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I know there is an AC Tools plugin already, but I want a Decal plugin that does the same thing. That way I can make my buff bot and Allegiance Officer and run this program in addition to the buff bot program.
What it does: In a nutshell, it would issue a single command, over and over again, based on a user defined frequencey and list. Here is the command: @allegiance boot –account [character]
Why it is needed: Because Turbines "ban list" is toon short and there are people out there that have nothing better to do that to grief a guild for jollies.
If you are worried that it could be used to "keep alive" ElTank, then the simple work around is ... make the minimum timer longer than what ElTank needs to be updated to stay in combat mode.
Ideally you could add 50 or 100 or 1000 names to a list (either in game or outside the game) and every X minutes it would go down that list and take the next name on the list and then automatically add the name where [character] is in the @allegiance boot –account [character] command.
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My StartMeUp plugin (which needs to be updated for Decal 3 still) could do something like this at login. I don't think it would be too hard to get working again as it used ACHooks and no Imp Filter stuff as I recall. Adding an option for timer to re-run the commands if desired could be possible.
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I run an ACTool macro that 'syncs' my Friends list and Squelch list on all my toons. I set up a F list and S list and login each character to clear and set the lists. Takes about 30-40 secs per toon, I do this once a month or so.
You could do the same with a guild boot list, but the whole idea sounds ridiculous and smacks of paranoia. How does a player 'grief a guild'??
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Maybe i will finish The ReBoot Plugin during the holiday.
I have been too busy to work on much because of the end of year stuff at work 
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Chazcon posted:
I run an ACTool macro that 'syncs' my Friends list and Squelch list on all my toons. I set up a F list and S list and login each character to clear and set the lists. Takes about 30-40 secs per toon, I do this once a month or so.
You could do the same with a guild boot list, but the whole idea sounds ridiculous and smacks of paranoia. How does a player 'grief a guild'??
Well, I could say one word ... <Edit> ... and you'd get the idea (But I may be banned for mentioning his name here because he is currently banned), but if you want a more detailed explanation ... http://forums.ac.turbinegames.com/showthread.php?t=26999
Trust me, everyone in TLoC knows that "<Edit> is NEVER to be let in the guild" ... but then again, because <Edit> has made a "game" out of "infultrating" us, all he does is delete a toon, roll up a new one, level it to 20 or so (about an hour), wait a few days ... swear to one of the 5500 toon in the guild (you remember, this game is a MMORPG and the idea is to have and build a patron/vassal relationship), act nice for a day or two, exploit what he can out of the guild, then when he is off his "medication" blow a head gasket and terrorize the place when he knows that one of the 2 people who can actually boot him aren't on (which is most of the time, since we both have lives and aren't online 24/7).
Examples of what can be done:
Cussing on the /a channel and knowing who is a guild officer and monarch and when they aren't on to take action.
Taking advantage of otherwise generous guildmates (loot, tinkers, etc)
Hoarding a buff bot and just generally wasting tapers/plats.
Looting the few remaining "Red" players in your guild (basically intentionally ignoring the rules).
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<< You could do the same with a guild boot list, but the whole idea sounds ridiculous and smacks of paranoia. How does a player 'grief a guild'?? >>
One of the reasons I wrote StartMeUp was to make sure a certain player hadn't snuck back into the guild, that enjoyed casuing mayhem on the two times he managed to get into the allegiance. Various ways a person can grief a guild.
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Well Arch, I read that thread and now I know EXACTLY what you are talking about - I, too, have a major problem with "The One Who Cannot Be Named". My squelch list is full of character names of TOWCBN, but it's amazing how he appears on new accounts all the time. Does he have an endless supply of cash or what?
This is a problem that Turbine needs to take responsibility for, they have access to everyone's IP address, no? And they should perma-ban that IP in a case like this, mulitple instances of long-term griefing that affects everyone's play environment.
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<< This is a problem that Turbine needs to take responsibility for, they have access to everyone's IP address, no? And they should perma-ban that IP in a case like this, mulitple instances of long-term griefing that affects everyone's play environment. >>
Banning an IP address works, if the person's IP address never changes. For the most part mine doesn't, but it has from time to time. It could work though. Ban the credit card they are using too. If they want to apply for dozens of credit card (and drive their credit rating down), let them.
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Chazcon posted:
Well Arch, I read that thread and now I know EXACTLY what you are talking about - I, too, have a major problem with "The One Who Cannot Be Named". My squelch list is full of character names of TOWCBN, but it's amazing how he appears on new accounts all the time. Does he have an endless supply of cash or what?
This is a problem that Turbine needs to take responsibility for, they have access to everyone's IP address, no? And they should perma-ban that IP in a case like this, mulitple instances of long-term griefing that affects everyone's play environment.
