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Topic: If you were upset by Diebold voting machines, what do you think of SCYTL/SOE merger?

Sansfear Posts: 7,232 Registered: Aug 31, '08 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 7,182 User ID: 1,318,423	Subject: If you were upset by Diebold voting machines, what do you think of SCYTL/SOE merger?
	This happened a few months ago, but I just learned about it this week. The potential for abuse is on a much larger scale than Diebold and the company involved isn't even American. http://www.marketwatch.com/story/scytl-acquires-soe-software-becoming-the-leading-election-software-provider-2012-01-11 "SCYTL, the global leader in secure electronic voting technologies, announced today the acquisition of 100% of SOE Software, the leading software provider of election management solutions in the United States. The integration of these two software companies creates the industry leader in the election software market with a full range of solutions covering from Internet voting to election night reporting and online pollworker training, and a strong market presence worldwide. SCYTL is currently the worldwide leader in the Internet voting space and the acquisition of SOE Software, with its Clarity election management software suite, significantly expands SCYTL's product portfolio beyond electronic voting. Furthermore, SOE Software's strong US presence with 900 jurisdictions as customers in 26 states, including 14 state-wide customers, complements very effectively SCYTL's customer base in the United States and internationally with customers in over 20 different countries across 5 continents, including France, Spain, Canada, Norway, Switzerland, South Africa, United Arab Emirates, Mexico, India and Australia." When the two companies were separate, you had two distinct sources to compare vote totals which allowed for independent verification. Now, however, one company controls both sides meaning that you only have a single source. "It creates a vertical monopoly, in that you have one provider providing each step of the system, and a horizontal monopoly, with one provider delivering results across the majority of the geographic spectrum." "This redirects results reporting to a centralized privately held server which is not just for Ohio, but national; not just USA-based, but global. A mitigation against fraud by SOE insiders has been the separation of voting machine systems from the SOE results reports. Because most US jurisdictions require posting evidence of results from each voting machine at the precinct, public citizens can organize to examine these results to compare with SOE results. Black Box Voting spearheaded a national citizen action to videotape / photograph these poll tapes in 2008. With the merger of SOE and SCYTL, that won't work (if SCYTL's voting system is used). When there are two truly independent sources of information, the public can perform its own "audit" by matching one number against the other. These two independent sources, however, will now be merged into one single source: an Internet voting system controlled by SCYTL, with a results reporting system also controlled by SCYTL. With SCYTL internet voting, there will be no ballots. No physical evidence. No chain of custody. No way for the public to authenticate who actually cast the votes, chain of custody, or the count. SCYTL is moving into or already running elections in: the United Kingdom, France, Canada, Norway, Switzerland, United Arab Emirates, South Africa, India and Australia. SCYTL is based in Barcelona; its funding comes from international venture capital funds including Nauta Capital, Balderton Capital and Spinnaker." http://www.bbvforums.org/cgi-bin/forums/board-auth.cgi?file=/8/81816.html -----signature----- (none)
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Groucho48 Posts: 11,206 Registered: Oct 22, '03 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 11,136 User ID: 847,611	Subject: If you were upset by Diebold voting machines, what do you think of SCYTL/SOE merger?
	With no knowledge of the issue besides what is in your post, this sounds like a bad idea. Even if everything is honest and aboveboard, it gives the perception that shenanigans can happen. -----signature----- â€œScience is like sex: sometimes something useful comes out, but that is not the reason we are doing it.â€ â€“ Richard Feynman
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Yukishiro1 Posts: 38,362 Registered: Sep 20, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 31,453 User ID: 718,633	Subject: If you were upset by Diebold voting machines, what do you think of SCYTL/SOE merger?
	I would be very upset if Sony Online Entertainment was writing the code for my voting machines. Those people are teh debil and super incompetent. -----signature----- (none)
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Altra_Shadowstalker Posts: 17,553 Registered: Jan 17, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 16,076 User ID: 616,837	Subject: If you were upset by Diebold voting machines, what do you think of SCYTL/SOE merger?
	Another win for the free market! -----signature----- "Goddammit, Swearengen, I don't trust you as far as I could th'ow you, but I enjoy the way you lie." I don't typo often, but when I do, I blame Swype.
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Eager_Igraine Posts: 20,126 Registered: Nov 21, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 19,548 User ID: 740,268	Subject: If you were upset by Diebold voting machines, what do you think of SCYTL/SOE merger?
	Sounds bad, man. Voting info should be transparent and independently verifiable. -----signature----- I radiate more heat than light. I know what you're trying to do but you're just sailing another failboat over the falls. - imaloon1
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GrymmDAOC Posts: 8,605 Registered: Dec 6, '01 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 6,931 User ID: 534,161	Subject: If you were upset by Diebold voting machines, what do you think of SCYTL/SOE merger?
	wouldn't it be easier to just go back to marking an x on a paper ballot? -----signature----- Now speccing 2h sword IRL.
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