We will be bringing Pendragon Test Server offline on Wednesday, April 4th, for the implementation of Test Patch 1.112

Balance Changes

All toxic Direct Damage poisons have had their damage values reduced by 45%.

Novoal7 posted:

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LOL

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Mythic posted:

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Rampage, has had its percentage to prevent all debuffs increased from 35% to 100%.

When using Rampage, the Heavy Tank’s group will receive the Bolster effect, blocking 100% of stat debuffs only, for 20 seconds.

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Alex_Loaded posted:

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stoicism for maulers. possibly groupaable?

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CarlSpacklerGalunga posted:

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The ML10 Melee Cloak’s Shroud of Silence ability has been changed to Shroud of Protection, a 30% secondary magic resistance buff for 20 seconds.


DOH>.....

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FBI_OO posted:

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I guess alb caster groups will QQ alittle now...

Inc alb tank group

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Kahzee posted:

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they nerfed silence on tank ml10 cloak

now the cloak is pointless

edit: also wtf with relic change, now the temples are pointless?

Why does mythic/ea find it neccesary to make things worthless

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Devaster-S- posted:

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FBI_OO posted:

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I guess alb caster groups will QQ alittle now...

Inc alb tank group

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With no silence? Alb will be even more dominant.

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Devaster-S- posted:

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FBI_OO posted:

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I guess alb caster groups will QQ alittle now...

Inc alb tank group

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With no silence? Alb will be even more dominant.

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___Tty___ posted:

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Devaster-S- posted:

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FBI_OO posted:

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I guess alb caster groups will QQ alittle now...

Inc alb tank group

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With no silence? Alb will be even more dominant.

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Even though you can just cure the profanity..

I guess now the cleric / tic / friar doesn't even gotta waste the time to do that.

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jojobonojo posted:

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Rear snare on friars. I don't believe it. Confirm this isn't another april fools gag.

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PraoKoN posted:

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nyce friar style changes. I hope this mean Fura will make MOAR friar vids

RARE snare is win

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Beoga posted:

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PraoKoN posted:

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nyce friar style changes. I hope this mean Fura will make MOAR friar vids

RARE snare is win

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Rear snare is nice to have and surely usefull but friars main problem is that they dont land their styles ( Not enough Dex / Weaponskill ) and that their celerity shout does not stack with their haste buff so this change wont change the fact that staff friars just suck.

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carnesaur posted:

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I agree with the keep silence but make it purgeable.

maybe change it to a 100% nearsight?

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Beoga posted:

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PraoKoN posted:

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nyce friar style changes. I hope this mean Fura will make MOAR friar vids

RARE snare is win

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Rear snare is nice to have and surely usefull but friars main problem is that they dont land their styles ( Not enough Dex / Weaponskill ) and that their [b]celerity shout[b] does not stack with their haste buff so this change wont change the fact that staff friars just suck.

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jojobonojo posted:

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Silence change really sucks.
It was really handy against sojos and speed classes in general


Not sure about this relic business either. Whoever has the bigger zerg wins now since a smaller realm can't effectively defend multiple keeps. Camping bled/crauch was a surefire way to defend against relic loss when confronted with the alb zergs which strike multiple places at the same time with more numbers than the other realms can field. They had to take those keeps, and they can just ignore them.

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DarkPCK posted:

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___Tty___ posted:

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Devaster-S- posted:

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[quote=FBI_OO]I guess alb caster groups will QQ alittle now...

Inc alb tank group

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With no silence? Alb will be even more dominant.

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Even though you can just cure the profanity..

I guess now the cleric / tic / friar doesn't even gotta waste the time to do that.

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carnesaur posted:

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No its the ability to not cast at all... even instas that are on yourself ie purge.

so by changing it from silence to nearsight, you could get self instead and purge it.

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carnesaur posted:

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Beoga posted:

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PraoKoN posted:

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nyce friar style changes. I hope this mean Fura will make MOAR friar vids

RARE snare is win

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Rear snare is nice to have and surely usefull but friars main problem is that they dont land their styles ( Not enough Dex / Weaponskill ) and that their celerity shout does not stack with their haste buff so this change wont change the fact that staff friars just suck.

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And it should stay that way

Friar = warden, and warden is same way. its a healer first and a fighter second.

shouldnt be some style landing rambo tank killer.

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jojobonojo posted:

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It's haste not celerity, and now it coexists!

