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AoE had a group/battlegroup forming at SoM. TNO zooms in, ignores the fact that we were clearly there first, and deliberately starts the encounter. What was worse on top of this for me, was being told after the fact that my char deserved it less because I was only RR2, and that I was in a "PvE" guild.

Jod, their GM, admitted that it was a "slightly mean" thing to do, but apparently they didn't feel they needed to wait their turn.

I'm curling up with a good book now, to end my evening on a happy note happy

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That kind of thing would be extremely annoying. =/

 

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Your fault.

Engage the encounter next time.

Uncourteous? Probably.

 

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Last night I also witnessed a case of TNO jumping into the Dreamsphere encounter even tho it had already been started by a small group.

I won't name the players as I believe they were not the "real" chars, but it stills brings the name of TNO down a stop further.

Personally I have a lot of respec for TNO and their (Semi-AFK) GL's, but I see at no point that any guild, realm rank or anything should have preference over an artifact that is already camped.

As mentioned above, ToA is annoying and frustrating enough without getting into an issue of camp stealing.

Have respect for your fellow Hibs please grin

 

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my char deserved it less because I was only RR2, and that I was in a "PvE" guild.


OUCH a kick to the sack !

 

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wow... and to think i thought of them as a good guild...., if that's true sounds more like assholes, an screw that PvE guild thing, just because someone doesn't have the time or the ability to get into an RvR guild, doens't mean they don't deserve it, it's not like that encounter is never up. plain

 

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And its not like anyone pays more a month for this game than the next person.

 

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yea i have to agree if its true thats just wrong

AOE pays there cash each month to play

 

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but hey, they wouldn't listen to me anyways, why? i'm in a "PvE" guild tongue altho still nothin but <3 for Littlebus love

 

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There's a 2nd side to every story...

It's simple, we showed up to do SoM, we were prepared, she was not, so we killed it, end of story.

Parking a bot at an encounter gives you no right to claim it. She isn't the only person in the world who's been waiting for weeks for SoM.

As for the rr2 comment. She was the one who in tells afterwards brought up the speech about helping out the realm. All I did was give an honest reply, no insult intended...

 

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Explain the other encounter that was brought up then, stealing the dreamsphere as a small group is doing it ?

 

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Know nothing about it to be honest. Must not have been online at that time

 

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Since it's so frustrating to camp certain encounters, would be common and costless courtesy to put up a BG and do the encounter with whoever happens to be there; even if it's just a bot, it clearly indicates there's someone inc for that encounter.

But yet, courtesy is too often put aside in the wonderful world of DAoC, thx to stressful encounters and ppl getting greedy abut teh ubah l00ts.

bleh.

 

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Engaging an encounter that is not being done by someone else at the time is not wrong or against the TOS....


Although, hitting an already engaged encounter and trying to steal the kill spam out of spite is...




PS: /wave Solamnia, yeah most people are that way, so like others if I am ready to do the encounter and its up, I could care less if some bot is parked there or people are "waiting" on their guild to show up. Sorry, guess I am just a jerk =(

 

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Lol TNO.. Yestreday a grp tried to kill Erami (2 TNO members were present), they died to it, Postal released, so a few people any myself proceeded to pull him (no one was attacking him at the time, they were all dead). Postal came back, re'zed up and they porceeded to try and take back the encounter. But alas they failed, and we got the loot..

Postal goes on about respect... and they come and gank SoM... GG

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LOL i was there i was playing Greyfire, just as a side note greyfire is NOT my char it is someone elses, if you wanna take it out on me, use the right char. now onto the next thing, we came there you were just standing there doing NOTHING except for screaming about not taking it, you had noone visible inc, and we had a full group, then once we pulled the encounter, you started to hit our mobs, the ones that we hit first, that we pulled that we had aggro from, that is against the TOS

 

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Ok, so 2 TNO memebers makes it a TNO group now??? I know nothing about the Eramai thing, but if Postal did what you say then he was wrong.....



Oh well, he got over it quickly instead of posting on VN about blah blah they stole something that isn't mine in the first place....

 

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An artifact encounter is not yours until you have started it. It is yours until you die in the attempt.

A lesson I had to learn the hard way, as there is little courtesy in this world, much less this game. Only thing you can do is move faster to an encounter.

 

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/agree with Ash...



BTW, how yah been bud? I haven't been able to rvr much lately with getting the uber template finally done...Now, if Fire Island would cooperate and Traldor would drop his belt then I would be gtg...


Also, I believe Steep said something about a nerf to Ceremonial encounter a little while ago. Anyone know the chance to drop arti now? I have killed 5 of them with no drop now =(

 

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I wouldnt be happy if it happened to me, but like others have said, the encounter is fair game for anyone untill it's engaged in combat.

The worst encounter is sun/moon belt. People will wait around untill you pull the 2nd last mob left. They wait untill its almost dead, then pull and kill the last mob, and get the credit. Hate that one.

 

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Yep, first on scene with group that actually starts the encounter gets initial rights. Bot camping looking at it is not enough even if you have people incoming. It's a painful system but really the only fair way to deal with matters since mythic refuses to lower the respawn timers on some of this stuff.

I can't even imagine what the Cloudsong camping alb must be like. o.O

 

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There was no bot-parking going on. I had been camped there myself for eight hours, actively watching that spot. The second it popped, I told my guild.

Six of us were there when you started the encounter. We were there first, and you pulled anyway. *shrug*

 

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fight fight fight!!!!

