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-Mithan- 
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The end is here so what the hell. Go ahead and ask me anything VN related. Questions, drama, etc.

That doesn't mean I will answer but since we are in the final stretch, go ahead and ask.

Just realize if you go full dick, I will go full asshole and edit your post. Keep old hatreds out of this if you have them, with me or others. I dont want a flame war here and will ban if I get it.

I am sure some of you have some old burning questions. As I said, I wont answer them all.

 

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why wont you give me a negative post count

 

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Define "merge," are you really considering joining the two great forces on the VN into a single unit?

 

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-Darkfire- posted:
why wont you give me a negative post count


If I give you a negative post count, then I have to give everybody else that if they ask.

It is easier to say no and not deal with the whining, than say yes and open a flood gate.

Only Managers can do this if they want. None of us want too except Teddy.


the_great_intex posted:
Define "merge," are you really considering joining the two great forces on the VN into a single unit?


Do you mean Outpost and ACFriends? They are staying separate.

 

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Did you ever tell the other mods how much you are paying me?

 

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Tai-Daishar_MT posted:
Did you ever tell the other mods how much you are paying me?


I am not paying you anything. If I was paying you, it would have to be for something else, lest they find out and freak out (which they would be right to do).

 

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when will the search function work?

 

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Is The_Great_Intex and The_Great_Ontex really two different people?

 

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The search function could have been made to work years ago but it was more fun to keep it broken, wasn't it?

 

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Unarmed-Yarr posted:
when will the search function work?


Here? Never.

On the IGN side? Just fine.

 

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I thought the end wasn't near. I thought you said it should be measured in years not months.

 

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-Mithan- posted:
Tai-Daishar_MT posted:
Did you ever tell the other mods how much you are paying me?


I am not paying you anything. If I was paying you, it would have to be for something else, lest they find out and freak out (which they would be right to do).


Bah, that could have played out so much better. Honesty, in this case, is the boring policy not_talking

 

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What was the real reason Loktofeit quit being a mod and went to work elsewhere? Rumor has it he left because he couldn't ban or deal with certain posters, who shall remain nameless, in the manner he wanted.

Truth or just vicious rumor? mischief

 

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-Mithan- posted:
the_great_intex posted:
Define "merge," are you really considering joining the two great forces on the VN into a single unit?


Do you mean Outpost and ACFriends? They are staying separate.

So this is the merge of VN and IGN?


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Ardenwolfe posted:
What was the real reason Loktofeit quit being a mod and went to work elsewhere? Rumor has it he left because he couldn't ban or deal with certain posters who shall remain nameless.

Truth or just vicious rumor? mischief


You mean Osmethne? (spelling sad )

 

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That name sounds familiar, but I don't recall interacting with him or her. Sorry.

Heck, what are you going to do or be once the switch happens, Mithan? I know Tai said he's stepping down. Are the others staying or going as well?

 

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Ardenwolfe posted:
That name sounds familiar, but I don't recall interacting with him or her. Sorry.

Heck, what are you going to do or be once the switch happens, Mithan? I know Tai said he's stepping down. Are the others staying or going as well?


Osmethne was Loktofit. Osmethne was the big red face monster. He lost his post count and log in on that guy somehow and had to start using Loktofit.

 

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Ah! I didn't know they were the same person or that that had happened to him. Yes, the guy with the beholder-like DOOM avatar. That probably explains why the name sounded familiar. . . .

 

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Ferrydust posted:
I thought the end wasn't near. I thought you said it should be measured in years not months.


The way IGN works, I figured I was accurate. I did know that we would probably get a message at some point with little warning though and it seems like that is what happened.



 

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Have I got any mod notes? tongue

 

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PM me any and all Mod notes I have. If you don't, what the funk good are you?

 

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Ardenwolfe posted:
What was the real reason Loktofeit quit being a mod and went to work elsewhere? Rumor has it he left because he couldn't ban or deal with certain posters, who shall remain nameless, in the manner he wanted.

Truth or just vicious rumor? mischief


I barely remember him or why he left if you want the truth but I know if I started looking it would all rush back (he changed his name at one point right?). I could look it up but out of respect for his work and time here, if I had fired him or he quit over something, I wouldn't tell you about it anyways.

The Managers and myself have "fired" mods over the years for various reasons (some big, some small) and we just don't talk about it and this is a rule I made myself for our staff btw, it was never from IGN. We don't even tell other Moderators except in a few cases where they leaked admin notes and we wanted to make an example.

Basically, I never felt it was anybodies business to know what the reasons were, especially because of how seriously some people made these boards their life.

Why?

Moderators, especially in the old days, put in a LOT of time and effort dealing with this place. Sometimes they put a foot wrong and got fired over it. I saw no reason to try and "trash them" or give them a public flogging over it. Its a game forum. Very little of it seriously mattered anyways. Why make it worse for a Moderator who only tried to do their best (even if they were wrong)? They can hate me if they want, it doesn't matter to me, but I still have respect for them as people and the effort they put in.

 

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Will you make Ashmaele a mod for the new and improved Outpost?

 

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Interesting. Among the mods, I truly respected Lok. He was a great guy. It just kind of surprised me that one day he was gone. I get the feeling he stepped down for personal reasons, which I understand should remain private.

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can you PM me my User Notes?

 

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Ardenwolfe posted:
That name sounds familiar, but I don't recall interacting with him or her. Sorry.

Heck, what are you going to do or be once the switch happens, Mithan? I know Tai said he's stepping down. Are the others staying or going as well?



What will I do? No idea yet.
I believe I am to keep my Moderator Status on that side and will probably stick around and Moderate ACF. I know I will not get Administrative rights and everything in my head will no doubt be wasted but whatever. We will see.


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Ah! I didn't know they were the same person or that that had happened to him. Yes, the guy with the beholder-like DOOM avatar. That probably explains why the name sounded familiar. . . .


Osmenthe.. ya now I remember his name before we changed it. He was a good guy overall, a good moderator IMO and intelligent. He figured he was always right. The last part was probably why I never promoted him if I remember right. I like Moderators that challenge me (ask the Managers if you don't believe I want people to challenge our decisions) but I don't like belligerence. He was probably too close to my own personality when all is said and done, but I have a lot of respect for him.



Steelwind_Oo posted:
Have I got any mod notes? tongue


Yes.


Mangler_SC posted:
PM me any and all Mod notes I have. If you don't, what the funk good are you?


No, I would have to remove the names of who moderated you to prevent you from freaking out at the Moderator. This is the prime reason you guys don't get admin notes. We learned a long time ago it isn't worth it. We CAN do it if we want, but none of us thinks its worth the issues you cause. (No offense Mangler).


 

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-Mithan- posted:


Mangler_SC posted:
PM me any and all Mod notes I have. If you don't, what the funk good are you?


No, I would have to remove the names of who moderated you to prevent you from freaking out at the Moderator. This is the prime reason you guys don't get admin notes. We learned a long time ago it isn't worth it. We CAN do it if we want, but none of us thinks its worth the issues you cause. (No offense Mangler).





complete bummer can you at-least read mind and laugh to your self then?

 

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Do you know who the anon poster was that started "osmethne" on the MT boards? grin

 

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would you consider converting your basement into a server room to host all the vn boards

 

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So . . . ACF is one of the boards that will transfer, eh? Any word as others? Heck, I know it's been asked, but what about the post counts per user. Will they transfer over or get nuked? Do you know yet?

 

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I could go into great detail as to why Lok quit. However I'm not going to bring up old drama without many of the players here to give their side of things. I will say it had nothing to do with not being able to ban certain people or any of that kind of stuff. There were other factors in play.


My question for you... Whose decision was it to hire Rose and do they regret said decision?

 

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This implies I have a long list of notes...

Honestly, I don't care who modded me. I just want to see my permanent file.

 

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I wouldn't mind seeing my notes as well grin

 

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How many posts do all of Bonk's rerolls have?

 

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He has got to be past 200k I would presume

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Bonk is more or less part of the VN Boards

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Is The_Great_Intex and The_Great_Ontex really two different people?


You shouldn't answer that Mithan!

 

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Will my VIP carry over?

 

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Caledric posted:
I could go into great detail as to why Lok quit. However I'm not going to bring up old drama without many of the players here to give their side of things. I will say it had nothing to do with not being able to ban certain people or any of that kind of stuff. There were other factors in play.


Interesting.

 

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If I have user notes how many of them are from Foxy?

 

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Why are they the VN boards?

 

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Can I have VIP for the time we have left?

 

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Can I have VIP for the time we have left?

 

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Have mods ever had sex with each other and if so which ones

 

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Can I have VIP too?

And a cookie?

And maybe a good hug?

And who was the anon that started Osmethne?

Oh, and do I get to keep my post count?

 

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We should have mithan post mod notes, and have the ACfers guess who's notes they are.

 

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Motar98 posted:
would you consider converting your basement into a server room to host all the vn boards


I actually considered doing a board for you guys... it would mean betraying Teddy though.


Ardenwolfe posted:
So . . . ACF is one of the boards that will transfer, eh? Any word as others? Heck, I know it's been asked, but what about the post counts per user. Will they transfer over or get nuked? Do you know yet?


We don't know 100% yet. ACF and Outpost are the two I am pretty sure will transfer over in whole.


Caledric posted:
I could go into great detail as to why Lok quit. However I'm not going to bring up old drama without many of the players here to give their side of things. I will say it had nothing to do with not being able to ban certain people or any of that kind of stuff. There were other factors in play.


My question for you... Whose decision was it to hire Rose and do they regret said decision?


The first time or second time? I think Aurum hired her the first time but I don't recall. I was on Thistledown at the time moderating and didn't care about what the other Mods or Site people were doing, provided they stayed the hell off my boards. I would assume one of the IGN people hired her the second time.

EbonDragon posted:
Can I be special?


No, only me. This is my thread, in tribute to you guys.


the_great_intex posted:
He has got to be past 200k I would presume

grin

Bonk is more or less part of the VN Boards

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Is The_Great_Intex and The_Great_Ontex really two different people?


You shouldn't answer that Mithan!


Same guy.


-Prismatic- posted:
Will my VIP carry over?


No idea.


Ibbeh posted:
Why are they the VN boards?

The original Ultima Online Vault was created by Gasper. I guess it just sounded like a catchy name. When they opened up the EQ and AC Vault, they also called it the Vault Network, thus VN Boards.


Dark_EternalFF posted:
Have mods ever had sex with each other and if so which ones


I am actually pretty far out when it comes to mod drama, which is probably why I survived so long. I actually do not know. Furthermore, I actually do not care.

 

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I want you to nuke the secrete files on me tongue .

 

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I don't know that Admin Notes will carry over.

In my opinion, they shouldn't.

 

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Are you going to purge the archive?

 

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Are you going to purge the archive?


I have no idea Ebon. I would assume yes, but I have no idea.

 

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the_great_intex posted:
IMHO posted:
Is The_Great_Intex and The_Great_Ontex really two different people?


You shouldn't answer that Mithan!


Same guy.


laugh

 

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TAG for when I wake up.

I CAN'T FOLLOW THIS ISHT WHEN I'VE BEEN DRINKING!!!

 

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If I get perma banned in the week we have left, will I be renewed and forgiven when the merge happens?

Not that I would ever do that or anything, it's just has to do with a thought experiment I am currently running thru and stuff. tongue

 

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I know why you took my gift of over 1 mil posts away, but can I have em back until we go to the dark side????

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Ptilk posted:
If I get perma banned in the week we have left, will I be renewed and forgiven when the merge happens?

Not that I would ever do that or anything, it's just has to do with a thought experiment I am currently running thru and stuff. tongue


While I doubt anything account related will cary over (post counts, bans, etc), I don't know. It could cause issues so don't do anything that stupid.

 

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I know why you took my gift of over 1 mil posts away, but can I have em back until we go to the dark side????

batting


Until I hear whether it caries over or not, I can't.

 

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what day next week is patch day? i want to be sure i dont take the day off

 

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Will you change the name of my old account and add my post counts together? grin

 

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So while you have power 9000!!!!11!! will you be open to boosting all our post counts by 500K?

Just to show those punks over on IGN how the big dogs roll....and stuff. tongue

 

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I have a two parter:

I'm permabanned on IGN, will that ban be lifted or will I have to evade devil ?

Second part question, is ACF2 active and if so, will they mind me and my basketball related posts there?

 

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what day next week is patch day? i want to be sure i dont take the day off

No idea. Probably Tuesday or Wednesday evening is my guess. If bugs happen, they would want it to happen in the middle of the week so they can fix them by the weekend.

 

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will there be a transition page with jumps to the new spot or are they just un-registering this space and making us find our own way?

 

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Ask me anything VN related


Who's your daddy?

 

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will there be a transition page with jumps to the new spot or are they just un-registering this space and making us find our own way?


My bet is that the URL for vnboards.ign.com will redirect to the boards.ign.com main page and you will see an Vault Network catagory.

That would be the smart thing to do.

However, .... lol.

 

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Seeing as he's seen it fit to pop in out of the blue just in time to catch the merger...

Can you list out all of Arch_Magi's alt accounts.

Also, can I get a copy of my Mod Notes via PM?

 

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Webscar posted:
Seeing as he's seen it fit to pop in out of the blue just in time to catch the merger...

Can you list out all of Arch_Magi's alt accounts.

Also, can I get a copy of my Mod Notes via PM?



Your mod notes are 15 pages long.

No.

 

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How many pages are my notes up to?

 

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Arch_Magi posted:
How many pages are my notes up to?

25

 

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Can I see my mod notes grin

 

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Can I see my mod notes grin


Can I see your ass?

 

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So we are not keeping our post counts then?

I dont know.

 

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Webscar posted:
Seeing as he's seen it fit to pop in out of the blue just in time to catch the merger...

Can you list out all of Arch_Magi's alt accounts.

Also, can I get a copy of my Mod Notes via PM?



Your mod notes are 15 pages long.

No.
I have a surprisingly long list of mod notes...

Confirm/Deny?:

Arch does nothing but troll people, name call and cause problems. The Mods were told specifically by you to deal with it because he brings traffic into the site, and was basically untouchable because of this.

 

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Arch does nothing but troll people, name call and cause problems. The Mods were told specifically by you to deal with it because he brings traffic into the site, and was basically untouchable because of this.


Don't H8.

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Arch does nothing but troll people, name call and cause problems. The Mods were told specifically by you to deal with it because he brings traffic into the site, and was basically untouchable because of this.



Wow, I guess that explains why I wasn't banned for like 3 years straight either. Interesting.

 

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Naw, I'm not hating tongue I'm curious of the answer, and if it is true we might actually get that riot everyone has been talking about out of this merger.

 

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Are you going to push for the name ACF, ACFriends, AC Friends, ACF2, or something else?



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Naw, I'm not hating tongue I'm curious of the answer, and if it is true we might actually get that riot everyone has been talking about out of this merger.


 

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Is all of vnboards going down, or just ACF?