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___Tty___ posted:

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carnesaur posted:

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No its the ability to not cast at all... even instas that are on yourself ie purge.

so by changing it from silence to nearsight, you could get self instead and purge it.

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You can cure it, via cure nearsight. Therefore it's a nearsight. It even says, 100% nearsight.

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Gurrier posted:

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My work here is done

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Eaderbreca posted:

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carnesaur posted:

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Beoga posted:

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[quote=PraoKoN]nyce friar style changes. I hope this mean Fura will make MOAR friar vids

RARE snare is win

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Rear snare is nice to have and surely usefull but friars main problem is that they dont land their styles ( Not enough Dex / Weaponskill ) and that their celerity shout does not stack with their haste buff so this change wont change the fact that staff friars just suck.

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And it should stay that way

Friar = warden, and warden is same way. its a healer first and a fighter second.

shouldnt be some style landing rambo tank killer.

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Beoga posted:

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jojobonojo posted:

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It's haste not celerity, and now it coexists!

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Friars do have a celerity shout too and it still wont stack with friar haste buff after this patch.

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Beoga posted:

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jojobonojo posted:

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It's haste not celerity, and now it coexists!

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Friars do have a celerity shout too and it still wont stack with friar haste buff after this patch.

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DarkPCK posted:

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___Tty___ posted:

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carnesaur posted:

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No its the ability to not cast at all... even instas that are on yourself ie purge.

so by changing it from silence to nearsight, you could get self instead and purge it.

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You can cure it, via cure nearsight. Therefore it's a nearsight. It even says, 100% nearsight.

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You are dumb. It's not a 100% nearsight. Try casting shields, pbae, or any of the spells that have no range, and it will give you the silence message.

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DarkPCK posted:

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___Tty___ posted:

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Devaster-S- posted:

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[quote=FBI_OO]I guess alb caster groups will QQ alittle now...

Inc alb tank group

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With no silence? Alb will be even more dominant.

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Even though you can just cure the profanity..

I guess now the cleric / tic / friar doesn't even gotta waste the time to do that.

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Eaderbreca posted:

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carnesaur posted:

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Beoga posted:

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[quote=PraoKoN]nyce friar style changes. I hope this mean Fura will make MOAR friar vids

RARE snare is win

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Rear snare is nice to have and surely usefull but friars main problem is that they dont land their styles ( Not enough Dex / Weaponskill ) and that their celerity shout does not stack with their haste buff so this change wont change the fact that staff friars just suck.

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And it should stay that way

Friar = warden, and warden is same way. its a healer first and a fighter second.

shouldnt be some style landing rambo tank killer.

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Eaderbreca posted:

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Beoga posted:

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jojobonojo posted:

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It's haste not celerity, and now it coexists!

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Friars do have a celerity shout too and it still wont stack with friar haste buff after this patch.

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Friars have no celerity. It's a haste shout and now it will co exist.
Your incompetence is insulting.

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___Tty___ posted:

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It even says, 100% nearsight.

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___Tty___ posted:

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I'm merely stating that it's a 100% nearsight.

Smartass.

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Beoga posted:

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Was labersch du ? Du labersch den ganzen Tag !

Celerity ... Haste ... Haste ... Celerity .... profanity it.

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dryedmeats posted:

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Lol @ ns cast range nerf

Ha ha

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carnesaur posted:

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Eaderbreca posted:

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Haste shout now co-exists with self haste, which provides 30 sec burst dps. Coupled with rear snare it makes Friars perfectly whine. Low dex/ws complaint is irrelevant, since with a bit of footwork you can send virgin rr12 heavy tanks running back to their keeps.

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haste doesnt mean squat if you can't land the hits

Come at me virgin friars.

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DarkPCK posted:

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___Tty___ posted:

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It even says, 100% nearsight.

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___Tty___ posted:

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I'm merely stating that it's a 100% nearsight.

Smartass.

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The delve has not read 100% nearsight since before the ML10 revamp years ago. Smartass.

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___Tty___ posted:

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Thanks for believing all of that.



That's like me saying zo is a 25% ns.

2 e z

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DarkPCK posted:

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___Tty___ posted:

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Thanks for believing all of that.



That's like me saying zo is a 25% ns.

2 e z

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Remember kids, pretend you're trolling when you get proven wrong. I guess you have time since all you do is sit in #ywain and beg for invites that never come. So ez.

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___Tty___ posted:

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DarkPCK posted:

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___Tty___ posted:

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Thanks for believing all of that.