 

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haha what a gimp server, I will keep looking.

 

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you had your 3 chars logged in there, dont lie

 

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<haha what a gimp server, I will keep looking.>

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I was just about to pull the SoM with a full group when 2 pallies, PBT and a cleric ran through us and started the encounter. (I was running stealthed to the statue.)

They continued to complain about how they had the encounter stolen from them many times and didnt care about stealing it from others. Meanwhile, no one in the group can activate the SoM. I knew they were there just to farm it.

After the encounter was done, they logged. Five minutes later, it repopped. We killed the mobs and got the cloak.

The encounter instapopped again and guess who logs in. The same pallies, PBT and cleric bot. To bad we had already started the encounter again.

We pulled two cloaks down in 30 minutes. One went to myself and the other went to Casique. Not to a merchant for 20 PP plain

During the whole time, I never said a word in any channel to them. My guildees had a field day with /s and /send though.

Point is, do not worry about getting something in a game. You will have your day and it will be that mutch better when you get to stick it to those who ruined your time.

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They probably radared the encounter tongue

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"my char deserved it less because I was only RR2, and that I was in a "PvE" guild."


what that really meant was you arent the bigger nerd.

 

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Hawkes, you know you would rather see someone using the thing to RvR then have them PvE with it....



Such a shame to see people win such good items on raids and such then I never see them out in RvR...

 

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That quote reminds me of the famous line by Phos referring to a guild as mickey mouse.

GG elitism.

In all fairness, I was not there witnessing tells so I retract my statement although I had to say it tongue

And yes, seeing rare loot on PvEers hurts a little. You are a liar if you deny it shock

 

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"Hawkes, you know you would rather see someone using the thing to RvR then have them PvE with it....



Such a shame to see people win such good items on raids and such then I never see them out in RvR..."



Elic please dont justify people being dicks -_-

 

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THIS JUST IN TNO STEALS SoM


NEWS AT 11:00











BIG NASTIE!

 

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Why am I not goint to stick up for my guildmates??

They were ready to do the encounter and the other people were not so they did it....


AoE pissed and moaned to one of our GM's so he got a little annoyed and sent an honest response back to them oh well life goes on. They come crying to VN wah wah he stole my toy...



Someone being a dick?? Nope, not in my book, but this is all a game and it matters not in the real world. So are you calling me a nerd cause im somewhat of a high RR Hawkes? I appreciate it. I will let my friends know that tonight....

 

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to not see how saying something like that makes you a dick is being ignorant.


so i said something equally as retarded.

Thanks for playing Dark Age of Camelot.

 

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im a nerd




but im only RR4







BIG NASTIE!

 

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I am a RR7L1 nerd.

GoGo 10K a week!

 

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Ppl gets the artifacts fairly, they make of em the use they like better.

I see no shame on using an item in PvE rather then PvP. There's more then just one side in DAoC, both attract ppl more or less.

/shrug




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Well if you only had 6 for the encounter and TNO was ready then you were SOL.

But hijacking dreamsphere in the middle of the encounter is nasty business imo.

 

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"my char deserved it less because I was only RR2, and that I was in a "PvE" guild"

....

R2 Bard, I guess I need to deactivate all my artis and give it to someone that outranks me by RPs......forget the fact that I just rerolled, or that this guy that started the thread might have needed it to finish his template so he can START rvring and get that higher RR you hold in such high regard. When Free RPs first got 50 on Jathin, you think he'd be okay with telling him "Sorry, no cloudsong for you... It's going to an Eld that is higher RR so I deserve it more."

That's one of the most ignorant statements I've ever heard out of a member of TNO, a guild I respect highly... and considering the number of Cyce chestbeats that have blown up in his face, that's saying something. tongue

 

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cyce chestbeats... now theres something we dont see everyday :P

jod is my rl best friend... and his comment ranks up there

happy

glad my accounts deactivated i suppose... granted this post is kinda funny

 

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The crazy thing is everyone trying to get SOM

lmao Good Luck getting RS 3 of 3 if you are poor u have no chance lmao.

 

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I should make a poll entitled, "Do you miss Cyce's TNO Chestbeats?"

( ) Yes
( ) No
( ) TNO, Didn't you know?!
( ) <3 Eggplant

That'd be great if I was an insider...

 

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LOL by which you mean on TNO'dar?

 

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^^^
wtf?

 

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Cyce to send kari cookies as restitution.

edit: as not in

 

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LOL by which you mean on TNO'dar? "

 

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Someone wanna explain what happened with dreamsphere encounter? Both sides of story perfered.

 

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Imp they are prob talking about the time me anda ment had already killed 2 of the mobs, and some animist came over and was pulling the burning guys in an attempt to do the encounter........

 

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Getting shades 3 is hard?

I did 5 hours of straight farming when it dropped for me. You should /gc quit if you cannot get your guildees to help you once and a while. Especially if you drop what you are doing for them.

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Doesnt really matter what you post about people stealing a encounter , they seem to make up some BS excuse that makes me giggle.



Jod=still breast fed so fancy that

 

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Guess Hibs on this server just can't work together. If another guild beat you to the encounter but aren't ready yet, give them 5 minutes to activate the encounter. They were there first, if they don't take it in 5 min or they get wiped, its all yours. You don't have to be an @ss clown and just think your superior to every one cause your higher RR. Get a job and have a social life.. its much more fun.

