Lil-Blub
Posts:
????
Registered:
????
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 0
User ID: 0
|
Subject:
Possible to make a remote desktop for AC for mutiple clients?
|
I know this will begin by the question of a flame war about Eltank/Lifetank...
Is it possible to make a remote desktop for AC for multiple clients?
I am thinking more of the lines of multiple tradebot. I have so much stuff to sell, 5 mule accounts worth FULL 300%+ BU.
I want purchase additional accounts soon and create a trade bot, start with one, then move to the next one until most of my stuff is sold and I can reduce accounts. 
Now, at one time I could be running up to 3 computers with a trade bot. I would love the ability to run all 3 trade bots with like a remote desktop program for AC... Not a full out remote desktop that is a memory hog and slows both systems down.
This would be just directly with AC.
Please don't start by flaming about UCM/ACM and stuff like that. I do support it and ACM quite often. I love not having sore fingers and wrists/neck.  That’s my choice once again. It should not have an effect on this post.
But again, no flamewars/flames directed at me or other people in this post. I just want to see if anyone believes this could be possible.
Locked: flames
-----signature-----
|
|
Link to this post
|
Virindi-Inquisitor
Posts:
6,908
Registered:
Nov 18, '01
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 6,646
User ID: 511,923
|
Subject:
Possible to make a remote desktop for AC for mutiple clients?
|
|
Streaming full video of 3D mode takes a ton of bandwith at the resolutions AC runs at. If all you want to do, though, is monitor what is happening based on a few bits of status information, such as text in the text box, and then perform simple actions...yes. Not only is that possible but I'm pretty sure Lifetank already lets you do that through IRC.
-----signature-----
Virindi --- ****Virindi Plugins FAQ**** http://www.virindi.net/wiki/index.php/Virindi_Plugins_FAQ http://www.virindi.net - Virindi Tank, Follower, Integrator, Reporter, VCS5, XPHelper, Item Tool, HUDs, etc... Decal Core Dev - http://www.decaldev.com
|
|
Link to this post
|
Lil-Blub
Posts:
????
Registered:
????
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 0
User ID: 0
|
Subject:
Possible to make a remote desktop for AC for mutiple clients?
|
|
Not talking about lifetank if you read it all. (no flame)
-----signature-----
|
|
Link to this post
|
Virindi-Inquisitor
Posts:
6,908
Registered:
Nov 18, '01
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 6,646
User ID: 511,923
|
Subject:
Possible to make a remote desktop for AC for mutiple clients?
|
|
I read it, it wasn't clear exactly what you wanted to DO with your remote control. If it was respond to questions from people...
-----signature-----
Virindi --- ****Virindi Plugins FAQ**** http://www.virindi.net/wiki/index.php/Virindi_Plugins_FAQ http://www.virindi.net - Virindi Tank, Follower, Integrator, Reporter, VCS5, XPHelper, Item Tool, HUDs, etc... Decal Core Dev - http://www.decaldev.com
|
|
Link to this post
|
Krackcode
Title: Protectorate
Posts:
23,752
Registered:
Oct 25, '00
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 21,904
User ID: 51,083
|
Subject:
Possible to make a remote desktop for AC for mutiple clients?
|
|
I know people that remoet from work, but i don't know about multiples...
-----signature-----
Expert Bassist, Guitarist and Drummer: Krackâ„¢
GH & RBv1&v2
|
|
Link to this post
|
Zegeger
Posts:
974
Registered:
Apr 27, '01
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 965
User ID: 92,000
|
Subject:
Possible to make a remote desktop for AC for mutiple clients?
|
http://www.realvnc.com/
Note that even over a network the refresh rate is not going to very quick and you have nearly 0 movement control, so using it to UCM would not only be against the CoC but pretty stupid.
-----signature-----
Zegeger - HG - 246 - Axe AgentZ - http://decal.zegeger.net "Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy." - Edgar Bergen "Imagination is more important then knowledge." - Albert Einstein
|
|
Link to this post
|
-Prismatic-
Title: Keeper of the Ratings
Reg Thread Offendr
Posts:
160,294
Registered:
Nov 18, '02
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 159,796
User ID: 739,411
|
Subject:
Possible to make a remote desktop for AC for mutiple clients?
|
I use VNC to manage my server over my network, it's fine for desktop use but man does it lag bad in games.. Imagine the screen refreshing but as it moves down the screen refreshing it splits up into about inch thick bits of refreshed screen, each one different than the last... Gets really ugly
Never used it before on a Gigabit network though, might be a lot better.
-----signature-----
_____.........--------===* The More You Know. Take what you want from this life. It's yours. Weight Loss Since Jan 1, 2011: Start: 263.1lbs - Current: 185.5 lbs Lost to Date: 77.6 Lbs. http://www.endomondo.com/workouts/uXH
|
|
Link to this post
|
BigPoppaTink
Posts:
????