That's like me saying zo is a 25% ns.

2 e z

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Remember kids, pretend you're trolling when you get proven wrong. I guess you have time since all you do is sit in #ywain and beg for invites that never come. So ez.

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No need to get mad.

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DarkPCK posted:

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___Tty___ posted:

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Thanks for believing all of that.



That's like me saying zo is a 25% ns.

2 e z

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Remember kids, pretend you're trolling when you get proven wrong. I guess you have time since all you do is sit in #ywain and beg for invites that never come. So ez.

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Zultanious posted:

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everything else is kinda cool.

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koee posted:

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Paladin
The Armor Factor Chant line of spells will now stack with all other Armor Factor bonuses.
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Secondary magic resists no longer incorrectly increase the duration of Crowd Control spells.

Inc the fotm alb tank train with 80% spell resists, det9 + stoic + 1200AF + 33ABS.

At least mid/hib tank trains will be killable by alb melee at only 800AF + 28 ABS (or w/e).

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koee posted:

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Paladin
The Armor Factor Chant line of spells will now stack with all other Armor Factor bonuses.
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Secondary magic resists no longer incorrectly increase the duration of Crowd Control spells.

Inc the fotm alb tank train with 80% spell resists, det9 + stoic + 1200AF + 33ABS.

At least mid/hib tank trains will be killable by alb melee at only 800AF + 28 ABS (or w/e).

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patch posted:

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Fixed an issue with spell debuff duration so it now respects caster’s spell penetration bonus.

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Zultanious posted:

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pretty interesting notes. I think the mentalist speedwarp was necessary honestly since they never got convoker.

The animist and necro spell pierce were already fixed so I'm not sure what's going on here? Still mad about that for necros only because they are utterly worthless now. But I think they need some love in other areas to makke up for it. Maybe one day.

Heavy tank changes = yay we were asking for something like this not that long ago.

BD changes = not exactly sure how that is going to work but interesting

Endurance changes = not that needed honestly but cool I suppose

Relic changes = kinda confused about still

Silence cloak = I don't think needed to be nerfed but meh

everything else is kinda cool.

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Beoga posted:

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PraoKoN posted:

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nyce friar style changes. I hope this mean Fura will make MOAR friar vids

RARE snare is win

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Rear snare is nice to have and surely usefull but friars main problem is that they dont land their styles ( Not enough Dex / Weaponskill ) and that their celerity shout does not stack with their haste buff so this change wont change the fact that staff friars just suck.

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Geeo posted:

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No sav nerf

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Eaderbreca posted:

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carnesaur posted:

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Eaderbreca posted:

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Haste shout now co-exists with self haste, which provides 30 sec burst dps. Coupled with rear snare it makes Friars perfectly whine. Low dex/ws complaint is irrelevant, since with a bit of footwork you can send virgin rr12 heavy tanks running back to their keeps.

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haste doesnt mean squat if you can't land the hits

Come at me virgin friars.

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You were already sent running by Alexandriite.

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Exp_Tristan posted:

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Love the OF(Old Frontiers) 1 Relic keep style of relics!

What are they gonna do with the relic walls? Just make a safe zone out of it?

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yeoson posted:

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Still no vamp love

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phise posted:

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I don't think there's anything Mythic could do to get me to come back.

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GT_mrpolarbear posted:

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Isn't there a cap on end regen?

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redlegOIF posted:

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phise posted:

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I don't think there's anything Mythic could do to get me to come back.

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They could make the game Free2Play. This game is not worth 15 bucks a month, let alone 5.
Plus the need for buff bots, and please spare me your realm buffs arguments people. The same people that will tell you realm buffs are good enough are the same people that will tell you to burn a template because it doesn't have a certain stat capped. Cognitive Dissonance.

If this game ever goes Free2Play and they up realm buffs to cap, I'll come back, until then, enjoy your crack.

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AudioslaveMID posted:

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So can you still use a warship to carry back a relic? It was my preferred method when not doing POC and its more stylish

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Dogunugh posted:

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yeoson posted:

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Still no vamp love

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Play a real class, imo. And taking silence away IS vamp love...nothing I loved more than silencing a pos vamp and watching him squirm as he tried desperately to claw spam.

Don't understand the silence removal at all. Was this really highly sought for? I mean, yeah silence can win solo battles, but in a group fight it's just another tool that may or may not matter in the long run. Gonna feedback on this one.

