Dark_EternalFF posted:

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I don't care what flag they fly or what they do with their genitals as long as they do their fkin jobs.

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TheUnholyGhost posted:

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Absofrakinglutely not.

I don't particularly care who you sleep with, but keep it to your goddamn self.

No agenda should be pushed on military bases...

You're here. You're queer. We're fraking used to it....shut the hell up already.

You don't know how many of my gay friends wish these over the top f__s (their words, not mine) would just shut their mouths and live their lives.

You don't see S&M weirdos and sheep f__kers advertising their deviant sexual lifestyle...

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TheUnholyGhost posted:

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I don't particularly care who you sleep with, but keep it to your goddamn self.

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TheUnholyGhost posted:

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You're here. You're queer. We're fraking used to it....shut the hell up already.

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TheUnholyGhost posted:

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You don't see S&M weirdos and sheep f__kers advertising their deviant sexual lifestyle...

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TheUnholyGhost posted:

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Absofrakinglutely not.

I don't particularly care who you sleep with, but keep it to your goddamn self.

No agenda should be pushed on military bases...

You're here. You're queer. We're fraking used to it....shut the hell up already.

You don't know how many of my gay friends wish these over the top f__s (their words, not mine) would just shut their mouths and live their lives.

You don't see S&M weirdos and sheep f__kers advertising their deviant sexual lifestyle...

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Allmightybob_MLF posted:

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TheUnholyGhost posted:

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I don't particularly care who you sleep with, but keep it to your goddamn self.

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Men brag about their sexual conquests all the time. You might as well yell at the sky for being blue.

TheUnholyGhost posted:

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You're here. You're queer. We're fraking used to it....shut the hell up already.

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They shouldn't have to be quiet about it.

TheUnholyGhost posted:

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You don't see S&M weirdos and sheep f__kers advertising their deviant sexual lifestyle...

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What's wrong with S&M? Why do you feel bestiality is the same as a consensual act between two people.

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BritonGuy posted:

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I see wedding rings on straight people and men introducing their wives all the time, practically advertising to the world that they have sex with each other.

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Cuttlery posted:

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If everyone else can fly whatever flags they want sure.

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FineYoungCannibals posted:

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hopefully one day they will find a cure for this horrible disease

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TheUnholyGhost posted:

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Yes...one day this country will allow this mental condition and/or chemical imbalance to be researched and treated.

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TheUnholyGhost posted:

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You know what you don't see straight people do?
Fly flags celebrating their heterosexuality.

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TUG posted:

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Organizing straight pride parades. (Cause somehow that equates to "hate speech") /boggle

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TUG posted:

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Decorating our car bumpers with heretosexual slogans and and messages of tolerance of straight people...

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TUG posted:

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Fat people and smokers will just have to try harder with flags and parades to get on equal footing...

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TheUnholyGhost posted:

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Please explain how that's idiotic?

We treat every other abnormal behavior chemically, pharmaceutically, etc. Why not abnormal sexual behavior?
There are hundreds of fat pills, stop smoking treatments....why is there not a pill to suppress homosexual tendencies? Because it hasn't be funded for research.

I'm not saying you need to force feed no-gay pills to homosexuals, no one is forcing fat people to diet, or smokers to stop smoking. But they should be given a choice.

Argue with me. I'd love to see it...

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TheUnholyGhost posted:

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We treat every other abnormal behavior chemically, pharmaceutically, etc.

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TheUnholyGhost posted:

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Organizing straight pride parades. (Cause somehow that equates to "hate speech") /boggle
Decorating our car bumpers with heretosexual slogans and and messages of tolerance of straight people...

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TickyAtack posted:

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TheUnholyGhost posted:

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Organizing straight pride parades. (Cause somehow that equates to "hate speech") /boggle
Decorating our car bumpers with heretosexual slogans and and messages of tolerance of straight people...

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LOL. That's such a dumb thing to say because heterosexual intolerance is not a problem. Heterosexuality is celebrated literally everywhere. Dumb dumb.

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Ordal posted:

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I'm not going to seriously argue with you because you know you're wrong but I will say that you obviously have little understanding in the mental health field, particularly abnormal psychology. A behavior being abnormal does not mean that it meets criteria to be studied as something that needs "treatment". There is no pill to suppress homosexual tendencies because homosexuality itself is not something that is psychologically/biologically interesting in the way you are describing it. The distress that comes as a result of homosexuality may be. If you had reworded what you're saying I would agree with you and if you're trying to make the point that the correlated negative effects of homosexuality should be researched then I would also agree, but based on your one line statement, you're an insane idiot.