 

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This is where they say they have a social life but they dont trust me.

 

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They have more rps then me therefore they have less of a life then me!


It's not possible they don't waste their play time sitting around doing nothing or anything though!

 

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"AoE had a group/battlegroup forming at SoM. TNO zooms in, ignores the fact that we were clearly there first, and deliberately starts the encounter. What was worse on top of this for me, was being told after the fact that my char deserved it less because I was only RR2, and that I was in a "PvE" guild.

Jod, their GM, admitted that it was a "slightly mean" thing to do, but apparently they didn't feel they needed to wait their turn."

I always loved Jod. Oh and if you havent engaged the mob/mobs then the encounter isnt started and is FFA :P

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I sympathize with the point of view that TNO showed up with a group ready to do the encounter while one random person is standing there trying to get a group together. There are no camps is DAOC, and if the encounter hadnt been started they are perfectly entitled to do it.

BUT - a gracious thing to do would be to add that person to your BG, let them help and give them a shot at rolling for the artifact. 1 person rolling against 8 TNO, the odds are still dramatically in your favor and instead of making an enemy you might have made a new fan.

 

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"The worst encounter is sun/moon belt. People will wait around untill you pull the 2nd last mob left. They wait untill its almost dead, then pull and kill the last mob, and get the credit. Hate that one."

How about this variation. Me and a guildy were doing BoM. A cleric (in our alliance even) came up and asked to join just for "encounter credit." I invite him but he is already grouped. We tell him to disband. On the last one, another group pulls it. I am glad my necro buddy was quick on the kill and got the key. We get the belt. As we get ready to leave, the cleric that joined us for credit ends up grouped with the people trying to steal the encounter. He even made the comment before he left "they were trying to steal the encounter" but he still grouped with them. hmmmm.

 

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Oh and the "gracious" thing to do, if there were 6 people there as Kari said, would be to ask how long till they pull. If they dont know or it is not really soon, tell them you are going to pull and invite them to the /bg.

Is what was done wrong? Who knows since there are two stories, but it still sounds rude regardless.

 

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I BLAME MYTHIC AND THEIR STUPID ARTIFACT ENCOUNTER SYSTEM WHICH CAUSE STRIFE AND DISCORD WITHIN A REALM!

Mythic to design better IMO.

 

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I hate TOA because of these reasons. I feel bad for smaller guilds who take more time to form up when an artifact is found to be up. Especially when even in my guild it might be 30 mins to an hour before people are done with whatever they are doing to help someone and we may still not have enough.

I just hate TOA.

 

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Yes, offering her the bg would have probably been the right thing to do, but the second we showed up she starts going ballistic in yells about how she's first in line.

Btw guys, don't get the impression that we ran straight in the circle and started the encounter either. When we showed up we waited about 3 minutes for an incoming bot only to have the guy on the bot LD. So I myself then proceeded to load a bot, which was in DL, put it on pad, port to volcanus, then run to encounter and start. That entire time her 'group' was still nowhere in sight. We more or less said screw it and started it.

And when we did start the encounter and were working on the first mob, another 3 or 4 people showed up. I'm not entirely convinced that they could have completed it themselves anyways, but that's not the issue here...

And about the comment, you guys don't know the context that it was in either. There was a good 20-30 minutes of arguing/whining/pleading in tells afterwards and she picks one half of one random comment and throws it up on the boards. Was it a little mean? Maybe. But after 20 minutes of politely responding to insistent pleading, where she tried everything from threats to begging. When she finally started going off about not helping the realm by stealing people's artifacts, I was fed up enough I gave the reply "Having SoM on a rr7 would benefit the realm more than a rr2". Btw, there was no flame of any sort about a PvE guild.

Another note, after she gave up she sent someone else to whine/plead/beg with me. A guy named Stealhead (guildy?). In tells with him I got him to admit that she had planted a bot there for 7 hours, not actively camp it. Wish I would've enable chat log or taken SS's, but oh well, I was doing all this while we were fighting battler etc.

And finally the Dreamsphere issue... I know nothing about it. I'd like to hear some more concrete details instead of just flames/accusations.




 

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I personally would just like more accusations...they are much more entertaining.

 

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lol, yeah flames are entertaining.

Here's another note that crossed my mind. If she had been 'actively sitting there for 8 hours'. Why in the world was her group taking so long to get there.
But even in the case that the statue spawned 1 second before we got into clip range, we spent no less than 10-15 minutes getting bots before we were ready.

Another thing that crossed my mind. Would've mentioned this in last post, but I just woke up thanks to phone call after 5 hours of sleep bleh...
While my bot was inc, I did /who AoE and there was 5 people online, one in cursed forest, 2 in connacht, and her bot and herself in typhons. Sure didn't look like she had a guild group incoming. Yes they did show up after we started it so must've been anon, but still, are we supposed to stand by when we're ready on an encounter we really want when for all we know she might be waiting for people to even log on.

And the bg was out of the question, there was too much friction at that point. Like I said, she went haywire when we showed up.

 

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<<There was no bot-parking going on. I had been camped there myself for eight hours, actively watching that spot. The second it popped, I told my guild.>>

That means nothing because how is anyone supposed to know whether or not a particular person was actually sitting there actively WATCHING an encounter the whole time or whether they actually did call up their guildies right away or that they actually have enough incoming to get it. Too many unknowns.