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carnesaur posted:

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Eaderbreca posted:

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carnesaur posted:

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haste doesnt mean squat if you can't land the hits

Come at me virgin friars.

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You were already sent running by Alexandriite.

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Yeah after a fight where I /use celerity charge, and dropped him before he could get a proc off


I love it when virgins remember fights where they win but not the ones where they lose

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Zultanious posted:

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... Still mad about that for necros only because they are utterly worthless now. But I think they need some love in other areas to makke up for it. Maybe one day.

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SaiyanOfDarkness posted:

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•Animist pets and bombers are no longer affected by resist pierce bonuses beyond the 10% cap.

Correct me if I'm wrong.. but wasn't this already put in like 20 patches ago?

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Devaster-S- posted:

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Silence needs to be changed so that it can be purged. Not this profanity dumb change. If your silence isn't up and you are getting MoC'd on, your groupmate's silence will save you. After these changes your groupmate won't be able to give you their free EM5.

Couple ways to do this.

1. Change it back to 100% NS on a different immunity than normal NS. That way it can be purged or cured.
2. Change it so you cannot use damaging spells for the duration. Cure silence/ns ability cures it. Or you can purge it.

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SaiyanOfDarkness posted:

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Devaster-S- posted:

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Silence needs to be changed so that it can be purged. Not this profanity dumb change. If your silence isn't up and you are getting MoC'd on, your groupmate's silence will save you. After these changes your groupmate won't be able to give you their free EM5.

Couple ways to do this.

1. Change it back to 100% NS on a different immunity than normal NS. That way it can be purged or cured.
2. Change it so you cannot use damaging spells for the duration. Cure silence/ns ability cures it. Or you can purge it.

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They could make the cloak ability to be a target instead of self too.

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Grimreeperx posted:

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Beoga posted:

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PraoKoN posted:

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nyce friar style changes. I hope this mean Fura will make MOAR friar vids

RARE snare is win

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Rear snare is nice to have and surely usefull but friars main problem is that they dont land their styles ( Not enough Dex / Weaponskill ) and that their celerity shout does not stack with their haste buff so this change wont change the fact that staff friars just suck.

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I don't know if you understand how powerful friars are going to be now? let me lay it down for you, 17% celerity +34% self haste + 10% ToA haste with 250qui and a 5.8 weapon = 1.58attack speed... friars can now almost attack at max attack speed while self haste is up, run through to back snare and KITE to HEAL THEM SELVES!!!! once self haste fades you have buffbot haste to back you up so your not completely gimp

Edit: Oh and I can also attack this fast with a 5.8 scythe now too and pretty much cap attack speed with 5.5speed scythe >:)

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Eaderbreca posted:

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carnesaur posted:

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Eaderbreca posted:

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[quote=carnesaur]


haste doesnt mean squat if you can't land the hits

Come at me virgin friars.

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You were already sent running by Alexandriite.

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Yeah after a fight where I /use celerity charge, and dropped him before he could get a proc off


I love it when virgins remember fights where they win but not the ones where they lose

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SaiyanOfDarkness posted:

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Where is the mezz dampening spell for Midgard???????? ffs

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Eaderbreca posted:

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carnesaur posted:

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Eaderbreca posted:

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Haste shout now co-exists with self haste, which provides 30 sec burst dps. Coupled with rear snare it makes Friars perfectly whine. Low dex/ws complaint is irrelevant, since with a bit of footwork you can send virgin rr12 heavy tanks running back to their keeps.

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haste doesnt mean squat if you can't land the hits

Come at me virgin friars.

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You were already sent running by Alexandriite.

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Grimreeperx posted:

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Beoga posted:

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PraoKoN posted:

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nyce friar style changes. I hope this mean Fura will make MOAR friar vids

RARE snare is win

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Rear snare is nice to have and surely usefull but friars main problem is that they dont land their styles ( Not enough Dex / Weaponskill ) and that their celerity shout does not stack with their haste buff so this change wont change the fact that staff friars just suck.