If you honestly believe that we should have a pill that suppresses homosexual tendencies then you also have to believe that we should have pills/treatment to suppress ALL sexual tendencies of any kind, which is insane and idiotic. What people should be looking at is the distress caused by sexuality, not sexuality itself.

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Ordal posted:

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I don't remember me ever talking about the cause of homosexuality or calling you a hatemonger or gay hater. I'm just trying to make the point that homosexuality ITSELF isn't a problem, only the associated effects of it are but it's cool, you're insane and dumb maybe I am too but I'm pretty sure I'm right and you're wrong so I guess I win ;]

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TheUnholyGhost posted:

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In the future, before calling someone insane and dumb, make sure you know what you're arguing about. It usually helps.

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Ordal posted:

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Allmightybob_MLF posted:

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TheUnholyGhost posted:

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I don't particularly care who you sleep with, but keep it to your goddamn self.

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Men brag about their sexual conquests all the time. You might as well yell at the sky for being blue.

TheUnholyGhost posted:

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You're here. You're queer. We're fraking used to it....shut the hell up already.

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They shouldn't have to be quiet about it.

TheUnholyGhost posted:

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You don't see S&M weirdos and sheep f__kers advertising their deviant sexual lifestyle...

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What's wrong with S&M? Why do you feel bestiality is the same as a consensual act between two people.

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TheUnholyGhost posted:

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Edit for Ticky: Is homosexual intolerance a problem? Again, they have their own TV channel, token sitcom actors, movies, bars, restaurants, organizations, politicians, flags, parades...hell, they're the new black people. I mean, don't get me wrong, it's been an amazing PR campaign. Getting protected class status for a behavior. Bravo. And three snaps in a Z formation.

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TickyAtack posted:

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The majority of our country is intolerant

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TheUnholyGhost posted:

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Gay people have the same rights I have. They already have equal rights.

They don't have SPECIAL rights. No. No they don't.

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FineYoungCannibals posted:

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lol @ homosexuals for thinking they have rights

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TickyAtack posted:

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How is the same rights as you?

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Cuttlery posted:

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If everyone else can fly whatever flags they want sure.

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FineYoungCannibals posted:

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hopefully one day they will find a cure for this horrible disease


what's next, pedophiles will want a flag at schools too?

when does it end?

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Jesus.Christ.. posted:

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FineYoungCannibals posted:

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hopefully one day they will find a cure for this horrible disease


what's next, pedophiles will want a flag at schools too?

when does it end?

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I'm pretty sure it ends with Caoilin stumping a pasture full of sheep.

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HeartView posted:

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Jesus.Christ.. posted:

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FineYoungCannibals posted:

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hopefully one day they will find a cure for this horrible disease


what's next, pedophiles will want a flag at schools too?

when does it end?

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I'm pretty sure it ends with Caoilin stumping a pasture full of sheep.

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I'm pretty sure oral sex with a herd of elephants would trump that.

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TheUnholyGhost posted:

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Please explain how that's idiotic?

We treat every other abnormal behavior chemically, pharmaceutically, etc. Why not abnormal sexual behavior?
There are hundreds of fat pills, stop smoking treatments....why is there not a pill to suppress homosexual tendencies? Because it hasn't be funded for research.

I'm not saying you need to force feed no-gay pills to homosexuals, no one is forcing fat people to diet, or smokers to stop smoking. But they should be given a choice.

Argue with me. I'd love to see it...

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HeartView posted:

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Jesus.Christ.. posted:

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FineYoungCannibals posted:

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hopefully one day they will find a cure for this horrible disease


what's next, pedophiles will want a flag at schools too?

when does it end?

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I'm pretty sure it ends with Caoilin stumping a pasture full of sheep.

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I'm pretty sure oral sex with a herd of elephants would trump that.

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TickyAtack posted:

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TheUnholyGhost posted:

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Gay people have the same rights I have. They already have equal rights.

They don't have SPECIAL rights. No. No they don't.

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Explain this to me. Please, just explain then.

You or I can get married in any state, or have some kind of civil union, which awards us certain benefits in the eyes of government. Gay people are prohibited from this in many states.