Better to let the people who get there faster with a group ready to go start up the encounter. It's an objective test for things and removes the guess work. Also the faster encounter get done the faster the turnover for them to respawn again. It's a crappy situation but that the life on a high population server where mythic refuses to lower timeers on respawns.

All that said, the low RR comment is stupid especially if someone is trying to outfit a new character for RvR.

 

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SoM is an evil encounter, poor hygelac waited what 14 hrs for the spawn, not a bot just him sitting there! Well at least its a 100% drop not like some other encounters.

To the whole stealing encounter issue, SoM can be done with 6 people, probably would have been better to pull when you saw tno standing there. Oh well I dont care its a pos cloak and rs 3 goes for like 10p on lance you are better off without it!

 

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RS3 is not as hard as some people in hib think. My guild has put 4 complete RS books together in about 6 or so hours worth of time and we were just trying to PL folks. Organization and persistence ftw.

 

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yes Bjor that happened to us a few weeks back. . .

one FG (okay 5 + 3 bots) of Angels of Albion members (i know, no knows or cares about us small guilds) was trying to kill a fully leveled Battler (note: he was fully leveld with graves all around when we got there). ..to no avail.

a BG of Zen came up to do the encounter (was like 2+ groups) and not only waited to make sure we werent going to restart the encounter again (we were busy trying to rez the last group memeber still). . .but they offered to have us join them!

The only qualifier is that they wanted to call sleeves for one of their members. . . which was fine since we were there for credit (and a chance at the arti). Long story short, not only did they let everyone roll for the arti (all chars, not just those who could use. . .which benefitted us because only 3 in our groups could have used), but even let the lvl 44 who ended up winning the arti roll as an equal share (ie the same /rand number).



All in all the encounter with Zen (which I've had pently of other positive ones in truth) really made my day.. . .The good will fostered that day still hasnt gone forgotten!





^^^ we need more stories on VN like THIS happy

 

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"you had your 3 chars logged in there, dont lie"

yes, i did, which means that i was not bot parking as you and your guildies think. bot parking is leaving an alt/bot somewhere, while you go off and do something else. i had all 3 accounts there... i think that's called camping, which is a very different thing.

"Cyce to send kari cookies as restitution."

mmm, cookies! pecan sandies, please! grin

"... or that this guy that started the thread might have needed it to finish his template so he can START rvring and get that higher RR you hold in such high regard."

yes, thank you.

the 'guy' that happened to start this thread is female in real life happy but yes, i am wearing all SC'd gear already and the piece i'm missing for my template is the SoM. I happen to have all three scrolls, and I was all set to activate and level it, so I could RvR. Now I've got to waste more time trying to get it.

 

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"but the second we showed up she starts going ballistic in yells about how she's first in line. "

"There was a good 20-30 minutes of arguing/whining/pleading in tells afterwards and she picks one half of one random comment and throws it up on the boards."

"we spent no less than 10-15 minutes getting bots before we were ready."

Please ignore my previous rude comment.

"Would've mentioned this in last post..."

I am glad you didnt mention it. It would have meant less VN drama. wink

 

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"All in all the encounter with Zen (which I've had pently of other positive ones in truth) really made my day.. . .The good will fostered that day still hasnt gone forgotten!"

I may not see eye-to-eye with Trab, but there was never a doubt in my mind that they put the good of the realm first. GJ!

 

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TNO I for one am disgusted at your behavior at the SOM encounter. We at Free Rps believe in fully upholding respect, honor, dignity and pride during PVE.

I am considering disbanding from the alliance for this unholy act.

 

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"TNO I for one am disgusted at your behavior at the SOM encounter. We at Free Rps believe in fully upholding respect, honor, dignity and pride during PVE."

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"I am glad you didnt mention it. It would have meant less VN drama."

Happy to be of service.

"I happen to have all three scrolls, and I was all set to activate and level it, so I could RvR. Now I've got to waste more time trying to get it."

Same position I was in. But bottom line, my group was ready, yours was not. Blame the system not the people. Btw, you were the one who violated the TOS by attacking after we started encounter.

"All that said, the low RR comment is stupid especially if someone is trying to outfit a new character for RvR."

See how polite you are after putting up with a half hour of tells. All the responses were polite up until that point. Probably should've just went straight to /ignore instead of replying, but hey it was 2AM happy

 

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"TNO I for one am disgusted at your behavior at the SOM encounter. We at Free Rps believe in fully upholding respect, honor, dignity and pride during PVE.

I am considering disbanding from the alliance for this unholy act."

Understand the entire situation before you make a judgement. If we were in the wrong, that means that TNO can take its 8 guild bots, plant them at the 8 most popular encounter sites and then proceed to tell anyone who comes by that we have a group incoming while we proceed to do all 8 encounters at our leisure. If this is actually the case then I will admit that we were in the wrong.

 

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JOD2LEARN SARKASM EYE ARR ELL

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Thieving pve encounters? well I never

 

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There is no such thing as a camp. Plain and simple.

 

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<<"All that said, the low RR comment is stupid especially if someone is trying to outfit a new character for RvR."

See how polite you are after putting up with a half hour of tells. All the responses were polite up until that point. Probably should've just went straight to /ignore instead of replying, but hey it was 2AM >>

Hehe, fair enough. TNO has always been good peeps to me. wink

 

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^^ but there is such a thing as respect. Too much gray area in this one though. both have good points.

Edit: for Yuhri

 

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best part about this thread so far is jodah not realizing ghettoo was joking.