Actually I think he just has an edless supply of retards who think he is "cute" and "funny" and "lend" him accounts.
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Maddy_ACEDL posted:
<< This is a problem that Turbine needs to take responsibility for, they have access to everyone's IP address, no? And they should perma-ban that IP in a case like this, mulitple instances of long-term griefing that affects everyone's play environment. >>
Banning an IP address works, if the person's IP address never changes. For the most part mine doesn't, but it has from time to time. It could work though. Ban the credit card they are using too. If they want to apply for dozens of credit card (and drive their credit rating down), let them.
True, but getting Turbine to do anything is almost pointless.
Hence my new motto ... "Plugins, to do what Turbine should have done long ago."
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This one looks easy. Will do.
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Allegiance officers of the world...I give you: Virindi Booter!
http://questers.polarism.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=16312
Next?
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Excellent
Thank you very much.
If I may suggest a few things for the next version ...
1) An Icon with a big boot. 
2) A "start/stop" button.
Otherwise, it's PERFECT.
Once question. What is the maximum number of people that you can have in the list?
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This is what I posted on the Harvestgain Server, a nice little plug for your plugin.
Tired of griefers swearing into your guild and annoying your people in /a chat? Wish that Turbine would expand the "ban" list so that you can counter people who have access to more accounts than even Arch Magi?
Well here is the answer to your problem ... automatically give them the boot with Virindi Booter - 1.0.0.0
http://questers.polarism.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=16312
Install this little program on any machine that is logged in for a long period of time (buff bot, portal bot, greeting bot, etc) and make sure the bot is either the monarch or a guild officer with "booting" privilages, and start adding names. It will start a count down timer then cycle through the list of people you don't want in your guild and one by one, boot them (the entire account) out of your guild. Keep it running, and even if they swear back in, it will be only a matter of time until they are "out of your hair" again.
Dishwasher safe, and Buff Bot approved.
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Dishwasher safe, and Buff Bot approved.
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Actually, I had one further suggestion. The ability to generate a log file and append to that file with the date and time that a particular in the list was booted.
Then you could see who and how often are trying to get in, and thus the Monarch could use the limited number of "/allegiance ban" commands more tactfully.
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>Actually, I had one further suggestion. The ability to generate a log file and append to that file with the date and time that a particular in the list was booted.
>Then you could see who and how often are trying to get in, and thus the Monarch could use the limited number of "/allegiance ban" commands more tactfully.
You just want it to log whenever it successfully boots someone?
How does the successful boot message work? Does it display a different message for each char, like this:
Attempting to boot XYZ (account).
XYZ has been booted.
ZZZ has been booted.
b has been booted.
Or does it just tell you about the one char you named? Either way, if I knew the exact text that appeared I could add a log function easily. Wait...I just realized I have a monarchy of level 5s on Darktide, I'll go check it out now 
Edit:
x character[s] from CHARNAME's account have been booted from the allegiance.
If the char does not exist, it says nothing.
I'll get to work...got to go somewhere first though.
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Okay, released v.1.1.0.0. There's now a start/stop button, and whenever someone is successfully booted a line is added to bootlog.txt in the plugin directory with the char info and the date/time.
http://questers.polarism.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=16312
Draw a good boot icon, Magi...16x16. 
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Well, so far I haven't caught it booting anyone yet, but I mainly just added what was already in our ban list. We are now in the process adding dozens of other "known accounts" ... just in case.
This is what I get back when it does not find someone ...
0 characters from <persons name>'s account have been booted from the allegiance.
I have seen this message when it does find someone ...
1 characters from <persons name>'s account have been booted from the allegiance.
"You just want it to log whenever it successfully boots someone?"
Yes, that will be fine. I'll install the new version tomorrow and keep testing.
I'll come up with a 16x16 icon tomorrow when I'm bored at work ... instead of trolling.
So far, so good. It's been up and "booting" for 24 hours straight, and doesn't seem to mess with the ElTank buff bot in the least. Even when it is casting spells on someone.
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<< Hence my new motto ... "Plugins, to do what Turbine should have done long ago." >>
Turbine should have added Combat Macros? I don't think so.
There is a difference between a plugin doing something, and how it does it, compared to how Turbine has to do something. Plus you toss priorities opn top of that. What percentage of users do you think are using this plugin? Is that something worthwhile for Turbine to spend resources on?
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> What percentage of users do you think are using this plugin?
Given that it only took me an hour to design, write, test and upload it I'd say the cost was relatively low. But really, what's wrong with the current system? It's much better to be able to make things the way you want than to have things already made for you, but in annoying ways.
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That is your cost and development time. You didn't have to worry about integrating it with existing code, doing testing against the code base, prioritize it against other requests and bug fixes, etc.
Just pointing out there is a difference between writing plugins for AC and in adding something to the AC client itself. I encourage people to write plugins that stay within the CoC and work around some of the annoyances in AC.
