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1) We can't just ban anyone we don't like. Despite Xexy, Simon, Asheron, Jojji, and associated cunts being completely retarded, the are as much a part of this board as anyone, and bring life to it. The only time a ban should ever even be considered is if a poster is so disruptive it undermines the integrity of the board. Personalities are too important for a community to just exclude.

2) There must be no filters. We're all adults here. We can cuss. Most of us don't cuss with every sentence we type, and some might, but that's life, and it's expression. Filters are for faggots. Fucking frostfellian fairy faggots.

3) There needs to be an air of neutrality concerning politics/favoritism. If UD or another guild is kind enough to let us move in, we need to make sure in-game shit doesn't cross over to the boards. I'm talking about broad power abuses or biases, and this is probably the single best reason why VN has survived. It's been neutral ground for everyone to broadcast from.

These rules are imperative for a successful future community.

Also, Guild Wars 2? AA floated the idea and it seems legit, although I'm not sure how open-world the game will be. Sandbox games might have an entirely different social aspect with it.

 

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It'd be fun to have everyone from every guild fighting together as a team.

 

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Yeah but we're too diverse to always get along. I want to be able to call Zenodice a fat fucking coward for never posting his picture, or Xexy a hypocritical faggot with secret liberal tendencies because it's fun, and not worry about repercussions, or them leaving.

 

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Who wants to read crap in guild chat.

Learn to get along, or don't be a part of the fun and get tossed.


Just keep the bickering to /tell's

 

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Get down forums... I just created a new theme for the website. Planning on building a community for diablo 3/GW 2... but AC will always have its section.

 

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That's exactly what I mean though Aaron, VN has always been a neutral ground for us to gather, discuss, debate, fight, and basically live online. There's a huge level of integrity and authenticity in those basic freedoms, which is why I made this post. Even the potential to silence people because you don't like what they're saying is unhealthy and isn't conducive for community.

 

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I have a private guild website I use for my group of friends that play a bunch of other games together, it serves mainly as a place for us to keep information about games and shit like macros etc..

I could consider opening it up to the greater VN:DT community and I really don't give a fuck about politics other than I think some people are faggots, but the only people i'd ban would the ones that really deserve it for posting shit that is completely pointless (like viruses or kiddie porn or other shit).

Obviously I couldn't give a shit what people say.

For instance, I would never ban Gaydalf or Spazrael just because I love shitting on them so much.

Anyways, here's what my forums look like, if people wanted an alternative to Caustic that is less neon green and "busy" like his site.

 

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Thanks for the offer Zeno. I think we should collect all the URLs for everyone offering boards, and put it to a vote before a week is up.

Also, do you guys think the IGN boards will be welcoming? We might just be able to adapt to the new boards, but there might be insane moderation there, something I know will kill the community.

 

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Yeah, it's up to other people really.

We put some work into our forums so they're actually pretty solid and I have no problem with a bunch of VN people registering as long as they can put aside their petty faggotry and not try and hack each other and shit.

It's just another option, I truly don't care enough about anything that goes on here or in-game to let personal bias really affect things, I'd even let vulno and his faggy crew of mouth breathers post there.

 

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Good, that's the neutrality we need. So far we have like 3 people including you offering boards. As more options spring up I'll make a poll within a day or two. Best case scenario is the new IGN boards are accommodating and have the lack of moderation we enjoy so much here, but that may not be the case.

 

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Gandalf_of_the_Shire posted:
That's exactly what I mean though Aaron, VN has always been a neutral ground for us to gather, discuss, debate, fight, and basically live online. There's a huge level of integrity and authenticity in those basic freedoms, which is why I made this post. Even the potential to silence people because you don't like what they're saying is unhealthy and isn't conducive for community.



So one rule is simply to not have back and forth bickering on other people's screen (in game I mean)

Want to play in the massive Darktide guild in GW2? Follow one easy to manage rule.

 

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Yeah, it's up to other people really.

We put some work into our forums so they're actually pretty solid and I have no problem with a bunch of VN people registering as long as they can put aside their petty faggotry and not try and hack each other and shit.

It's just another option, I truly don't care enough about anything that goes on here or in-game to let personal bias really affect things, I'd even let vulno and his faggy crew of mouth breathers post there.


The problem is this cant just be a backup where a "bunch" of people will move over. It has to be a complete replacement for everyone to move over. It will be the same people you see every day here, who hate each other and flame each other etc. Whoever takes this task has to be wiling to act as VN has for us all these years.