Should we be saying our goodbyes on other vnboards like Harvestgain, etc?

 

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Can I see my mod notes grin


Can I see your ass?


You already have.

 

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How many pages are my mod notes?



same question.

also will all mod notes be trashed or carried over to keep track of troublemakers?

 

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Is all of vnboards going down, or just ACF?

Should we be saying our goodbyes on other vnboards like Harvestgain, etc?
All of VN is being merged into IGN

 

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Arch_Magi posted:
Is all of vnboards going down, or just ACF?

Should we be saying our goodbyes on other vnboards like Harvestgain, etc?
All of VN is being merged into IGN


Yes, I know, but they are doing it in stages apparently.

Not all the other boards, even though active, have been alerted yet. Hence my question.

 

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I have a surprisingly long list of mod notes...

Confirm/Deny?:

Arch does nothing but troll people, name call and cause problems. The Mods were told specifically by you to deal with it because he brings traffic into the site, and was basically untouchable because of this.



lol who told you that load of s***?

I've never told moderators to "ignore Arch because he causes traffic" specifically.

I have told Moderators we are shifting strategy overall because it causes traffic but that is a different question you would need to ask and it isn't specific to Arch, it is specific to ACF's overall moderator strategy of the last 4 or 5 years. He just fell within it, as several others did that would have been permabanned back in the day and I do not regret the decision.

As for Arch specifically, he has been banned a lot of times so I disagree with you and he would certainly disagree with you. When you are both unhappy, then it means that my job has been somewhat done.

Its complicated though and I don't want to turn this into a flame war, who done it, etc, etc so I am not going to discuss him further.



 

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Can I see my mod notes grin


Can I see your ass?


You already have.


I wanted the bonus pictures sad
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... etc, etc so I am not going to discuss him further.


But, but, but ...

 

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When you are both unhappy, then it means that my job has been somewhat done.




LMFAO

 

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Does it all make sense or matter?

 

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Does it all make sense or matter?


Maybe.

 

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Can I see my mod notes grin


Can I see your ass?





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When you are both unhappy, then it means that my job has been somewhat done.




LMFAO

 

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Naw, I'm not hating tongue I'm curious of the answer, and if it is true we might actually get that riot everyone has been talking about out of this merger.


If I felt you guys were capable of just listening to a full opinion on the entire state of that issue without jumping in to finger point or defend yourself, thus escalating the situation, I would. Since you can't, I wont.

Lets leave it at that. Everybody is "culpable", even you. Who cares, its a board. Move on.

Ask about general ACF if you want.


HeartView posted:
Do I have mod notes? [face_innocent]

2 pages.

Arch_Magi posted:
Is all of vnboards going down, or just ACF?

Should we be saying our goodbyes on other vnboards like Harvestgain, etc?



5 to 10 boards. I only know what we told them to move, not what will move. Harvestgain isn't on the list.


Dark_EternalFF posted:
How many pages are my mod notes?


Only 5.


Tipztoe posted:
Dark_EternalFF posted:
How many pages are my mod notes?



same question.

also will all mod notes be trashed or carried over to keep track of troublemakers?


2 pages.

I doubt they will be carried over nor should they, you should all get a new start over there. The rules are different so who cares.


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Arch does nothing but troll people, name call and cause problems. The Mods were told specifically by you to deal with it because he brings traffic into the site, and was basically untouchable because of this.



Wow, I guess that explains why I wasn't banned for like 3 years straight either. Interesting.


I don't know how "bad" you are, but you would fall into the general shift we did in strategy.




 

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5 pages? Jesus, I'm BORING.

 

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I guess since everyone else is asking... do I have any mod notes?

 

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... etc, etc so I am not going to discuss him further.


But, but, but ...
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Dark_EternalFF posted:
-Mithan- posted:
When you are both unhappy, then it means that my job has been somewhat done.




LMFAO



It takes two to tango.


Mangler_SC posted:
Does it all make sense or matter?


Not in the slightest and that is the big secret that some people get and some don't.


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Are you enjoying the attention in this thread??


Yes but you know what? After putting in countless thousands of hours into this place, I f***ing earned it so if anybody has an issue with that, they can blow me.

 

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they can blow me.



Sorry, I don't like Canadian Bacon.

 

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they can blow me.



Sorry, I don't like Canadian Bacon.


Too... salty?

 

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I guess since everyone else is asking... do I have any mod notes?


I will do this once, and once only because you worked for us and were never bad.
I edited out the name of the one mod warning you got.

As you can see, this is all admin log stuff for site crap.




Notes For: -Drack- WARNING: Admin Notes are considered proprietary and private information. Giving them out is not allowed and can result in termination. If you have any questions, please talk to your Forum's Administrator.

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Anyone have a link to what the quests are in chain, or a walkthrough for it. I remember a link was posted either here or on WoW forums, so if you've got that link...

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It'd be best that as a representative of IGN, you don't involve yourself in the Sweet Mary flamefests (http://vnboards.ign.com/message.asp?topic=58061524). This includes making any smartass remarks which will instigate more remarks from more posters.


Posting comments which instigate a negative reaction is baiting, and it is covered in the ToS.


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How many pages are my mod notes?

And what exactly are mod notes?


chicken

 

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[WARNING: Admin Notes are considered proprietary and private information. Giving them out is not allowed and can result in termination. If you have any questions, please talk to your Forum's Administrator.




Seriously? Proprietary? Cause what...the Russian mob is going to sell the mod notes format for $$? plain

 

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Notes For: -Drack- WARNING: Admin Notes are considered proprietary and private information. Giving them out is not allowed and can result in termination. If you have any questions, please talk to your Forum's Administrator.




lol.

 

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can we have an everything goes blowout time period before shutting down?

Peronal attacks, f bombs, t&a, cocaine and hookers?


 

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How many pages are my mod notes?

And what exactly are mod notes?


chicken





it's crap they right about you when you get banned or warned etc


I used to get pms from mods saying I've been warned before.. so I knew they must have been keeping some tabs.


 

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Yes but you know what? After putting in countless thousands of hours into this place, I f***ing earned it so if anybody has an issue with that, they can blow me.


Will that get you a permanent title over at IGN? wink

 

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How many pages are my mod notes?

And what exactly are mod notes?


chicken



21

 

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[WARNING: Admin Notes are considered proprietary and private information. Giving them out is not allowed and can result in termination. If you have any questions, please talk to your Forum's Administrator.




Seriously? Proprietary? Cause what...the Russian mob is going to sell the mod notes format for $$? plain


You know what's even more funny, in the code that monitors them, the Moderator viewing them is actually tracked and stored so Management can see who is doing what on the backend database .... or so I've been told. whistling

 

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any mod notes on me?


3 pages.


Why do people ask?

You ALL have admin notes if you have ever received a PM from a Moderator.



Tipztoe posted:
can we have an everything goes blowout time period before shutting down?

Peronal attacks, f bombs, t&a, cocaine and hookers?



No and don't go do that. We will ban you and that MIGHT carry over for all I know.

 

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Shouldn't have opened the "Mod Notes" Can it seems tongue

 

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Wow 3 pages i must have been naughty without knowing it. thinking

 

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Without naming names, what is the funniest moderator note you've come across in all your years here? Cut and past (with edit) if possible.

 

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combat_mage_sc posted:
How many pages are my mod notes?

And what exactly are mod notes?


chicken



21


how many notes per page?


chicken

 

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Has working on the VN Boards been rewarding?

 

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Oh, how about this - who is the user in all of VN with the most pages of mod notes? Is it GinsuWife? Arch? Someone not on ACF?

 

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Why did Grendel commit suicide last year?

 

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Why did Grendel commit suicide last year?


what?

 

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He did it around Thanksgiving. I know he was depressed, but I really never saw it coming.

 

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I'd guess 15 pages of mod notes for me....Am I close?

So...who has the MOST pages of mod notes?

 

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Who has - to your knowledge - been banned the most times?

 

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Which VN forums will survive on the other side or will we all get lumped into one generic "VN Refugee" board?

edit: And if this is really happening and you're not just trolling us, why not put a notification at the top?

 

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Arch_Magi posted:
Without naming names, what is the funniest moderator note you've come across in all your years here? Cut and past (with edit) if possible.



I don't remember. We did have a thread on the AC Mod board about this from 5 or 6 years ago. I remember one banned user replying to the UBR with "quack quack quack" and I replied with "Dick stuck in the duck?".

The mods look at notes far more than we these days.


EbonDragon posted:
How many pages are my mod notes?


3

Bork_the_orc posted:
Has working on the VN Boards been rewarding?


Yes. It's been a good learning experience and what I have learned here has actually been useful in real life situations. I have a few regrets but overall, I think it was worth it. I got something out of it at least. I spent too much time here in the first few years and regret that.

My biggest regret is not being able to capitalize on it in some way, but I never tried either.

Dark_EternalFF posted:
Oh, how about this - who is the user in all of VN with the most pages of mod notes? Is it GinsuWife? Arch? Someone not on ACF?


No idea. Some of the mods or managers might know who.


Bork_the_orc posted:
Why did Grendel commit suicide last year?


I didn't know he did or I forgot. That sucks sad

 

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I'd guess 15 pages of mod notes for me....Am I close?

So...who has the MOST pages of mod notes?


9

Chogram posted:
Which VN forums will survive on the other side or will we all get lumped into one generic "VN Refugee" board?

edit: And if this is really happening and you're not just trolling us, why not put a notification at the top?



These are what I recomended:
ACFriends
Darktide
Outpost
Ywain
DAoC General Board

Beib, Acery and Grim had some other ones.

I don't know what is moving.


Fairly_Gimp posted:
Who has - to your knowledge - been banned the most times?


Sweet Mary or Alerious Shades from TD probably had the most evades ever.

Repeat bans on one account? Not sure.

 

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why is there so much confusion on your end about what and when everything is going down?

Why the lack of transparency?

 

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I have told Moderators we are shifting strategy overall because it causes traffic but that is a different question you would need to ask and it isn't specific to Arch, it is specific to ACF's overall moderator strategy of the last 4 or 5 years. He just fell within it, as several others did that would have been permabanned back in the day and I do not regret the decision.
What is ACF's Moderator Strategy (Really? There's a Strategy?)... and why did it change?

 

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9? After all that? That's not even a page a year. And at least 7 of those pages have to be MFarce's crush on me....
I know the other 2 have to regard the psycho..../shiver

 

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aon_mixed posted:
why is there so much confusion on your end about what and when everything is going down?

Why the lack of transparency?

I think what happened is that somebody decided to flip the switch and do it really soon, while the rest of the people were not prepared or expected it later.

I don't really know, its all speculation on my part.

However, while typing this, I found out I will get an email "Soon" on what is happening. Soon could be monday for all I know.

 

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If we already have copies of our mod notes, are you going to care if we start posting snippets (that don't contain any user names moderator or otherwise)? Mine for the most part are boring (and rightfully deserved), but my husband has some notes that are just crazy insane hilarious. plain

 

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lol.. Sweet Mary. What a weird woman.

 

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I guess since everyone else is asking... do I have any mod notes?

I will do this once, and once only because you worked for us and were never bad. I edited out the name of the one mod warning you got.

As you can see, this is all admin log stuff for site crap.

xxxxxxx on 10/16/2003 9:48:35 PM wrote: PM sent after involvement in a Sweet Mary thread:
It'd be best that as a representative of IGN, you don't involve yourself in the Sweet Mary flamefests (http://vnboards.ign.com/message.asp?topic=58061524). This includes making any smartass remarks which will instigate more remarks from more posters.




Interesting... wasn't expecting you to post it, thanks. I didn't remember that warning so I had to go back and look through my PMs to see who gave it to me lol.

"Kaelic-II on 10/15/2003 7:12:30 PM wrote: btw, mod can't ban me, I'm VIP"

Lol why is that on there? If I remember right I was saying a mod is not able to ban a VIP, a manager has to do it or de-vip me first.

-Mithan- posted:

Why do people ask?

You ALL have admin notes if you have ever received a PM from a Moderator.


Why did I ask? Because I didn't know that. I've got no idea how the notes and warnings are suppose to work.

 

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I'm guessing that the project manager for this is a complete jackass...

The project tracker should have given out to everyone involved.

 

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9? After all that? That's not even a page a year. And at least 7 of those pages have to be MFarce's crush on me....
I know the other 2 have to regard the psycho..../shiver


lol, butthurt? For someone so anti-gay you couldn't be more accepting to my **** in your ass.

You put yourself into very select company throwing that cute nickname around. In one thread you claim to be an intellectual mastermind, in another you're seven years old. In all of them you consider OTHERS "psycho". laugh

 

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TheUnholyGhost posted:
9? After all that? That's not even a page a year. And at least 7 of those pages have to be MFarce's crush on me....
I know the other 2 have to regard the psycho..../shiver


lol, butthurt? For someone so anti-gay you couldn't be more accepting to my **** in your ass.

You put yourself into very select company throwing that cute nickname around. In one thread you claim to be an intellectual mastermind, in another you're seven years old. In all of them you consider OTHERS "psycho". laugh


Bitter? Party of 1, your table is ready. laugh

 

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Do you remember when you actually used to play MMOs?

 

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Uh.... you can't call someone's name out completely unprovoked and then call that person bitter.

Stick with claiming to be book smart because your understanding of "logic" is embarrassing.

 

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Uh.... you can't call someone's name out completely unprovoked and then call that person bitter.

Stick with claiming to be book smart because your understanding of "logic" is embarrassing.


Why not? It's been done to me all the time, even by you and your "Archmagik" name calling.

I'm just saying.

 

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cry


Fixed. love

 

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What happens if there are duplicate names from the VN and IGN?

I have a toon over there called IMHO.

 

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What happens if there are duplicate names from the VN and IGN?

I have a toon over there called IMHO.



Huh?

Click on your own name ...

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Your name here is your name there.

 

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Personally, I'd just like a legitmate answer why I was permabanned TWICE for things that other people were doing at the same time I was, and to a greater extent. Frequently banned for the same things MY WIFE was saying as well, in less veiled speech.

Don't think it was your doing personally, but I never could fathom why on earth consistent rules couldn't ever have been developed or maintained here.

What's happening to the "vaults" content, like AC Vault? You guys have content on there that I contributed, and frankly, I didn't give rights to IGN to use it, and would rather see it deleted than the hugely remote possibility that they make money off of it.

 

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IMHO posted:
What happens if there are duplicate names from the VN and IGN?

I have a toon over there called IMHO.



Huh?

Click on your own name ...

IMHO
Prime Member, Male

Your name here is your name there.


thinking Interesting.

So it's not so much a duplicates as it is a dual personality.

 

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Hey Mithan ... how about you go goose Teddy and see if you can secure a couple of VIP status passes for a week, and hold a contest on each of the boards that you are moving over (ACF, Outpost, etc).

Maybe something like "Pick the date and time that the "plug will be pulled" for board x" and the person who is closest, gets VIP status for a week on the new place. Obviously you will have to make the cut off date and time something like Sunday at 6pm EST, so no one gets wind of it.

