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Tai-Daishar_MT 
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Subject: Seeing as how these forums are going away...
Let's say, hypothetically speaking, that a group of folks here with no small experience running forums were to stand up a new set. The idea would be to provide boards for the active MMO's as well as the extra flavor boards traffic'd here in a relaxed (but not utter chaos and bedlam) atmosphere. In other words, clone what worked and drop what didn't. If such a place were stood up, how many here would consider giving it a try?

Consider this a hypothetical interest survey mischief

 

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Subject: Seeing as how these forums are going away...
Depends on the layout and style of the boards. Also on the rules of those forums.

 

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I would be interested in seeing how it worked out.

 

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Subject: Seeing as how these forums are going away...
These boards are going away?

 

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Yup

 

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Subject: Seeing as how these forums are going away...
I would consider giving it a try, but as stated, it depends on the result and the rules. Yes, I would give it a try. But, if I would stay would depend on the overall atmosphere. Honestly, I'm never diving into the nonsense some consider a 'desired' environment again.

Lesson learned.

I've said it before, but I post on a lot of forums. Some professional and some for pure entertainment. Only on VN have I seen a level of such uncontrolled stupidity run amok (i.e. Rift forum) to the point where it killed the community in such a devestating way. That's when I knew VN was doomed.

But, to answer your question again: yes.

 

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Subject: Seeing as how these forums are going away...
Ardenwolfe posted:
I would consider giving it a try, but as stated, it depends on the result and the rules. Yes, I would give it a try. But, if I would stay would depend on the overall atmosphere. Honestly, I'm never diving into the nonsense some consider a 'desired' environment again.

Lesson learned.

I've said it before, but I post on a lot of forums. Some professional and some for pure entertainment. Only on VN have I seen a level of such uncontrolled stupidity run amok (i.e. Rift forum) to the point where it killed the community in such a devestating way. That's when I knew VN was doomed.

But, to answer your question again: yes.


Are you implying that the community was shit and drove away the masses, thus the boards activity went down and now the boards are going away? Ultimately the lack of moderators killed vn?

 

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No, not the overall community. But, select members on various boards, did have the effect of warning off new and old members from the boards. They told us as much in various threads. I wouldn't go so far as to say the community was 'shit' because that's rather unfair. What I will say is that certain members are shit instead.

That said, some members on these boards, to include moderators, display unbelievable tact and maturity as far as discussions. So, it would be grossly unfair to disrespect the entire community for the actions of a vocal and obnoxious few.

Again, to be truly fair, official game forums killed VN as a whole. Back in the day, games lacked any forums to discuss their games. VN filled this void. So much so, game designers like Marc Jacobs posted here instead of their own forums.

Around the turn of the century, designers realized they could control media and opinion better if they offered their own forums through their hired moderators. This turn of events is what truly started to kill independent forums like the one here. Realistically, most of us are from those days when AC and DAoC drew us to VN. We've just been too stubborn to leave. And, maybe, the familiarity helped as well.

It would be a gross over-generalization to say those posters and lack of moderation 'killed' these boards. But, I will say certain acts or lack thereof didn't save it either.

I'll leave it at that.

 

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I agree with Arden. It was not the over all community. Most of you are great and overall give to a thread. But there are a select few that come to just cause trouble and drama.

The discussion of differing opinions are great. That's what forums are for. To discuss those differing of opinions or ideas. But when you get trolls that post something that has no bearing on the conversation or makes no sense in any way shape or form that is trolling.

I'd go to the new forums. I love to read about discussing on differing opinions and ideas. Its logical. Its informative and it gives people a side of the conversation that they may not have seen before. That is what forums are for.

 

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I would check it out I liked coming here over the years and learned a lot from people I liked and people who I didn't always agree with as well.

 

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Subject: Seeing as how these forums are going away...
Ardenwolfe posted:


Around the turn of the century, designers realized they could control media and opinion better if they offered their own forums through their hired moderators. This turn of events is what truly started to kill independent forums like the one here. Realistically, most of us are from those days when AC and DAoC drew us to VN. We've just been too stubborn to leave. And, maybe, the familiarity helped as well.



That actually speaks volumes.

 

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Subject: Seeing as how these forums are going away...
I'd probably give it a try Tai. I enjoy the freedom of discussion that is allowed here on VN so if you are going to try and recreate that atmosphere then I'm all for it.

 

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Subject: Seeing as how these forums are going away...
Yes, I always like the idea of gaming forums that support conversation/discussion and even argument. I'd just want to be sure that some of the more overt trolling and aggressively negative or personalized back-and-forth don't come to dominate the way they often did here. That stuff sort of wrecked these boards.

Anyway, that's another topic. I'd be happy to see some of you put a new set of boards together, and would support that. I certainly don't intend to make the move to IGN.

 

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It's ironic. A couple of us in another thread mentioned how the rampant and blatant trolling had contributed quite a bit to killing this board and were mocked and called delusional. Guess we weren't delusional after all. I look forward to seeing the new forums you create, Tai, and sincerely hope that they are moderated more then VN was.

 

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To be clear, I am not the brains behind this effort (trust me, that is a good thing), I am just helping them out where needed. They have far more experience than I doing this sort of thing.

 

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Sure.

 

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those who know me can always depend on me as a "GO". i would be willing to donate, and/or contribute to whatever need you have. just PM me and ask for either cell #, email, or whatever....

 

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Sure. But if certain people were to show up, I doubt I would post there long. I trust Tai to know who the offenders are wink

 

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Looks like someone beat you to it.

http://www.vnrefugee.com/group.php?groupid=1

I'm sure the lot of you all could request a WoW board~

 

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I would be there, so long as all these little pansy whiners weren't all QQ whaaaaaaaaaa for yet another 10 years grin

 

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Ugggg, really? :\

 

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Subject: Seeing as how these forums are going away...
Saxona posted:
Looks like someone beat you to it.

http://www.vnrefugee.com/group.php?groupid=1

I'm sure the lot of you all could request a WoW board~


Nope, no one beat me anywhere mischief

Please send me a PM if you are interested, I am on vacation and trying to juggle that along with the fun here but I will get back to you asap.

 

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Woo!

 

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Subject: Seeing as how these forums are going away...
Tai-Daishar_MT posted:
Let's say, hypothetically speaking, that a group of folks here with no small experience running forums were to stand up a new set. The idea would be to provide boards for the active MMO's as well as the extra flavor boards traffic'd here in a relaxed (but not utter chaos and bedlam) atmosphere. In other words, clone what worked and drop what didn't. If such a place were stood up, how many here would consider giving it a try?

Consider this a hypothetical interest survey mischief


Other then the endless mental masterbating over the mythical memories of DAOC, I really like this board(s), but this baord is already dead and has been dead for years. If you want to work your ass off to move the carcass to a new place to rot, knock yourself out but you are wasting your time.

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