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It would be like Nazi Germany winning World War Part 2!
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... or like Santorum winning in 2012. 
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http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0389828/
They made a "documentary" about it.
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I think the best treatment was in Harry Turtledove's Southern Victory series. The Confederacy was far more prosperous than it became in our timeline, whereas the USA became less prosperous, less confident and much more regimented and bureacratic. The USA took the side of Germany in the first world war to get revenge on the British and French for supporting the South.
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The south should have freed the slaves and then declared succession. Without the moral high ground support for the war would have collapsed entirely in the north.
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They wanted to keep their slaves and that is why they went to war and tried to seceed.
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Well a large portion of the north's push for war was the business owners that couldn't compete against the prices of goods from the south.
While a large portion of southerners knew slavery was wrong, they continued on with it.
The reality is that there were large numbers of people that disliked slavery and those that didn't care, in both the north and the south.
This just makes Lincoln's accomplishments more amazing in my eyes.
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The South will rise again!
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The Civil War was not about slavery, it was about states rights.
Slavery was a part of that issue but the issue was larger than just slavery.
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It was about states rights to own slaves
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Slavery would have died anyways, we would have just had to wait. That and avoid the bloodiest period in American history.
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The South seceded over slavery. That is undeniable.
The North had no reason to go to war over slavery though. It was legal when the war began, and even towards the end the emaciation proclamation only applied to the rebelling states.
There were also slave states that fought for the North.
The war was fought over state's rights. Specifically if a state had the right to leave the union.
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ok, here's a trivia question:
How long was the civil war fought before Lincoln issued his Emancipation Proclamation?
Does this time frame support the theory that it was about slaves?
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The war was over slavery.
The south started the war, they initiated the war, and they got what was coming to them.
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Remnant_OBrien posted:
The war was over slavery.
The south started the war. The north won it.
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Moe_Nox posted:
The south should have freed the slaves and then declared succession. Without the moral high ground support for the war would have collapsed entirely in the north.
The south wouldn't have wanted to secede if slavery didn't exist.
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armoredgimp posted:
The Civil War was not about slavery, it was about states rights.
Slavery was a part of that issue but the issue was larger than just slavery.
No it was about slavery. There wouldn't have been a war if the south hadn't decided it wanted one, and states right was just a rhetorical football. The root issue was the south's attachment to a slave society.
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The South fought the Civil War over slavery. The NOrth didnt. Lincoln while he personally didnt like slavery wanted to stop the spread of slave states but not outlaw slavery and he hoped slavery would slowly die out over time like it did in the North
Lincoln fought the Civil War to keep the country together. He wanted to enoble the cause but he couldnt do it until the NOrth had a major victory. And because of the poor generals in the north that took a very long time. Once they had their victory Lincoln announced that proclamation.
THis is a fact
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Bonzoboy1 posted:
Slavery would have died anyways, we would have just had to wait. That and avoid the bloodiest period in American history.
No it wouldn't have. Slavery became more entrenched in the 30 years preceding the war not less. Slave labor would have worked just as well with industry with a few minor changes. Also the south chose to start that bloodiest period in American history. They embraced it.
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Allstarslacker posted:
The South seceded over slavery. That is undeniable.
The North had no reason to go to war over slavery though. It was legal when the war began, and even towards the end the emaciation proclamation only applied to the rebelling states.
There were also slave states that fought for the North.
The war was fought over state's rights. Specifically if a state had the right to leave the union.
I don't accept that. The south initiated the war by firing on federal property. The war was over slavery. But that wasn't why the north fought.
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Slavery wasn't going anywhere anytime soon if the South hadn't been forced to give it up.
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Lincoln was provoking the South in regards to Ft. Sumter. He wanted it to be attacked to give them an excuse to attack the Confederates. Sumter had no causalities and the conflict happened very quickly, it was all for more of a demonstration of whether or not the South would force them to leave since the commander of that Fort refused to evacuate without there being a shot. There was an ultimatum to evacuate it because the Fort itself was surrounded by Confederate Forts, which became the assumption that Sumter was in their territory (since it was after all... in South Carolina...a state that had already seceded and recognized the military fort as not their own). It could be said the conflicts following Ft. Sumter were what really started the Civil War
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