How is the same rights as you?

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TheUnholyGhost posted:

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I, a heterosexual male, can't marry a man in any state I want.
Steve Gay, a homosexual male, can't marry a man in any state he wants.

I, a heterosexual male, can marry a woman in any state I want.
Steve Gay, a homosexual male, can marry a woman in any state he wants.

Same. Exact. Rights.
Nowhere in the marriage or civil union laws does it say that I have to "love my partner".
I could "marry" my college roommate for tax benefits in that case.

I don't see how that's complicated to understand.

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TheUnholyGhost posted:

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TickyAtack posted:

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TheUnholyGhost posted:

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Gay people have the same rights I have. They already have equal rights.

They don't have SPECIAL rights. No. No they don't.

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Explain this to me. Please, just explain then.

You or I can get married in any state, or have some kind of civil union, which awards us certain benefits in the eyes of government. Gay people are prohibited from this in many states.

How is the same rights as you?

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I, a heterosexual male, can't marry a man in any state I want.
Steve Gay, a homosexual male, can't marry a man in any state he wants.

I, a heterosexual male, can marry a woman in any state I want.
Steve Gay, a homosexual male, can marry a woman in any state he wants.

Same. Exact. Rights.
Nowhere in the marriage or civil union laws does it say that I have to "love my partner".
I could "marry" my college roommate for tax benefits in that case.

I don't see how that's complicated to understand.

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Fozzie_Bear posted:

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they can do whatever regulations tell them they can do. if it says they can then they can.

its that simple

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TheUnholyGhost posted:

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I, a heterosexual male, can marry a man in any state I want.
Steve Gay, a homosexual male, can marry a man in any state he wants.

I, a heterosexual male, can marry a woman in any state I want.
Steve Gay, a homosexual male, can marry a woman in any state he wants.

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TheNinthSeal posted:

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You can marry a person that biology dictates you are attracted to.

Steve gay cannot marry the person he is biologically attracted to.

The same laws doesn't make it equal, because we are not all born the same. Some people, biologically, have a gluten intolerance. Let's say prisons serve the same past dinner every night, no substitutions. How can you call it equal treatment if some people are fine and some people die from it? Another example, you were born with no dick, it isn't fair to make you use the urinals like the other boys.

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TickyAtack posted:

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Change:

TheUnholyGhost posted:

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I, a heterosexual male, can marry a man in any state I want.
Steve Gay, a homosexual male, can marry a man in any state he wants.

I, a heterosexual male, can marry a woman in any state I want.
Steve Gay, a homosexual male, can marry a woman in any state he wants.

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Exact. Same. Rights.

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TheUnholyGhost posted:

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TickyAtack posted:

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Change:

TheUnholyGhost posted:

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I, a heterosexual male, can marry a man in any state I want.
Steve Gay, a homosexual male, can marry a man in any state he wants.

I, a heterosexual male, can marry a woman in any state I want.
Steve Gay, a homosexual male, can marry a woman in any state he wants.

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Exact. Same. Rights.

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So you agree that we have the exact same rights, currently. Good. That's all I wanted to hear.

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TheUnholyGhost posted:

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They don't have SPECIAL rights. No. No they don't.

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TickyAtack posted:

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TheUnholyGhost posted:

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TickyAtack posted:

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Change:

[quote=TheUnholyGhost]I, a heterosexual male, can marry a man in any state I want.
Steve Gay, a homosexual male, can marry a man in any state he wants.

I, a heterosexual male, can marry a woman in any state I want.
Steve Gay, a homosexual male, can marry a woman in any state he wants.

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Exact. Same. Rights.

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So you agree that we have the exact same rights, currently. Good. That's all I wanted to hear.

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TheUnholyGhost posted:

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They don't have SPECIAL rights. No. No they don't.

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TheUnholyGhost posted:

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I'm a bigot

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TheUnholyGhost posted:

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It doesn't say anywhere that I am required to love the person I marry.
Know what it does say? Opposite sex.
That same right extends to every single person in this country.
I don't fear gay couples getting civil union rights. In fact, I'm for it. What I fear is that it sets a dangerous precedent that we grant special priviledges for a behavior, but if it shuts them up, I'm for it.
Just don't cry when fatties and smokers get their own special rights to the detriment of everyone else in the entire country. And it's not just them. Once you open that door, special rights for a "protected class" (still a behavior), you get things like Affirmative Action that screws everyone for years to come.