Registered:
????
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 0
User ID: 0
|
Subject:
Possible to make a remote desktop for AC for mutiple clients?
|
|
all he is wanting to do is to run multiple trade bots....sheesh
-----signature-----
|
|
Link to this post
|
Lil-Blub
Posts:
????
Registered:
????
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 0
User ID: 0
|
Subject:
Possible to make a remote desktop for AC for mutiple clients?
|
Ok to prove I could care less about UCM/ACM, which I stated I "do" do...
Make the program with NO gui?
Would that serve its purpose? I mean think of all those command lines and such having to be solely written for that reason.
-----signature-----
|
|
Link to this post
|
Lil-Blub
Posts:
????
Registered:
????
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 0
User ID: 0
|
Subject:
Possible to make a remote desktop for AC for mutiple clients?
|
|
I have been researching, terminal services MIGHT work
-----signature-----
|
|
Link to this post
|
Drakier
Posts:
????
Registered:
????
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 0
User ID: 0
|
Subject:
Possible to make a remote desktop for AC for mutiple clients?
|
Terminal Services honestly isn't much better (if at all) than VNC.
they both do the same thing for the most part. I don't know if Terminal Services would perform any better, not to meantion, it isn't free.
-----signature-----
|
|
Link to this post
|
Lil-Blub
Posts:
????
Registered:
????
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 0
User ID: 0
|
Subject:
Possible to make a remote desktop for AC for mutiple clients?
|
|
See I know other games had MUD clients and such, I would love that ability. I think with all the current tech it could easily be done. They already made AC2D at one point.
-----signature-----
|
|
Link to this post
|
Drakier
Posts:
????
Registered:
????
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 0
User ID: 0
|
Subject:
Possible to make a remote desktop for AC for mutiple clients?
|
|
AC2D was a complete AC Client remake, and was quickly abandoned... for reasons I'm sure you can imagine.
-----signature-----
|
|
Link to this post
|
-Zalliun-
Posts:
13,296
Registered:
Jan 30, '02
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 13,116
User ID: 638,564
|
Subject:
Possible to make a remote desktop for AC for mutiple clients?
|
-I don't know if Terminal Services would perform any better, not to meantion, it isn't free.
aside for 2 clients at one time on w2k server and 3 on w2k3 server and one on xp you are right it isnt free.
but dead slow is also correct
-----signature-----
Fake it till you make it
|
|
Link to this post
|
-Gol-
Posts:
????
Registered:
????
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 0
User ID: 0
|
Subject:
Possible to make a remote desktop for AC for mutiple clients?
|
|
VNC is much faster than Terminal Services....
-----signature-----
|
|
Link to this post
|
Arch_Magi
Title: The Lord of Chaos
Posts:
106,493
Registered:
Oct 31, '02
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 102,020
User ID: 733,498
|
Subject:
Possible to make a remote desktop for AC for mutiple clients?
|
|
I've used Tight VNC for control of single instances of AC machines that are both on my local network and from remote via a T1 or Hotel connection. I mainly do it when I am in Las Vegas for 2 weeks and want to keep the buff bot up for the guild. It works, but using VNC (or anything ... I've even tried Citrix) is slow because of all the graphics updates, but it does work enough for me to maintain a buff bot.
-----signature-----
(none)
|
|
Link to this post
|
DruidArcher
Posts:
????
Registered:
????
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 0
User ID: 0
|
Subject:
Possible to make a remote desktop for AC for mutiple clients?
|
|
What's wrong with AC DualClient or whatever it's called. Maybe it's not remote but you could set up two trade bots on one computer and use another one for a trade bot and your main account to play on. Maybe I'm missing the point. I don't know. Maybe it wouldn't be to hard to make it remote. *shrug*
-----signature-----
|
|
Link to this post
|
Lil-Blub
Posts:
????
Registered:
????
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 0
User ID: 0
|
Subject:
Possible to make a remote desktop for AC for mutiple clients?
|
Any other suggestions as to why we could not make it work?
How about a mudd client?
Would be very good.
-----signature-----
|
|
Link to this post
|
Honkis_HG
Posts:
????
Registered:
????
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 0
User ID: 0
|
Subject:
Possible to make a remote desktop for AC for mutiple clients?
|
42" Plasma, Quad Splitter, KVM switch, Multi-tap video cards on three computers.
1A goes to quadrant Upper Left
2A goes to quadrant Lower Left
3A goes to quadrant Upper Right
KVM Video Out goes to Lower Right
1B - 3B are KVM switch inputs.
You could monitor all three sources at the same time, while playing/trading or ACMing via whatever is selected as the source with your KVM switch. This works in theory. It would be beneficial to get three 3 + 1 quad box, with three minis on the left hand side and a large image on the right. Lend me $8,000 and I'll get back to you.
