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NBC News issued an apology Tuesday for the way it handled the broadcasting of the 911 conversation between George Zimmerman and a police dispatcher in the Trayvon Martin case.
Following reports that NBC aired audio of the call was edited in a way that implied Zimmerman was racist, the network launched an internal investigation.
"During our investigation it became evident that there was an error made in the production process that we deeply regret. We will be taking the necessary steps to prevent this from happening in the future and apologize to our viewers," the network said in a statement cited by The Washington Post.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/04/03/nbc-issues-apology-edited-zimmerman-11-call/?test=latestnews#ixzz1r4j14ray
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i want to see the people directly involved serve jail time for it. i'm sick of the news being sensationalized for either ratings or personal/political motivations. this kind of crap needs to be taken more seriously.
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If he's convicted though shouldn't the money go to Trayvon's family? The whole profiting from crime thing.
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If he's convicted though shouldn't the money go to Trayvon's family? The whole profiting from crime thing.
No.
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Itab posted:
If he's convicted though shouldn't the money go to Trayvon's family? The whole profiting from crime thing.
Except in this country you are innocent until proven guilty, beyond the shadow of the doubt.
Am I wrong for still believing in that concept?
The way it looks right now, it would be stretch to try and convict this guy on anything.
Its his story collaborated by eye witnesses and then other side of story that has parts fabricated by the mass media.
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he woudlnt be profiting from a crime. he would be getting compensation for NBC doing what they did to him
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Sith_Mauler posted:
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If he's convicted though shouldn't the money go to Trayvon's family? The whole profiting from crime thing.
Except in this country your still innocent until proven guilty beyond the shadow of the doubt.
Am I wrong for still believing in that concept?
You must have missed that part of what I said.
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Fozzie_Bear posted:
he woudlnt be profiting from a crime. he would be getting compensation for NBC doing what they did to him
Good point. It does sway public opinion with how they portrayed the call.
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CNN (TV) is reporting alleged racist language used by Zimmerman and has certain professionals backing it up, but the audio is mostly static and unclear from what I've heard of it. If it's the presented to a jury, I think an expert witness will have to instruct the jury about what they're hearing, rather than it being obvious by listening to it.
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It didn't even imply that he was racist. It implied that he freely offered the observation "he looks black", in a neutral, even friendly tone. And that he had previously said the person looks suspicious.
It is up to the individual to infer whether that indicates any racism, and that was overall what NBC was going for with the segment. "Let the viewer decide". That 5 second phone clip would play very little role in a person's verdict, and I know I wouldn't really notice or infer anything hearing it for the first time. I just don't think there is anything that comes off racist even with the partial conversation.
However FOX news jumped on this very well, so politically and as a business decision, it makes sense for NBC to play along and apologize.
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It didn't even imply that he was racist. It implied that he freely offered the observation "he looks black", in a neutral, even friendly tone. And that he had previously said the person looks suspicious.
It is up to the individual to infer whether that indicates any racism, and that was overall what NBC was going for with the segment. "Let the viewer decide". That 5 second phone clip overall would play very little role in a person's verdict.
However FOX news jumped on this very well, so politically and as a business decision, it makes sense for NBC to play along and apologize.
NBCs version
Zimmerman: This guy looks like he’s up to no good. He looks black.
Here’s how the actual conversation went down:
Zimmerman: This guy looks like he’s up to no good. Or he’s on drugs or something. It’s raining and he’s just walking around, looking about.
Dispatcher: OK, and this guy — is he black, white or Hispanic?
Zimmerman: He looks black.
yeah editing that does not change the racial overtones at all 
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Except that quote wasn't given at all. I guess you haven't watched the clip?
"This guy..." was on a completely separate text line, AND graphic, from "He looks black". They did what they do every time, when jumping between parts of a phone convo.
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Sith_Mauler posted:
levgre posted:
It didn't even imply that he was racist. It implied that he freely offered the observation "he looks black", in a neutral, even friendly tone. And that he had previously said the person looks suspicious.
It is up to the individual to infer whether that indicates any racism, and that was overall what NBC was going for with the segment. "Let the viewer decide". That 5 second phone clip overall would play very little role in a person's verdict.
However FOX news jumped on this very well, so politically and as a business decision, it makes sense for NBC to play along and apologize.
NBCs version
Zimmerman: This guy looks like he’s up to no good. He looks black.
Here’s how the actual conversation went down:
Zimmerman: This guy looks like he’s up to no good. Or he’s on drugs or something. It’s raining and he’s just walking around, looking about.
Dispatcher: OK, and this guy — is he black, white or Hispanic?
Zimmerman: He looks black.
yeah editing that does not change the racial overtones at all
Splicing audio is ok in the eyes of liberals like levgre. They want to hear what they want to hear and don't care for authenticity.
