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This IS going to trail, so this tells me that the special prosecutor is confident in the evidence they have against Zimmerman.

 

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Subject: No Grand Jury In The Martin Case
I wonder if Intrade has anything on it. I still don't think there will ever be a trial.

 

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They must see no need. So, Not Guilty!

 

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^^ probably

 

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Subject: No Grand Jury In The Martin Case
How does it go to trial without a Grand Jury? I think it's fundamental American right to have a Grand Jury to determine if there is enough evidence to go to trial. Without a GJ, there is no trial.

 

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There will be a civil trial, but no criminal trial.

 

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Only first degree murder cases require the use of a grand jury per Florida law. I don't think they were ever considering charging him with first degree murder, so this doesn't mean he won't be charged.

 

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Ashmaele posted:
Only first degree murder cases require the use of a grand jury per Florida law. I don't think they were ever considering charging him with first degree murder, so this doesn't mean he won't be charged.


Really? That's pretty damn weird. In NYC, every felony charge requires a Grand Jury.

 

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Subject: No Grand Jury In The Martin Case
You can call a grand jury in Florida for other charges. It is more likely the grand jury was called by the previous prosecutor and the current one didn't have the case ready to bring it in time before the grand jury is discharged. Much to do about nothing.

 

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Yeah, you don't need a grand jury...if prosecutors have enough evidence they take it to a judge and if the judge agrees, they go right to court.

 

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Subject: No Grand Jury In The Martin Case
Altra_Shadowstalker posted:
How does it go to trial without a Grand Jury? I think it's fundamental American right to have a Grand Jury to determine if there is enough evidence to go to trial. Without a GJ, there is no trial.
Grand juries are a Federal requirement, not a State requirement. They aren't even used in over half the States.

 

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does this mean murder charge off table?

<edit>oops just saw Ash post, just 1st degree murder.

 

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Subject: No Grand Jury In The Martin Case
It means he won't see the gas chamber, ie no Murder I.

I expect either manslaughter or no charges at all, followed by multiple civil suits.

 

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The announcement means the decision on charges now rests solely with Corey, who had a reputation for not presenting cases before grand juries if it wasn't required.

 

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Makes sense, I suppose, but the headline fits into the "Florida Doesn't Care About Black People" mold too well for the media to resist.

 

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Subject: No Grand Jury In The Martin Case
When he gets put into a cell I will make a "lets all point and laugh at Cabby thread." I predict most of you will not really care about the topic but will still participate enthusiastically in this fun loving and long overdue Official Outpost Event.

 

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Ashmaele posted:
It means he won't see the gas chamber, ie no Murder I.

I expect either manslaughter or no charges at all, followed by multiple civil suits.


Yep. We are still stuck at square one waiting to hear if there is anything that hasn't been leaked. Then the Civil trial.

 

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Subject: No Grand Jury In The Martin Case
vn_nnanji posted:
When he gets put into a cell I will make a "lets all point and laugh at Cabby thread." I predict most of you will not really care about the topic but will still participate enthusiastically in this fun loving and long overdue Official Outpost Event.


And what will you do when he doesn't? laugh

 

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