-----signature-----
|
|
Link to this post
|
Virindi-Inquisitor
Posts:
6,908
Registered:
Nov 18, '01
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 6,646
User ID: 511,923
|
Subject:
Possible to make a remote desktop for AC for mutiple clients?
|
>42" Plasma, Quad Splitter, KVM switch, Multi-tap video cards on three computers.
Why not just use 4 ancient monitors from the 90s?
-----signature-----
Virindi --- ****Virindi Plugins FAQ**** http://www.virindi.net/wiki/index.php/Virindi_Plugins_FAQ http://www.virindi.net - Virindi Tank, Follower, Integrator, Reporter, VCS5, XPHelper, Item Tool, HUDs, etc... Decal Core Dev - http://www.decaldev.com
|
|
Link to this post
|
Hazridi
Posts:
8,386
Registered:
Mar 15, '01
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 8,277
User ID: 74,558
|
Subject:
Possible to make a remote desktop for AC for mutiple clients?
|
A 42" plasma screen is 16:9. You will get less square area per inch of diagonal size with a 16:9 display.
42" plasma - 740 in^2 (20x37)
4x20" LCD - 768 in^2 (16*12*4)
The main thing, though, is that even if you get a high def panel (1366x768), and you split it into four regions, each region still only gets 341x192 pixels, which is hardly adequate.
Same problem with a projector. You'd be much better off with 4 separate screens, though a single plasma display certainly has some extra wow factor. Still, a projector is cheaper and a 100" screen is a lot of wow factor.
-----signature-----
Hazridi of WE, VT, HG, SC Decal Core Dev - http://www.decaldev.com - Beta at http://www.decaldev.com/beta
|
|
Link to this post
|
Lil-Blub
Posts:
????
Registered:
????
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 0
User ID: 0
|
Subject:
Possible to make a remote desktop for AC for mutiple clients?
|
Lend me $8,000 and I'll get back to you.
I love it.
Would'nt a software resource being available, seem to make more sense?
I am talking about running a tradebot not ACM, I stated I do ACM, but I am looking for a way to UM TRADEBOT/S.
Omfg I think im going to just pull the plug on this idea, goto school and then when I learn to program, just school you all.
Or you developers could just give it a whack.
Heck I would pay bucko bucks for this.
-----signature-----
|
|
Link to this post
|
Drakier
Posts:
????
Registered:
????
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 0
User ID: 0
|
Subject:
Possible to make a remote desktop for AC for mutiple clients?
|
Lil-Blub... I don't think you fully understand the technical ramifications of what you're asking.
1) you cannot rebuild the client to be just a text based AC client. There are only a few people I know of who are even capable of ATTEMPTING this, and none of them are going to do it.
2) You can build a plugin to help manage the tradebot through some /commands but it is not the same and you will NOT have "full control" over the bot
3) Your best bet is to use what was already suggested in this thread. VNC or other Remote Desktop software is your best bet to get the management you want.
If you build something better, great, but I wouldn't hold my breath for that.
-----signature-----
|
|
Link to this post
|
-Prismatic-
Title: Keeper of the Ratings
Reg Thread Offendr
Posts:
160,294
Registered:
Nov 18, '02
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 159,796
User ID: 739,411
|
Subject:
Possible to make a remote desktop for AC for mutiple clients?
|
If you want a mostly smooth vid of your screen from a remote location you could also install a vid capture card in your computer and run from the S-VID(if you have it on your card)OUT on your card to the S-VID IN on the capture card and restream that out you could potentially connect to the computer with VNC, and view the screen with a media player connected to the streaming vid of the game.
but im sure the latency on the vid would be killer (bad killer, not good )
-----signature-----
_____.........--------===* The More You Know. Take what you want from this life. It's yours. Weight Loss Since Jan 1, 2011: Start: 263.1lbs - Current: 185.5 lbs Lost to Date: 77.6 Lbs. http://www.endomondo.com/workouts/uXH
|
|
Link to this post
|
Bowdiddly
Posts:
????
Registered:
????
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 0
User ID: 0
|
Subject:
Possible to make a remote desktop for AC for mutiple clients?
|
We can land men on the moon, and bring them back alive. We have now "shot" a projectile from a satillite and successfully hit a comet moving at 66 thousand miles per hour and streamed the data back to earth from millions of miles away. We have sent spacecraft outside of our solar system and taken pictures of planets more than 2 billion miles from earth, landed a small craft on an asteroid, sent crafts to the moons of saturn and successfully landed in a hostile alien environment. We have REMOTE control rovers driving around on Mars...
But your right, we probably couldn't do anything this complex...