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I don't know if you understand how powerful friars are going to be now? let me lay it down for you, 17% celerity +34% self haste + 10% ToA haste with 250qui and a 5.8 weapon = 1.58attack speed... friars can now almost attack at max attack speed while self haste is up, run through to back snare and KITE to HEAL THEM SELVES!!!! once self haste fades you have druid haste to back you up so your not completely gimp

Edit: Oh and I can also attack this fast with a 5.8 scythe now too and pretty much cap attack speed with 5.5speed scythe >:)

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DarkPCK posted:

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SaiyanOfDarkness posted:

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Where is the mezz dampening spell for Midgard???????? ffs

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3-4 demezzers in a group, at least 1-2 of which will have QC + Concentration. Not that you 8v8 or anything~

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Eaderbreca posted:

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carnesaur posted:

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[quote=Eaderbreca]

Haste shout now co-exists with self haste, which provides 30 sec burst dps. Coupled with rear snare it makes Friars perfectly whine. Low dex/ws complaint is irrelevant, since with a bit of footwork you can send virgin rr12 heavy tanks running back to their keeps.

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haste doesnt mean squat if you can't land the hits

Come at me virgin friars.

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You were already sent running by Alexandriite.

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carnesaur posted:

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riiiight the friar that never dies. what ever helps ya sleep at night junior.

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Vegamitex posted:

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DarkPCK posted:

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SaiyanOfDarkness posted:

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Where is the mezz dampening spell for Midgard???????? ffs

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3-4 demezzers in a group, at least 1-2 of which will have QC + Concentration. Not that you 8v8 or anything~

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didnt know healers have quickcast and people run 3-4 of them...

o wait are u tryn to say sm's are a req slot in mid grps? lol~

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DarkPCK posted:

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SaiyanOfDarkness posted:

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Where is the mezz dampening spell for Midgard???????? ffs

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3-4 demezzers in a group, at least 1-2 of which will have QC + Concentration. Not that you 8v8 or anything~

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carnesaur posted:

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Eaderbreca posted:

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[quote=carnesaur][quote=Eaderbreca]

Haste shout now co-exists with self haste, which provides 30 sec burst dps. Coupled with rear snare it makes Friars perfectly whine. Low dex/ws complaint is irrelevant, since with a bit of footwork you can send virgin rr12 heavy tanks running back to their keeps.

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haste doesnt mean squat if you can't land the hits

Come at me virgin friars.

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You were already sent running by Alexandriite.

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DarkPCK posted:

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Not that you 8v8 or anything~

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SaiyanOfDarkness posted:

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DarkPCK posted:

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SaiyanOfDarkness posted:

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Where is the mezz dampening spell for Midgard???????? ffs

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3-4 demezzers in a group, at least 1-2 of which will have QC + Concentration. Not that you 8v8 or anything~

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requoted PA

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SaiyanOfDarkness posted:

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DarkPCK posted:

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Not that you 8v8 or anything~

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And yes I do run with 8.. around 11 pm EST to 5 am EST. Sorry I don't play during the day?

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-Enkill- posted:

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Magnification d**k? Yeah, I'm sure it does require a magnifier

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DarkPCK posted:

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SaiyanOfDarkness posted:

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DarkPCK posted:

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Not that you 8v8 or anything~

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And yes I do run with 8.. around 11 pm EST to 5 am EST. Sorry I don't play during the day?

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"8v8" doesn't mean "full group running around mainlands being black."

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Lakobaath posted:

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Assassin nerf ftw

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phise posted:

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I don't think there's anything Mythic could do to get me to come back.

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DarkPCK posted:

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SaiyanOfDarkness posted:

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DarkPCK posted:

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Not that you 8v8 or anything~

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And yes I do run with 8.. around 11 pm EST to 5 am EST. Sorry I don't play during the day?

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"8v8" doesn't mean "full group running around mainlands being black."

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SaiyanOfDarkness posted:

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DarkPCK posted:

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SaiyanOfDarkness posted:

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[quote=DarkPCK]Not that you 8v8 or anything~

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And yes I do run with 8.. around 11 pm EST to 5 am EST. Sorry I don't play during the day?

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"8v8" doesn't mean "full group running around mainlands being black."

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Vegamitex posted:

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how do u define 8v8? is it not 8 players runnin around lookin to fight 8 other players?

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Devaster-S- posted:

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SaiyanOfDarkness posted:

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DarkPCK posted:

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[quote=SaiyanOfDarkness][quote=DarkPCK]Not that you 8v8 or anything~

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And yes I do run with 8.. around 11 pm EST to 5 am EST. Sorry I don't play during the day?

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"8v8" doesn't mean "full group running around mainlands being black."

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Vegamitex posted:

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not tryn to defend psychopathic, after all he is trash that just /sticks to clumsy or xyorman


but tryn to bottleneck what 8v8 is dumb

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