 

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Hunter_of_Tears posted:
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Yeah, it's up to other people really.

We put some work into our forums so they're actually pretty solid and I have no problem with a bunch of VN people registering as long as they can put aside their petty faggotry and not try and hack each other and shit.

It's just another option, I truly don't care enough about anything that goes on here or in-game to let personal bias really affect things, I'd even let vulno and his faggy crew of mouth breathers post there.


The problem is this cant just be a backup where a "bunch" of people will move over. It has to be a complete replacement for everyone to move over. It will be the same people you see every day here, who hate each other and flame each other etc. Whoever takes this task has to be wiling to act as VN has for us all these years.


This is what I'm saying, the way I see it, the only thing I could see banning people for is linking to viruses, trojans or shit we all agree is tasteless like kiddie porn whereas pictures that show closeups of vags / anuses or racially offensive etc would be no biggie.

IMO, I would like forums that are even less restricted than VN is, that's how I run my shit.

Flaming people and the bickering / flame wars that go on here are what makes VN what it is, that should and would all be tolerated in my opinion.

 

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So one rule is simply to not have back and forth bickering on other people's screen (in game I mean)

Want to play in the massive Darktide guild in GW2? Follow one easy to manage rule.


I mean, as long as there's a place where we can go and vent at each other with zero repercussion, I don't mind adopting rules of civility in game. We do need an outlet though, thus the boards.

And HOT, can you be more specific?

 

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check out the get down forums, iso opinions.

 

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check out the get down forums, iso opinions.


Not bad, though I'm not a huge fan of the white and it lacks subforums.

 

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check out the get down forums, iso opinions.


Not bad, though I'm not a huge fan of the white and it lacks subforums.


Don't really have a need for subforums that aren't currently being used ya know? Makes the forum look dead...

The white seems to be easiest on the eyes also. For me personally.

 

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Excessive_DT posted:
Zenodice posted:
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check out the get down forums, iso opinions.


Not bad, though I'm not a huge fan of the white and it lacks subforums.


Don't really have a need for subforums that aren't currently being used ya know? Makes the forum look dead...

The white seems to be easiest on the eyes also. For me personally.


I guess, in my case we use ours for links and shit when we play games, so it's divided so things don't get lost once their off the front page.

I think no matter what forums people use, there should be a forum called VNDT which is basically what we have now and is just anything goes.

I was thinking of making a white version of my forums too, but I find it hard on the eyes haha, to each their own.

 

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Zenodice posted:
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[quote=Excessive_DT]check out the get down forums, iso opinions.


Not bad, though I'm not a huge fan of the white and it lacks subforums.


Don't really have a need for subforums that aren't currently being used ya know? Makes the forum look dead...

The white seems to be easiest on the eyes also. For me personally.


I guess, in my case we use ours for links and shit when we play games, so it's divided so things don't get lost once their off the front page.

I think no matter what forums people use, there should be a forum called VNDT which is basically what we have now and is just anything goes.

I was thinking of making a white version of my forums too, but I find it hard on the eyes haha, to each their own.[/quote]

The color scheme that VN uses looks really ugly/trashy for any of the new modern forum software, not sure if you've messed around with it at all. I couldn't get it to look halfway decent

 

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I'd say I could make a VN:DT board on the PB site or they can use the General forums. As long as it's not something that is absolutely disgusting, like Vanish with his signature having a pic of a shemale spread eagle, then I could care less.

 

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http://www.reddit.com/r/VNDT/

 

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brilliant

 

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I'd say I could make a VN:DT board on the PB site or they can use the General forums. As long as it's not something that is absolutely disgusting, like Vanish with his signature having a pic of a shemale spread eagle, then I could care less.


I would take the approach of no porn/viruses.. much more offical. No faggots like swordz either.

 

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ThemeForAJackal posted:http://www.reddit.com/r/VNDT/


brilliant


I think this guy is on to something.

 

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I posted a pic of my forums here, mine are all black / grey

 

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I posted a pic of my forums here, mine are all black / grey


If this does happen.. I dont want to post on some freeware shit like the pbs have.. Nor do I want to post on some garbage skinned website.. The community is going to go wherever a large portion does.. they dont really have a choice when it comes to trades and things like that.

I saw someone just create DTboard.com .. php is garbage, it gets the hell spammed out of it by programs like xrumer. I dont know what software you run on your zeno, is it vbulletin?