But, I'm a homophobic bigot, so what do I know?

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TickyAtack posted:

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Aren't you mad you don't have the freedom to marry a man right now?

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TheUnholyGhost posted:

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TheNinthSeal posted:

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You can marry a person that biology dictates you are attracted to.

Steve gay cannot marry the person he is biologically attracted to.

The same laws doesn't make it equal, because we are not all born the same. Some people, biologically, have a gluten intolerance. Let's say prisons serve the same past dinner every night, no substitutions. How can you call it equal treatment if some people are fine and some people die from it? Another example, you were born with no dick, it isn't fair to make you use the urinals like the other boys.

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Wrong. I can marry a person of the opposite sex. Period. So can every other consenting adult in the United States.

We are not all born the same, but humans are generally hardwired to work a certain way.
Gay people are not "Born that way". That's the whole argument, and it's quite simply false. No child is pulled from the womb "gay". Sexuality isn't even introduced into the equation until puberty.

Your first analogy is ridiculous, because first it involves a prison where your life is regulated because a crime was committed, and secondly it involves death.
Are you suggesting that all gays are criminals? Or that if they don't get married to a gay partner they die?

For a proper analogy, let's go to someone with more than 2 brain cells to rub together.
Are you suggesting, that if Fatty McGee is compelled to eat 20 Big Macs a day, we should create a new law that says any person who has an eating disorder should be provided with free healthcare, double occupancy on airplanes, 20% off at the Piggly Wiggly, and any other law we can think up to make Fatty McGee feel special and protected?
No, you'd address his eating disorder. Not create new laws to excuse it.

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TheUnholyGhost posted:

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BritonGuy posted:

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I see wedding rings on straight people and men introducing their wives all the time, practically advertising to the world that they have sex with each other.

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You see the same rings and introductions from gay men and women.

You know what you don't see straight people do?
Fly flags celebrating their heterosexuality.
Organizing straight pride parades. (Cause somehow that equates to "hate speech") /boggle
Decorating our car bumpers with heretosexual slogans and and messages of tolerance of straight people...

Don't get me wrong, I'm against religion for pushing their bullchit agenda as well. I don't care what you believe in, or who you frak in your own home. But stop trying to celebrate it with me, because I don't give a frak. Shut. The. Hell. Up.

It's not the 1980s. Gays aren't being murdered willy nilly for being gay. You have your own channel on cable. Every sitcom has a token gay person. You're accepted, now please, kindly go frak yourselves and let those of us who don't want to be assaulted with your gay lifestyle every waking second live in peace and quiet.

You've managed to somehow use a behavior to become a protected class, congratulations. You win. Now go away. Fat people and smokers will just have to try harder with flags and parades to get on equal footing...

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TheUnholyGhost posted:

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I'm scared.

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Cawlin posted:

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WOW! Really? I know a lot of you get annoyed with some of the vocally gay posters around here, but I sure as hell hope you're trolling with your votes on this topic... 34 no, 13 yes at this point.

In truth I suppose NO flags other than military unit or US flags should be flown on military bases... HOWEVER if you let people fly other than those, I can't see or even understand any reason why you would disallow others.

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Ordal posted:

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Cawlin posted:

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WOW! Really? I know a lot of you get annoyed with some of the vocally gay posters around here, but I sure as hell hope you're trolling with your votes on this topic... 34 no, 13 yes at this point.

In truth I suppose NO flags other than military unit or US flags should be flown on military bases... HOWEVER if you let people fly other than those, I can't see or even understand any reason why you would disallow others.

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Please explain what current "right" they have to fly a rainbow flag then within military regulations. That is the question at hand is it not? The right to wave a flag?

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Ordal posted:

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Cawlin posted:

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WOW! Really? I know a lot of you get annoyed with some of the vocally gay posters around here, but I sure as hell hope you're trolling with your votes on this topic... 34 no, 13 yes at this point.

In truth I suppose NO flags other than military unit or US flags should be flown on military bases... HOWEVER if you let people fly other than those, I can't see or even understand any reason why you would disallow others.

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Please explain what current "right" they have to fly a rainbow flag then within military regulations. That is the question at hand is it not? The right to wave a flag?

