Author Topic: Decal Help-possible Character Stats filter error?
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Subject: Decal Help-possible Character Stats filter error?
I can load game just fine w/o Character Stats filter on-however w.o character filters I cannot run LifeTank.

Here's the error I get when I get booted from AC on login

acclient has encountered a problem and needs to close. We are sorry for the inconvenience.

AppName: acclient.exe AppVer: 0.0.11.2608 AppStamp:4371afe4
ModName: decalfilters.dll ModVer: 2.9.3.4 ModStamp:43a44600
fDebug: 0 Offset: 00008d9a


And here's the Decal export.

Decal (DenAgent.exe) version: 2.9.3.4

type, enabled, name, version,
Plugins, 1, ELTank v2.6.0.20-Beta-5a, 2.6.0.20
Plugins, 1, Decal Hotkey System, 2.9.3.4
Plugins, 1, LifeTank X, 11.5.0.2
Plugins, 1, Quest Timer, 2.4.0.2
Network Filters, 1, Echo Filter 2, 2.9.3.4
Network Filters, 1, Character Stats Filter, 2.9.3.4
Network Filters, 1, World Object Filter, 2.9.3.4
Network Filters, 1, Identify Queue Filter, 2.9.3.4
Network Filters, 1, SpellFilter, 2.9.3.4
Network Filters, 1, Darkside Filter, 11.5.0.2
Services, 1, Decal .NET Lifetime Service, 2.9.3.4
Services, 1, Decal Dat Service, 2.9.3.4
Services, 1, Decal Render Service, 2.9.3.4
Services, 1, Decal Inject Gateway Service, 2.9.3.4
Services, 1, Decal Input Service, 2.9.3.4
Services, 1, Decal Networking Service, 2.9.3.4
Surrogates, 1, Decal.Adapter Surrogate, 2.9.3.4
Surrogates, 1, Prefilter Network Filter Surrogate, 2.9.3.4
Surrogates, 1, ActiveX Plugin Surrogate, 2.9.3.4
Surrogates, 1, Version 1 Plugin Surrogate, 2.9.3.4
Input Actions, 1, Delay Input Action, 2.9.3.4
Input Actions, 1, Mouse Move Input Action, 2.9.3.4
Input Actions, 1, Restore Input Action, 2.9.3.4
Input Actions, 1, Polled Delay Input Action, 2.9.3.4
Input Actions, 1, Typing Input Action, 2.9.3.4
Input Actions, 1, Event Input Action, 2.9.3.4

Operating System:
Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)

[Protected Storage Service] : Automatic

[Injection Method] : Timer (Default)

Decal Settings
[Update URL] : http://decal.acdev.org
[memlocs.xml] : 24048 bytes, Version 0.0.11.2608
[messages.xml] : 60941 bytes, Version 2005.12.13.1

Runtime Libraries
[msvbvm60.dll] : Installed (6.0.96.90)
[atl70.dll] : Installed (7.0.9466.0)
[mfc70.dll] : Installed (7.0.9466.0)
[msvcr70.dll] : Installed (7.0.9466.0)
[msvcp70.dll] : Installed (7.0.9466.0)
[atl71.dll] : Installed (7.10.3077.0)
[mfc71.dll] : Installed (7.10.3077.0)
[msvcr71.dll] : Installed (7.10.6014.4)
[msvcp71.dll] : Installed (7.10.4301.0)

Microsoft XML Libraries
[msxml3.dll] : Installed (8.50.2162.0)
[msxml4.dll] : Installed (4.20.9818.0)



I searched the board and only found one person having this same problem-someone told them to hit the update button, I've done that MULTIPLE TIMES. No luck for me cry

 

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Subject: Decal Help-possible Character Stats filter error?
did you get the latest Decal from the Decal site?

There have been like 3 releases just this week.

I believe a new version was released yesterday to take care of the CharStats issue.

 

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Subject: Decal Help-possible Character Stats filter error?
Drakier posted:
did you get the latest Decal from the Decal site?

