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It's a concentrated spring on a hill, and I'll be working a 2 step process. First to make the water available to use immediately since it will be needed, and then building something more sustainable later when there's an easier way to get supplies there on an ATV or something.

Heavy construction equipment isn't an option, and all materials need to be carried there through thick brush, hills, wet land, and forest. Because of this I'm thinking I'll start with a bottomless plastic spring "box", some gravel and rocks underneath, and a secure top. Use of rocks is a plus since those can be scavenged.

 

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Subject: Has anyone here developed a natural spring with their own bare hands?
I would think you are heading in the right direction. Maybe a tarp or cloth weed block as it would be easy to pack in and will help with erosion. Basically a mini dam/reservoir should work to start. Even if it is a slow spring it isn't like you are relying on it for 24/7 water needs.

 

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Also experiences building zip lines would be useful.

 

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Steelwind_Oo posted:
I would think you are heading in the right direction. Maybe a tarp or cloth weed block as it would be easy to pack in and will help with erosion. Basically a mini dam/reservoir should work to start. Even if it is a slow spring it isn't like you are relying on it for 24/7 water needs.


In this area it is 24/7 water needs. I know of other areas with water, but low and swampy. This water is fairly clean and uphill. I'll be building it while essentially backpacking, using it while surveying a large amount of land around, then doing some work to make way for other people. Perfect sanitation isn't a concern or even possible.

 

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i can create natural springs in the palm of my hand

 

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is there any clay around?

because clay holds water really well because of how dense it is.

that how we build ponds here, we dig down to the clay level.

 

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is there any clay around?

because clay holds water really well because of how dense it is.

that how we build ponds here, we dig down to the clay level.


I might be able to find some, but I can bring synthetics like plastic and screen with me. An enclosed spring tap/bucket is what I'm looking to build to start. I'll probably have some PVC pipe also in case I accidentally the whole spring and need some controlled drainage, but not much.

 

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get some of that black landscaping cloth or plastic.

its comes in rolls and its light so carrying it in would be no problem.

just dig out a basin line the bottom with the cloth, replace some soil and let settle.

and then if you want to pipe water some place, you can get a small 12v pump with a solar panel and some of that black flex tubing stuff or use gravity.

the hunting lodge I use has its water come from a spring that uses gravity to pipe water down to the cabin. we use a propane water heater out of a RV to boil the water before its pumped into a army surplus water tank for storage.

 

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I use my hands to guide the spring so I don't piss all over the place.

 

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there's a website dedicated to this crap because of the amount of springs in my area. i forget the name though so i'm super unhelpful. it's related to the carlsbad alkaline water crap though. i'd actually find it for you but i have been given food poisoning and have not slept.

 

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Caoilin posted:
there's a website dedicated to this crap because of the amount of springs in my area. i forget the name though so i'm super unhelpful. it's related to the carlsbad alkaline water crap though. i'd actually find it for you but i have been given food poisoning and have not slept.


I have a bunch of sites saved and PDFs, but most focus on big jobs rather than what you can do with limited carry weight and supplies. I know making a capped spring box with a plastic barrel is easily possible, and if the info I have dated 35 years ago is right then I'm only digging a few cubic feet, but all the instructions I've found are way more modernized than that kind of thing.

I have a feeling I'm going to have to wing it once I get there.

 

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Sith_Mauler posted:
get some of that black landscaping cloth or plastic.

its comes in rolls and its light so carrying it in would be no problem.

just dig out a basin line the bottom with the cloth, replace some soil and let settle.

and then if you want to pipe water some place, you can get a small 12v pump with a solar panel and some of that black flex tubing stuff or use gravity.

the hunting lodge I use has its water come from a spring that uses gravity to pipe water down to the cabin. we use a propane water heater out of a RV to boil the water before its pumped into a army surplus water tank for storage.