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That is your cost and development time. You didn't have to worry about integrating it with existing code, doing testing against the code base, prioritize it against other requests and bug fixes, etc.
Just pointing out there is a difference between writing plugins for AC and in adding something to the AC client itself. I encourage people to write plugins that stay within the CoC and work around some of the annoyances in AC.
You're right, it would have taken LESS than an hour.
Before:
Int MaxNumberOfBannedUsers = 32;
After:
Int MaxNumberOfBannedUsers = 100;
(Yes, I know this may not be the EXACT code, but you get my point.)
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<< Hence my new motto ... "Plugins, to do what Turbine should have done long ago." >>
Turbine should have added Combat Macros? I don't think so.
Where in this thread was a combat macro mentioned? Maybe the small part about not using it as a "keep alive" plugin, but that was to shut people like you up before they even got started. Seems I failed in that. But if Turbine had done their job before, there would be no need for this plugin.
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Yeah, because that really all that is in the code. I'm rolling my eyes here.
AC stores everything in the SQL db as a blob, so they have to expand the maximum blob size, add code to load and save the new, differently sized blob, test that to make sure it works, and then change the lookup in the server when someone swears into an allegiance.
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<< Where in this thread was a combat macro mentioned? >>
""Plugins, to do what Turbine should have done long ago."
Combat macroing is done via plugins, do you think this is something Turbine should have done long ago?
<< Seems I failed in that. But if Turbine had done their job before, there would be no need for this plugin. >>
Expanding the ban list is just a band-aide fix, it isn't getting to the root of the issue. Turbine could do better by working on better tools/controls for a monarch and dealing with griefers in a harsher manner.
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Expanding the ban list is just a band-aide fix, it isn't getting to the root of the issue. Turbine could do better by working on better tools/controls for a monarch and dealing with griefers in a harsher manner.
No kidding, but this is the "AC Utilities" forum.
Back on topic, here are 2 icons for you V ...
http://archmagi.tloc.com/images/boot.ico - 32x32 8b
http://archmagi.tloc.com/images/boot2.ico - 16x16 8b
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Make sure to put someting nice in virindis stocking this year arch magi
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Oh, trust me, Virindi will be getting a nice stocking stuffer from me this year.
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<<Where in this thread was a combat macro mentioned? Maybe the small part about not using it as a "keep alive" plugin, but that was to shut people like you up before they even got started.>>
For the record, this plugin can NOT be used to prevent Tank from timing out. It calls invokechatparser, which doesn't 'press' any keys. Tank requires you to press keys.
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I just finished creating some nice installers for both VCS and Virindi Booter. They're on my plugin site:
http://questers.polarism.com/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=7
By the way, it was also updated with a boot-ish icon 
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Query:Could this plug-in be modified to allow more than 2 officers in an allegiance?
IE: Have a buffbot with officer powers and allow specified character access to the bots officer commands?
It would seem to be more useful to larger allegiances and differing timezones
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<<Query:Could this plug-in be modified to allow more than 2 officers in an allegiance?
IE: Have a buffbot with officer powers and allow specified character access to the bots officer commands?
It would seem to be more useful to larger allegiances and differing timezones>>
That sounds like a good idea, but I'm not sure if it should be a part of this plugin or a completely different plugin...I'll think on this. I can definitely make something that does this.
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Virindi-Inquisitor posted:
I just finished creating some nice installers for both VCS and Virindi Booter. They're on my plugin site:
http://questers.polarism.com/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=7
By the way, it was also updated with a boot-ish icon
Kewl, I'll load that tomorrow. I'm burnt out after 9 hours of playing today.
So far, version 1.1.0.0 works great. No crashes, and seems to be working without a hitch.
BTW, with the new installed, do I have to do anything special to uninstall the old version?
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<<BTW, with the new installed, do I have to do anything special to uninstall the old version?>>
Yeah.
1) Open Decal, select the plugin and click remove.
2) Delete the plugin files. (except your logs and config if you want to save them of course)
Okay, so that's not really that special.
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I would think that the easy way to deal with this, from turbine's side, would be the following:
If you boot someone from your clan with the boot command, the boot is permenant, or until such time as you use an allow command.
Problem solved
Anyone care to take it to turbine? If not, I have a friend at work that knows someone there, will see if he can pass the suggestion along.
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<<If you boot someone from your clan with the boot command, the boot is permenant, or until such time as you use an allow command.>>
Uh, that would take up even more database space than bans...
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I took this issue to the Turbine boards before I even came here asking for a solution. After about 4 pages of going back and forth, and 2 ignored PMs, I looked for a solution here and viola, it's done.
http://forums.ac.turbinegames.com/showthread.php?t=26999
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interesting 8)
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