Why not make death fun?

 

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Hey Arch. How about nobody cares, and leave.


Thx.

 

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Hey Arch. How about nobody cares, and leave.

Thx.


Don't H8.

Thx.

 

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Arch_Magi, weren't you a mod at one time?

 

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Arch_Magi, weren't you a mod at one time?


Moderator? No. Not under this alias. No one on vnboard was crazy enough to actually make me a Moderator.

I was a Board Manager though ... specifically, Vanguard Vault.

Normally Managers have Moderator powers by default, but the rumors were that in order to allow me access to the Moderators hidden private board, they would have had to spend over 38,200 hours cleaning up all the posts about me before they could let me in so I wouldn't see all the smack talk done about me, and it was decided to just not give me access to Moderator stuff.

Didn't really matter though, I dated a Moderate, then later on married a different Moderator, not to mention ... well, nevermind ... so I know all to well what went on "behind closed doors".

 

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ohh.. here's a good question.

I got banned for a week or two once.. what was that for?

 

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Arch_Magi posted:
Without naming names, what is the funniest moderator note you've come across in all your years here? Cut and past (with edit) if possible.



I don't remember. We did have a thread on the AC Mod board about this from 5 or 6 years ago. I remember one banned user replying to the UBR with "quack quack quack" and I replied with "Dick stuck in the duck?".




Just for the record. That was not me.

 

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can I see Ducky's ass?

 

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It's my icon.

 

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It's my icon.


that's too small and too covered. sad

 

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What's the longest, non-perma ban that has been given out?

 

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-Ducky- posted:
It's my icon.


that's too small and too covered. sad


Well I can't do anything about the covering but there are larger pictures somewhere in another thread.

 

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What's the longest, non-perma ban that has been given out?


I know I had one that was like 3 years. lol

 

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phantasma_SC posted:
-Ducky- posted:
It's my icon.


that's too small and too covered. sad


Well I can't do anything about the covering but there are larger pictures somewhere in another thread.


Link? Thanks!

 

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Not the best bum pictures:




Happy Valentine's Day ACF tongue

 

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Not the best bum pictures:




Happy Valentine's Day ACF tongue




thats a hit

 

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Not the best bum pictures:




Happy Valentine's Day ACF tongue




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Were Ayn-Rand and Darth_Kamph alts?

 

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I have told Moderators we are shifting strategy overall because it causes traffic but that is a different question you would need to ask and it isn't specific to Arch, it is specific to ACF's overall moderator strategy of the last 4 or 5 years. He just fell within it, as several others did that would have been permabanned back in the day and I do not regret the decision.
What is ACF's Moderator Strategy (Really? There's a Strategy?)... and why did it change?



Here is some of the deal, in brief and leaving out a lot of detail:
(I modded TD from June 2001 to 2003, then I became Admin in summer of 2003, I had AC2HQ for a few years there as well)


Back in the early days, the VN Boards were all run as separate communities. Moderators had very loose rules on what to do on their boards but ran things as they saw fit. This was not consistent across boards obviously and caused issues, but things could be "tuned" to the Community itself. There were pro's and con's to this approach.

In 2002, people in charge decided to start responding to calls of inconsistency, by trying to make all the rules AND how Moderators did things the same across all boards. This was good and bad. Making Moderators consistant is a good thing, forcing all the boards on a forum as varied as Vault Network, was stupid. That being said, the people in charge at that time had nothing to go on so it isn't like they knew any better.

This is also just after IGN purchased us and started changing rules. I still remember the day Tal from IGN dropped into the Global Mod Forum and told us "no profanity is allowed anymore". I remember it because it was a stupid decision done in response to Chylama and others sending in complaints about "profanity" directly to IGN and it should have been done via Profanity Filter. There were other decisions dropped like that, some good and some bad. Again, Tal didn't know the repurcusions of his actions at the time or how many thousands of people would be banned as a result.

When I took over in 2003, the push to "normalize" all the Forums was in place and my directives were pretty clear, so I continued with it and didn't mind it. What I did not like though was the "Sunday Schoolification" of the VN Boards that was happening as a direct response to a minority of people complaining and a specific Manager who prefered this style of Board. I was an "old school" Mod who swore like a sailor until that was removed, so I didn't care for the baby everybody approach but I did it and followed my orders.

Were the people complaining about the boards and this Manager wrong? In my view, yes. The community is full of teenagers and young adults so expecting them to act like they are in a Sunday School (no swearing, be nice to each other, etc, etc) was wrong. Changing the boards to cater to these "complainers" who expected a Sunday School atmosphere was a f***ing travesty.

Anyways, I was initially instructed to continue with the "Sunday Schoolification of the VN Boards", though not in those words but coming in after a Mod Riot and a time when a lot of "Sunday School" mods were hired and directly butted heads with us older school mods, I strove for peace initially, which meant Status Quo, which meant board purges and strict rules and other things. For a while.


The above "strictness" is why you guys got the book slammed at you so often. ACF was considered a s*** hole at the time by most of us, people frequently complained about how ACF was out of control, etc, etc. This happened to other boards too and we stupidly, fell in line and tried to purge it. I used to post on ACF back in the early 200's but stayed off after I was the Admin. We had a lot of pressure and directives to "do something about it" but I had the power to say no, and didn't. That was a failing on my part but I didnt know better at the time.


We did a number of "losening" changes to the rules from 2004 to 2007 and slowly over time the Sunday Schoolers mostly quit but the culture was still there. We also made a LOT of changes to how we moderated, some good and some bad.





In 2007 though, some things became obvious to me:
The boards were in decline, VN was no longer relevant as a network and had a limited lifespan of 2-4 years before it was done (I was off by a year it seems), we were strangling the posters we had left with overly tight rules, no new people were coming because the sites were not good, etc, etc.

Basically, we are too corporate. We can not compete with a start up site like MMO Champion or WoWHead or whatever new site will develop that has all the latest awesome developments in Web Tech going for it for upcoming games like Guild Wars 2 and other games. Why come to our boards when you can go to a Developer Board and have your opinion read?



We tried opening new boards, they failed.


In 2008, I decided to shift focus and focus on what was left to us to focus, which was the "strangling of the posters via the rules". I reasoned that most of you were only here because of habit and "friends" and didn't care about games anymore and just wanted to shoot the s*** about whatever. Tight Rules don't allow that.


I "discussed" changing rules with our entire team and I got too much push back and argument from various corners because what I wanted to do was directly in conflict with the Mod Culutre we had built over the last 8 years. The mod culture of "Sunday School" was strong even though we had an amazing team of Managers and Mods at this point but I think people were just scared.

What did I WANT to do?
I wanted to tear everything down and start over but that wasn't going to happen.


So what DID I do?
I told Teddy I was going to launch a campaign to loosen up the board rules. He was on board. I made some changes to the board rules and instructed the Moderators to "loosen up" all over the boards. This is probably where you got the idea that I was saying ARCH could specifically troll all he wanted. He couldn't, at least no more or less than the rest of you guys trolling.

Then I did what no sane administrator should do and in the summer of 2008, I jumped into the boards and started tearing out the walls we had created. It was my own Shock and Awe.

I think MForce and Foxy freaked out and probably hated me for a bit, but they eventually got over it. At least I hope, because I did a bad thing to them and am sorry for that.
The rest of the Moderators probably figured I was crazy.

Either way, the walls came down on ALL the boards and Moderators had no choice but to loosen up because that is what their crazy administrator who was mysteriously not being fired, had just done to them, whether they liked it or not.



What was the purpose of this? As I said, the writting was on the wall. The VN Sites could not compete with the other sites out there and the VN Boards had no relevance in an age of Developer Boards. I figured I might as well give you guys your freedom back and wait until we closed the doors and merged with IGN, which I actually expected to happen in 2010 or 2011. I reasoned it would stem the bleeding, and it did.


Since 2008, you have pretty much had the same freedoms you had in 2001.
You guys are no longer banned for profanity, can spam threads a lot more, you do your stupid "for fun" copy cast threads, you can troll and argue amongst yourselves, etc.


I don't care if it was right or wrong because at the end of the day, if I had to do the VN Boards over again knowing what I know now, I would have never have taken the job and would have started my own system and retired by now happy

 

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tl;dr


me too.

 

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tl;dr

 

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i have the strangest boner right now


I'm sorry, I'll quit posting again. sad

 

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aon_mixed posted:
i have the strangest boner right now


I'm sorry, I'll quit posting again. sad


want pics of that too?

 

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aon_mixed posted:
phantasma_SC posted:
aon_mixed posted:
i have the strangest boner right now


I'm sorry, I'll quit posting again. sad


want pics of that too?


of me quitting posting? sure.

 

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aon_mixed posted:
I'm guessing that the project manager for this is a complete jackass...

The project tracker should have given out to everyone involved.


No comment.



TheUnholyGhost posted:
9? After all that? That's not even a page a year. And at least 7 of those pages have to be MFarce's crush on me....
I know the other 2 have to regard the psycho..../shiver


To be fair TUG, you always could be a bit of a dick. Even you will admit that.


carnesaur posted:
Do you remember when you actually used to play MMOs?


I still play MMO's.


IMHO posted:
What happens if there are duplicate names from the VN and IGN?

I have a toon over there called IMHO.



That will be your account.


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Personally, I'd just like a legitmate answer why I was permabanned TWICE for things that other people were doing at the same time I was, and to a greater extent. Frequently banned for the same things MY WIFE was saying as well, in less veiled speech.

Don't think it was your doing personally, but I never could fathom why on earth consistent rules couldn't ever have been developed or maintained here.

What's happening to the "vaults" content, like AC Vault? You guys have content on there that I contributed, and frankly, I didn't give rights to IGN to use it, and would rather see it deleted than the hugely remote possibility that they make money off of it.



Well Frax, I don't remember your case specifically but I know I would have had to approve it either by consent or silence. I took a quick look at your notes and you have some pretty colorful quotes there. Seems you were a different guy with some anger 8 years ago.

If you want more details and promise to be mature about it (I am not being snarky either) you can PM the other Managers and ask them. I have no problems with them giving you the requested info. Just realize that things have changed and what you got banned for in 2004 probably hasn't been applicable the last 3 or 4 years.


As for the second question, I have no idea about the content.


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Hey Mithan ... how about you go goose Teddy and see if you can secure a couple of VIP status passes for a week, and hold a contest on each of the boards that you are moving over (ACF, Outpost, etc).

Maybe something like "Pick the date and time that the "plug will be pulled" for board x" and the person who is closest, gets VIP status for a week on the new place. Obviously you will have to make the cut off date and time something like Sunday at 6pm EST, so no one gets wind of it.

Why not make death fun?




When I find out that status's do not copy over, I will give you all VIP for the last few days if I can.


Tipztoe posted:
ohh.. here's a good question.

I got banned for a week or two once.. what was that for?



You have never had a 1 week ban. Chances are they were for 24 or 72 hour bans that you didn't get removed right away.


Hawkson posted:
What's the longest, non-perma ban that has been given out?


All permabans had the right to appeal after a year.


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Were Ayn-Rand and Darth_Kamph alts?


Dont know.

 

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Re: your incredibly long post there - does that account for the differences between how the AC:Darktide board has been managed versus the rest of the boards (including the 'community' boards, ACF/Outpost/etc)?

Even today, but going back at least five years I could open a few threads and see fuck, shit, hell, etc. Even today, four threads down, first post: http://vnboards.ign.com/darktide/b5152/116393018/p1/?55 There's been a huge discrepancy in how the differing boards have been treated.

 

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Re: your incredibly long post there - does that account for the differences between how the AC:Darktide board has been managed versus the rest of the boards (including the 'community' boards, ACF/Outpost/etc)?

Even today, but going back at least five years I could open a few threads and see ***, ***, hell, etc. Even today, four threads down, first post: http://vnboards.ign.com/darktide/b5152/116393018/p1/?55 There's been a huge discrepancy in how the differing boards have been treated.


From 2008 and on, we basically gave them a free ride. Reason explained in the above post.
(Edit: Actually I still tried to lower the racism a bit after 2008 but gave up after two attempts).

Before that, we TRIED to bring them to the same standard as everybody else (which were never aligned perfectly anyways). As I said, it was stupid and never worked. I knew better but still did it.

 

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Ask me anything VN related


Does IGN have a board hosting service like vnboards does/did?

You know, like my "Members only" The Disembodied Hand Sub board?

 

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Yeah, and had I known those things were no longer applicable, I probably would've posted here sometimes in the last four years....but with the assinine threat of banning not only my account, but my wife's account as well if I EVER got another ban pretty much ensured that I was handed a death sentence as far as VN goes.

Board's always been full of hypocrites...I will miss the memory of meeting people at parties, but I doubt I will have any long-lingering sadness over VN, unfortunately. My anger was because people were STUPID. They still are. You still can not bring up a valid complaint anywhere in a Turbine game owned forum about mechanics without 10 people flocking to your assistance, and 500 ignorant fools foisting themselves on their own petards just to get their heads up the dev's ass a bit further. I wish that back in the day, the mods would have banned the people that were actually starting arguments, not just the people starting a THREAD, or responding to the troll. Hindsight is 20/20 I guess, but frankly, it's not like anyone had a choice to use anything BUT VNBoards in the days before tradebots if you wanted to buy or sell gear. Once people got that you could go on VN, hanging out in a town to barter was dead. Tradebots and global just exterminated the boards.

I'm looking forward to getting some money so I can try out the combat changes, but not to posting on IGN about it. Won't be posting on Turbine's board either. Maybe if this one carries over I might give it a look.

Are you staying on "staff" with IGN at all?

 

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Makes sense. For what it's worth, I've had plenty of problems with individual moderators but anytime I've actually dealt with you or any of your other assistant managers you've been very helpful/civil/etc. Thank you for everything you've done, Mithan.

 

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Jennifer_the_Great posted:
Makes sense. For what it's worth, I've had plenty of problems with individual moderators but anytime I've actually dealt with you or any of your other assistant managers you've been very helpful/civil/etc. Thank you for everything you've done, Mithan.


I've always tried to be as honest as I can with people which is something even most of the guys who hated me for whatever reason, usually agreed with.

I still to this day think I have never actually lied about something. With hold information, yes, lie? No. Be a dick at times? Ya, I have my moments.



The Moderators usually tried to do the best they could with what they had. I wouldn't be too hard on them.

 

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was your service rewarded with something more than a stipend?
no, im not asking how many loonies or jars of poutine you received...

 

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Yeah, and had I known those things were no longer applicable, I probably would've posted here sometimes in the last four years....but with the assinine threat of banning not only my account, but my wife's account as well if I EVER got another ban pretty much ensured that I was handed a death sentence as far as VN goes.