There have been like 3 releases just this week.

I believe a new version was released yesterday to take care of the CharStats issue.


Yes, I have the version 5d
New one has not helped me, lol

Everything has been reinstalled

 

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Same Problem, will post Decal Export when I get home.

 

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Vault boards are a bad place to ask actual Decal developers for support. Go to our forums.

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Subject: Decal Help-possible Character Stats filter error?
Haz, you can't mention here if a person has been banned or not (was warned this afternoon for doing so).


Also note, regardless of what Haz is saying, two of us have reported some problems with charstats filer and findit with a charname that includes a dash. More info on that as Haz suggests can be found over on the developer's forum.

 

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That's the only way of telling people that they can't be fully helped here, so I tell them. If I'm banned because of idiotic Vault policies for it, so be it. I don't really care any more, they know they only lose traffic when they ban me for stupid reasons.

In any case, your problem has absolutely nothing to do with dashes. I don't know how to tell you this so you'll believe me. Dashes really don't mean anything special.

 

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would be nice haz if you actually read all the data posted about wwhen where the crash occurrs in stead of jsut attempting to pretend there is no problem with no data.

just bury your head in the sand and keep shouting there is no problem. that will fix it

 

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Subject: Decal Help-possible Character Stats filter error?
remember Haz:
I was the first to report a problem with findit for alpha 4,

i was the first to report a problem with findit alapha 5,

I was the first to report a problem with batons/wands in findit alpha 5 maybe the 2nd to post a debug (you know the one Gorou came up with a work around of removing the blanks for the unchecked magic casting item),

and the 2nd on this forum to start mentioning a problem with names with dashs so far I've traced it back to a problem possibly related to charstats filter and a monarch toon - which will then corrupt a lot of things.

so stop trying to blow me off as an odd ball and maybe start listening to what I'm trying to say.

 

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It happens to my toon also, and it has no dashes in it's name.

I was thinking to augmented stats, but i am just shoting in the dark since i know minus 0 about coding.

Anyhow i like Hazridi's job: if it was up to me i would never dedicate so much time in trying to fix an interface for a computer game for free.

I figure it takes a ton of their spare time to fix Decal and they have my maximum respect for having so much desire to accomplish a majority of whining kids.

 

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yeah haz has it rought but some of it he is bringing on himself

they ahve gotten some donations for their work, so it hasn't been totally 'free' yet it was probablly so little that 'technically' it amounted to almost nothing so is a sense of getting practically NOTHTING, most of the work has been free.


I've mentioned numerous times how and where the bug can be repeated, over the course of several hours I've refined that to exactly what seems to be causeing the problem all the while all haz has said is repeatly is there is no dash bug.

yeah as someone mentioned there wasn't a WI flag either.

My OPINION is haz is a 19-21 devewloper with a "I'am great/god" type of attituide and after the first message really has not been paying attention to the details only skimming and repeating no there isn't a problem

which doesn't help

 

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agnari: did you ever stop to think for once that Haz actually knows what he's talking about? And what you said is a personal attack and is not allowed.

He has told you countless times that there is no "dash" bug because there isn't. People with dashes in their name can log in fine.. if you want examples, look at the other thread where you meantioned this.

I'm not quite sure what the issue is because I haven't been following that thread very closely, but I trust haz's opinion and if he says it isn't a dash in the name, then I believe him... and so should you. Afterall.. he IS the one with the code sitting right in front of him. Do you have the Decal Source in front of you?

You can hypothesize all you want, but at the end of the day, you don't have the code. You can only speculate based on what characteristics you're seeing. We can actually VERIFY by looking at code.

So please stop talking about it now. There is no problem with characters who have a dash in their name.

 

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fine drakier and tell/explain to me why the monarch toon with dash in the name consistently crashs and can not log in with decal and charstatsus fileter enabled?

explain that PLEASE.

explain why after a crash cuased by the monarch that none of the toons with a dash in the name can be logged in but others without the dash can?

explain that PLEASE.