-----signature-----
|
|
Link to this post
|
Virindi-Inquisitor
Posts:
6,908
Registered:
Nov 18, '01
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 6,646
User ID: 511,923
|
Subject:
Possible to make a remote desktop for AC for mutiple clients?
|
You're a bit limited by the fact that your budget for this is $0...surely it cost them much more to put people on the moon 
-----signature-----
Virindi --- ****Virindi Plugins FAQ**** http://www.virindi.net/wiki/index.php/Virindi_Plugins_FAQ http://www.virindi.net - Virindi Tank, Follower, Integrator, Reporter, VCS5, XPHelper, Item Tool, HUDs, etc... Decal Core Dev - http://www.decaldev.com
|
|
Link to this post
|
Lil-Blub
Posts:
????
Registered:
????
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 0
User ID: 0
|
Subject:
Possible to make a remote desktop for AC for mutiple clients?
|
Quote:
Date Posted: 2:30pm Subject: RE: Possible to make a remote desktop for AC for mutiple clients?
We can land men on the moon, and bring them back alive. We have now "shot" a projectile from a satillite and successfully hit a comet moving at 66 thousand miles per hour and streamed the data back to earth from millions of miles away. We have sent spacecraft outside of our solar system and taken pictures of planets more than 2 billion miles from earth, landed a small craft on an asteroid, sent crafts to the moons of saturn and successfully landed in a hostile alien environment. We have REMOTE control rovers driving around on Mars...
But your right, we probably couldn't do anything this complex...
I literally dropped on the floor laughing.
That was good. Like I said, no one WANTS to do this.
That is the problem. I am sure if it was for UCM we could see it, they made a program named labs, which is "top secret" and it did something like this.
-----signature-----
|
|
Link to this post
|
Drakier
Posts:
????
Registered:
????
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 0
User ID: 0
|
Subject:
Possible to make a remote desktop for AC for mutiple clients?
|
I'm not talking "we" as in the collective world.. I'm talking "we" as in the members of this board..
and I highly doubt any of "us" put anyone on the moon or launched anything from space.
I'm sure there are PLENTY of people in the world with the technical ability to do this... just not very many that play AC. Certainly not someone with little to no programming experience.
Your argument is flawed in that you somehow assumed that when I said it wouldn't be done that I was somehow talking about everyone in the human race. If you know anyone with the technical ability to write a fully functional MUD client for AC that isn't one of the people I already know who could do it (current decal devs) then by all means, let me know. It certainly isn't going to be you or lil-blub.
-----signature-----
|
|
Link to this post
|
Virindi-Inquisitor
Posts:
6,908
Registered:
Nov 18, '01
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 6,646
User ID: 511,923
|
Subject:
Possible to make a remote desktop for AC for mutiple clients?
|
|
Remember Drak...not only must it be a textmode client for AC, but it also must fully emulate the Decal API. After all, the reason he wanted to do this was to run a tradebot.
-----signature-----
Virindi --- ****Virindi Plugins FAQ**** http://www.virindi.net/wiki/index.php/Virindi_Plugins_FAQ http://www.virindi.net - Virindi Tank, Follower, Integrator, Reporter, VCS5, XPHelper, Item Tool, HUDs, etc... Decal Core Dev - http://www.decaldev.com
|
|
Link to this post
|
Drakier
Posts:
????
Registered:
????
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 0
User ID: 0
|
Subject:
Possible to make a remote desktop for AC for mutiple clients?
|
quite right you are.. I figured if they were able to create the text-based client, they'd be able to create their own API to run plugins with.
*shrug*
-----signature-----
|
|
Link to this post
|
Lil-Blub
Posts:
????
Registered:
????
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 0
User ID: 0
|
Subject:
Possible to make a remote desktop for AC for mutiple clients?
|
Then go away trolls?
Maybe someone with enough balls will take it on.
We know where you stand, and it's not with the men.
-----signature-----
|
|
Link to this post
|
Myrdhyn
Posts:
????
Registered:
????
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 0
User ID: 0
|
Subject:
Possible to make a remote desktop for AC for mutiple clients?
|
If all the clients are windows xp then technically terminal services is "free"
Just do a remote desktop connection, once configured correctly on the client to let it connect.
I've done it, and not recommended if you are going to be doing it remotely as you said, unless you have a OC48 into both locations. I have tried VNC, Terminal Services(remote desktop), and dameware. The TS was actually the best of them all believe it or not, RDP is configured fairly decently as a protocol to work over remote connections which is probably why and it not as concerned with mouse movement and some other graphics as VNC and Dameware are.
If you had a real budget then the ICA protocol that Metaframe uses would most likely work much better but as I said you would need a good budget for that
Having managed bots remotely I can honestly say your better off writing a skunkworks script that runs in the background that allows you to ask questions of the bot and get responses, or even reboot the machine or restart the bot remotely. Then you log in another account and just manage it with a set of /tells that only respond to a specific user, or set of users.
-----signature-----
|
|
Link to this post
|
Drakier
Posts:
????
Registered:
????