Board's always been full of hypocrites...I will miss the memory of meeting people at parties, but I doubt I will have any long-lingering sadness over VN, unfortunately. My anger was because people were STUPID. They still are. You still can not bring up a valid complaint anywhere in a Turbine game owned forum about mechanics without 10 people flocking to your assistance, and 500 ignorant fools foisting themselves on their own petards just to get their heads up the dev's ass a bit further. I wish that back in the day, the mods would have banned the people that were actually starting arguments, not just the people starting a THREAD, or responding to the troll. Hindsight is 20/20 I guess, but frankly, it's not like anyone had a choice to use anything BUT VNBoards in the days before tradebots if you wanted to buy or sell gear. Once people got that you could go on VN, hanging out in a town to barter was dead. Tradebots and global just exterminated the boards.

I'm looking forward to getting some money so I can try out the combat changes, but not to posting on IGN about it. Won't be posting on Turbine's board either. Maybe if this one carries over I might give it a look.

Are you staying on "staff" with IGN at all?


One of our directives was to cater to Developers. Period.

VNBoards were big because of the trade posts, true. You had no option back then.

As for the "hypocrites" argument, it seems to me you are too passionate. Take Diablo 3 and me for example. I am currently extremely excited for that game and when I see stupid comments from people on the boards, I want to flame them but I know there is no point. Why worry about it or get myself banned for it?

I don't know what Teddy plans to do with me. I've offered to go Admin for a few weeks to help him transition, then I will probably be dumped to a Moderator.

I've even considered hosting alternate VN Boards but if it wasn't for feeling like I was betraying Teddy, I would have done that already.







 

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Kaelic-II on 10/15/2003 7:12:30 PM wrote: btw, mod can't ban me, I'm VIP
Sheyla on 10/1/2003 1:45:06 PM wrote: VIP'd this date, per Paraduck.
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I swear to god those are in reference to me.

 

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was your service rewarded with something more than a stipend?
no, im not asking how many loonies or jars of poutine you received...


I was payed $50 a month from 2003 to 2004 or so. Then I think I got $150 until late 2007 or early 2008.
I have been "volunteer" like the Mods for 4 years now.


Incidentally, I did get 3 or 4 years of IGN Prime given to me but the account is broken. Figures.

 

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Have you enjoyed your time here? Which board do you consider your "home" board.

Can you help me find the greatest thread ever which was something like "Gof thees bars in Tornto kik aas im soooo wsted"?

 

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So post counts arent moving over? That's bullcrap

I did say I dont know yet.

I hope they move. I want my 50k added to my 17k on IGN.

 

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I thought he said he didn't know?



-Mithan- posted:
Ptilk posted:
If I get perma banned in the week we have left, will I be renewed and forgiven when the merge happens?

Not that I would ever do that or anything, it's just has to do with a thought experiment I am currently running thru and stuff. tongue


While I doubt anything account related will cary over (post counts, bans, etc), I don't know. It could cause issues so don't do anything that stupid.

 

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so I read most of it up to page 6 and then I started skimming, so I might have missed this...

Do I have it correct that whatever (if any) account on IGN will be our new account?...so I should probably put something in my signature or something for my name, or make a new one?

I guess all the server boards will be merged into one or something? that kind of sucks.

 

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Hawkson posted:
I thought he said he didn't know?



-Mithan- posted:
Ptilk posted:
If I get perma banned in the week we have left, will I be renewed and forgiven when the merge happens?

Not that I would ever do that or anything, it's just has to do with a thought experiment I am currently running thru and stuff. tongue


While I doubt anything account related will cary over (post counts, bans, etc), I don't know. It could cause issues so don't do anything that stupid.



We don't know anything yet Pris.



ArchrikerHG posted:
so I read most of it up to page 6 and then I started skimming, so I might have missed this...

Do I have it correct that whatever (if any) account on IGN will be our new account?...so I should probably put something in my signature or something for my name, or make a new one?

I guess all the server boards will be merged into one or something? that kind of sucks.


I would assume the IGN account that already exists for you will be your "new" account when the change happens. That would make sense to me.

What I don't know is if aspects of THIS account will be transfered. When I say that, I mean post count, admin notes, registration date, post history, etc. Obviously if some boards are moving, then some of your posts history will move, but does that mean your post count will transfer? Dont know.

 

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Can I get the _LC dropped from my name?


 

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TheUnholyGhost posted:
9? After all that? That's not even a page a year. And at least 7 of those pages have to be MFarce's crush on me....
I know the other 2 have to regard the psycho..../shiver


To be fair TUG, you always could be a bit of a dick. Even you will admit that.



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Achim_LC posted:


Can I get the _LC dropped from my name?





Make a new account I guess.
IF post counts don't get moved over, now would be a good time. If you stay of course.

 

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I knew you were gonna say that. Bah.

 

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Is the WoW Asylum board gonna be lost in the sands of VN time?

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Are Foxy and Dune going to be downsized?

From what I understand, they will stay with the board if they want. No details yet.

 

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Are Foxy and Dune going to be downsized?


I suspect they have to move to India.

 

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HeartView posted:
Are Foxy and Dune going to be downsized?


I suspect they have to move to India.


The hard way or the easy way?

 

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Why aren't permabans permanent? Furthermore, why aren't multiple permabans permanent?

 

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ok, I'll bite ... How many pages is my mod notes?

 

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was your service rewarded with something more than a stipend?
no, im not asking how many loonies or jars of poutine you received...


I was payed $50 a month from 2003 to 2004 or so. Then I think I got $150 until late 2007 or early 2008.
I have been "volunteer" like the Mods for 4 years now.


Incidentally, I did get 3 or 4 years of IGN Prime given to me but the account is broken. Figures.



$150 a month? You're shitting me? I got $300 a month from IGN as a Board Manager for VGV. I'd figure a Senior Manager would have gotten between $500 and $1000 a month.

 

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My mod notes are full of jealousy because I'm such a an awesome sexy bitch, right?


 

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-Mithan- posted:
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was your service rewarded with something more than a stipend?
no, im not asking how many loonies or jars of poutine you received...


I was payed $50 a month from 2003 to 2004 or so. Then I think I got $150 until late 2007 or early 2008.
I have been "volunteer" like the Mods for 4 years now.


Incidentally, I did get 3 or 4 years of IGN Prime given to me but the account is broken. Figures.



$150 a month? You're shitting me? I got $300 a month from IGN as a Board Manager for VGV. I'd figure a Senior Manager would have gotten between $500 and $1000 a month.


Site manager*

 

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kigaro posted:
My mod notes are full of jealousy because I'm such a an awesome sexy bitch, right?






I dunno what it means.

 

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That makes two of us.

 

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Is there going to be a redirect link from here, or do we just have to go rummaging about on IGN to find ACF?

 

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Arch_Magi posted:
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[quote=aon_mixed]was your service rewarded with something more than a stipend?
no, im not asking how many loonies or jars of poutine you received...


I was payed $50 a month from 2003 to 2004 or so. Then I think I got $150 until late 2007 or early 2008.
I have been "volunteer" like the Mods for 4 years now.


Incidentally, I did get 3 or 4 years of IGN Prime given to me but the account is broken. Figures.



$150 a month? You're shitting me? I got $300 a month from IGN as a Board Manager for VGV. I'd figure a Senior Manager would have gotten between $500 and $1000 a month.


Site manager*[/quote]

 

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Is there going to be a redirect link from here, or do we just have to go rummaging about on IGN to find ACF?


This is actually the most pertinent question asked probably in the whole thread.

 

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Why aren't permabans permanent? Furthermore, why aren't multiple permabans permanent?


Because we allowed appeals on them.

Brother_Tempus posted:
ok, I'll bite ... How many pages is my mod notes?


3

Arch_Magi posted:
-Mithan- posted:
aon_mixed posted:
was your service rewarded with something more than a stipend?
no, im not asking how many loonies or jars of poutine you received...


I was payed $50 a month from 2003 to 2004 or so. Then I think I got $150 until late 2007 or early 2008.
I have been "volunteer" like the Mods for 4 years now.


Incidentally, I did get 3 or 4 years of IGN Prime given to me but the account is broken. Figures.



$150 a month? You're shitting me? I got $300 a month from IGN as a Board Manager for VGV. I'd figure a Senior Manager would have gotten between $500 and $1000 a month.



You were a Site Manager, not a Board Manager.


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Is there going to be a redirect link from here, or do we just have to go rummaging about on IGN to find ACF?


I am assuming the vnboards.ign.com domain will redirect to boards.ign.com and there will be a VN Boards Catagory right there in your face to click on.

But I dont know.

 

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I am assuming the vnboards.ign.com domain will redirect to boards.ign.com and there will be a VN Boards Catagory right there in your face to click on.

But I dont know.


Not trying to be a dick but let's say the end of ACF comes crashing all at once in our sleep without any warning, is it cool if we contact you directly for a link considering the lack of a network at that time? I mean I would assume they would redirect as well for at least a time, but assuming they don't we've got to be able to hear it from someone first :\

 

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-Mithan- posted:

I am assuming the vnboards.ign.com domain will redirect to boards.ign.com and there will be a VN Boards Catagory right there in your face to click on.

But I dont know.


Not trying to be a dick but let's say the end of ACF comes crashing all at once in our sleep without any warning, is it cool if we contact you directly for a link considering the lack of a network at that time? I mean I would assume they would redirect as well for at least a time, but assuming they don't we've got to be able to hear it from someone first :\

I will provide you with the link now:
http://www.ign.com/boards/

Awesome eh?

When you go there after the boards merge, you will probably see a Vault Network Boards catagory.

 

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You were a Site Manager, not a Board Manager.


What ever. I am just surprised that your pay SUCKED that badly.

 

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I will provide you with the link now:
http://www.ign.com/boards/

Awesome eh?

When you go there after the boards merge, you will probably see a Vault Network Boards catagory.


Hey thanks!

 

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Dodo bird.

 

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if the vn boards were an animal, which animal would they be


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You were a Site Manager, not a Board Manager.


What ever. I am just surprised that your pay SUCKED that badly.



I never did it for the money I did it cause I actually liked the community.

 

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Can we bomb this place with TOS stuff in the hours leading up its closure? thinking

 

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Can we bomb this place with TOS stuff in the hours leading up its closure? thinking


Already said they're going to continue banning on the chance it carries over so GO FOR IT!

 

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who posted, osmeth...however you spell it

also, why hasnt the vn search has not been fixed, i once was an insider and i demand a refund!


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Can we bomb this place with TOS stuff in the hours leading up its closure? thinking


Already said they're going to continue banning on the chance it carries over so GO FOR IT!



BOO!!!!!!!!! sad

 

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Uh.... you can't call someone's name out completely unprovoked and then call that person bitter.

Stick with claiming to be book smart because your understanding of "logic" is embarrassing.


Why not? It's been done to me all the time, even by you and your "Archmagik" name calling.

I'm just saying.




Hey, look who is back on acf! The guy who doesn't like, doesn't care about, and said he would never come back to act but every time he comes back. Literally the FIRST DAY he is permitted back, here he is.

So ok, please entertain me puppet master. When did I call you that? I don't remember, so please show me where I called you that name you quoted me saying. I'm curious wwhen I was "name calling" and I would never put it past you to have a book logging every time it happened. You know, because you don't care about acf.

 

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notmforce2k posted:
Uh.... you can't call someone's name out completely unprovoked and then call that person bitter.

Stick with claiming to be book smart because your understanding of "logic" is embarrassing.


Why not? It's been done to me all the time, even by you and your "Archmagik" name calling.

I'm just saying.




Hey, look who is back on acf! The guy who doesn't like, doesn't care about, and said he would never come back to act but every time he comes back. Literally the FIRST DAY he is permitted back, here he is.

So ok, please entertain me puppet master. When did I call you that? I don't remember, so please show me where I called you that name you quoted me saying. I'm curious wwhen I was "name calling" and I would never put it past you to have a book logging every time it happened. You know, because you don't care about acf.



hahahha

 

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You were a Site Manager, not a Board Manager.




Assistant TO the regional manager.

 

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You were a Site Manager, not a Board Manager.




Assistant TO the regional manager.


Do you have my TPS reports?

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Have you enjoyed your time here? Which board do you consider your "home" board.

Can you help me find the greatest thread ever which was something like "Gof thees bars in Tornto kik aas im soooo wsted"?



LOL i forgot about that thread. Who wrote that?

 

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the whole sunday school modding sounds about right. Im guessing thats why Kardon was allowed to mod as he did for so long?  He had a huge chip on his shoulder and pretty much took it out on the small gay community that was here on the boards. Im guessing 99% of my mod notes are from him alone.

 

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Hey, look who is back on acf! The guy who doesn't like, doesn't care about, and said he would never come back to act but every time he comes back. Literally the FIRST DAY he is permitted back, here he is.

So ok, please entertain me puppet master. When did I call you that? I don't remember, so please show me where I called you that name you quoted me saying. I'm curious wwhen I was "name calling" and I would never put it past you to have a book logging every time it happened. You know, because you don't care about acf.


Aren't fat people supposed to be jolly?

 

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Oh, look who is back. I saw you run away from our last spat so I figured you checked out of ACF for the day. Still at work, I'm guessing?

 

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the whole sunday school modding sounds about right. Im guessing thats why Kardon was allowed to mod as he did for so long?  He had a huge chip on his shoulder and pretty much took it out on the small gay community that was here on the boards. Im guessing 99% of my mod notes are from him alone.



Lol you are actually gay? I always thought you just wanted to troll my opinion on man to man sex.

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notmforce2k posted:

Hey, look who is back on acf! The guy who doesn't like, doesn't care about, and said he would never come back to act but every time he comes back. Literally the FIRST DAY he is permitted back, here he is.

So ok, please entertain me puppet master. When did I call you that? I don't remember, so please show me where I called you that name you quoted me saying. I'm curious wwhen I was "name calling" and I would never put it past you to have a book logging every time it happened. You know, because you don't care about acf.


Aren't fat people supposed to be jolly?


Usually, at least I was when I was fat. I'm guessing it has more to do with lack of sex than body weight.

 

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why's mforce gotta be all bitchy and stuff... so lame.

 

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why's mforce gotta be all bitchy and stuff... so lame.


I know, it's harshing my mellow.

 

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Asking the obligatory "how long are my mod notes" question.Thanks.



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I wonder if Pris could just write a script to roll through each users mod notes and just to a page count and post it. wink

 

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mightbe posted:
who posted, osmeth...however you spell it

also, why hasnt the vn search has not been fixed, i once was an insider and i demand a refund!


also, can i get some candy drooling


Nobody cared about it.

 

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How come I never received a magazine with my insider.

 

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Do I even HAVE mod notes?


Three pages

 

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i dont give a crap what mods put down about me, after i found out that i pulled a ban for posting images, i was like... yo mods b dum yo

and not against the TOS images, just images and no other text associated with it

 

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Do I even HAVE mod notes?


Three pages




 

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Do I even HAVE mod notes?


Three pages


How many pages do I have?

 

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How many pages do I have?

 

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who exactly logged into Yuki's account after he "died"?