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Cawlin posted:

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Well what right is there to fly any other flag on a military base?

If there is some right to fly "personal" flag as in: not directly affiliated with their military unit or the units on base or the American flag, why should any flag be disallowed?

Honestly I think the question is moot and that no flags outside of Old Glory or specifically sanctioned military unit flags should be allowed, but I can't understand why you'd allow someone to fly their own Jolly Roger and not allow someone else to fly a rainbow...

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Ordal posted:

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Cawlin posted:

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Well what right is there to fly any other flag on a military base?

If there is some right to fly "personal" flag as in: not directly affiliated with their military unit or the units on base or the American flag, why should any flag be disallowed?

Honestly I think the question is moot and that no flags outside of Old Glory or specifically sanctioned military unit flags should be allowed, but I can't understand why you'd allow someone to fly their own Jolly Roger and not allow someone else to fly a rainbow...

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Still doesn't address the question at hand. Tell me what right they have to do so and I'll vote yes. Otherwise you have no grounds to condemn anyone based on their vote.

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Cawlin posted:

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Ordal posted:

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Cawlin posted:

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Well what right is there to fly any other flag on a military base?

If there is some right to fly "personal" flag as in: not directly affiliated with their military unit or the units on base or the American flag, why should any flag be disallowed?

Honestly I think the question is moot and that no flags outside of Old Glory or specifically sanctioned military unit flags should be allowed, but I can't understand why you'd allow someone to fly their own Jolly Roger and not allow someone else to fly a rainbow...

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Still doesn't address the question at hand. Tell me what right they have to do so and I'll vote yes. Otherwise you have no grounds to condemn anyone based on their vote.

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Their right is implied by the right of anyone else to fly other flags not officially sanctioned.

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Ordal posted:

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Cawlin posted:

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Ordal posted:

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Still doesn't address the question at hand. Tell me what right they have to do so and I'll vote yes. Otherwise you have no grounds to condemn anyone based on their vote.

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Their right is implied by the right of anyone else to fly other flags not officially sanctioned.

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Then point out that right via military regulations. I've said it three times, are you that thick?

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Caledric posted:

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I was permitted to fly my Pirate flag outside my hutch. Why can't they fly whatever flag they want?

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jonus156 posted:

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I love how people say homosexuality isnt natural. do you have any idea how many species in nature practice homosexuality.

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jonus156 posted:

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I love how people say homosexuality isnt natural. do you have any idea how many species in nature practice homosexuality.

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Ordal posted:

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I guess the answer is yes, you are that thick. Can't even be bothered to read a whole thread hahahah

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Cawlin posted:

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LOL I haven't bothered to read all the drivel in this thread.

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Cawlin posted:

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Caledric posted:

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I was permitted to fly my Pirate flag outside my hutch. Why can't they fly whatever flag they want?

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If THIS was allowed (and assuming the pirate flag Caledric is speaking about was not an officially unit flag), then flying a rainbow should be allowed. If flying a rainbow is not allowed, then neither should flying a Jolly Roger be allowed.

Honestly it's that fkn simple...

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Cawlin posted:

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Ordal posted:

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I guess the answer is yes, you are that thick. Can't even be bothered to read a whole thread hahahah

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So do you support being allowed to fly other personal flags on a military base?

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Fozzie_Bear posted:

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jonus156 posted:

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I love how people say homosexuality isnt natural. do you have any idea how many species in nature practice homosexuality.

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how many species of animals have recreational sex?

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Ordal posted:

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Cawlin posted:

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LOL I haven't bothered to read all the drivel in this thread.

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Then you shouldn't be posting.

Cawlin posted:

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Caledric posted:

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I was permitted to fly my Pirate flag outside my hutch. Why can't they fly whatever flag they want?

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If THIS was allowed (and assuming the pirate flag Caledric is speaking about was not an officially unit flag), then flying a rainbow should be allowed. If flying a rainbow is not allowed, then neither should flying a Jolly Roger be allowed.

Honestly it's that fkn simple...

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Wrong. Being permitted is not the same thing as having the right to do something, you really are thick it seems.

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Cawlin posted:

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Fact: a rule ceases to be meaningful or even valid unless it is uniformly enforced. If you allow someone to break the rule, then you must allow everyone to break it or you lose the authority to enforce the rule.

