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Kamdar 
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The Economist states that your public debt will be 100% in 2-3 years and is the next Greece!


Hope you are enjoying the 30 hr work weeks and 6 months paid vacations you are getting now!

 

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link?

 

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Because it took all of five seconds to find it without typing a single word (prior to this).

http://www.economist.com/node/21551478

 

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France now has the euro zone’s largest current-account deficit in nominal terms.


there is your problem

France is also hampered by a Central Bank that is willing to push everyone into recession in order to keep prices and wages from rising.

Combine those two and its trouble.

But its more fun to ignore the actual issues and cry about taxes I guess.

 

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There is enough money and work for everyone...its just capitalism
that plays Ponzi schemes around the globe

 

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theredkay1 posted:
[quote=link] France now has the euro zone’s largest current-account deficit in nominal terms.


there is your problem

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No, here is your problem: "Public spending, at 56% of GDP, "

 

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56%??? Not nearly enough comrade!!!

 

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France's state is too big. That is more a factor of low economic growth than anything else, though.

 

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Bjorvald posted:
theredkay1 posted:
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France now has the euro zone’s largest current-account deficit in nominal terms.


there is your problem




No, here is your problem: "Public spending, at 56% of GDP, "


The former is largely responsible for the latter.

Large trade deficits require new debt or a reduction in savings. You are upset about an accounting construct but unwilling to understand what the numbers mean.

A trade deficit requires negative savings. If you dont like negative savings, do something about the cause.

Greece and Spain are attempting to resolve the public spending/debt problem without addressing the cause. With disastrous results.

 

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ok... lets explore your freakonomics.

What level of taxation will reverse France's trade deficit?

The reason that your statement isn't false, just ignorant. With high enough levels of taxation nobody will be able to afford anything imported or domestically produced.

 

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Its nothing to celebrate. Still countries are going to have to change the way they do business.

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In 1950s one salary was enough for the middle class family

Now, average worker produces 10 times more, yet two salaries

can't cover expanses.

Please...

 

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Do you know which other country is well past 100% too?


...USA!

http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/federal_debt_chart.html

GUESS YOU GUYS OUGHT TO WORK MORE

 

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Testerion posted:
Do you know which other country is well past 100% too?

...USA!

http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/federal_debt_chart.html

GUESS YOU GUYS OUGHT TO WORK MORE


Ayyyyyup. Considering about half the US is unemployed or radically underemployed.

 

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bstulic posted:
In 1950s one salary was enough for the middle class family

Now, average worker produces 10 times more, yet two salaries

can't cover expanses.

Please...



Productivity has increased immensely. Now we have an organizational problem distributing the benefits of that productivity.

 

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