 

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ThemeForAJackal posted:http://www.reddit.com/r/VNDT/


Reddit isn't really a forum, but it could work for our purposes, this is not a bad option and should be considered on par with the other options available.

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I saw someone just create DTboard.com .. php is garbage, it gets the hell spammed out of it by programs like xrumer. I dont know what software you run on your zeno, is it vbulletin?


Actually mine is phpbb, we just have a lot of shit in place to prevent spammers, we haven't had a single spamming incident in a long time, there are a lot of good plugins people can use that have global blacklists.

 

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ThemeForAJackal posted:http://www.reddit.com/r/VNDT/


Reddit isn't really a forum, but it could work for our purposes, this is not a bad option and should be considered on par with the other options available.

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I saw someone just create DTboard.com .. php is garbage, it gets the hell spammed out of it by programs like xrumer. I dont know what software you run on your zeno, is it vbulletin?


Actually mine is phpbb, we just have a lot of shit in place to prevent spammers, we haven't had a single spamming incident in a long time, there are a lot of good plugins people can use that have global blacklists.


What plugins are you using to prevent spammers and people running link bots? I'll throw them up on DTBoard.com

 

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ThemeForAJackal posted:http://www.reddit.com/r/VNDT/


Reddit isn't really a forum, but it could work for our purposes, this is not a bad option and should be considered on par with the other options available.

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I saw someone just create DTboard.com .. php is garbage, it gets the hell spammed out of it by programs like xrumer. I dont know what software you run on your zeno, is it vbulletin?


Actually mine is phpbb, we just have a lot of shit in place to prevent spammers, we haven't had a single spamming incident in a long time, there are a lot of good plugins people can use that have global blacklists.


What plugins are you using to prevent spammers and people running link bots? I'll throw them up on DTBoard.com


It's a secret brah.

I will admit I'm not too keen on joining a forum run by someone who just registered that I've never heard of...

Not that I don't think it's cool that you'd host forums, just that it should probably be a relatively notable member of the community of people are going to trust that it will stick around. (I'm not saying I'm notable either, just that i've been around a long time).

 

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[quote=ThemeForAJackal http://www.reddit.com/r/VNDT/


Reddit isn't really a forum, but it could work for our purposes, this is not a bad option and should be considered on par with the other options available.

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I saw someone just create DTboard.com .. php is garbage, it gets the hell spammed out of it by programs like xrumer. I dont know what software you run on your zeno, is it vbulletin?


Actually mine is phpbb, we just have a lot of shit in place to prevent spammers, we haven't had a single spamming incident in a long time, there are a lot of good plugins people can use that have global blacklists.


What plugins are you using to prevent spammers and people running link bots? I'll throw them up on DTBoard.com


It's a secret brah.

I will admit I'm not too keen on joining a forum run by someone who just registered that I've never heard of...

Not that I don't think it's cool that you'd host forums, just that it should probably be a relatively notable member of the community of people are going to trust that it will stick around. (I'm not saying I'm notable either, just that i've been around a long time).[/quote]

I agree with this. I want a trusted and known person hosting the boards, or running it.

 

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Komplex_VN posted:
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[quote=Zenodice][quote=ThemeForAJackal http://www.reddit.com/r/VNDT/


Reddit isn't really a forum, but it could work for our purposes, this is not a bad option and should be considered on par with the other options available.

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I saw someone just create DTboard.com .. php is garbage, it gets the hell spammed out of it by programs like xrumer. I dont know what software you run on your zeno, is it vbulletin?


Actually mine is phpbb, we just have a lot of shit in place to prevent spammers, we haven't had a single spamming incident in a long time, there are a lot of good plugins people can use that have global blacklists.


What plugins are you using to prevent spammers and people running link bots? I'll throw them up on DTBoard.com


It's a secret brah.

I will admit I'm not too keen on joining a forum run by someone who just registered that I've never heard of...

Not that I don't think it's cool that you'd host forums, just that it should probably be a relatively notable member of the community of people are going to trust that it will stick around. (I'm not saying I'm notable either, just that i've been around a long time).[/quote]

I agree with this. I want a trusted and known person hosting the boards, or running it.[/quote]


I just registered this name, my original account is registered in '01 but I sold that character long ago so I prefer not to post on it. I came back to darktide about two months ago. I'd also be willing to give trusted members of the community full moderator/admin access.

 

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Aye, me too. Needs to be an established member/guild. But we'll put it to a vote, others may disagree if the boards offered are good enough.

 

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I propose Hagrin.comHagrin was a moderator here as well and has always been a good fellow.