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Lothland posted:

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Fozzie_Bear posted:

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jonus156 posted:

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I love how people say homosexuality isnt natural. do you have any idea how many species in nature practice homosexuality.

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how many species of animals have recreational sex?

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A surprising amount actually.

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Dark_EternalFF posted:

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I FARTED

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BritonGuy posted:

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Dark_EternalFF posted:

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I FARTED

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A more thoughtful reply than TUG's no-reply, I suppose.

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Fozzie_Bear posted:

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they can do whatever regulations tell them they can do. if it says they can then they can.

its that simple

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Gildash posted:

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Fozzie_Bear posted:

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they can do whatever regulations tell them they can do. if it says they can then they can.

its that simple

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This.

If regulations say you can fly any flag you want, it being a gay pride flag has nothing to do with it.

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Ordal posted:

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Sorry but as the question stands, you are incorrect and I am correct. This is not a "semantics" issue or whatever you want to call it, it's a question of rights which is what was asked. If the OP wanted a position based on opinion then they would have phrased the question differently.

"Fact: a rule ceases to be meaningful or even valid unless it is uniformly enforced. If you allow someone to break the rule, then you must allow everyone to break it or you lose the authority to enforce the rule. "

Factually, conceptually, and pragmatically incorrect.

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TheUnholyGhost posted:

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Absofrakinglutely not.

I don't particularly care who you sleep with, but keep it to your goddamn self.

No agenda should be pushed on military bases...

You're here. You're queer. We're fraking used to it....shut the hell up already.

You don't know how many of my gay friends wish these over the top f__s (their words, not mine) would just shut their mouths and live their lives.

You don't see S&M weirdos and sheep f__kers advertising their deviant sexual lifestyle...

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Cawlin posted:

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Selectively deciding to enforce a rule against one group of people and not another is called discrimination. So if you allow a Nascar Flag but disallow a rainbow flag, you're discriminating.

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Cawlin posted:

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To the question at hand: As I've said numerous times already, if personal flags are allowed to be flown, then anyone should be allowed to fly any flag they want. Period.

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Ordal posted:

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BritonGuy posted:

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Dark_EternalFF posted:

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I FARTED

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A more thoughtful reply than TUG's no-reply, I suppose.

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As well as anything Cawlin has ever posted.

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BritonGuy posted:

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Cawlin; you more or less agree with Ordal. And yet you've spent like 2 pages arguing against him for the sake of pride, not wanting to lose, or just plain ignorance of what his opinion is.

Ignore your hypothetical tangent situations and read his opinion. It's pretty easy to understand, and it isn't in any way discriminatory or wrong.

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Cawlin posted:

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BritonGuy posted:

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Cawlin; you more or less agree with Ordal. And yet you've spent like 2 pages arguing against him for the sake of pride, not wanting to lose, or just plain ignorance of what his opinion is.

Ignore your hypothetical tangent situations and read his opinion. It's pretty easy to understand, and it isn't in any way discriminatory or wrong.

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He wants to argue the matter on the basis of the word "right" vs. "allowed". It is an exceptionally nitpicky and trollish argument, even for this place. I stated my point clearly, he has come around to stating that he agrees with me but wants to make a point about things being a "right" vs. being "allowed". I won't argue that because it's not germane to the issue. You want it to be germane because you want to have some sort of semantic celebration. That makes you both idiots and beneath further consideration.

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Ordal posted:

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Cawlin posted:

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BritonGuy posted:

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Cawlin; you more or less agree with Ordal. And yet you've spent like 2 pages arguing against him for the sake of pride, not wanting to lose, or just plain ignorance of what his opinion is.

Ignore your hypothetical tangent situations and read his opinion. It's pretty easy to understand, and it isn't in any way discriminatory or wrong.

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He wants to argue the matter on the basis of the word "right" vs. "allowed". It is an exceptionally nitpicky and trollish argument, even for this place. I stated my point clearly, he has come around to stating that he agrees with me but wants to make a point about things being a "right" vs. being "allowed". I won't argue that because it's not germane to the issue. You want it to be germane because you want to have some sort of semantic celebration. That makes you both idiots and beneath further consideration.

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hahahahaha you can't get much wronger.

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i have a picture from Gulf War 1 where me and another guy got our hands on a South Carolina state flag (the one with the dixie symbol within) and ran it up on top of 15 or so Cammie Netting poles - thru the heater stack vent in the GP Tent Large.