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 0
User ID: 0
|
Subject:
Possible to make a remote desktop for AC for mutiple clients?
|
what? I'm a troll because I'm being realistic?
I'm sorry if you don't know the technical details of what you're asking. I'm sorry that you don't know how to program. I'm sorry that you want someone to do something for you even though there are plenty of other viable alternatives..
tell me where ANY of those things are MY problem however.
-----signature-----
|
|
Link to this post
|
Lonsgard
Posts:
13,167
Registered:
Jan 5, '02
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 12,827
User ID: 594,610
|
Subject:
Possible to make a remote desktop for AC for mutiple clients?
|
"and I highly doubt any of "us" put anyone on the moon or launched anything from space."
I've gotten pretty close...
-----signature-----
(none)
|
|
Link to this post
|
Virindi-Inquisitor
Posts:
6,908
Registered:
Nov 18, '01
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 6,646
User ID: 511,923
|
Subject:
Possible to make a remote desktop for AC for mutiple clients?
|
The price for Apollo capsules and Saturn V rockets was $83 billion in current dollars.
I'm sure you can make a really sweet AC client replacement for $83 billion...
-----signature-----
Virindi --- ****Virindi Plugins FAQ**** http://www.virindi.net/wiki/index.php/Virindi_Plugins_FAQ http://www.virindi.net - Virindi Tank, Follower, Integrator, Reporter, VCS5, XPHelper, Item Tool, HUDs, etc... Decal Core Dev - http://www.decaldev.com
|
|
Link to this post
|
Bowdiddly
Posts:
????
Registered:
????
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 0
User ID: 0
|
Subject:
Possible to make a remote desktop for AC for mutiple clients?
|
|
Moderated
-----signature-----
|
|
Link to this post
|
Hazridi
Posts:
8,386
Registered:
Mar 15, '01
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 8,277
User ID: 74,558
|
Subject:
Possible to make a remote desktop for AC for mutiple clients?
|
This thread makes me laugh.
Apparently you guys have a real issue with being told by someone who actually KNOWS what's going on that it's not feasible at the current time.
If you had a budget to hire real programmers and pay them, it would be possible. You don't. And none of you have the programming expertise to do so, and no one is going to do it on a whim, especially when people who actually know what they're doing have given up on their alternate AC clients. So shut up about it already.
-----signature-----
Hazridi of WE, VT, HG, SC Decal Core Dev - http://www.decaldev.com - Beta at http://www.decaldev.com/beta
|
|
Link to this post
|
pookybear348
Posts:
????
Registered:
????
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 0
User ID: 0
|
Subject:
Possible to make a remote desktop for AC for mutiple clients?
|
|
im not sure about the terminology..but it sounds like if you have windows xp,a nvida videocard capable of dual monitors,can even use drakiers to copie the clients. in the start button you can point and click and let xp do the rest,it has that right in there creat multiple user/desktops. you can have 4 toons on 1 puter pushing 2 monitors. i can have 4 toons on 1 puter on the same screen atm but bot has to b on top to work. the old actrade had to b on top too . i had to put buff bot on bottom screen and trader on top so actrade could use the mouse.
-----signature-----
|
|
Link to this post
|
Bowdiddly
Posts:
????
Registered:
????
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 0
User ID: 0
|
Subject:
Possible to make a remote desktop for AC for mutiple clients?
|
Hazridi posted:
This thread makes me laugh.
Apparently you guys have a real issue with being told by someone who actually KNOWS what's going on that it's not feasible at the current time.
If you had a budget to hire real programmers and pay them, it would be possible. You don't. And none of you have the programming expertise to do so, and no one is going to do it on a whim, especially when people who actually know what they're doing have given up on their alternate AC clients. So shut up about it already.
I would just like to thank you for proving my point! The additude is completly uncalled for from you guys. Do it or don't do it, but shut-up about how smart your not allready!
-----signature-----
|
|
Link to this post
|
Drakier
Posts:
????
Registered:
????
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 0
User ID: 0
|
Subject:
Possible to make a remote desktop for AC for mutiple clients?
|
it's not about how smart WE are.. and I didnt' call anyone stupid.
I simply said that no one here has the knowledge to do what you're asking. The ones that DO have the knowledge aren't going to do it. I certainly don't have the knowledge to do it. I'll be the first to admit I couldn't do it.
Why don't you do the same thing? I wasn't giving any attitude or demeaning anyone. I simply said that you aren't going to make a full client replacement.
There are plenty of other alternatives that have already been meantioned.. I even made sure to clarify that in one of my posts.. most likely VNC or another Remote Desktop program is the best bet at what they want.
YOU'RE the one giving attitude and causing problems. Sorry to be a realist (once again), but building a 2D client just is not going to happen. No one here (including myself) has the knowledge or ability to do that (other than a few people in the ACDev circle). I'm not calling anyone stupid with that. I'm saying that accomplishing that is a MAJOR undertaking. Not something to be taken lightly.