Haz keeps saying there is no problem yet I can't log in the monarch without completely turning off decal version 5

explain that PLEASE.

the dash seems to be associated with the crash, the monarch seems to be associated with the crash.

what is Haz's explaination for the crash? why can't the monarch log in?

 

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what part of "I'm not quite sure what the issue is because I haven't been following that thread very closely" did you miss?

chances are, its a protocol issue related to some of the flags... but then again.. as I said before.. I haven't been following this problem particularly closely, as I've been working on other aspects of different problems.

Until we get it fixed, all you can do is speculate, and you're speculating incorrectly..

it's just circumstance that you were able to find a couple of characters with a dash in their name and crash.

There are a LOT of things more similar to characters than just their name. It could be something in their flag values or other things. (you know all those settings that are stored on a per-character basis on the server side? it could be some of those!)

 

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i just logged in a Toon named Dark-Tinker, all i had was decal 5D running and i was able to log in and out and play just fine. Only time i get problems is when i have ElTank running with decal, then i get random crash from switching toons.

 

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Subject: Decal Help-possible Character Stats filter error?
<< fine drakier and tell/explain to me why the monarch toon with dash in the name consistently crashs and can not log in with decal and charstatsus fileter enabled? >>

How can you explain that characters with dashes in their name can log in without crashing, with Decal and Characterstats enabled?

 

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Anyone having THE ACTUAL charstats issue, check out the thread here:

http://forums.acdev.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3937

As it says, if you don't know what you're doing, do not attempt that.

This is for INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES only.. it is not intended as a fix.

It is intended at a way for us to collect data about the problem so we can CREATE a fix.

Thanks

 

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Maddy_ACEDL posted:
<< fine drakier and tell/explain to me why the monarch toon with dash in the name consistently crashs and can not log in with decal and charstatsus fileter enabled? >>

How can you explain that characters with dashes in their name can log in without crashing, with Decal and Characterstats enabled?



I saw this topic earlier today, and even commented it on another thread.

Recently, I've been cleaning up my mules, and I have noticed that when I try to log in or log out of a character with a - in their name, they tend to crash more often than the rest of my toons.

I just did a little experiment, and out of 10 logins/logouts on toons such as "Al-Ackbar" and "Edrin al-Jafar", I crashed when I logged out of them about 50/50.

When I logged in to other toons without a - in their name (ie from Arch Magi to Sword of Kos) it took me about 10 times before I crashed.

The only program I was running was Decal, DHS, and ElTank.

Bottom line, I am seeing instances where if log out of a toon with a - in his name, it APPEARS to crash more frequently.

For what it is worth.



