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I'm concerned about a trend I see going on. PC/Korial is sitting in cg advertising Free Casino and Mana Forge pulls... which might be kind of funny if it weren't for the fact that people are actually showing up and taking him up on his offer(s).

Now, we all know that through the years, this tool has rolled over so many stolen items into a fairly large 'bank roll', be it keys or MMD's, or Epics, whatever. It's fair to say, and he admits freely, that he does not own a single legitimate item in AC. Everything he has, he has either stolen, or gotten from using a stolen item.

I'm not here to name names, although I could, because the people that apparently showed up not only used their recognizable toons, but actually THANKED him in open chat, and also started advertising their pull items on trade chat... pretty amazing.

Now, as for me, I don't have to think twice about accepting a 'free' item from a thief. It's receiving stolen property, or profiting from the proceeds of stolen items. There's no ignorance here, the people there KNEW who he was and what he does, and for any that didn't, he told them BEFORE he gave them their free stuff. He admitted on cg that he immensely enjoyed them taking his 'free' stolen items, and therefore passively participating in his mental illness. The people involved are looking the other way as to what they're involving themselves in, because people are greedy by nature, but what they really don't realize is that they are empowering him to continue stealing...

What about you? Would you take free pulls from this guy? What do you think of people who do? If you saw someone in your allegiance hanging around and accepting free items from Korial, what would you do? Anything? If you're a Monarch, do you boot anyone for participating in these giveaways? I'm just curious... discuss.

 

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you sound mad.

 

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I would not piss on the fire that was burning him to put it out. The guy is a POS and trash. Sadly there are a lot of people that have NO PROBLEM being associated or even dealing with the looser. Screw him the game would be much better off without his lame ass but Turbine for some reason will not ban his IP.

 

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I sound mad? What do you sound like? This has what to do with the topic?

 

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/popcorn

 

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KhaanVrenn posted:
What about you? Would you take free pulls from this guy?


No. In point of fact, I was distracted with something else one night and answered a "trivia question" of his in /cg. I flatly refused to collect the proffered prize, as a matter of principle.

Lawful Evil can stand on principle every bit as easily as Lawful Good. Some people forget that. tongue

KhaanVrenn posted:
What do you think of people who do?


That they're either lazy, overly opportunistic, or simply don't know any better, depending upon the person in question.

KhaanVrenn posted:
If you saw someone in your allegiance hanging around and accepting free items from Korial, what would you do? Anything?


Well, it would depend on whether or not they knew. If it was some person who has been back to the game for all of three days and has no idea who Korialstrasz/Player Character is, I'd tell them. If they already knew and were doing it anyway... well frankly, I'd be disappointed with the person.

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If you're a Monarch, do you boot anyone for participating in these giveaways? I'm just curious... discuss.


I'm an officer, not a Monarch. As to whether the participant was given a stern talking-to or ultimately booted, that would be up to Gones. As you can see from his post though, he has no patience whatsoever for Korial or his doings.

Speaking purely for myself though, I will say this -- Money really isn't hard to come by in this game, if you're willing to work for it. There is no point, purpose, or sense in stealing, beyond laziness, stupidity, and/or getting a sick thrill from taking advantage of other people. There's really no sense in abetting it either, at least imo.

 

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I just execute my followers irl when people tell me they were bad ig.

 

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I just execute my followers irl when people tell me they were bad ig.


Anyone seen Lilly or Kuldar being bad ig? Gimme something, anything.

 

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^ this guy is trying to say he has bitches to smack up

 

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^ good point bhutt

 

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^ is he talking to himself?

 

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^ typing, moron.

 

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Bhutthed posted:
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^ is he talking to himself?


^ typing, moron.




I'm nuts! mischief

 

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Hazel-wudi posted:
I'm nuts! mischief


And apparently, I'm also contagious! devil

 

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hahaha

 

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Queen of the edits. Christ.

 

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Often!

Edit : 20 flagged.

Edit: 8 through bellas.

Edit: 12 to go.

Edit: Whee! tongue

Edit: Done! Woot!

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This thread is extremely unnecessary.

Also evidence that supports the reason this guy bamboozles so many people is because people are fracking stupid.

 

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"RexRectalton" lmao laugh


 

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nerd

 

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Zeiss is ingame. Mind = officially blown.

 

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This thread is extremely unnecessary.

