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"When you see that trading is done, not by consent, but by compulsion--when you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing--when you see money flowing to those who deal, not in goods, but in favors--when you see that men get richer by graft and pull than by hard work, and your laws don't protect you against them, but protect them against you--when you see corruption being rewarded and honesty becoming a self sacrifice--you may know that your society is doomed." -Ayn Rand
Yeah, she sure was crazy alright.
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Man, looks like the pages in your "Atlas Shrugged" stick together.
That's just nasty!
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You mad bro?
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Corruption in the government is one of those things everyone knows happens daily but is refused to be acknowledged
Instead we bicker about homicide cases and who said what in what context
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I've never had a conversation with an Ayn Rand critic who didn't sound like he was reading from a script.
I don't know a single thing about Karl Marx's personal life because his critics always focus on the nonsense of his philosophy and economics. I know tons of nasty little details of Ayn Rand's personal life because every single one of her critics tries to tell me about them.
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That's funny, I don't know a thing about Ayn Rand other than she was a [mod] author with a loony straw-man philosophy.
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She was upset because her social security check was late.
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She was upset because even her sister thought she's nut
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So she cynically described every civilization and every nation that ever existed, from it's outset to it's downfall....and you think that this is an accurate prediction of your nations current situation?
You are as bad with Rand as fundies are with the bible and always talking about "the end times" and "it's exactly what the bible said would happen".
Just a hint for you, people have been saying that about the bible for about oh...1900 years now.
I'm sure some "true believer" of "the glorious prophet and super duper thinker Ayn Rand" will be saying that about whatever country they happen to be living in a couple of hundred years from now.
It's sickness btw, you can get help for it.
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Your stamp of approval for the status quo is noted.
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Altra_Shadowstalker posted:
That's funny, I don't know a thing about Ayn Rand other than she was a shitty author with a loony straw-man philosophy.
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It's not a stamp of approval, it's a scathing, sarcastic retort against your idiocy that in no way implies approval of anything your diseased mind might be raving about.
Get some help man.
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You mad bro?
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Ayn Rand's philosophy is an overreaction to her dad getting pwned in the Russian Revolution. 
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I don't know a single person outside the Internetz who even heard about her.
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Never read her stuff.
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I've never heard of her before I came here. It seems the most people affected by her are LWNs.
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NuEM posted:
I don't know a single person outside the Internetz who even heard about her.
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I've never heard of her before I came here. It seems the most people affected by her are LWNs.
If you ever want to get one to melt down, just mention how you just finished Atlas Shrugged and what an awesome book it was. You'll get a lot of free entertainment value out of it.
The book is a lot longer than it needs to be, but she has a lot of specific examples that could be taken directly from today's headlines.
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...or the headlines from 500 years ago, or 1000 years ago.
It's not that people read the book that is so funny, it's that they then go on about it's "revelations" and "how precise she was in her predictions", blather, blather, blather.
It's a religion to some people, a religion based upon nonsense and stupidity that inspires it's adherents to be willfully stupid and quote nonsense as if it had some deep meaning....so yeah, I take every opportunity to point out how stupid the people that fall for the crap are.
It's never a meltdown though, it's always with fits of laughter that I do so. Be assured, if you ever spout anything Randian....I'm laughing at your stupid ass. 
It's like being one of those crazy Scientology nuts and you are jumping on a couch on Oprah telling the world that they are all insane while making a total ass out of yourself, just too much fun to ignore.
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Sansfear posted:
Tych2 posted:
I've never heard of her before I came here. It seems the most people affected by her are LWNs.
If you ever want to get one to melt down, just mention how you just finished Atlas Shrugged and what an awesome book it was. You'll get a lot of free entertainment value out of it.
The book is a lot longer than it needs to be, but she has a lot of specific examples that could be taken directly from today's headlines.
The problem is that she takes those examples and misapplies philosophy to them, sounding nutty in the process. You can take a selected quote that makes her sound profound (like Aerglebargle did), but in context of the rest of her book, or even the same page, it's loopy.
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Tych2 posted:
I've never heard of her before I came here. It seems the most people affected by her are LWNs.
That line doesn't really play. Anyone who has gone to a college worth half a spit should know about Rand and Atlas Shrugged as a 'contrararian' point of view, a view taken by some, or as a fallacy to be viciously picked apart. Depending on the slant of your particular college.
Otherwise, your college just pretty much sucked.
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Tych2 posted:
I've never heard of her before I came here. It seems the most people affected by her are LWNs.
LWNs are obsessed with her. They foam at the mouth and accuse anyone one who doesn't spit on her book of being a "Rand bot".
I think they spend about 10 times as much time thinking about her as these "Rand bots".
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Didn't read the thread but I'm pretty sure Ayn Rand has at least two nuts.
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Didn't read the thread but I'm pretty sure Ayn Rand has at least two nuts.
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Abaddon_Ambrosius posted:
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I've never heard of her before I came here. It seems the most people affected by her are LWNs.
That line doesn't really play. Anyone who has gone to a college worth half a spit should know about Rand and Atlas Shrugged as a 'contrararian' point of view, a view taken by some, or as a fallacy to be viciously picked apart. Depending on the slant of your particular college.
Otherwise, your college just pretty much sucked.
 I forgot you are an expert on all things! I might have heard of her in college. That was in 1982-1986. I am pretty sure that I would have not given her a second thought if I did after I read whatever about her. I hardly think UMASS sucks, but again I forgot you are an expert on all things.
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Abaddon_Ambrosius posted:
Tych2 posted:
I've never heard of her before I came here. It seems the most people affected by her are LWNs.
That line doesn't really play. Anyone who has gone to a college worth half a spit should know about Rand and Atlas Shrugged as a 'contrararian' point of view, a view taken by some, or as a fallacy to be viciously picked apart. Depending on the slant of your particular college.
Otherwise, your college just pretty much sucked.
Ayn Rand is not a serious academic subject.
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AzureTyger posted:
Ayn Rand is not a serious academic subject.
By that standard, neither are Critical Race Theory or the Mythology of Harry Potter. Yet...
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Rand was quite popular among a subset of students when I was in college, mostly the women seeking empowerment thru feminism, veganism and unshaven legs segment who believed they had discovered hidden truths through her writing.
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Tych2 posted:
I hardly think UMASS sucks,
You screwed up the punctuation there. Let me fix it for you.
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I hardly think. UMASS sucks.
There ya go.
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Yeah Ayn Rand or objectivism is not a serious topic in college.
Most good colleges try and make non history courses about the subject matter and not the names involved. For example if you studied economics you either studied Marx or you went to a bad school. Rand is not even remotely serious as an economist and her contribution is just a retread pop philosophy.
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Yeah it seems like there are a lot of better people to study if you want to get a libertarian economic argument. I think it would be doing a disservice to the philosophy to pick Ayn Rand as its proponent. Sort of like a version of the straw man fallacy. Or using Al Gore to argue against man made global warming.
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paulg_68 posted:
Tych2 posted:
I hardly think UMASS sucks,
You screwed up the punctuation there. Let me fix it for you.
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I hardly think. UMASS sucks.
There ya go.
 Really?
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