There are also LEGAL problems with creating an alternate client. (just as there are with creating emulators or alternate servers). I didn't want to get into listing ALL of the reasons this isn't possible, which is why I very FIRST said that the projects were abandoned. I see now that you WANT me to list all the reasons why.. just saying it isn't possible on this board isn't enough.
seriously.. I'm not trying to argue or pick a fight, or demean anyone, or cause any sort of problems. I'm just being realistic and trying to steer this conversation to something a little more realistic. Creating a plugin to manage a tradebot is something that is realistic. I even suggested that as my #2 in the list of 3 things. #1 of course being that creating an alternate client is not possible.
If you want to create a plugin, have fun. It's possible. It's even possible for a programming novice. Go wild.
If you want to create an alternate client, have fun with that. Good luck. Chances are you won't do it, but who am I to stop you? I'm not trying to imply I'm the best at programming, or I'm really anything special in programming, but I do know a little bit about it.. professionally. Chances are, if *I* can't do it, then a novice hobbyist programmer won't be able to do it.
-----signature-----
|
|
Link to this post
|
-Prismatic-
Title: Keeper of the Ratings
Reg Thread Offendr
Posts:
160,294
Registered:
Nov 18, '02
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 159,796
User ID: 739,411
|
Subject:
Possible to make a remote desktop for AC for mutiple clients?
|
|
nm
-----signature-----
_____.........--------===* The More You Know. Take what you want from this life. It's yours. Weight Loss Since Jan 1, 2011: Start: 263.1lbs - Current: 185.5 lbs Lost to Date: 77.6 Lbs. http://www.endomondo.com/workouts/uXH
|
|
Link to this post
|
Drakier
Posts:
????
Registered:
????
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 0
User ID: 0
|
Subject:
Possible to make a remote desktop for AC for mutiple clients?
|
Pris: he's one of the guys I was talking about... and he has no plans to finish or make an alternate client.
I didn't want to name names because I didn't want him being bothered by people saying "omg.. cud u maek me a cleint plz?!?"
he was already bugged enough when he first made it.. he got QUITE a few offers for the client AND the source (separately). He denied them all (as he should have).
-----signature-----
|
|
Link to this post
|
-Prismatic-
Title: Keeper of the Ratings
Reg Thread Offendr
Posts:
160,294
Registered:
Nov 18, '02
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 159,796
User ID: 739,411
|
Subject:
Possible to make a remote desktop for AC for mutiple clients?
|
|
I edited my post
-----signature-----
_____.........--------===* The More You Know. Take what you want from this life. It's yours. Weight Loss Since Jan 1, 2011: Start: 263.1lbs - Current: 185.5 lbs Lost to Date: 77.6 Lbs. http://www.endomondo.com/workouts/uXH
|
|
Link to this post
|
Drakier
Posts:
????
Registered:
????
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 0
User ID: 0
|
Subject:
Possible to make a remote desktop for AC for mutiple clients?
|
Thankya =]
I'm sure he'll appreciate that.
I know I do, and I'm not even him.
thanks again.
-----signature-----
|
|
Link to this post
|
-Prismatic-
Title: Keeper of the Ratings
Reg Thread Offendr
Posts:
160,294
Registered:
Nov 18, '02
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 159,796
User ID: 739,411
|
Subject:
Possible to make a remote desktop for AC for mutiple clients?
|
|
Yeah, I dont want to give anyone any un-do stress
-----signature-----
_____.........--------===* The More You Know. Take what you want from this life. It's yours. Weight Loss Since Jan 1, 2011: Start: 263.1lbs - Current: 185.5 lbs Lost to Date: 77.6 Lbs. http://www.endomondo.com/workouts/uXH
|
|
Link to this post
|
Maddy_ACEDL
Posts:
12,311
Registered:
Feb 23, '00
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 11,836
User ID: 12,026
|
Subject:
Possible to make a remote desktop for AC for mutiple clients?
|
Bowdiddly, give me the money that it took to land a man on the moon and return him safely and I'll build this tool for AC.
-----signature-----
|
|
Link to this post
|
Lil-Blub
Posts:
????
Registered:
????
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 0
User ID: 0
|
Subject:
Possible to make a remote desktop for AC for mutiple clients?
|
I can speak a foreign language you can't speak.
You can write in a language I can't read..
Get my drift?
Here let me break down the code for you:
YOU
ARE
NOT
MASTERS
OF
THE
UNIVERSE!!!
You are people/geeks/nerds/code monkeys/mama’s boys’ know some code/language that we do not. This is "WHY" we look up to you...to make the so called “Impossible†… possible.
I am sure anyone who has half a brain can learn it. I am attempting that.
When I do so, I might just have the balls to take it on.
Until then I guess we go without since you are not willing to even "THINK" of wasting your time on something like this.