 

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TNO definately good people in my book. Never had a problem with them. And yeah after being yelled at /screamed at/ complained too in tells enough you begin to stop being polite. I know from experience ( i do phone tech support for a living) that the longer an issue goes on be it in tells or like me on the phone the harder and harder it is to remain polite and patient especially when the other person is either not listening or just trying to complain.

 

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Since they did that to you, GO ASS JAM TNO, FREE RPS every frigging time in emain.

Ass jamming is not in rvr rules gtfo if you gonna say something about that.

And as to the people who whine about ass jamming. Go bend over in middle of emain and scream once you get it in the ass without vaseline. thats what you do here anyways. thats the truth.

gg thx for playing Dark ages of camelot. But yeah gtfo for people who use arti's like SoM Battler CoZ GoV CS for pve use they need to go bend over in emain too.

 

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^^^ brilliant, simply brilliant.

 

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All the h8 is maddening I tell you...maddening.

 

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i agree with the respect thing. I have as many many people will attest always tried to NEVER KS and or camp steal (even though there is no camp if someone is fighting in an are i will not touch it without asking them first) the problem is harldy anybody else is this way and it gets to the point where you HAVE to stoop to that level if you EVER want to achieve anything (artis/drops/anything) just my 2 cents on the matter. But good luck to all partys involved and much <3

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straightupmenace, did you eat glue as a child?

 

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Yeah well I don't talk to Free Rps that much, so I don't know their humor. I'm normally the quiet guy. Throw in the fact that I'm still insanely tired even though I've been up for 2 hours now makes it hard to pick up on humor.

But after the 'rude' comment I became polite again. I did end the tell session with 'Thanks for Playing Dark Age of Camelot.'



 

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patreen, no i didnt eat glue, but did your daddy molest you as a child that you asked me that question?

 

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this one time... at bard camp

 

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I will bet dollars to donuts that this would not even make it to the VN if it was any other guild besides TNO and the obviuosly other big guilds.

Secondly, it would have never made it to the boards if the original poster realized there could be nothing gained from qqing publicly about a game.

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Who in their right mind would take Donuts over Dollars - besides Homer J?

 

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acery if you care about what happens on VN boards, you need help.

 

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Ace gets easily torqued up - make sure you are very PC around him. grin

 

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No I do not care what happens on the boards. That is why I never qq about anything ingame or here.

The people who cry about imaginary items that are gained in a video game need help.

That and the fact that someone was able to bash TNO was my intent.

You may read farther into what I said, but honestly, there is nothing there to read.

 

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You still haven't addressed the Dollars/Donuts issue...

 

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Sometimes, when you are really hungry, you want a donut because you just dont know where that dollar was tongue

 

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So all you punks who believe ppl should not jump on 1:1, not assjam, or leech etc etc should not complain and b##ch and moan when ppl do. After all its not agasint the rules.

Its funny how VN is full gankers crying and moaning about how they got rolled in rvr by a zerg, leeched, assjammed etc etc and in pve they themselves have ZERO respect for their realmmates and steal camps, steal credit and artifact while another gourp is in the middle of doing the encounter etc etc.

Stelaing a camp may not be against the rules but it is very disrespectful and is against the community standard rather than the rules. If the person is willing to camp many hours he/she certainly do deserve that artifact. If he/she was in the process of getting a group together wait it out and see if they come or even ask how long.


HOWEVER if you are farming artifacts so you can just sell it and REALLY inflated prices and prevent ppl who ACTUALLY use it from getting it you should go to EFFIN HELL.

 

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"And about the comment, you guys don't know the context that it was in either. There was a good 20-30 minutes of arguing/whining/pleading in tells afterwards and she picks one half of one random comment and throws it up on the boards. Was it a little mean? Maybe. But after 20 minutes of politely responding to insistent pleading, where she tried everything from threats to begging. ..."

I most certainly argued and whined quite a bit. Yes, it was a good 20-30 minutes. If politely asking for the artifact (it never hurts to ask!) was "pleading" in your eyes, then I'll agree with that also.

However, I have far too much dignity to beg. I asked for it politely. You told me to talk to Grey. Grey said he'd sell it to me for 40p. At the moment I'm 38.5p short, otherwise I'd have taken him up on the offer, just so he would have had to do it again.

Furthermore, if you knew me as a person, you would know that I abhor threats.

"Another note, after she gave up she sent someone else to whine/plead/beg with me."

No, I didn't send anyone after you. I had no idea that he was talking to you, and I don't need anyone to present my case.

When you write something truthful, I'll admit it and agree to it. When you write something false, I'll refute it. That's who I am.

As for the "random" comment, you said that he deserved it more than I did. I said don't treat me like a second-class citizen. To steal the encounter was one thing. To look down on me, based on my realm rank, definitely crossed the line. I'm too bright to randomly pick comments. My post/comment stands.

 

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But if you are wagering said dollar against said donut, you do know ehere the dollar is... unless you are in fact buying said donut with said dollar...

... ok, I'll accept that.

 

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I lost basically any trust in kari's cause after reading this:

"the 'guy' that happened to start this thread is female in real life"

What relevance does this have at all, except trying to get sex-starved 16 year old males to agree with you based on your gender alone?