A lot of that would come later. Depending how the land is after I get a feel for it, I'll probably build either a mechanical pump, or a pipe and valve with an overflow pipe. But I'm not even thinking about that now. This is only an expedition so I can see what I'm dealing with, and preparing the area for other wimps who don't want to rough it that extreme.

 

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Hiakisha posted:
i can create natural springs in the palm of my hand


i'm pretty sure you just mean jerking off.

 

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Hiakisha posted:
i can create natural springs in the palm of my hand


i'm pretty sure you just mean jerking off.


Really? Because I was wondering what he meant, and now you've clarified that for me. Thank you good sir, thank you.

 

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if you own the land, just build over the spring, this way people can't get to your source of water tongue and hides it. and make it part of your house or home site.

 

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Fallen_daemon posted:
if you own the land, just build over the spring, this way people can't get to your source of water tongue and hides it. and make it part of your house or home site.


That's an incredibly stupid comment for various reasons, but thank you for your input. Since you're city folk, I don't hold it against you. peace

 

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fresh water is commodity, and when society falls. you wish you took my advice.

 

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Most of society couldn't make it to this land. They'd all cannibalize each other well and far away.

 

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a fool and his water and life are soon departed when the zombies hit!!!

 

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We had a spring back in PA. What a giant pain in the ass.

 

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I have done it before, and in an area that was not ATV-accessible. If you've got an ATV, you can probably drag or carry anything you need. You should be able to take a couple bags of quickrete up to create a natural cistern for the spring, along with a drain (screened to filter out crap) and even a large heavy plastic holding tank. You'll need some flexible but thick piping, some heavy valves in places so you can cut off supply to the holding tank, and possibly some lumber to create a lid for the concrete cistern. You can also bring up some flat heavy styrofoam boards to create an easy level surface for your holding tank.

Other things you might need are zipties, a shovel, pipe-cutters, and rubber cement.

 

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_Alexandra_ posted:
We had a spring back in PA. What a giant pain in the ass.


Really? Why? Serious question!

 

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just figure out :o. britonguy is a pot grower who illegally went into the us and is growing that stuff :o.

 

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Gaevren posted:
_Alexandra_ posted:
We had a spring back in PA. What a giant pain in the ass.


Really? Why? Serious question!


We were constantly having issues with water quality. Too many nearby farms.

 

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_Alexandra_ posted:
Gaevren posted:
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We had a spring back in PA. What a giant pain in the ass.


Really? Why? Serious question!


We were constantly having issues with water quality. Too many nearby farms.


Ok yeah that would make a lot of sense.

 

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Dark_EternalFF posted:
I have done it before, and in an area that was not ATV-accessible. If you've got an ATV, you can probably drag or carry anything you need. You should be able to take a couple bags of quickrete up to create a natural cistern for the spring, along with a drain (screened to filter out crap) and even a large heavy plastic holding tank. You'll need some flexible but thick piping, some heavy valves in places so you can cut off supply to the holding tank, and possibly some lumber to create a lid for the concrete cistern. You can also bring up some flat heavy styrofoam boards to create an easy level surface for your holding tank.

Other things you might need are zipties, a shovel, pipe-cutters, and rubber cement.


What did you start with? The thing about the land is it's thick pain in the butt brush. As you get closer to the spring and the land I want to set up camp in, it just gets worse because the water makes it all that much more thick. Any serious amount of sand or lime is a deal killer until I can clear out some paths with a chainsaw. It really is that bad.

As far as I've heard, some jerk logging company illegally logged the crap out of the whole area 20-30 years ago, so it filled in real nicely and really thick with viny brush. I'd sue to the person in charge, but I'm pretty sure he's dead, and he left the liability on himself which sucks.

 

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_Alexandra_ posted:
Gaevren posted:
_Alexandra_ posted:
We had a spring back in PA. What a giant pain in the ass.


Really? Why? Serious question!


We were constantly having issues with water quality. Too many nearby farms.


Sucks. This spring is uphill with nothing around. If there's contamination then I accidentally pooped in it without noticing.

 

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