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an employee’s physique “should fit with a representational image or specific mental projection of the job of a healthcare professional,” including an appearance “free from distraction” for hospital patients. The majority of our patients are over 65, and they have expectations that cannot be ignored in terms of personal appearance,” hospital chief executive David Brown said in an interview. “We have the ability as an employer to characterize our process and to have a policy that says what’s best for our business and for our patients

http://lifeinc.today.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/04/05/11036667-texas-hospital-says-fat-people-need-not-apply


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Body mass index is calculated based on height and weight, with a measure over 30 qualifying as obese. A 5-foot-10 man who weighs 245 pounds would have a BMI of over 35, the hospital's cutoff. A 5-foot-2 woman would be over the cutoff at 195 pounds.




Pretty misleading headline. They definitely let you be fat, just not super mega fat.

And inb4 fat outposters whining about how 0.00001% of the population with a BMI over 35 are actually super healthy weight lifters and not fat.

 

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So in other words, they are discriminating against Outposters?

 

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arent obese people considered to be handicapped?

this sounds like a lawsuit waiting to happen

 

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Weight discrimination is one of the last types of bias that’s, for the most part, legal. Michigan is the only state that has any laws on the books protecting the fatties.

Also being overweight is not a disability in and of itself according to the Americans with Disabilities Act.

 

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They just effectively ruled out anyone with less than a 4 hour commute. laugh

 

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5'2" and 195 pounds? I'd think your silhouette would resemble a circle...

 

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My wife is 5'2" and about 110 and she is curvy (as in curvy, not fat). I cannot imagine what she would look like weighing about twice what she does now. That is the person they don't want to hire. I have a hard time blaming them. They're a hospital. It doesn't really inspire confidence when the place you go to get healthy is full of hugely unhealthy fat people.

 

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Elocism posted:
arent obese people considered to be handicapped?

this sounds like a lawsuit waiting to happen
That's what I was thinking. Some obese can get disability. You know someone will challenge it and probably win.

 

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fat people that get those parking placards piss me off.

 

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The only thing that should matter is whether or not a person can perform the functions of said job within the job description.

 

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Once we started letting companies piss test their employees, this was bound to happen. They already allow them to test for nicotine and fire you if they find it, now no fat people, soon they will be giving everyone cholesterol tests monthly and if yours is too high in the bad stuff....out you go. You are driving up our insurance rates you bacon eating ingrate. We need your facebook password to check and see if you are in a gang or have friends who look like they do drugs.

Soon, they will require you to allow company representatives into your home at any time to insure you aren't doing anything that could "negatively impact the companies reputation", next step....24/7 real time monitoring. Gotta make sure the corporation (Hail the corporation) is protected. Don't like it, don't work here.

And of course we will get the chorus of "Just work someplace else, the "market" will take care of these things and if people really object, they will go out of business". Yeah, that really works when unemployment is running at 15% and every damn job is with a subsidiary of 20 or 30 major corporations...who all have the policy. Starve under a bridge or let us control every aspect of your life. The near term future of this effed up hell hole of a country.

 

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Ptilk posted:
Once we started letting companies piss test their employees, this was bound to happen. They already allow them to test for nicotine and fire you if they find it, now no fat people, soon they will be giving everyone cholesterol tests monthly and if yours is too high in the bad stuff....out you go. You are driving up our insurance rates you bacon eating ingrate. We need your facebook password to check and see if you are in a gang or have friends who look like they do drugs.

Soon, they will require you to allow company representatives into your home at any time to insure you aren't doing anything that could "negatively impact the companies reputation", next step....24/7 real time monitoring. Gotta make sure the corporation (Hail the corporation) is protected. Don't like it, don't work here.

And of course we will get the chorus of "Just work someplace else, the "market" will take care of these things and if people really object, they will go out of business". Yeah, that really works when unemployment is running at 15% and every damn job is with a subsidiary of 20 or 30 major corporations...who all have the policy. Starve under a bridge or let us control every aspect of your life. The near term future of this effed up hell hole of a country.


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Ptilk posted:
You are driving up our insurance rates you bacon eating ingrate.



I agree with most everything you said but this part is always loltastic to me because these policies almost never lower insurance rates...they just protect the insurance companies from liability (ie, protect insurers' profits).

 

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Kjarhall posted:
The only thing that should matter is whether or not a person can perform the functions of said job within the job description.


And this...

 

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Tych2 posted:
Elocism posted:
arent obese people considered to be handicapped?

this sounds like a lawsuit waiting to happen
That's what I was thinking. Some obese can get disability. You know someone will challenge it and probably win.

In Appeals Court maybe, but the Supreme Court won't vote it down. Although Scalia might throw in a surprise dissent judgment on this one... thinking

 

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Ptilk posted:
It's the unsurprising result of the slippery slope some of you were pointing out over a decade ago.



You don't say?

Color me shocked.

 

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Kjarhall posted:
The only thing that should matter is whether or not a person can perform the functions of said job within the job description.


It looks like the hospital is making the case that fat people cannot perform the required duties as fat employees are now bad for hospital patients.

I guess this could be true...but I would not give the employer the benefit of the doubt on this one.

 

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theredkay1 posted:
Kjarhall posted:
The only thing that should matter is whether or not a person can perform the functions of said job within the job description.


It looks like the hospital is making the case that fat people cannot perform the required duties as fat employees are now bad for hospital patients.

I guess this could be true...but I would not give the employer the benefit of the doubt on this one.


I suspect you're right about the angle the hospital is going for, and also agree with you that I would not give the employer the benefit of the doubt here...

If we did give them the benefit of the doubt:

Should divorced attorneys be allowed to practice family law?

Should physicians' diets be monitored for absolute healthfulness? People might be shocked to find out how many physicians have REALLY crappy diets or bad habits like drinking too much or even smoking.




Bottom line: this is just another step down that slope and yet another precedent that will cease to be an exceptional case and soon become a standard...

 

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Ya, it is hard not to laugh when a fat doctor tells my wife to lose weight.

 

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I like it. Obesity/overweight/heart disease is this fat nation's number 1 killer now. A fat doctor or nurse is kind of a ironic thing to see in a hospital.

 

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BMI is kinda crap, it jsut lumps everyone into the smae garbage, I am 5'10" and 210 and I am not fat, but I have a 46" chest and 26" thighs, which pile on some weight....and according to BMI i am obese!!!!

 

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Fist_de_Yuma posted:
Ya, it is hard not to laugh when a fat doctor tells my wife to lose weight.


Laughing at your fat wife is pretty cruel.

 

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Rikarus posted:
BMI is kinda crap, it jsut lumps everyone into the smae garbage, I am 5'10" and 210 and I am not fat, but I have a 46" chest and 26" thighs, which pile on some weight....and according to BMI i am obese!!!!


Don't worry bro, you could still apply to be a fat nurse at that hospital. In fact, you could get 30 pounds fatter and still apply. hugs

 

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