Decal (DenAgent.exe) version: 2.9.3.4

type, enabled, name, version, clsid
Plugins, 0, AC Tool Companion, 5.4.0.20, {12132875-071F-4800-86C1-142F128DBE48}
Plugins, 1, ELTank v2.6.0.20-Beta-5a, 2.6.0.20, {39E9E0F5-85D7-4C38-87D6-3BBCB853357E}
Plugins, 0, MuleShopper, 1.1.0.31, {43BA1416-2A30-4869-AEC4-5F96F17EC877}
Plugins, 1, Decal Hotkey System, 2.9.3.4, {6B6B9FA8-37DE-4FA3-8C60-52BD6A2F9855}
Plugins, 0, TreeStats 2, 0.1.6.2, {9847B2B7-C7C7-42BA-9361-021D01715E8F}
Plugins, 0, Mule Trader Beta, 0.0.0.333, {9D762D6E-6444-485A-B242-C50386013763}
Network Filters, 1, ACDC Core Filter, 7.2.2.0, {2DB1B641-4039-4D69-831A-79915EC266CE}
Network Filters, 1, Echo Filter 2, 2.9.3.4, {34239EAD-6317-4C40-A405-193BA5232DD8}
Network Filters, 1, Character Stats Filter, 2.9.3.4, {4540C969-08D1-46BF-97AD-6B19D3C10BEE}
Network Filters, 1, World Object Filter, 2.9.3.4, {53092D1B-F0B0-46FF-BF11-8F031EC9B137}
Network Filters, 1, Identify Queue Filter, 2.9.3.4, {B0C05A9A-273D-4BC4-B7BA-E27CF94C8EF4}
Network Filters, 1, SpellFilter, 2.9.3.4, {C2D43735-BE7E-4829-AF73-F2E7E820EB16}
Network Filters, 1, Darkside Filter, 1.3.0.14, {F93FD48F-BA68-4BF5-A7B3-7908D1634331}
Services, 1, Decal .NET Lifetime Service, 2.9.3.4, {71A69713-6593-47EC-0001-0000000DECA1}
Services, 1, Decal Dat Service, 2.9.3.4, {37B083F0-276E-43AD-8D26-3F7449B519DC}
Services, 1, Decal Render Service, 2.9.3.4, {FB3C8286-88ED-4B4D-B413-94B40F346239}
Services, 1, Decal Inject Gateway Service, 2.9.3.4, {FEFE5CAB-10E4-404F-AD4D-184BCB506099}
Services, 1, Decal Input Service, 2.9.3.4, {B33307BA-706D-474A-80B9-70BB8D13EF3E}
Services, 1, Decal Networking Service, 2.9.3.4, {C8C406F8-BA2E-4964-8B04-FF38394A8E0E}
Surrogates, 1, Decal.Adapter Surrogate, 2.9.3.4, {71A69713-6593-47EC-0002-0000000DECA1}
Surrogates, 1, Prefilter Network Filter Surrogate, 2.9.3.4, {443D4A68-5422-4E0C-9460-973F8FBDB190}
Surrogates, 1, ActiveX Plugin Surrogate, 2.9.3.4, {7559F22F-C56F-4621-AE08-9C354D799D4B}
Surrogates, 1, Version 1 Plugin Surrogate, 2.9.3.4, {3D837F6E-B5CA-4604-885F-7AB45FCFA62A}
Input Actions, 1, Delay Input Action, 2.9.3.4, {324D76B8-D8C7-4A81-B867-E4E1F874E488}
Input Actions, 1, Mouse Move Input Action, 2.9.3.4, {57D18578-0BF0-4DE5-A0A9-E7CB531C0429}
Input Actions, 1, Restore Input Action, 2.9.3.4, {6EE2F682-7129-44BE-84B9-787BAE35EC1C}
Input Actions, 1, Polled Delay Input Action, 2.9.3.4, {762335B2-2274-4BB4-8B1F-F7286C949FF7}
Input Actions, 1, Typing Input Action, 2.9.3.4, {9CDCEEDC-F8AC-42D5-9A05-52B9346D00A4}
Input Actions, 1, Event Input Action, 2.9.3.4, {D6E4BD19-4900-4515-BCE2-A9EA4AAE2699}

Operating System:
Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)

[Protected Storage Service] : Automatic

[Injection Method] : CBT Hook (Alternate)

Decal Settings
[Update URL] : http://decal.acdev.org
[memlocs.xml] : 24048 bytes, Version 0.0.11.2608
[messages.xml] : 60941 bytes, Version 2005.12.13.1

Runtime Libraries
[msvbvm60.dll] : Installed (6.0.97.82)
[atl70.dll] : Not Installed
[mfc70.dll] : Not Installed
[msvcr70.dll] : Not Installed
[msvcp70.dll] : Not Installed
[atl71.dll] : Installed (7.10.3077.0)
[mfc71.dll] : Installed (7.10.3077.0)
[msvcr71.dll] : Installed (7.10.3052.4)
[msvcp71.dll] : Installed (7.10.3077.0)

Microsoft XML Libraries
[msxml3.dll] : Installed (8.50.2162.0)
[msxml4.dll] : Installed (4.20.9818.0)

 

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Subject: Decal Help-possible Character Stats filter error?
my main account is randomly unstable like that aswell, no dashes in the names or anything

for whats it worth. lol



only with eltank or lifetank running tho, with just decal running i am fine.

 

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