 

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Sometimes a donut is more expensive than a dollar.
In that case, Id take the donut over the dollar.
But Im trying to lose weight so maybe I would take the dollar.
But maybe I could give the donut to a cop to get out of a speeding ticket, then I would take the donut.
But I could use that dollar to buy some gas so I could drive to the donut store.
But maybe I could meet a chick and be like, 'Hey Kari, wanna donut? Come back to my place for some sweet donut lovin."
But maybe I could go to a county fair and take the dollar to the kissing booth and get a kiss for a dollar.

Ok, I still dont know if I would choose the donut or the dollar. Life is so comfoosing.

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to find where the dollar is check this site


http://www.wheresgeorge.com/

enter the dollar bill serial number and it will tell you tongue

 

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I believe in common curtesy. I will not for instance, aggro 10 rocots to farm cash when they're lowbies trying to XP off of them, etc.

Secondly, when I show up to an encounter (I have done this in the past) I would ask if they have a group inc and give them 10 minutes to get here. If they cannot get people to port, zone, ect fto start, they are SoL.

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Why DO people bet dollars to donuts? That's a popular saying in this area, and finally I posed the question to my g/f's mother... "Why would you want to bet dollars to doughnuts anyways?"

She looked at me for a minute, perplexed, then went back to whatever she was doing.

 

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No camping a artifact does not make it theres, I disagree, But ready to go and kill the mob, and someone jumps in knowing you are there is a different story.

IMO now AoE should ass jam whoever stole SoM in emain everytime. And whoever cries about ass jamming , are bunch of Modred rejects.

But yeah one thing about Free RPS TNO is that they'll actuacly use the artifact in rvr, unlike others who just want ( oh look at my arti collection). for that type of shit.

VN boards is a another way to talk shit for people who are afraid to in the game. gg and thx for playing dark ages of camelot.

 

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"I lost basically any trust in kari's cause after reading this:

"the 'guy' that happened to start this thread is female in real life"

What relevance does this have at all, except trying to get sex-starved 16 year old males to agree with you based on your gender alone?"


Because I had mistakenly referred to her as a guy... I know if someone referred to me as a female, I'd correct them as soon as it were possible... I have a feeling you'd do the same thing.

EDIT: SUM-- What would make VN a friendlier outlet for trash talk? If I were the type, I'd be just as likely to call you out ingame as I am here.

 

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I feel that I have properly derailed this thread into an intelluctual debate over this curious yet oft used statement.

The DonuttoDollar Conspiracy: A way for the Fed to hike interest rates and healthcare fees? What role does Vegas play in all of this?

 

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Dollars to donuts means you wager everything that you own. There is no holding back so to speak. You bet your hard earned cash, your food and anything in between.

make sense?

It is sort of like saying that you are calling a bluff because you know that you would have to win the bet. Otherwise, I would just bet donuts grin

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I sense a PHAMZOR lock on this bad boy. Maybe even a play nice boyz...

 

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its like going ALL IN in no limit texas hold 'em

 

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But I don't eat donuts so they would never be part of my wager? Would I instead be betting dollars to bagels or perhaps some other edible treat?

EDIT: No farming here - I am trying to understand an age old saying that has never made sense to me... I am looking for enlightenment, here: on VNLance!

 

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OHHH.... "Dollars to donuts means you wager everything that you own. There is no holding back so to speak. You bet your hard earned cash, your food and anything in between."

I never realized it was stating a range... I thought it was akin to saying "I'm gonna bet MY dollars to YOUR donuts". At that point I'd be saying "Yeah I think I'm on the safe end of this bet".

 

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It could mean that as well, but who wants to win donuts? I would rather wager my donuts to your dollars for the sure bet tongue

 

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I bought a doughnut and they gave me a receipt for the doughtnut... I don't need a receipt for the doughnut; I give you money and you give me the doughnut, end of transaction. We don't need to bring ink and paper into this.

I can't imagine a scenario that I would have to prove that I bought a doughnut. To some skeptical friend, "Don't even act like I didn't buy a doughnut, I've got the documentation right here... It's in my file at home..."

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I was going to make a really filthy donut comment then realized what I was doing so I'll leave that to someone else.

 

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Yup - this thread has been officially derailed.

 

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Probably for the best since this at least serves the all too important cause of humor. happy

 

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So lets get the post history here.

TNO sucks turned into "there is no camps in DAoC" turned into assjamming, then to "donuts."

P.S.

I spell my donuts like dunkin' donuts. :o

 

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That was my thinking, Maluv grin

Do you know that I haven't eaten a donut in over 6 years what with trying to be healthy and such?

Now muffins are an entirely different story...


EDIT: Assjamming to donuts is a bit scary.

 

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donuts?? i'm still waiting for my cookies! tongue

"I will bet dollars to donuts that this would not even make it to the VN if it was any other guild besides TNO and the obviuosly other big guilds."

I don't discriminate. Wrong is wrong, and I would have bitched and moaned about it, regardless of which guild pulled that stunt.

I respect camps. If someone is there before me, I silently say "damn it!" and then hope they'll need a few more people to help, who they'll allow to roll on it grin

 

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"patreen, no i didnt eat glue, but did your daddy molest you as a child that you asked me that question?"


keep coming with the stupid comments. they are making my day pass by faster.

 

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yes humor = good. I love topics like this no telling where they will end

 

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Hey now - no going back on topic! Respect the derailing... wink

Would you accept a muffin?

 

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Who said this topic could go back on topic?! I sure as hell did not -_-

 

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I still think the "breasts" and Anty threads were the best.