 

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Interested in my notes given I was demoded for hearsay (OMG WE TOTALLY KNOW Mal logged in on me and banned people, when the people that were banned were done by me and very clearly deserved it wink ) since people complained when I was asked to strictly mod Guin and then did since they did not want it to be another ACF (don't know why).

 

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who exactly logged into Yuki's account after he "died"?


Oh good one. confused

 

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-Prismatic- posted:
How many pages do I have?



Same question.

 

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the whole sunday school modding sounds about right. Im guessing thats why Kardon was allowed to mod as he did for so long?  He had a huge chip on his shoulder and pretty much took it out on the small gay community that was here on the boards. Im guessing 99% of my mod notes are from him alone.
Lol you are actually gay? I always thought you just wanted to troll my opinion on man to man sex. Sorry dude.
 



 

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Do you really think I meant the above statement Non?

Trollololololed.

 

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Do you really think I meant the above statement Non? Trollololololed.
no, I didnt...hence the facepalms :P

 

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but back on topic, how many pages are my mod notes?(I figured that was implied by my first post, guess not lol)

 

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Do you really think I meant the above statement Non? Trollololololed.
no, I didnt...hence the facepalms :P

Ok good. Cause I thought gay people were smart.

 

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i dont give a crap what mods put down about me, after i found out that i pulled a ban for posting images, i was like... yo mods b dum yo

and not against the TOS images, just images and no other text associated with it


One time I got banned because I posted an image of a guy pointing a shotgun at a plastic Ronald McDonald over at FF. It was a joke to a user who got the joke and thought it was funny. I, however, got a ban for it. Not from Clint, either, who probably did the majority of my bans/edits.

 

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Do you really think I meant the above statement Non? Trollololololed.
no, I didnt...hence the facepalms :P
Ok good. Cause I thought gay people were smart.
oh we totally are, and we like shopping and fashion and REALLY girly things like hot bubble baths and gossiping with our good gurl friends!

 

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I think the best image I ever got banned for posting was the "Free TehHunt" picture. 48 hours of epic lols.

 

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why?

oh and tequila has always made me drunk before my time....

 

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why?

oh and tequila has always made me drunk before my time....


true that, ive seen your tits

 

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Let's break the 'how many do I have' trend. What do you feel is the worst mistake or misstep you ever made with the VN Boards, Mithan? In other words, what one thing would you do differently now that hindsight is 20/20?

 

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i am guessing that my mod notes are 6 pages cow

 

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why?

oh and tequila has always made me drunk before my time....


true that, ive seen your tits

How many haven't you seen?

 

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Uh.... you can't call someone's name out completely unprovoked and then call that person bitter.

Stick with claiming to be book smart because your understanding of "logic" is embarrassing.


Why not? It's been done to me all the time, even by you and your "Archmagik" name calling.

I'm just saying.




it's archmagic

 

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why?

oh and tequila has always made me drunk before my time....


true that, ive seen your tits

How many haven't you seen?


at least two that I know of.

 

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Joins everyone else....

Mod notes etc

Guessing 1 page or less, I think I had 1 incident or so. I was boring on here in the last 10 years. tongue

 

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I think the best image I ever got banned for posting was the "Free TehHunt" picture. 48 hours of epic lols.


<3

Oh, Mithan... How many pages? grin

 

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-Mithan- posted:
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Do I even HAVE mod notes?


Three pages








well you know I star banned you...

EVERY time we touch anything...noted.

 

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I think it's about dadgum time for some info on my Cletus and Ginsu mod notes. I wanna know. I WANNA KNOW

 

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I think it's about dadgum time for some info on my Cletus and Ginsu mod notes. I wanna know. I WANNA KNOW


EFF YES

 

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Mithan, what are mod notes?

Are you a guy or a girl? Sometimes your profile said either or.

Are there going to be any boards for any of the MMO's (Vnboards was mainly MMO boards) on the IGN side?

Did you make a lot off of AC2HQ? tongue

 

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why's mforce gotta be all bitchy and stuff... so lame.


I know, it's harshing my mellow.



Oh cool, you're back. So where is the proof of all the "archmagik" silliness?

 

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mforce, why are you being such a prissy bitch? seriously?

 

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Oh hey look, it's Ginsu.

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mforce, why are you being such a prissy bitch? seriously?


There is a serious need for collective unbunching in this thread...

 

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I was initially going to play it off with a PMS joke or something but I was called out by Arch so I'd like to know wtf he's talking about. He is the amazing puppet master, afterall, so why would he lie to us? I just want to know what I'm forgetting.

 

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Oh hey look, it's Ginsu.

peace


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My how the tables have turned now that someone no longer has their colors. When someone calls them out on a chat board and they demand satisfaction and it isn't immediately provided, because "I really, really don't care. I'm not angry or spiteful, I just really don't care. Blah, blah, blah, blah. I don't have time to deal with post counts and drama on a message board ... blah, blah, blah" they blow a head gasket and demand this and that.

My how the tables have turned.

 

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Will I get to keep my title or a title?

I don't know about non (whatever Insider is now called) accounts, but I have an option in my Preferences over there for any title I'd like.

 

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Arch_Magi posted:
Oh hey look, it's Ginsu.

peace


Good evening lover.


Life been treating you well I hope?

 

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Will I get to keep my title or a title?

I don't know about non (whatever Insider is now called) accounts, but I have an option in my Preferences over there for any title I'd like.


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Will I get to keep my title or a title?

I don't know about non (whatever Insider is now called) accounts, but I have an option in my Preferences over there for any title I'd like.


Well, if you pay the $25 a year, you get "IGN Prime" and that gives you colors, a title you can change at any time, a large avatar (that can even be animated, etc). Basically it is a paid for VIP status here.

Dunno if they will transfer titles for non-paying customers there, but knowing IGN, I doubt it.

 

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And ...


300!

 

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I just realized I'm going to have to go through all my old PM's and make sure I copied all the recipes I got from people here.

Crap.

 

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Mithan, what are mod notes?

Are you a guy or a girl? Sometimes your profile said either or.

Are there going to be any boards for any of the MMO's (Vnboards was mainly MMO boards) on the IGN side?

Did you make a lot off of AC2HQ? tongue


Notes we used to record what you said when being warned or banned.

Guy. I've screwed with people over the years.

There are some. Burried deep though.... I might do something on my own for the rest.

I sold ac2hq for $3k. If I knew anything at the time, the 25 million page views a month would have made me a lot more. I wasn't in it for the money so I didn't really know....I just wanted the best game site on the net.

 

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How many gigs (or teras) bytes of data will be freed up when vnboards is shut down and the drives eventually reformatted/erased/destroyed?

 

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Destroyed? No... Sent to the FBI undoubtedly.

We all know who Mithan's overlord is

 

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Destroyed? No... Sent to the FBI undoubtedly.

We all know who Mithan's overlord is


Well, that generates another good question ...

What will happen to all the data? Will it be kept "forever", will it be eventually deleted, will it be sold off to some company to data-mine, etc?

 

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The point was that you made an accusation against me and you've got nothing at all to support it. It has nothing to do with colors or demands, those were YOUR words and have nothing at all to do with this.

The burden of proof is on the accuser and surprise, the liar lied.

 

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Both of you STFU or go red. No one wants to hear you two bitch and moan with each other.

 

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ASS TO ASS
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Both of you STFU or go red. No one wants to hear you two bitch and moan with each other.


I'm not the one who is bitching and ranting.

Besides, I love you Hunt.

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mforce has kidney stones in his vagina

 

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Who has the quote about sand in their vagina. Something like... Was it hard to put all that sand up there? Or did you just zoom around the beach like a Roomba? I need to save it for future use.

 

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Have you enjoyed your time here? Which board do you consider your "home" board.

Can you help me find the greatest thread ever which was something like "Gof thees bars in Tornto kik aas im soooo wsted"?



LOL i forgot about that thread. Who wrote that?



I forget, but I want to say it was a guy with a girlish username. It is on the tip of my tongue

 

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Has anyone asked something along these lines yet?


Mithan, has your involvement with these boards generally been a plus, a break even or a minus for you? And you can use any facet you like as your criteria for answering that.

 

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I want some goddamn written proof of how I wasted my youth being cool and edgy on an internet gaming forum. (seriously)

 

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Hey, if you won't tell. I won't either.

 

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kigaro should totally show her edgy funbags on this thread in the form of a question that is VN related

 

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You've seen them.


I think the question was implied. If not...

Oh please Mithan daddy?

I wouldn't have a problem showing off my old tits but I guess the rules are still intact for now. I don't wanna miss acfs last days.

 

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-Prismatic- posted:
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AkagiyamaMissile posted:
Do I even HAVE mod notes?


Three pages


How many pages do I have?


Look yourself and find out.


Immortal_Haze posted:
-Prismatic- posted:
How many pages do I have?



Not even a full page. Keener.


Unarmed-Yarr posted:
who exactly logged into Yuki's account after he "died"?


I don't remember or know. If you PM his account link, I will see if we have it on the notes. Not saying I will post it, but I might. That my decision to make.


Lothland posted:
Interested in my notes given I was demoded for hearsay (OMG WE TOTALLY KNOW Mal logged in on me and banned people, when the people that were banned were done by me and very clearly deserved it wink ) since people complained when I was asked to strictly mod Guin and then did since they did not want it to be another ACF (don't know why).


I don't remember you being fired. What I can say is this:
Any moderator we ever fired, we had a lot of reasoning as to why and not all those reasons were ever told to the Moderator. I personally hated firing people from a volunteer job. It sucked and caused me the most anxiety out of anything here so we always did other things to get around it.

As for you specifically, based on what you said, I am assuming we fired you for access issues? There were some "questionable" Moderators that we suspected of leaking notes or giving their accesses out to others intentionally or unintentionally. Over time, we would hear of this or set up traps to monitor the Moderator and his account in question. At that point, if we had strong suspicions, we fired you and moved on. I am sure we got some innocent people in the process but this is a game forum, not Real Life, so it was an acceptable loss in my mind and usually, I would tell them that while we have no proof, we can't take the risk and keep them on and we are sorry.

Anyways, if you were fired for something like this, I am not sorry abut it. All I would be sorry for is you getting into that situation in the first place. Either way, I was not going to take that risk. I hope you understand my reasoning.

MForce was legitimately hacked though, since I know this will come up. I have no doubt about that in my mind.

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[quote=Immortal_Haze][quote=-Prismatic-]How many pages do I have?
[/quote]

Same question.[/quote]

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but back on topic, how many pages are my mod notes?(I figured that was implied by my first post, guess not lol)



6

[quote=Anebriated]i am guessing that my mod notes are 6 pages cow [/quote]

8

[quote=The_Original_Airmail]Joins everyone else....

Mod notes etc

Guessing 1 page or less, I think I had 1 incident or so. I was boring on here in the last 10 years. tongue [/quote]

Less than one. You are boring.

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Mithan... you didn't answer now many pages I had. :/

 

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Are notes viewable to us? If so, how?

 

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Why do ACFers and moderators deny the existence of Bonk?

 

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I figured that would be the response, it wasn't anyone accessing my account it was the forum trolls that hated Mal so much and we were living together (obviously married now) so they constantly said she was on my account (she never knew my password). Not like I care I was just wondering if there was notes about it since I know it was BS but you guys do what you do and it was years in the past.

It was not like Mforce (compromised) or the other mods that leaked notes or had people with different IP's that had hacked accounts just posters knowing RL information and saying Mal was getting on my account and banning them (which would have been easy to track and didn't happen) and lying to Desi wink

 

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Of course ACF has to get worse right before the end....

 

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who exactly logged into Yuki's account after he "died"?


I don't remember or know. If you PM his account link, I will see if we have it on the notes. Not saying I will post it, but I might. That my decision to make.



Not sure on his account linke, looks like its not set up for IGN, Here's his board history link tho
http://vnboards.ign.com/UserPages/PostHistory.aspx?usr=56686

 

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Ardenwolfe posted:
Let's break the 'how many do I have' trend. What do you feel is the worst mistake or misstep you ever made with the VN Boards, Mithan? In other words, what one thing would you do differently now that hindsight is 20/20?


Here are three answers:


With what I KNOW today, and without giving the "I wouldn't take the job" answer, which could be entirely true, I think what I would do today different is fire all the moderators and managers when I started, delete all the processes, change the culture and start over on vBulletin. Obviously, I would of rehired a lot of the people I fired, but under my own terms and conditions.



If I went back and DIDNT know what I know now?
I honestly wouldn't do too much differently. As I said, the mistakes I/we made were based on the assumptions and reasoning we made at the time. This was done in our spare time and we were all learning what was basically a new field at the time.



Biggest Mistakes based on what I know NOW?
Three big mistakes.

My biggest mistake was this:
We (for various reasons, some good and some bad) wanted you all to comply with the board rules as they were initially written, on every board (else why have them in the first place). This is fine in theory but not so fine in Practice. It is not right for me to go into established communities and say "We are making rule changes. You now have to change what was perfectly acceptable behavior in the past, to comply with the new rules or just ENFORCEMENT of OLD rules or you get booted".

In the old days, we all picked and choose our rules for our own boards, based on the Community. Moderators that wanted to enter long established communities and "change them" always failed. This was a known fact to me because that is what I did on TD and most people there liked me and had no issues with me. On my AC2HQ forums, which I grew to about 5000 posts a day from nothing, the same thing was in place.

When I took over, I had been given some prerogatives and was required to CHANGE THINGS. Plus as I have said before, I had competing cultures and such here, which is why I said I would fire everybody if I had to redo it. I knew this wasn't going to work, but did what I was told to do. A lot of good moderators "died" over this unfortunately and a lot of the hate you guys have for some "bad" moderators comes from this.

Reality slowly crept in by 2005 and that is when we started to ease things and allow the board rules to conform to the communities more and that was the RIGHT decision. It happened slowly at first and then quicker later on.



Second biggest mistake was actually changing rules based on tiny vocal minorities of people complaining:
I always hated doing this but my stubbornness eventually ended this. It did a LOT of damage to the boards though, including board purges, retarded rules, etc, etc.

Third biggest mistake was not moving us to vBulletin when IGN gave me the chance:
I was worried Zerosleep would loose his job.







 

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Gandalf_of_the_Shire posted:
Are notes viewable to us? If so, how?


No and they never will be if I have a say in it.


-TheHunt- posted:
Mithan... you didn't answer now many pages I had. :/


The post above ate it.

7 pages


 

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Mithan:

What if the notes didn't have names attached? I'm curious to see my notes out of a guilty pleasure of seeing what I've done over the years. Why are you against it?

 

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I have told Moderators we are shifting strategy overall because it causes traffic but that is a different question you would need to ask and it isn't specific to Arch, it is specific to ACF's overall moderator strategy of the last 4 or 5 years. He just fell within it, as several others did that would have been permabanned back in the day and I do not regret the decision.
What is ACF's Moderator Strategy (Really? There's a Strategy?)... and why did it change?