Shortly after we put it up, we got called out to the COs office because the base chaplain took offense to the fact that it had a slavery connotation to it.

In the end, we just took it down.

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BritonGuy posted:

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TheUnholyGhost posted:

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Absofrakinglutely not.

I don't particularly care who you sleep with, but keep it to your goddamn self.

No agenda should be pushed on military bases...

You're here. You're queer. We're fraking used to it....shut the hell up already.

You don't know how many of my gay friends wish these over the top f__s (their words, not mine) would just shut their mouths and live their lives.

You don't see S&M weirdos and sheep f__kers advertising their deviant sexual lifestyle...

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I see wedding rings on straight people and men introducing their wives all the time, practically advertising to the world that they have sex with each other.

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TheUnholyGhost posted:

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TickyAtack posted:

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TheUnholyGhost posted:

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Gay people have the same rights I have. They already have equal rights.

They don't have SPECIAL rights. No. No they don't.

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Explain this to me. Please, just explain then.

You or I can get married in any state, or have some kind of civil union, which awards us certain benefits in the eyes of government. Gay people are prohibited from this in many states.

How is the same rights as you?

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I, a heterosexual male, can't marry a man in any state I want.
Steve Gay, a homosexual male, can't marry a man in any state he wants.

I, a heterosexual male, can marry a woman in any state I want.
Steve Gay, a homosexual male, can marry a woman in any state he wants.

Same. Exact. Rights.
Nowhere in the marriage or civil union laws does it say that I have to "love my partner".
I could "marry" my college roommate for tax benefits in that case.

I don't see how that's complicated to understand.

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HeartView posted:

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Can we get back to more pleasant conversational topics like oral sex with elephants?

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JD_HOGG posted:

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HeartView posted:

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Can we get back to more pleasant conversational topics like oral sex with elephants?

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OH HAI DID SOMEONE SAY ORAL SEX WIT ELEPHANT?!?

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Lanacan posted:

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BritonGuy posted:

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TheUnholyGhost posted:

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Absofrakinglutely not.

I don't particularly care who you sleep with, but keep it to your goddamn self.

No agenda should be pushed on military bases...

You're here. You're queer. We're fraking used to it....shut the hell up already.

You don't know how many of my gay friends wish these over the top f__s (their words, not mine) would just shut their mouths and live their lives.

You don't see S&M weirdos and sheep f__kers advertising their deviant sexual lifestyle...

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I see wedding rings on straight people and men introducing their wives all the time, practically advertising to the world that they have sex with each other.

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And I've seen Gays do it as well after Gay marriage became legal in some states. What's your point besides trolling?

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TheUnholyGhost posted:

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You know what you don't see straight people do?
Fly flags celebrating their heterosexuality.

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TheUnholyGhost posted:

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Yes...one day this country will allow this mental condition and/or chemical imbalance to be researched and treated.

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TheUnholyGhost posted:

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Gay people have the same rights I have. They already have equal rights.

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notmforce2k posted:

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How do you even discuss these issues with someone like this guy?

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jeune posted:

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It is obvious from this post that people in the military get too butthurt about anything and need their freedoms taken away while serving.

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Tai-Daishar_MT posted:

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jeune posted:

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It is obvious from this post that people in the military get too butthurt about anything and need their freedoms taken away while serving.

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In a thread full of nonsensical comments, this manages to take the cake by a large margin. I can't fathom the level of idiocy required to come up with this based upon the material given within this thread.

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Tai-Daishar_MT posted:

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It is not in the news, there were no links to any story, simply a posted picture. So all you have here are the comments of primarily non-military posters talking about whether it is a right or permissible action. To draw conclusions of the state of the Armed Forces based on this is stupidity of epic proportions. You are free to degrade those serving in the military all you wish, that is your guaranteed right, but this is just ridiculous.

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Tai-Daishar_MT posted:

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None of that was in this thread, you even said that you were basing your opinion on the comments within this thread so try to stay focused here.

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jeune posted:

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Tai-Daishar_MT posted:

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None of that was in this thread, you even said that you were basing your opinion on the comments within this thread so try to stay focused here.

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Yes I was basing my opinion off of the known military people in this thread... and I verified it after you were acting like someone made up this story.

Sounds like you are fishing for something.

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Kordirn posted:

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Really only a homophobe would get riled up about a rainbow flag.

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