 

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Donuts, Muffins, Cookies, and Sweater Monkeys....

... I can definitely see a correlation.

 

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i /agree with Maluvin happy hehehe and dont forget the memories of the Ninjac threads

 

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i dont like it when people say the realm dont work together.. After all, AoE did help kill the last and half of the other sphynx for us =)

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did anyone even try out the


http://www.wheresgeorge.com/

link. Friend at work actually participates in this and he showed it to me. Find those dollars tongue

 

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Jod and his croonies were camping svasud gate the other night and I engaged them solo. I took out 2 or 3 and finally got caught by cc and killed. Jod and some other goofnut then precede to spam emote my corpse for a few minutes.

So yeah they are lame punks imo. It sucks to judge a entire guild on the actions of a few but being a jackass appears to be in the TNO charter.

 

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Are you guys talking about real bakery donuts, chain store donut (Dunkin Donuts, Krispie Kream, etc) or the lame boxed donuts? Also, full sized or mini? These things affect the value of the wager.

 

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I went looking for where's George and I found dollars to donuts:

Layman's meaning:

I'm so confident of my assertion, I'll bet DOLLARS which are measurably valuable TO your DONUTS which are worth much much less, in fact, shaped like zero's, and still feel that the long odds I have given are justified.

Original phraseology:

DOLLARS TO DOUGHNUTS (or donuts) - "The almost forgotten terms 'dollars-to-buttons' and 'dollars-to-dumplings' appeared in the 1880s, meaning 'almost certain' and usually used in 'I'll bet you dollars-to-buttons/dumplings.' They were replaced by 1890 with the more popular 'dollars-to-doughnuts' (a 1904 variation, 'dollars-to-cobwebs,' never became very common, perhaps because it didn't alliterate)."

From "Listening to America" by Stuart Berg Flexner (Simon and Schuster, New York, 1982).

 

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Online bullies...hahahaha TNO is ghey! Jackasses!! rofl
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BTW I don't feel complete without reading AT LEAST one loot squabble per week on VN.

thanks for providing me with that. An entertaining one, at that...

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How many donuts could you get for a dollar in 1890?

 

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I'm thinking more than three...

 

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"Jod and his croonies were camping svasud gate the other night and I engaged them solo. I took out 2 or 3 and finally got caught by cc and killed. Jod and some other goofnut then precede to spam emote my corpse for a few minutes.

So yeah they are lame punks imo. It sucks to judge a entire guild on the actions of a few but being a jackass appears to be in the TNO charter."

Are we jackasses for killing you or spamming emotes? If its killing you, well thats the reason we go to bk, stay behind guards if you dont wanna die. If its emotes... well spam humping /beg is just funny imo :P

 

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The phrase "Dollars to donuts" first appeared in the US around the time of the building of the continental railroad and was brought here by the Chinese. The actual phrase is "Dollars to dog nuts", dog nuts being a delicacy in some parts of China at some point. Supposedly, the stridently religious liked the concept of the phrase but were offended by the reference to canine testicles and simply changed it to "donuts", which they considered to be...umm...more palatable on a couple of different levels.

Interestingly enough the popular New England soup called chowder also has it's roots in ancient China. Apparently, when served a bowl of this fine soup, a patron asked the cook what was in it and the cook replied, "Chow...duh."

 

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Yeah being a virtual necropheliac is super cool.

Jod for president of Lance! OMG I want my guild to be cool like you...

 

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OMG, you should feel honored that you got the spam hump....


We don't do that to just anyone (we only let full members hump, no trial noobs allowed). It is reserved the the true tards of realms. Such as Garvee, Mithrandyr, Radarius, and others in like company...




PS: On original topic, get over it and move on. The encounter will repop in time and you can then kill it. And if you want to whine about having to wait and camp stuff I have killed Traldor 10x now and no belt. I have done fire island 25x and no ring. I have done ceremonial bracer 5x and no drop....

 

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Don't farm this thread sad . Only farm threads started by me this week.

 

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"OMG, you should feel honored that you got the spam hump...."

Obviously Im not TNO material. happy

 

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I was happy with the donut derailing but now this is just completely out of hand. I wash my hands of this thread.

/wash

 

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Come on Zedd. You KNOW you want to add a content filled comment on this thread. You can't resist it anymore than a cop can resist a donut.

 

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I'd have to go with the Donut.

 

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luckily with the donut shop in a cop car mod by monster garage, cops dont have to do without donuts.

 

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QQ, no one listens. Now I'm going to have to start a thread with baseless accusation of mistwraith radaring me.

Inc @Mistwraith - You radaring pos

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That does it for me:

If its emotes... well spam humping /beg is just funny imo

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TNO is like a magnet for jackasses. Always has been.

 

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^^ Anon poster ftw!!!




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"TNO is like a magnet for jackasses. Always has been."

so is alb lance....omg!

 

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"TNO is like a magnet for jackasses. Always has been."

so is alb lance....omg!

Actually its clear that hib/lance is OMG! In alb VERY few steal when ppl are camping. Of course there are exceptions but generally speaking.


and ya elic i am anon so i can fit my sig. Ppl who know me will know me. If you don't believe me, plz go through every post members of TNO have posted in the past and see for yourself and it will prove my point.

 

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"Inc @Mistwraith - You radaring pos"

I admit it. I have been using "CRAFDAR" to find my alchemy table for 2 days now.