Here is some of the deal, in brief and leaving out a lot of detail:
(I modded TD from June 2001 to 2003, then I became Admin in summer of 2003, I had AC2HQ for a few years there as well)


Back in the early days, the VN Boards were all run as separate communities. Moderators had very loose rules on what to do on their boards but ran things as they saw fit. This was not consistent across boards obviously and caused issues, but things could be "tuned" to the Community itself. There were pro's and con's to this approach.

In 2002, people in charge decided to start responding to calls of inconsistency, by trying to make all the rules AND how Moderators did things the same across all boards. This was good and bad. Making Moderators consistant is a good thing, forcing all the boards on a forum as varied as Vault Network, was stupid. That being said, the people in charge at that time had nothing to go on so it isn't like they knew any better.

This is also just after IGN purchased us and started changing rules. I still remember the day Tal from IGN dropped into the Global Mod Forum and told us "no profanity is allowed anymore". I remember it because it was a stupid decision done in response to Chylama and others sending in complaints about "profanity" directly to IGN and it should have been done via Profanity Filter. There were other decisions dropped like that, some good and some bad. Again, Tal didn't know the repurcusions of his actions at the time or how many thousands of people would be banned as a result.

When I took over in 2003, the push to "normalize" all the Forums was in place and my directives were pretty clear, so I continued with it and didn't mind it. What I did not like though was the "Sunday Schoolification" of the VN Boards that was happening as a direct response to a minority of people complaining and a specific Manager who prefered this style of Board. I was an "old school" Mod who swore like a sailor until that was removed, so I didn't care for the baby everybody approach but I did it and followed my orders.

Were the people complaining about the boards and this Manager wrong? In my view, yes. The community is full of teenagers and young adults so expecting them to act like they are in a Sunday School (no swearing, be nice to each other, etc, etc) was wrong. Changing the boards to cater to these "complainers" who expected a Sunday School atmosphere was a f***ing travesty.

Anyways, I was initially instructed to continue with the "Sunday Schoolification of the VN Boards", though not in those words but coming in after a Mod Riot and a time when a lot of "Sunday School" mods were hired and directly butted heads with us older school mods, I strove for peace initially, which meant Status Quo, which meant board purges and strict rules and other things. For a while.


The above "strictness" is why you guys got the book slammed at you so often. ACF was considered a s*** hole at the time by most of us, people frequently complained about how ACF was out of control, etc, etc. This happened to other boards too and we stupidly, fell in line and tried to purge it. I used to post on ACF back in the early 200's but stayed off after I was the Admin. We had a lot of pressure and directives to "do something about it" but I had the power to say no, and didn't. That was a failing on my part but I didnt know better at the time.


We did a number of "losening" changes to the rules from 2004 to 2007 and slowly over time the Sunday Schoolers mostly quit but the culture was still there. We also made a LOT of changes to how we moderated, some good and some bad.





In 2007 though, some things became obvious to me:
The boards were in decline, VN was no longer relevant as a network and had a limited lifespan of 2-4 years before it was done (I was off by a year it seems), we were strangling the posters we had left with overly tight rules, no new people were coming because the sites were not good, etc, etc.

Basically, we are too corporate. We can not compete with a start up site like MMO Champion or WoWHead or whatever new site will develop that has all the latest awesome developments in Web Tech going for it for upcoming games like Guild Wars 2 and other games. Why come to our boards when you can go to a Developer Board and have your opinion read?



We tried opening new boards, they failed.


In 2008, I decided to shift focus and focus on what was left to us to focus, which was the "strangling of the posters via the rules". I reasoned that most of you were only here because of habit and "friends" and didn't care about games anymore and just wanted to shoot the s*** about whatever. Tight Rules don't allow that.


I "discussed" changing rules with our entire team and I got too much push back and argument from various corners because what I wanted to do was directly in conflict with the Mod Culutre we had built over the last 8 years. The mod culture of "Sunday School" was strong even though we had an amazing team of Managers and Mods at this point but I think people were just scared.

What did I WANT to do?
I wanted to tear everything down and start over but that wasn't going to happen.


So what DID I do?
I told Teddy I was going to launch a campaign to loosen up the board rules. He was on board. I made some changes to the board rules and instructed the Moderators to "loosen up" all over the boards. This is probably where you got the idea that I was saying ARCH could specifically troll all he wanted. He couldn't, at least no more or less than the rest of you guys trolling.

Then I did what no sane administrator should do and in the summer of 2008, I jumped into the boards and started tearing out the walls we had created. It was my own Shock and Awe.

I think MForce and Foxy freaked out and probably hated me for a bit, but they eventually got over it. At least I hope, because I did a bad thing to them and am sorry for that.
The rest of the Moderators probably figured I was crazy.

Either way, the walls came down on ALL the boards and Moderators had no choice but to loosen up because that is what their crazy administrator who was mysteriously not being fired, had just done to them, whether they liked it or not.



What was the purpose of this? As I said, the writting was on the wall. The VN Sites could not compete with the other sites out there and the VN Boards had no relevance in an age of Developer Boards. I figured I might as well give you guys your freedom back and wait until we closed the doors and merged with IGN, which I actually expected to happen in 2010 or 2011. I reasoned it would stem the bleeding, and it did.


Since 2008, you have pretty much had the same freedoms you had in 2001.
You guys are no longer banned for profanity, can spam threads a lot more, you do your stupid "for fun" copy cast threads, you can troll and argue amongst yourselves, etc.


I don't care if it was right or wrong because at the end of the day, if I had to do the VN Boards over again knowing what I know now, I would have never have taken the job and would have started my own system and retired by now happy



ah, it was a good ride. happy

I think my oldest mod note says something like: this one bears watching - Legion of Light. I always loved that one. happy

 

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[quote=-Mithan-]I have told Moderators we are shifting strategy overall because it causes traffic but that is a different question you would need to ask and it isn't specific to Arch, it is specific to ACF's overall moderator strategy of the last 4 or 5 years. He just fell within it, as several others did that would have been permabanned back in the day and I do not regret the decision.
What is ACF's Moderator Strategy (Really? There's a Strategy?)... and why did it change?



Here is some of the deal, in brief and leaving out a lot of detail:
(I modded TD from June 2001 to 2003, then I became Admin in summer of 2003, I had AC2HQ for a few years there as well)


Back in the early days, the VN Boards were all run as separate communities. Moderators had very loose rules on what to do on their boards but ran things as they saw fit. This was not consistent across boards obviously and caused issues, but things could be "tuned" to the Community itself. There were pro's and con's to this approach.

In 2002, people in charge decided to start responding to calls of inconsistency, by trying to make all the rules AND how Moderators did things the same across all boards. This was good and bad. Making Moderators consistant is a good thing, forcing all the boards on a forum as varied as Vault Network, was stupid. That being said, the people in charge at that time had nothing to go on so it isn't like they knew any better.

This is also just after IGN purchased us and started changing rules. I still remember the day Tal from IGN dropped into the Global Mod Forum and told us "no profanity is allowed anymore". I remember it because it was a stupid decision done in response to Chylama and others sending in complaints about "profanity" directly to IGN and it should have been done via Profanity Filter. There were other decisions dropped like that, some good and some bad. Again, Tal didn't know the repurcusions of his actions at the time or how many thousands of people would be banned as a result.

When I took over in 2003, the push to "normalize" all the Forums was in place and my directives were pretty clear, so I continued with it and didn't mind it. What I did not like though was the "Sunday Schoolification" of the VN Boards that was happening as a direct response to a minority of people complaining and a specific Manager who prefered this style of Board. I was an "old school" Mod who swore like a sailor until that was removed, so I didn't care for the baby everybody approach but I did it and followed my orders.

Were the people complaining about the boards and this Manager wrong? In my view, yes. The community is full of teenagers and young adults so expecting them to act like they are in a Sunday School (no swearing, be nice to each other, etc, etc) was wrong. Changing the boards to cater to these "complainers" who expected a Sunday School atmosphere was a f***ing travesty.

Anyways, I was initially instructed to continue with the "Sunday Schoolification of the VN Boards", though not in those words but coming in after a Mod Riot and a time when a lot of "Sunday School" mods were hired and directly butted heads with us older school mods, I strove for peace initially, which meant Status Quo, which meant board purges and strict rules and other things. For a while.


The above "strictness" is why you guys got the book slammed at you so often. ACF was considered a s*** hole at the time by most of us, people frequently complained about how ACF was out of control, etc, etc. This happened to other boards too and we stupidly, fell in line and tried to purge it. I used to post on ACF back in the early 200's but stayed off after I was the Admin. We had a lot of pressure and directives to "do something about it" but I had the power to say no, and didn't. That was a failing on my part but I didnt know better at the time.


We did a number of "losening" changes to the rules from 2004 to 2007 and slowly over time the Sunday Schoolers mostly quit but the culture was still there. We also made a LOT of changes to how we moderated, some good and some bad.





In 2007 though, some things became obvious to me:
The boards were in decline, VN was no longer relevant as a network and had a limited lifespan of 2-4 years before it was done (I was off by a year it seems), we were strangling the posters we had left with overly tight rules, no new people were coming because the sites were not good, etc, etc.

Basically, we are too corporate. We can not compete with a start up site like MMO Champion or WoWHead or whatever new site will develop that has all the latest awesome developments in Web Tech going for it for upcoming games like Guild Wars 2 and other games. Why come to our boards when you can go to a Developer Board and have your opinion read?



We tried opening new boards, they failed.


In 2008, I decided to shift focus and focus on what was left to us to focus, which was the "strangling of the posters via the rules". I reasoned that most of you were only here because of habit and "friends" and didn't care about games anymore and just wanted to shoot the s*** about whatever. Tight Rules don't allow that.


I "discussed" changing rules with our entire team and I got too much push back and argument from various corners because what I wanted to do was directly in conflict with the Mod Culutre we had built over the last 8 years. The mod culture of "Sunday School" was strong even though we had an amazing team of Managers and Mods at this point but I think people were just scared.

What did I WANT to do?
I wanted to tear everything down and start over but that wasn't going to happen.


So what DID I do?
I told Teddy I was going to launch a campaign to loosen up the board rules. He was on board. I made some changes to the board rules and instructed the Moderators to "loosen up" all over the boards. This is probably where you got the idea that I was saying ARCH could specifically troll all he wanted. He couldn't, at least no more or less than the rest of you guys trolling.

Then I did what no sane administrator should do and in the summer of 2008, I jumped into the boards and started tearing out the walls we had created. It was my own Shock and Awe.

I think MForce and Foxy freaked out and probably hated me for a bit, but they eventually got over it. At least I hope, because I did a bad thing to them and am sorry for that.
The rest of the Moderators probably figured I was crazy.

Either way, the walls came down on ALL the boards and Moderators had no choice but to loosen up because that is what their crazy administrator who was mysteriously not being fired, had just done to them, whether they liked it or not.



What was the purpose of this? As I said, the writting was on the wall. The VN Sites could not compete with the other sites out there and the VN Boards had no relevance in an age of Developer Boards. I figured I might as well give you guys your freedom back and wait until we closed the doors and merged with IGN, which I actually expected to happen in 2010 or 2011. I reasoned it would stem the bleeding, and it did.


Since 2008, you have pretty much had the same freedoms you had in 2001.
You guys are no longer banned for profanity, can spam threads a lot more, you do your stupid "for fun" copy cast threads, you can troll and argue amongst yourselves, etc.


I don't care if it was right or wrong because at the end of the day, if I had to do the VN Boards over again knowing what I know now, I would have never have taken the job and would have started my own system and retired by now happy



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I think my oldest mod note says something like: this one bears watching - Legion of Light. I always loved that one. happy [/quote]

Fantastic Post, Mithan. Thanks for loosening things up behind the scenes. I very much remember when the crackdown occurred, and things have been mysteriously lax the last few years, much to our enjoyment on the DT boards.

I'm glad you recognized this "corporate culture" is nothing but bullshit. Hopefully you can transfer that wisdom to the new boards and instill it in future mods.

 

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Can I get in on this mod note pages thing/

Also, can you officially confirm that I had my mod powers taken away because I implied on ACF2 that I would let someone know something from his mod notes?

 

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Ok, i guess i do have a question. why were we (the mods) not allowed to tell anybody (ie the posters) when you decided to loosen the rules? It seemed to me at the time it would have been easier and more up front to just tell everybody what the new rules were.

 

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I'm not the one who is bitching and ranting.




You had been posting here for hours and I never addressed you. Not once. You came after me first, you LIED about something I never did, and then you bumped this almost 12 hours later so you do care to keep it going.

 

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Mithan, do you get paid to do this job, and if so, is it enough to live off of?

 

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Do i even have any mod notes? I have never been banned except for a stupid 15 min bad at 5k.

 

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Arch_Magi posted:
How many gigs (or teras) bytes of data will be freed up when vnboards is shut down and the drives eventually reformatted/erased/destroyed?



No idea.


It may be left in archive and read only format, deleted or copied to the IGN boards.

Aerlinthian posted:
Has anyone asked something along these lines yet?

Mithan, has your involvement with these boards generally been a plus, a break even or a minus for you? And you can use any facet you like as your criteria for answering that.


The boards, my AQ2HQ site and eventually the admin job ate up a big portion of my free time in 2001-2005. That is a big regret because I could of been doing other things at the time and the main reason I am not sure I would ever do this again if I could go back to 2001 and "do it over again" on this scale.

However on the flip side, it did lead to a couple gigs with Epic Games and VE3D that payed very well for a spare hobby.

I also learned a lot about a lot of things in general and met some great people.

So while I regret the time invested, I think I got enough out of it in the end to make it worthwhile. Then again, maybe not. I dont want to dwell on it too much. Hindsite is 2020.


 

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kigaro posted:
You've seen them.


I think the question was implied. If not...

Oh please Mithan daddy?

I wouldn't have a problem showing off my old tits but I guess the rules are still intact for now. I don't wanna miss acfs last days.


I would love to see your tits (unless your ugly, no offense).

 

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Great thread, it's wonderful to see some answers after so many years of silence.

 

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who exactly logged into Yuki's account after he "died"?


I don't remember or know. If you PM his account link, I will see if we have it on the notes. Not saying I will post it, but I might. That my decision to make.



Not sure on his account linke, looks like its not set up for IGN, Here's his board history link tho
http://vnboards.ign.com/UserPages/PostHistory.aspx?usr=56686



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I also have his final IP, which doesn't correspond to anybody else active since then.


In short, it isn't in the notes and his IP didn't correspond to somebody else. For all we know, somebody clicked on a bookmark in his PC wondering what Vault Network was, came here and his cache logged him in.

 

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Don't be mean. I'm definitely on the upper spectrum of average.

 

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Gandalf_of_the_Shire posted:
Mithan:

What if the notes didn't have names attached? I'm curious to see my notes out of a guilty pleasure of seeing what I've done over the years. Why are you against it?