 

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excited for guild wars 2 and diablo 3

 

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we can make a "The VNboard" section

 

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Nobody wants to go to a board where every thread is old guys sucking eachother off either. Moderation has to be there.

 

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RayneOfAmber posted:
Nobody wants to go to a board where every thread is old guys sucking eachother off either. Moderation has to be there.


Seriously.

 

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and thats the only thing allowed to be posted, no words, just tits. that would be my forums.

 

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I agree there needs to be moderation. I just mean, the exact level we have here is perfect. We can cuss, we can say what we want, we just can't spam porn or some shit. I dig this amount.

 

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Gandalf_of_the_Shire posted:
I agree there needs to be moderation. I just mean, the exact level we have here is perfect. We can cuss, we can say what we want, we just can't spam porn or some shit. I dig this amount.

My demands for switching sites are as follows: 1. a sticky thread so one can post links to their favorite heterosexual videos

That is all, GET FUCKED WORLD!

 

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step 1) you're gonna need a council of sages
Checks and balances, one representative from each guild who can intelligently and unbiasedly make decisions on bannings.
step 2) you'll have to form rules that if you break, you will get banned.. a CoC,
the council will deal with the gray areas.. for example, if it's a rule you can't say the name Heathor but someone says Heather, the council would come to a conclusion on that..
step 3) you'll have to make a fucking sticky thread so I can post my favorite hetero porn links, because bookmarking shit seems so Aol 4.0 to me

 

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I don't see there being a problem with threads with porn in it, it should just be tagged NSFW so people know and can avoid it.

Also, preferable if people aren't using racial slurs in titles and shit.

Still, banning someone for posting a picture of a vag is ridiculous and I would absolutely never ban for cursing or anything ridiculous like that.

I think we just need to make sticky threads for the things people want to post to keep them out of normal threads, like a porn thread and a spam thread.

I think once a board is chosen, people should vote on some of the moderation (such as do we edit posts with porn that are posted outside the porn thread etc.), and all threads that are NSFW and not tagged so will be edited by mods and/or removed.

The only reason I'd be skeptical about going to UD's forums is most of you guys have a terrible track record for raging out and/or being elitist, would be hard to trust you wouldn't be extremely biased and heavy handed with moderation. By that same token, I think there may be one or two people from UD who could be moderators on a neutral board, provided they don't give Rayne access to their accounts because you know he would rageban half the forums. Jus' sayin'.

Hagrin is a pretty decent option, I've never heard of any problem with him, would probably need to have him volunteer his forums directly though.

 

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Hence a guild represented council

 

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Snackpack_Genocide posted:
Hence a guild represented council


I've already said I agree with this numerous times snack you catty bitch.

 

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Another thing to consider, if we do vote on new forums, I know that I would personally be willing to buy another domain to re-direct to the forums.

For example, make a VNDT sub forum on whoever decides to host it and then register a new domain to point there (like that DTBoards guy did).

 

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The only rules I'd like to see are:

1. If tele goes, his stupid icon doesn't.

2. Quick editing of racist bullshit.

3. A record somewhere of what the rules are so people aren't banned arbitrarily over personal grudges or because they owned a mod in some debate.

 

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I think another way to approach it would be a "global" report thread (would show up at the top of every sub forum) and then if a user is banned it will also be noted there.

Similar to something we have here now, that way there is transparency.

That's how I'd do it anyways.

 

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No, reporting, as much as people hate it, needs to be anonymous in order for there to be effective community moderation. Just have few rules so you have to be a retard to get banned. Ban reasons should be public though.

 

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Oh yeah, and limit the physical dimensions that people's icons take up. I hate private boards where people's icons are these giant images, it makes those boards a pain in the ass to read.

 

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Transparency is definitely important. I don't know if names should be attached to reports. Some faggot like Simon could just spam that shit all day, but at the same time if he were anonymous he wouldn't be exposed for the faggot that he is.

 

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So what about it? If the board has only like 3 rules, then why do you care if they are reported anonymously? Simon is a faggot on these boards because there are lots of rules. The new board is looking to have very few, and you need some otherwise the board will just be worthless. They'll need to be enforced, and you will require public support in order to enforce them properly. You won't get that if you have everyone having to weigh whether or not it is worth it to have people talking shit about it every time they make a post. On this board, I've never really had a problem with reporting things in and of themselves, it's just what they report that bothered me. In a board with less rules, I will no longer have that problem.

 

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