WTB rvr group. QQ

On a positive note, I have finally found the last piece of loot in mission #1 of Thief 3, so I can now move on to mission #2.

 

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lol

 

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I don't know what Mist just said but you go girl .. keep crafting

 

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She needs CRAFDAR to find her alchemy table in the maze of wildlife inside her house.

 

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rude but legal =(

 

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"I don't know what Mist just said"

Hehe, sorry Cookie. I have 2 computers, so when I'm not watching movies or tv while crafting, I'm playing another video game, called Thief 3.

 

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Nice sweet ...

I got 2 good comps in my room too..

And TV with PS2 + XBOX when im crafting or bored..

When i want to talk on Vent or Troll Vnboards I use my laptop which is connected on my bed with DSL

 

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Mist to group with me anytime.
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"Actually its clear that hib/lance is OMG! In alb VERY few steal when ppl are camping. Of course there are exceptions but generally speaking."

Perhaps 'dumbasses' would be a better word then.

 

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An artifact encounter is not yours until you have started it. It is yours until you die in the attempt."


So it's okay to assjam in RvR but not PvE?

 

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Hah, worst encounter story ever.

I had been trying to get battler done (Alb Lance) for Dammekos, never could find him up or not insanely huge. I logged in and he was up level 1. I try and find some peeps to help me kill him when I learn that a group was gathering to do it. I ask them if I can join them for credit, that way I could just go buy the damn thing and move on.

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I get a tell from one of the other peeps guildmasters saying that it was fubar'ed of me to take loot when all I wanted was artifact credit. Minstrel on the raid wanted it for his alt, I told the GM that yeah all I wanted was credit until I had to get my people to come and in turn become the raid leader. He just wouldnt understand this concept and continued to call me a bad person for going back on my word, I told him to tell the minstrel to come to housing and I would drop the sleeves on the ground and be done with the whole issue. The Mins never showed up so I sold the sleeves. Artifact encounters always bring out the worst in people it seems.

 

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haha i never said alb/lance having smart players. Just said ppl don't really jack camps.

lolol i remember when you did battler on dammekos. Those infs got reallly pissed that the melee chain automatically went to you even when you were the only melee chain wearer in the group rofl.


I remember doing SoM w/ my alliance. Some alliance peeps were begging for help so we all went. lol their main group makeup was 1 paladin, 2 minstrels, 4 infs and a cleric (who actually popped spthere of rejuv), while the "helpers" were all paladins, armsman and other heavy shield tanks w/o groups. We died like 4 times and they couldn't figure out why lol. Finally ended up called 1.5 groups of BMs to do that encounter. 3 groups for SoM GG plain

 

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TNO IS A BUNCHA THIEVES

 

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Ima jackass sad

 

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Ya you are. Damn Osred..

 

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I take offense!!!!

I'm a jackassette thank you very much!!!!!

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I cant remember if i have posted on this thread or not yet so i will just incase.

 

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Rolled an Alb now? I <3 you, Tott, but you are insane.

 

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Kaldor i dont think ya did too much to scroll through but i know i have but /wave anyway

 

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I'm almost tempted... almost. happy

 

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Tempted to what?!?!? grin

 

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EWWWWWWWWWWWW T.M.I. Brotha

 

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Oh I see - but Cabby talks about his parts all the time and that's cool? sad

I was referring to the fact that Albion was the one realm I never messed around in...

 

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Yea me either. it took me like 30 minutes to find the damn armsman trainer in the SI city. it's hard to pass up the chance to be a "DINOSAUR OMG". tongue

 

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This post is gonna be locked soon, so it's time for me to comment before I am unable to.

I like pie.

That is all.

 

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he leaves the Alb women alone. He prefers the firbolg and troll women tongue

 

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cherry pie?

 

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warm apple pie??

 

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Blueberry Pie for the wtfwin

 

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Stealing SoM is so FotM now.

 

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this thread is closing in on its 200 post milestone.......IBTL

 

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/beg /beg /beg /beg /beg /beg /beg /beg /beg /beg /beg /beg

Ooops, am I too late?




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nephrin to stop humping my leg

 

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Less caffeine needed IMO :P

 

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I don't get it. I mean i know TNO does participate in alot of RvR and realm support. So why do things that are totally opposite of realm supportive. PvE/RvR...really makes no diff. We're supposed to fend for eachother. She was physically camping SoM for quite a long time was present there on her toon not just parking it there. Sure, theres no rule that prevents you from rushing the camp, but there is a thing called morals and respect for your realm which you supposedly have so much of since you RvR more thean we do? Taking keeps and defending relics is all good, but shanking your realm mates even if it be in PvE is hypocritical IMO.
Ehlis seems to have alot to say. Big man doing all the right things. OK...greyfire is not your toon, and I knew the original Adalonius/AKA: Dukes, who just happened to be an AoE player. So have you ever had a toon you didn't have to buy? Sure jump on an ebayed toon and join a good guild , then try and justify your lack of morals and blatent disrespect for others? Whatever...bleh.

 

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OMG!
I had to scroll sideways to read that post!

Hit
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this thread makes me hot in the pants

 

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page!


PS: oops, premature page =(

 

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Think you guys need to swap that around.

 

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btw, anyone know where the Ranger trainer is in Domm ?!?!?

 

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wow monsters is hot in the pants, elic is premature paging, neph is nuts, steep is too smart, and postal its in the first tree on the right when u enter Dom tongue

 

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