Also evidence that supports the reason this guy bamboozles so many people is because people are fracking stupid.


Lol @ the name RexRectalton. laugh

As for the rest of it... suppose someone leaves their doors unlocked with their keys in the ignition, and someone steals their car. Yes, that was definitely a dumb move on their part. However, that doesn't absolve the thief of the crime, or make stealing an ok thing to do.

 

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When I first came back to the game, Player Character got me for 3 golden casino key rings... If they throw up that they are offering free pulls... Im taking them. Just saying.

 

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I've heard that from other people as well. "He ripped me off once, so if he's giving stuff away, I'm taking it." lol. tongue

 

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meh , a free casino key? ill take it lol

 

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I don't participate in his trivia or take him up on the offer of free things. He's never managed to cheat me, but i know he does it, and I won't take what should have been someone else's. I'm sure he gets a kick out of people being obliged to him (whether they think they are or not, subconsciously they know they are) but i won't ever owe him anything.

 

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Hazel-wudi posted:
RexRectalton posted:
This thread is extremely unnecessary.

Also evidence that supports the reason this guy bamboozles so many people is because people are fracking stupid.


Lol @ the name RexRectalton. laugh

As for the rest of it... suppose someone leaves their doors unlocked with their keys in the ignition, and someone steals their car. Yes, that was definitely a dumb move on their part. However, that doesn't absolve the thief of the crime, or make stealing an ok thing to do.



I never condoned stealing, but these are the type of threads that Korialstrasz lives for. It's stupid to feed him and people are stupid.

 

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Honestly, I'd rather run the risk of feeding him than to allow him to operate under a veil of secrecy, especially with so many people from other servers trading casino keys/coins here, and the glut of recently returned players who have no idea who he is or what he does. *shrugs*

 

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Honestly, I'd rather run the risk of feeding him than to allow him to operate under a veil of secrecy, especially with so many people from other servers trading casino keys/coins here, and the glut of recently returned players who have no idea who he is or what he does. *shrugs*


Thanks El, figured a few would get it, others wouldn't... information is power both ways. I'm damned if I do, damned if I don't. There definitely is 'his' veil of secrecy, but there is also the veil of 'free stuff, I'll act blind as to the source' that his customers are using to dignify their association. I learned a long time ago that you can't please everyone, and I realized a thread with this subject matter was going to fall square into that category. There is no way to spread the information than to just spread the information. I was very disturbed with the names that were accepting his gifts, and what Monarchies they were from. These were not new or returning players. You learn a lot about people when something is dangled under their nose.

 

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KhaanVrenn posted:
Thanks El, figured a few would get it, others wouldn't... information is power both ways.


Aye. Always has been, and always will be. mischief

KhaanVrenn posted:
I'm damned if I do, damned if I don't.


This would seem to be the way of the world, just in general. C'est la merde. frustrated

KhaanVrenn posted:
There definitely is 'his' veil of secrecy, but there is also the veil of 'free stuff, I'll act blind as to the source' that his customers are using to dignify their association. I learned a long time ago that you can't please everyone, and I realized a thread with this subject matter was going to fall square into that category. There is no way to spread the information than to just spread the information. I was very disturbed with the names that were accepting his gifts, and what Monarchies they were from. These were not new or returning players. You learn a lot about people when something is dangled under their nose.


In a very real way, mmos are one gigantic social and psychological experiment. What do people do, when most of the meaningful consequences for negative behavior are removed? How do they act, when motivated by their own internal views, goals, priorities, and values, and by nothing else? What happens when you largely remove fear of punishment from the equation?

What are people like, really? What is the true nature of man, irrespective of external coercion?

Over the past couple months, I've fallen out of the habit of running my logs when I get home from work. Clearly, I'm going to have to start doing that again.

 

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Does this retard still talk to himself in /cg?

 

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Does this retard still talk to himself in /cg?

Retards take offense [being compared to him].




Anyone else take this thread 100% surrrrrrrusly?

 

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blinds_soul posted:
Kuldar_Moritan posted:
Does this retard still talk to himself in /cg?

Retards take offense [being compared to him].




Anyone else take this thread 100% surrrrrrrusly?


I'm super serial!

 

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I don't understand how you all fall for this guy? I've done plenty of cross server trades in my day. He has tried to scam me multiple times and I've figured it out each time. Why not just play smarter? <3

 

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