Here is the reason I don't allow Admin Notes to go out:
It gives you guys something to discuss, which then puts focus where it never should be (moderation) and causes old hatreds to pop up, arguments, pissing matches, etc, etc.

Basically, it disturbs the flow of the boards and results in a bunch of crap, which then escalates into bannings and more hard feelings and this all has to be cleaned up by some poor Moderator who is being ridiculed for it, because everything is now being over analyzed.


That is it. That is the only reason we don't give mod notes out. I don't want Mods put in the position of dealing with this crap. Done.


Managers have always been able to do it if they want and they have. The rule doesn't apply to them.



This is the same reason we don't allow Moderator Discussion on the boards. It stirs shi* up and some of you guys LOVE to stir crap up because you get off on it. Unfortunately, the guys and gals who deal with it are real people.





Is there anything in there damning? No, aside from the odd mod remark, they are pretty much straight cut and pastes of what YOU said when you were warned or banned. If people didn't act like two year olds about it, we never would of made this rule, but that was never the case.




As for giving out the notes, I can do that if I want but its a lot of work though and because of that, I wouldn't be doing it myself (sorry). Beib, Acery or Grim may not mind doing it.

THe other part still applies though, which is the part about it stirring crap up on the boards so it would really depend WHO it was. I don't need you guys copying it to ACF4, bitching about it then bringing the discussion here.



 

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Fair enough, thanks for the straight answers.

Grim if you want to humor me, I'll draw you some anime ;d

 

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ferdinand.the.great posted:
Can I get in on this mod note pages thing/

Also, can you officially confirm that I had my mod powers taken away because I implied on ACF2 that I would let someone know something from his mod notes?


9 pages.

Were you a mod Ferdinand? I don't remember that....
If you were, yes I would of easily fired you for implying you were leaking out Admin Notes. I am against that for the reason I said above in the other threads, plus if you leak Admin Notes, then you would also have no issues leaking private info from our internal boards. IF that is why I fired you, then I still agree with the initial decision.


-Dyslexia- posted:
Ok, i guess i do have a question. why were we (the mods) not allowed to tell anybody (ie the posters) when you decided to loosen the rules? It seemed to me at the time it would have been easier and more up front to just tell everybody what the new rules were.


The same reason I told you back then on those threads:

A perfect example is the Profanity Rule change.

When we dropped the Profanity Banning, I told you guys to shut up about it. This was done because if I had said "we are no longer banning you for profanity, but don't swear please", the posters would quickly just fill the boards up with profanity because the flood gates would be open, which would mean we would have to go back to banning for profanity to get them stop and that would cause a lot of problems.

By telling you to shut up about it and leaving it in the rules, the posters perceived it was against the rules and they tried to clean up their language on their own so they wouldn't get banned. When people screwed up, we edited the word and moved on. The poster would see the edit and count themselves "lucky" and try not to use it in the future.

Over time, people clued into the fact that profanity was not getting them banned, but they didn't abuse that notion. They got away with the odd profanity and we got realtivly "safe for work" boards out of the deal.


It was just manipulation on my part, but it worked and was best for everybody. You always knew I hated the profanity rule. It was the single dumbest thing IGN ever did to us and Teddy allowed me to partly dump it, provided it didn't get abused by the posters. This was the only way to accomplish that and I have no regrets.



The other easings were mostly done the same way but only if I felt it was something to be abused. We announced the Spam Thread changes directly because you were told to only allow them on dedicated Spam Threads for example, so who cares. Other things like "ease up on personal attacks" was sort of hard to imply. I wanted people to be able to scrap a bit like you guys allowed back in the day, I just didn't want them going full Jerk against one another. We could of done better with this one though.


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[quote=AkagiyamaMissile]Do I even HAVE mod notes?


Three pages


How many pages do I have?


Look yourself and find out.

I'll probably ban myself somehow laugh

 

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Mithan, do you get paid to do this job, and if so, is it enough to live off of?


Not since 2008. I posted what I got payed earlier in this thread.

$50 for a while, then $150 for about a year or so then nothing.

I have a real job. This is only my spare time stuff. I work shift work (12 hour days) so I get a LOT of time off each week or I wouldn't be here.

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Do i even have any mod notes? I have never been banned except for a stupid 15 min bad at 5k.


Half a page. You used profanity and called somebody an idiot, plus some other stuff.



 

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When we dropped the Profanity Banning, I told you guys to shut up about it. This was done because if I had said "we are no longer banning you for profanity, but don't swear please", the posters would quickly just fill the boards up with profanity because the flood gates would be open, which would mean we would have to go back to banning for profanity to get them stop and that would cause a lot of problems.

By telling you to shut up about it and leaving it in the rules, the posters perceived it was against the rules and they tried to clean up their language on their own so they wouldn't get banned. When people screwed up, we edited the word and moved on. The poster would see the edit and count themselves "lucky" and try not to use it in the future.


I disagree with this entirely. 100% philosophically against this.

My proof? Check the Darktide boards.

We've known that cussing isn't bannable for years now. In fact, they had been more lenient with us because of the sheer pushback we'd given over the years. Do you see us cussing all the time? Go count the threads with cuss words in their titles. One. Two maybe? In ten pages? Now count the actual cuss words among the threads. Not many.

Why? Because people don't just cuss to get a reaction. We did that when we were eight years old, and only because we were told we weren't allowed to cuss. Would you get a shitstorm out of the gates? Yes, of course. You'd have people cussing just to cuss, just to flip the bird to you and the people who didn't allow them to cuss ever.

For a while.

Then it would go away, and turn into what our Darktide boards are today. We're the rowdiest bunch on VN, and we're very tame. Most of us are grown adults now.

You're wrong about keep that under wraps.

 

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How many pages is my mod notes? Is it juicy? I hope it's really nice and juicy.

Cna PM me if you'd like raised_brow

Also, basically are what they gonna do is just make an ACF and Outpost board on the IGN boards, and that's it? Like we're just changing board systems?

 

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I have no idea what kind of mod notes you'd have about me. Page count?

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ferdinand.the.great posted:
Can I get in on this mod note pages thing/

Also, can you officially confirm that I had my mod powers taken away because I implied on ACF2 that I would let someone know something from his mod notes?


9 pages.

Were you a mod Ferdinand? I don't remember that....
If you were, yes I would of easily fired you for implying you were leaking out Admin Notes. I am against that for the reason I said above in the other threads, plus if you leak Admin Notes, then you would also have no issues leaking private info from our internal boards. IF that is why I fired you, then I still agree with the initial decision.
Hahah. No. I wasn't a mod. I was a site manager, which meant I got mod powers, but not the rights to use them. tongue

 

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I disagree with this entirely. 100% philosophically against this.

My proof? Check the Darktide boards.

We've known that cussing isn't bannable for years now. In fact, they had been more lenient with us because of the sheer pushback we'd given over the years. Do you see us cussing all the time? Go count the threads with cuss words in their titles. One. Two maybe? In ten pages? Now count the actual cuss words among the threads. Not many.

Why? Because people don't just cuss to get a reaction. We did that when we were eight years old, and only because we were told we weren't allowed to cuss. Would you get a shitstorm out of the gates? Yes, of course. You'd have people cussing just to cuss, just to flip the bird to you and the people who didn't allow them to cuss ever.

For a while.

Then it would go away, and turn into what our Darktide boards are today. We're the rowdiest bunch on VN, and we're very tame. Most of us are grown adults now.

You're wrong about keep that under wraps.


Nope, disagree 100% and the history here of the action and reaction proved that right. If I could go back to 2008, I would do it all exactly the same UNLESS IGN dropped the Profanity Rule entirely, which is what I wanted. Re-read what I said above about having to balance this out in order to be able to do what I did.

Dark Tide was a total different scenario. We've "ignored" DT forever except for some clean up campaigns which I have said were stupid. When AA was on that board, all I told him to do was delete profanity and porn and that is all he did. The other guy who worked there last year (Asheron?) had the same directive actually. I could dig up the PM but it would take too long. IGN had written off the Darktide Boards actually, but they didn't want the rest of VN filled with profanity.

You say you guys "swear a bit", which is the problem. DT is a hidden away community with about 5% of the remaining posters on it. "Swearing a bit" on Darktide does not scale well to "swearing a bit" on the rest of the boards. It becomes "swearing a lot".

Being transparent about it on ACF, Outpost and the rest of the boards in general would have resulted in a lot of profanity use and then IGN would have told me "nope" and then the rule would have come back down.


IF I had been transparent about it, and I was wrong, it could of been a big disaster. The way I did it, nobody got hurt, but yes, it DID leave people wondering WTF but that was something I was willing to accept.

Lets put it this way, I don't regret my decision. It worked perfectly fine and the end result of allowing you guys to swear without being banned AND keeping the boards clean was met.

If I had to do it again with TODAY'S board situation, I would tell you all straight out because you are all used to it and I think would respect it. Back in 2008? No way.







 

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I have no idea what kind of mod notes you'd have about me. Page count?

Rho


4, which is a surprise. I generally had respect for the fact you rarely ever were a dick to people.



ferdinand.the.great posted:
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Can I get in on this mod note pages thing/

Also, can you officially confirm that I had my mod powers taken away because I implied on ACF2 that I would let someone know something from his mod notes?


9 pages.

Were you a mod Ferdinand? I don't remember that....
If you were, yes I would of easily fired you for implying you were leaking out Admin Notes. I am against that for the reason I said above in the other threads, plus if you leak Admin Notes, then you would also have no issues leaking private info from our internal boards. IF that is why I fired you, then I still agree with the initial decision.
Hahah. No. I wasn't a mod. I was a site manager, which meant I got mod powers, but not the rights to use them. tongue




Oh, now I remember. Ya I removed that because I didn't trust you. If you recall, we only gave you the status on condition you wouldn't abuse it.

Paraduck had the same treatment though he grew up eventually and was trustworthy for the most part.

 

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How many pages is my mod notes? Is it juicy? I hope it's really nice and juicy.

Cna PM me if you'd like raised_brow

Also, basically are what they gonna do is just make an ACF and Outpost board on the IGN boards, and that's it? Like we're just changing board systems?


*cough8!

 

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First, thanks Mithan and the rest of cool mods who did their job. I used to troll the sh** out of the DAOC boards back in 2001-2004 when I played. I have two simple questions:

1) How many mod notes do I have? (the million dollar question everyone is asking, I know tongue )

2) Why did Dunes step down? If it's too personal I understand.

 

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I occasionally enjoyed going down memory lane and reading some of my Old PMs. Brought back memories of a time in my life where my biggest worry was paying my villa rent on time. I'm guessing there would be no easy way to save PMs?

 

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I have no idea what kind of mod notes you'd have about me. Page count?

Rho


4, which is a surprise. I generally had respect for the fact you rarely ever were a dick to people.


I seem to remember going a few rounds with a mod (or mods) for something (inconsistency of rules, etc.) before realizing what a waste of time/energy it was. Typing time was much better spent here being goofy, trolling and only arguing with folks worthy of the exchange.

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I think my mod notes are mostly in regards to my ex who used to get banned and I did too since we shared an IP. Plus there was some drama there. plain

 

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[quote=AkagiyamaMissile]Do I even HAVE mod notes?


Three pages








well you know I star banned you...

EVERY time we touch anything...noted.[/quote]

But, 3 pages?? I always thought of myself as 'Oh, that guy.' Nothing much in terms of a second glance. I got Banned once for drunk posting censored naughtiness, a few accidental bad words were edited. lol didn't realize I did enough for 1/2 a page worth of notes let alone 3. tongue

 

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I have 6 pages if that makes you feel better...

 

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First, thanks Mithan and the rest of cool mods who did their job. I used to troll the sh** out of the DAOC boards back in 2001-2004 when I played. I have two simple questions:

1) How many mod notes do I have? (the million dollar question everyone is asking, I know tongue )

2) Why did Dunes step down? If it's too personal I understand.


2

Ask Dunes.





quote=-Drack-]I occasionally enjoyed going down memory lane and reading some of my Old PMs. Brought back memories of a time in my life where my biggest worry was paying my villa rent on time. I'm guessing there would be no easy way to save PMs?[/quote]

For all I know, they could be copied over.
I doubt it.

There is no tool to save PM's. Legionedel had one years ago but it broke years ago.

 

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Reading through my notes, one of my earliest ones was [insert moderator name here] on 5/21/2004 1:57:42 PM wrote: AC:SC - Edited out "bumbumsecks"


Seriously. bumbumsecks.

 

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Reading through my notes, one of my earliest ones was [insert moderator name here] on 5/21/2004 1:57:42 PM wrote: AC:SC - Edited out "bumbumsecks"


Seriously. bumbumsecks.

There was a time for about 2 years when anything sexual was not allowed.

 

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BUMBUMSECKZ.


This is seriously my favorite image right now:

 

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That's okay, I just noticed that my ban for posting the 'Free The_Hunt' picture was 72 hours. Lmao.

 

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2) Why did Dunes step down? If it's too personal I understand.


Stepped down before Christmas and then came back in feb. I was out of province December with family commitments, in January I had a trip to Mexico, listed my home for sale, and helped my brother move out. Beginning of feb was a business trip and when I came back I was ready to go again.

Needed a bit of a break. I probably could have just stayed on and no one would have cared I was inactive,but that's not my style. In or out.

I also was bored of modding dead boards and was eyeballing acf, but I wasn't sure foxy wanted help and I didn't want to take mforce's spot while he was deciding if he was coming back.

End of the day it helped clear my head, I realized I wanted to keep modding, acf still had an opening, foxy/mforce we're on board, managers gave me the nod, and here i am.

 

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lol Kig got banned. laugh

 

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maybe it wasn't clear...but yes if you post something like that bans will still happen, merger with ign or not tongue

 

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Mithan did say that he'd look at her tits.

 

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should have pm'd him the pics tongue

did not leave her banned since i know it looked like it would have been okay to post it from what he said. rules are still in effect though...posts from this board are going to be moved over to the new board from what i know so its not like everything here is just going to vanish next week.

 

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How many pages of notes on me?

 

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Damn, missed it.

 

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Damn, missed it.

 

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MISSED THEM? Theres the other ACF y'know...just saying.

 

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How many pages of mod notes do I have?

confused

 

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kigaro needs an updated how many pages of mod notes now

 

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I was confused. How many pages of mod notes do I have?

 

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I was confused. How many pages of mod notes do I have?


however many it is/was... it is now +1

 

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How many pages, or probably just mod notes considering I am such a innocent flower child, do I have?

 

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How many pages of mod notes for me?

Also, who did you consider the most annoying Outposter?

 

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Consider this your warning.



warning for what? you got a racist mind or something. I was merely supporting affirmative action. Minorities should have your job. They cant do it worse.

 

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How many pages of mod notes for me?

Also, who did you consider the most annoying Outposter?

3

Bonk




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Wait, we are doing mod notes now?

Do me, do me!

 

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How many pages of notes on me?


 

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I cannot confirm nor deny saving those tit pics.

 

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How many pages of notes on me?


