat. it is chat in general they need to remove but since its there we can be courtious and have a plugin tell em grats if we are there or not.
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"it is an excellent idea.where do you get off drakier? he asked if somone knew a link,not if any one approved or disapproved of it.seriously who cares if you approve or dissaprove of it.we are not required to type anything and if he wants to be courtious and say grats thats cool if not thats cool too. id like ta get it myself and 1 that says thank you. i got the game to lvl and raise attributes not chat. it is chat in general they need to remove but since its there we can be courtious and have a plugin tell em grats if we are there or not." -- pookybear348
The plugin skirts the line between something that is used to be courtious and something that is used to minimize the chance that another player will report you for UCMing. I don't think is out of line to point out that the basic premise of a plugin could be used to violate the CoC. It is after all, a violation of VN board rules to seek assistance in breaking Turbine's CoC. I'm not saying that was the intention of the OP but it may have something to do with the comments of disapproval made by some of the other posters.
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true Kyuzo it may be used by ucmers or may not. but the poster was not asking for oppinions but in fact was asking if anyone knew a link? and it is not the players job to police,report or worry about if ppl are ucm or anything at all except what they themselves are doing. the fact that ppl think we have to type anything at all ever is proposterous.in fact after 6 years i still can not type and have no desire to do so if i wanna chat aol has tons of options.
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i believe the author of that posts occassionally to TD server, handle of redfist
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I only check the boards once every month or two but I was glad to see this.
I wrote "Grats!" It was a fun little plugin and was more fun for fellowship responses than for global (like the Aerlinthe quest). It wasn't written as a UCM helper although I find it incredibly amusing that people associate it with that.
To answer the original question, no I'm not planning on upgrading the plugin. I don't play AC anymore and haven't kept up on what it would take to update to the latest Decal. If someone wanted to take it over, I'd be happy to share the source as long as my name was carried along with the plugin as well (in addition to the new dev).
It's a plugin to spread goodwill and smiles. It's silly. It's sometimes comical. It can be annoying if misused, but isn't that the same with so many other plugins? It's a tool and like any tool can be misused or used to great effect.
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I actually wasn't associating it with UCM at all... nowhere in my posts did I even meantion it's UCM uses. I simply said that an automatic "grats" if a lot of people are using it could be a bit much..
Take the worst case scenario... take the case where everyone on the server is running the plugin.
Imagine you are now in the position of getting the kill on Aerlinthe... After you get that kill, you get literally EVERY person on the server sending you a "grats" message. Don't you think that is a bit much?
And although you might claim that not everyone would ever be running it, in software development it is a common practice to always assume worst case scenario when looking at risk factors.
And you're probably right... I'm not sure many people would be running this, but since I cannot 100% claim the numbers of who would be running it, a worst case scenario is needed... and IMO, that is too much unwanted spam.
If there was a way to be able to FILTER all that spam, I'd feel SLIGHTLY better about it, but it still puts an un-needed load on the server. Why in the world would someone feel it completely necessary to send someone a "Grats" when they aren't even there.
For fellowship stuff or whatever, that is fine... it affects a minimal set of people. For something that can go server-wide, I have problems with that.
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Drak, would using the bot tag in a tell filter it out?
/t %player%, Grats dude -b- or is it <b>
I can never remember. Then again lately I can't remeber what day it is. lol
As for the server load, AC supposedly runs on 200 rack mount Dell servers.
With the populations as of late, I don't think it would hurt much. ( in my opinion )
Edit---- I just reread the article I saw about the servers, it said both versions ran on 200 servers, so I guess that means AC itself doesn't have that many.
Here's the URL is anyone is interested
http://www.byteandswitch.com/document.asp?doc_id=78596
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FYI: In the latest version, you can specify a percent chance for saying the grats message. I have the Aerlinthe one (for example) lowish (25%) and fellowship ones high (100%) by default.
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The bot tags would help for those who are running plugins that can filter bot tags...
What it comes down to for me (and this goes for tradebots as well) is ... should a person have to be running a plugin to filter out that stuff? Or should people be courteous enough of their fellow players to not subject them to those things which would need filtering?
I would hope the second, but I know that in this day and age, that is becoming harder and harder to find.
But anything that would allow filtering would be better than nothing IMO.
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"...Take the worst case scenario... take the case where everyone on the server is running the plugin..."
what 50 people?
lol
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