This is only a hobby!! … I know… Keep feeding us the lines.
Forget I/WE asked. It is not in your best interest I see this. Fair Enough. No sniveling when it becomes a reality and you don’t get any credit or compensation for it. K?
Have an awesome code monkey day!
-----signature-----
|
|
Link to this post
|
Maddy_ACEDL
Posts:
12,311
Registered:
Feb 23, '00
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 11,836
User ID: 12,026
|
Subject:
Possible to make a remote desktop for AC for mutiple clients?
|
<< When I do so, I might just have the balls to take it on. >>
Post here when you got it built.
-----signature-----
|
|
Link to this post
|
Drakier
Posts:
????
Registered:
????
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 0
User ID: 0
|
Subject:
Possible to make a remote desktop for AC for mutiple clients?
|
*sigh* you just don't get it.
It's not something you just "do".
I already admitted.. *I* can't even do it. There are only a few people I know who have the skill and knowledge to do it. I am not one of them. None of the people I know with enough skill to do it will. There are legal issues with it.
are you even READING what I'm saying here?
I've said it 3 times now. It is not legal to make an alternate client. It is not easy to make an alternate client even if it were legal. It takes a lot of combined knowledge of encryption schemes, ASM skills, coding skills, network packet analyzing skills, etc. It takes YEARS of practice in ALL of the above to even be able to come CLOSE to being able to know enough to do something with it to make an alternate client.
I never have claimed to be better than anyone. I never said I was the master of the universe. I have a skill for coding. you have a skill for language. Everyone has their talents. That isn't the point of this.
as for compensation, I don't want compensation. I had no part in it, why would I want any credit? You act as if I feel I deserve something I don't.
The point is, YOU will not be able to do it anytime soon, and no one I know of will do it for you.
And what's with the namecalling (as if calling me a code monkey hurts my feelings)? when did I ever call you names? When have I ever called ANYONE names? Just because I said you don't have the skill to do it right now, I was not implying in any way that you were stupid or not capable of learning how to. Just that you currently do not possess the knowledge. I'd say 99.9% of the people on this board do not possess the knowledge to.
Ask ANYONE on this board who can code worth anything. Ask them how possible it would be for them to create an alternate client on their own (or even in a small team). You may get a few people who could get a little ways in, but I don't think you'd get anyone who could do it completely (even in a small group).
-----signature-----
|
|
Link to this post
|
Lil-Blub
Posts:
????
Registered:
????
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 0
User ID: 0
|
Subject:
Possible to make a remote desktop for AC for mutiple clients?
|
Look at the post message Drakier.
Possible to make a remote desktop for AC for mutiple clients?
I did not ask for altering the client as far as I remember, only you mentioned it.
It's a great way to skirt the issue though.
Stick to the subject.
Quote Maddy=
Date Posted: 10:30am Subject: RE: Possible to make a remote desktop for AC for mutiple clients?
<< When I do so, I might just have the balls to take it on. >>
Post here when you got it built.
K long as you promise to stay off my threads?
-----signature-----
|
|
Link to this post
|
Drakier
Posts:
????
Registered:
????
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 0
User ID: 0
|
Subject:
Possible to make a remote desktop for AC for mutiple clients?
|
and I already said many times that there are plenty of remote desktop software solutions available.
VNC
Terminal Services
Remote Desktop Sharing
PCAnyhere
These are all software solutions that are MUCH better than anything that anyone here could write.
With that in mind, none of them are going to perform well in trying to actually SEE AC running. They are very slow and hard to control. You'll probably have to try them all to get an idea of which one you like the most.
I'm not skirting the issue. The issue was already resolved a LONG time ago. There are plenty of Remote Desktop programs currently available already.
Also.. YOU are the one that brought up the MUD client and the AC2D program. I only said that a MUD client and AC2D wasn't possible on this board (which is what started the arguments).
-----signature-----
|
|
Link to this post
|
Lil-Blub
Posts:
????
Registered:
????
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 0
User ID: 0
|
Subject:
Possible to make a remote desktop for AC for mutiple clients?
|
|
K so you and I are done?
-----signature-----
|
|
Link to this post
|
Drakier
Posts:
????
Registered:
????
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 0
User ID: 0
|
Subject:
Possible to make a remote desktop for AC for mutiple clients?
|
|
I was done a long time ago until I was lashed out at.
-----signature-----
|
|
Link to this post
|
Lil-Blub
Posts:
????
Registered:
????
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 0
User ID: 0
|
Subject:
Possible to make a remote desktop for AC for mutiple clients?
|
|
K thx bye.
-----signature-----
|
|
Link to this post
|
Maddy_ACEDL
Posts:
12,311
Registered:
Feb 23, '00
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 11,836
User ID: 12,026
|
Subject:
Possible to make a remote desktop for AC for mutiple clients?
|
<< K long as you promise to stay off my threads?>>
Only if you post to private boards that I don't have access to.