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Splicing audio is done constantly in the news. It is entertainment. They interview reporters standing in flood waters. They hype up every little election event. They cut up a phone conversation so the viewer doesn't get bored in those 10 seconds and doze off.
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Splicing audio is done constantly in the news. It is entertainment. They interview reporters standing in flood waters. They hype up every little election event. They cut up a phone conversation so the viewer doesn't get bored in those 10 seconds and doze off.
the news is not entertainment, unless you like reading supermarket tabloids.
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Splicing audio is done constantly in the news. It is entertainment. They interview reporters standing in flood waters. They hype up every little election event. They cut up a phone conversation so the viewer doesn't get bored in those 10 seconds and doze off.
So is it your opinion that liberal media is only entertainment and should not be trusted?
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Nah, just that many of their broadcasts are not great for in-depth information. There are some decent in-depth specials though.
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i want to see the people directly involved serve jail time for it. i'm sick of the news being sensationalized for either ratings or personal/political motivations. this kind of crap needs to be taken more seriously.
exactly..
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BritonGuy posted:
Sith_Mauler posted:
levgre posted:
It didn't even imply that he was racist. It implied that he freely offered the observation "he looks black", in a neutral, even friendly tone. And that he had previously said the person looks suspicious.
It is up to the individual to infer whether that indicates any racism, and that was overall what NBC was going for with the segment. "Let the viewer decide". That 5 second phone clip overall would play very little role in a person's verdict.
However FOX news jumped on this very well, so politically and as a business decision, it makes sense for NBC to play along and apologize.
NBCs version
Zimmerman: This guy looks like he’s up to no good. He looks black.
Here’s how the actual conversation went down:
Zimmerman: This guy looks like he’s up to no good. Or he’s on drugs or something. It’s raining and he’s just walking around, looking about.
Dispatcher: OK, and this guy — is he black, white or Hispanic?
Zimmerman: He looks black.
yeah editing that does not change the racial overtones at all
Splicing audio is ok in the eyes of liberals like levgre. They want to hear what they want to hear and don't care for authenticity.
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Splicing audio is ok in the eyes of liberals like levgre. They want to hear what they want to hear and don't care for authenticity.
LOL!
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Tipztoe posted:
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i want to see the people directly involved serve jail time for it. i'm sick of the news being sensationalized for either ratings or personal/political motivations. this kind of crap needs to be taken more seriously.
exactly..
but it will not.
its funny that a tool like TV, who's creation was supposed to be a boon for education, has become a tool of the establishment to shape the way that society perceives its day to day reality.
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Fozzie_Bear posted:
Tipztoe posted:
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i want to see the people directly involved serve jail time for it. i'm sick of the news being sensationalized for either ratings or personal/political motivations. this kind of crap needs to be taken more seriously.
exactly..
but it will not.
its funny that a tool like TV, who's creation was supposed to be a boon for education, has become a tool of the establishment to shape the way that society perceives its day to day reality.
its called re-education.
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Except in this country you are innocent until proven guilty, beyond the shadow of the doubt.
No. The criteria is beyond *reasonable* doubt. There's a huge difference.
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Except in this country you are innocent until proven guilty, beyond the shadow of the doubt.
No. The criteria is beyond *reasonable* doubt. There's a huge difference.
except its a interchangeable term because in the end because the prosecuting office has to eliminate all doubt.
and in this case I dont see how a logical sane person cannot doubt either side of the story.
even with all the muck and lies there are some facts, but not enough to convict anyone.
that is why the state attorney general didnt charge him to begin with.
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if you had a problem with the media you would stop watching news on television and stop visiting their websites. unless you like giving attention and advertising dollars to the people you dislike.
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Sith_Mauler posted:
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Except in this country you are innocent until proven guilty, beyond the shadow of the doubt.
No. The criteria is beyond *reasonable* doubt. There's a huge difference.
except its a interchangeable term because in the end because the prosecuting office has to eliminate all doubt.
enter the fundamental problem with juries. lol!!!
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Well it's apparently good for NBC that they don't have levgre handling their legal matters. He's so blind he'd go all the way to the mat fighting the losing battle, defending the race war propaganda as a wholesome edit.
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it became evident that there was an error made in the production process
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fact of the matter is, race bias in this case is only a factor on the surface thanks to media. Bias has NOTHING to do with the actual case at hand.
Lets for he moment assume Zimmerman WAS racist... does that mean he had a predilection towards being violent to that race? does racial bias automatically constitute racial violence?
what if an audio recording came out of Zimmerman yelling "HELP THIS N***** IS WHOOPIN MY ARSE" *gunshot*
you see racist prejudice is only a tool being used to try and polarize the public towards a certain way of thinking thanks to situational ethics. thats why the LAW is based on facts
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