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Kanga_Roo posted:
How many pages of notes on me?


2


you have pages of mod notes per poster?


how many for me?

 

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[quote=Unarmed-Yarr]who exactly logged into Yuki's account after he "died"?


I don't remember or know. If you PM his account link, I will see if we have it on the notes. Not saying I will post it, but I might. That my decision to make.



Not sure on his account linke, looks like its not set up for IGN, Here's his board history link tho
http://vnboards.ign.com/UserPages/PostHistory.aspx?usr=56686



Date Account Added: 11/29/2000 10:58:15 AM
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I also have his final IP, which doesn't correspond to anybody else active since then.


In short, it isn't in the notes and his IP didn't correspond to somebody else. For all we know, somebody clicked on a bookmark in his PC wondering what Vault Network was, came here and his cache logged him in.

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-Prismatic- posted:
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How many pages of notes on me?


2


you have pages of mod notes per poster?


how many for me?


3

 

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Do I even have any mod notes?

 

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how many for me? i am going to guess 5

 

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First before I piss you off... hugs

...do I have any mod notes PRIOR to 2008 (my re-appearance on the Outpost)... like... is there any trace left that I was once mod'd by priortuck as a TL back in the '02s or so?



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First before I piss you off... hugs

...do I have any mod notes PRIOR to 2008 (my re-appearance on the Outpost)... like... is there any trace left that I was once mod'd by priortuck as a TL back in the '02s or so?



Second... WHY DID YOU BETRAY US! YOU ARE NOT OF US!!







Well it seemed like a good idea before....

I have had emails flying telling them to delay it.

I didnt threaten to make my own forums yet, since I dont know if people would use them.

 

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Mangler_SC posted:

How many pages of notes on me?



 

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So are the new forums going to look like the IGN forums, just as they are now?

 

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So are the new forums going to look like the IGN forums, just as they are now?


retard

boards.ign.com

go there, stfu, retard

 

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How many pages of admin notes do I have?

 

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the_great_intex posted:
So are the new forums going to look like the IGN forums, just as they are now?


retard

boards.ign.com

go there, stfu, retard


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Ok, why does it say I'm banned at boards.ign.com, but I can log in and post at http://www.ign.com/boards ?

 

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What was the deal with bre_rawr? Who made that man a gunner?

 

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I guess I will join the crowd, how many pages for me?

thinking 3

 

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I guess I will join the crowd, how many pages for me?

thinking 3


Good guess!

 

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I'm guessing about 2 pages of mod notes for me but they probably really focus on my early posting fun.

 

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Do I even have any mod notes?




Yep, single page.

 

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how many for me? i am going to guess 5


Only 2.

 

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How many pages of notes on me?






9

 

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How many pages of admin notes do I have?


8

 

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Motar98 posted:
how many for me? i am going to guess 5


Only 2.


i am outraged

 

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First question do mod notes go over from board to board?

If so how many do I have?

I am sure murron has written me up a few times from MT

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If we can't have our mod notes, can we at least have our unban requests? I'd like them. For posterity.

 

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9? lol



 

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Now I really want to see them.

 

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Can we get a sample of mod notes? Perhaps a page of someones.

 

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So how did you pick mods for ACF?

 

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How many pages did I have?

 

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I bet I have at least 20 pages of admin notes. Looking to tie Combat Mage for the record!


12

 

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How many pages did I have?


24


plain

 

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First question do mod notes go over from board to board?
If you mean within VN, yes. Your profile is global. If you mean from VN to IGN then no. An IGN mod cannot see your VN notes and same goes for the other way.

Dadoleon posted:
If so how many do I have?
I cant see your IGN admin profile.

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I am sure murron has written me up a few times from MT
I'll leave that up to her grin

 

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Gandalf_of_the_Shire posted:
How many pages did I have?


24


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Welcome to Darktide bitches.

 

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So how did you pick mods for ACF?
Towards the end we were going to make the board a Manager Board only + foxy but Dune's return gave us the opportunity to plug in someone we knew was level headed, laid back and posted here often so we went with that.

Mith can elaborate more but we always tried to pull from the community.

 

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yeah, why was the application form for moderator so obtuse?
I was modded in 2005 so I'm not going to talk about things prior that I can only assume.

BUT

When I was first moderated, there had to be 100 mods. Back then, there was a definite feel of hierarchy between Administration, Managers and mods. It seemed to be ran like a true business with corporate structure because of the sheer number of mods. The app, in my opinion, caused a polarization type effect. Those who were not serious would either stop because of the length of the app or would be flushed because their answers were so transparent.

To me, it gave leadership a means to filter people out because one can stay in touch with a small community and make decisions to mod someone based on a personal bias whereas the boards grew so much, that was no longer possible and there had to be a 'test' for those considering the position.

 

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Can we get a sample of mod notes? Perhaps a page of someones.


(Community -> acf) - (insert violation type here)
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Can we get a sample of mod notes? Perhaps a page of someones.



That's it really. Nothing else. If mods got cute with entries, they were told to remake the note without the color commentary and myself or another manager would nuke it.

 

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i think the thing that got under my collar the most about the moderation back way back then was the mods who who would just be browsing ACF and were not all that 'hip' to the ACF culture and perform a drive-by edit/lock/ban with nary a warning or FYI, the only way you found out WTF happened was via MSN or YIM if you had a mod friend who could look it up and tell ya -OR- via the UBR when said stealth mod would get around to unbanning ya

 

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aon_mixed posted:
i think the thing that got under my collar the most about the moderation back way back then was the mods who who would just be browsing ACF and were not all that 'hip' to the ACF culture and perform a drive-by edit/lock/ban with nary a warning or FYI, the only way you found out WTF happened was via MSN or YIM if you had a mod friend who could look it up and tell ya -OR- via the UBR when said stealth mod would get around to unbanning ya


Some were justified, some were not. I don't want to offend other moderators but lets just leave it at that ACF had a hands off policy for the most part but we expected major violations to be and could be handled by any moderator.

 

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more to the point, im grousing about the lack of tranparency with respect to trangressions: stealth bans were an all or nothing affair without feedback (for the most part) until the UBR was fully processed.

 

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How many pages did GinsuWife have? How many did Hillbilly_Cletus have?

 

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How many pages did GinsuWife have? How many did Hillbilly_Cletus have?


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Was 4 a good guess or are you bastiches ignoring me? tongue

 

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I bet I have at least 20 pages of admin notes. Looking to tie Combat Mage for the record!


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I bet I have at least 20 pages of admin notes. Looking to tie Combat Mage for the record!


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Such BS! I was once told that my admin notes were "longer than the Nile river"!!


You just don't have the post count for it

 

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more to the point, im grousing about the lack of tranparency with respect to trangressions: stealth bans were an all or nothing affair without feedback (for the most part) until the UBR was fully processed.


generally speaking, stealth bans were for the most part reserved for autoban offenses that were done by mods who post on acf or were brought to a reply by a pm because a local was not on. getting back to my prior comment with hands off, non local mods were told to leave no trace to cut down on pissing off the community in the case of an emergency action.

After a ban, the ubr queue was our only line of communication with the user while they were banned.

the banning mod would have to then let the local mods know what was up so everyone was in the loop. it was up to the user to get back to a local if they had a question. that seems stand-off-ish but it is how we did things. I had no problem going over something with a user who had an issue or question.

 

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how many mod notes do i have?

 

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What's going to happen to the archived stuff, like the Focus On threads? Will they just be lost forever?

 

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Dadoleon posted:
First question do mod notes go over from board to board?
If you mean within VN, yes. Your profile is global. If you mean from VN to IGN then no. An IGN mod cannot see your VN notes and same goes for the other way.

Dadoleon posted:
If so how many do I have?
I cant see your IGN admin profile.

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I am sure murron has written me up a few times from MT
I'll leave that up to her grin




LOL...


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What's going to happen to the archived stuff, like the Focus On threads? Will they just be lost forever?


Prismatic has copied them.

 

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Mithan, can I be a mod again for 2 days? grin

 

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Mithan, can I be a mod again for 2 days? grin

Seriously....you should remod us all just for S&Gs.

 

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Lynea posted:
What's going to happen to the archived stuff, like the Focus On threads? Will they just be lost forever?


Prismatic has copied them.



GO PRISMATIC!!! hugs


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psh, I was a mod...and I left on good terms...

Yeah, well...screw you! I was fired. tongue

 

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psh, I was a mod...and I left on good terms...

Yeah, well...screw you! I was fired. tongue
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how many mod notes do i have?
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OK so, Murron, that one time you helped me out with my post that had the trapped hotlink .gif...

It was the 'Oprah-bees'.gif, but when I posted it here it turned into a 'big-black-booty-pron'.gif doh!

As I PM-ed mods left and right you were the one that edited it out for me. (TY again by the way) hugs

When you saw it, were you more along the lines of:



Or more

 

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psh, I was a mod...and I left on good terms...

Yeah, well...screw you! I was fired. tongue

Are you still with him btw?

 

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i'll ground ship you some pie hawk...but not cake


Sold!

 

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BRE_RAWR





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how many mod notes do i have?

Not enough.

 

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how many mod notes do i have?

Not enough.


HA!!

 

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hey bobby!

hi foxy!!! holy crap 110k posts...

 

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OK so, Murron, that one time you helped me out with my post that had the trapped hotlink .gif...

It was the 'Oprah-bees'.gif, but when I posted it here it turned into a 'big-black-booty-pron'.gif doh!

As I PM-ed mods left and right you were the one that edited it out for me. (TY again by the way) hugs

When you saw it, were you more along the lines of:



Or more






I was like Ohhhhh My Word! shock

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-Foxy- posted:
hey bobby!

hi foxy!!! holy crap 110k posts...


If this board was open two more weeks...Foxy would have hit 200k. True story rose


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-Foxy- posted:
hey bobby!

hi foxy!!! holy crap 110k posts...


If this board was open two more weeks...Foxy would have hit 200k. True story rose


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lol 110k posts

 

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hey bobby!

hi foxy!!! holy crap 110k posts...


If this board was open two more weeks...Foxy would have hit 200k. True story rose


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lol 110k posts


YOU CHEATED.

 

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hey bobby!

hi foxy!!! holy crap 110k posts...


If this board was open two more weeks...Foxy would have hit 200k. True story rose


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lol 110k posts




and Pris would have hit 300k! shock


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he still could....

 

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psh, I was a mod...and I left on good terms...

Yeah, well...screw you! I was fired. tongue

Are you still with him btw?

God, no....that didn't last long at all.

Been with the current guy for 6.5 years, married for 1.5.

 

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[quote=immortalbob]
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hey bobby!

hi foxy!!! holy crap 110k posts...


If this board was open two more weeks...Foxy would have hit 200k. True story rose


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lol 110k posts




and Pris would have hit 300k! shock


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I still have a couple days!

 

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psh, I was a mod...and I left on good terms...

Yeah, well...screw you! I was fired. tongue


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talk_hand

 

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[quote=murron2][quote=immortalbob]
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hey bobby!

hi foxy!!! holy crap 110k posts...


If this board was open two more weeks...Foxy would have hit 200k. True story rose


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lol 110k posts




and Pris would have hit 300k! shock


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I still have a couple days![/quote]

since he did over 60k in what? 1 day ? 2? ;p

 

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i think the thing that got under my collar the most about the moderation back way back then was the mods who who would just be browsing ACF and were not all that 'hip' to the ACF culture and perform a drive-by edit/lock/ban with nary a warning or FYI, the only way you found out WTF happened was via MSN or YIM if you had a mod friend who could look it up and tell ya -OR- via the UBR when said stealth mod would get around to unbanning ya



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i read this whole thread and learned a lot about you mithan
can you tell me how long my mod notes is?

 

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psh, I was a mod...and I left on good terms...

Yeah, well...screw you! I was fired. tongue


Me too!




That makes 3 of us!

 

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Last time I was given my mod notes, I recall my first 3 or 4 being positive things...

 

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What's more embarrassing for Rupert Murdoch...

the phone hack scandal or ACF.

 

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Were any of my mod apps considered?

 

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Mangler_SC posted:

PM me any and all Mod notes I have. If you don't, what the funk good are you?


I don't think you'll get him to do it. Not even if you text him every 4.5 minutes for 12 hours.

 

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How many mod notes do I have?

 

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I still want to know what that ban was that it took a week or so to unban me was for.


did it have to do with the bowl?

 

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HI ARCH!!!!!!

OMG Nann...your title is AWFUL...lmao

 

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kigaro posted:
Were any of my mod apps considered?

I wonder if mine were as well. They (at least) were copied to my mod notes so /someone/ had to have at least copy/pasted them.

 

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Nann posted:
Mangler_SC posted:

PM me any and all Mod notes I have. If you don't, what the funk good are you?


I don't think you'll get him to do it. Not even if you text him every 4.5 minutes for 12 hours.


NANN! hugs


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Oh, so will all our posts be archived somewhere or will they essentially vanish into the ether?

I ask because if anyone plans on a career in politics in the future, it's probably best for all our VN records to go away...

 

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So, Mithan, how many chicks from vnboards did you bang? Specifically, some of the Moderators/Staff members. The rumors on the hidden board placed the number at somewhere around 3 women who traded sex for "status". Any truth to the rumors?

 

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murron2 posted:
Acery posted:
Dadoleon posted:
First question do mod notes go over from board to board?
If you mean within VN, yes. Your profile is global. If you mean from VN to IGN then no. An IGN mod cannot see your VN notes and same goes for the other way.

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If so how many do I have?
I cant see your IGN admin profile.

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I am sure murron has written me up a few times from MT
I'll leave that up to her grin




LOL...


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Murron can I get a page number!!?? <3

edit: I still remember the best ban,

Murron: you've been banned for 3 days for blah blah blah(If I remember trolling)
Dado: Well deserved.

 

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who's dat

 

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So, Mithan, how many chicks from vnboards did you bang? Specifically, some of the Moderators/Staff members. The rumors on the hidden board placed the number at somewhere around 3 women who traded sex for "status". Any truth to the rumors?



LOL...


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TheUnholyGhost posted:
Can you confirm that one of my first mod notes was actually about how good an idea it would be to make me a mod? love
Last time I was given my mod notes, I recall my first 3 or 4 being positive things...

Unless they deleted them, that's what they were. I can't remember, though....was it Southern who was recommending you?

 

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Just posting in teh thread before it alll goes away.

i have a question, can we unban a permaban before we all go away? lol Gustav *cough* (non-acf)


Edit: I typed couch instead of cough? wtf

 

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They did. Arch is back.

 

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notmforce2k posted:
They did. Arch is back.


Self imposed bans don't count.

 

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So, Did VN/ACF get into any trouble when a married 26y/o traveled across the US to statutory rape a 14 y/o that he met and shared pictures with on ACF?

Oh and I bet my notes don't even break a page

 

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I don't expect an answer to that, but I'd love to know what the answer is.

 

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Lyli posted:
Edit: I typed couch instead of cough? wtf


batting

 

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