-----signature-----
|
|
Link to this post
|
Drakier
Posts:
????
Registered:
????
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 0
User ID: 0
|
Subject:
Possible to make a remote desktop for AC for mutiple clients?
|
bye?
no one said I was leaving.
just that I was finished arguing with you as long as you weren't arguing with me.
there really is no need for attitude.
-----signature-----
|
|
Link to this post
|
Hazridi
Posts:
8,386
Registered:
Mar 15, '01
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 8,277
User ID: 74,558
|
Subject:
Possible to make a remote desktop for AC for mutiple clients?
|
Drak: you know how uppity they get...
I notice no one is mentioning the years of research required to get people to the moon. They didn't just hire English majors and say, hey, go learn some physics so we can get to the moon. We'll need rocket propulsion, so learn that too.
Be realistic. You don't have the required knowledge -- it would take you years to assemble it provided you have the even intelligence and tenacity necessary to acquire it. And after you learn all that programming, you'd actually be able to *start* working on what you're suggesting. You can't learn reverse engineering unless you know how to forward engineer.
Chop chop -- you've got a lot of work ahead you, best get to it.
-----signature-----
Hazridi of WE, VT, HG, SC Decal Core Dev - http://www.decaldev.com - Beta at http://www.decaldev.com/beta
|
|
Link to this post
|
Lil-Blub
Posts:
????
Registered:
????
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 0
User ID: 0
|
Subject:
Possible to make a remote desktop for AC for mutiple clients?
|
How they get?
Kind of interesting how you put yourself in another category above "Human"...
Like I said "Masters of the Universe."
Maddy:
Only if you post to provate boards that I don't have access to.
You need to check spelling on the Provate Boards K?
You won't fit in well with Haz and Drak if you don't spell correctly, and the masters of the universe won't win.
You guys love HE-MAN admit it!
-----signature-----
|
|
Link to this post
|
Maddy_ACEDL
Posts:
12,311
Registered:
Feb 23, '00
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 11,836
User ID: 12,026
|
Subject:
Possible to make a remote desktop for AC for mutiple clients?
|
<< You need to check spelling on the Provate Boards K? >>
Provate? I have no idea what you mean. You on cold medication or something?
-----signature-----
|
|
Link to this post
|
Lil-Blub
Posts:
????
Registered:
????
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 0
User ID: 0
|
Subject:
Possible to make a remote desktop for AC for mutiple clients?
|
|
Edited. I was watching. /\
-----signature-----
|
|
Link to this post
|
Maddy_ACEDL
Posts:
12,311
Registered:
Feb 23, '00
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 11,836
User ID: 12,026
|
Subject:
Possible to make a remote desktop for AC for mutiple clients?
|
Then you know the dangers (and the weakness of your arguments) if you resort to pointing out typos.
But given your demonstrated personality type, I would guess that is par for the course for you.
-----signature-----
|
|
Link to this post
|
Lil-Blub
Posts:
????
Registered:
????
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 0
User ID: 0
|
Subject:
Possible to make a remote desktop for AC for mutiple clients?
|
|
Due to you edting your posts, shows how much of an idiot you are sir. LOL
-----signature-----
|
|
Link to this post
|
Maddy_ACEDL
Posts:
12,311
Registered:
Feb 23, '00
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 11,836
User ID: 12,026
|
Subject:
Possible to make a remote desktop for AC for mutiple clients?
|
<< Due to you edting your posts, shows how much of an idiot you are sir >>
I always correct myself when I make a mistake, only an idiot wouldn't.
And thanks again for showing the type of person you are.
-----signature-----
|
|
Link to this post
|
Hazridi
Posts:
8,386
Registered:
Mar 15, '01
Extended Info (if available)
Real Post Cnt: 8,277
User ID: 74,558
|
Subject:
Possible to make a remote desktop for AC for mutiple clients?
|
Only Drak among us even remotely cares about being nice anymore, and you've managed to alienate him.
Personally, I couldn't care less how much of a god complex you think I have -- I'm right, and ANYONE with enough experience to comprehend what a task is this will agree with me. It's not something you can just 'learn' on a whim, sorry. Most professional developers aren't even up to it -- the number of programmers knowing how to reverse engineer C++ code from disassembly is quite low. This is WAY out of 'code monkey' range (as you so succinctly labelled me). Code monkeys are the programmers who occupy the lowest level of the software engineering hierarchy.
Aside from that, I'm not even sure why you're using geek or nerd as a derogatory term. All the geeks I know are proud of being geeks, and most nerds are competely apathetic of the opinions of lesser beings such as yourself.
-----signature-----
Hazridi of WE, VT, HG, SC Decal Core Dev - http://www.decaldev.com - Beta at http://www.decaldev.com/beta
|
|
Link to this post
|
