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Dems should be taking notes since passing a budget seems to be beyond their ability.
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Perhaps I missed it but I'd like to see a break down in cuts and contrasted to all money spent on foreign adventures and ventures. And does it really cut or just reduce increases...?
I know the bill is DOA under current circumstances but I want to know if it actually would be effective if by some miracle passed.
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No cuts to the military? lol
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Dems should be taking notes since passing a budget seems to be beyond their ability.
The fact that any representative thinks that budget is a good idea is a sign of the end times. It is beyond horrible. It is not about addressing the deficit or helping the economy or anything but blind cuts that will impact the elderly and poor while giving tax cuts to those who don't need them. The Democrats have problems of their own but this budget is insane.
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Another waste of time. Political grandstanding. Sigh
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Let's see....
Destroy medicare
Spend trillions of dollars collected from social security taxes on the military while cutting social security benefits
Enormous tax cuts for millionaires and billionaires
Tax increases for the poor
Cuts social programs
Spends trillions more on "security" and "defense"
No information about where the extra income they claim it will generate actually comes from
....in short, typical big government Republican nonsense.
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Let's see....
Destroy medicare
Spend trillions of dollars collected from social security taxes on the military while cutting social security benefits
Enormous tax cuts for millionaires and billionaires
Tax increases for the poor
Cuts social programs
Spends trillions more on "security" and "defense"
No information about where the extra income they claim it will generate actually comes from
....in short, typical big government Republican nonsense.
At least they have a proposal that passed. 
Every democrat voted against Obama's budget.
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Dems should be taking notes since passing a budget seems to be beyond their ability.
Was this before or after they voted to keep the $24 billion in welfare money for record profiting big oil???
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Instead, it would collapse the current six income tax rates into just two, with a top rate of 25 percent - well below the current 35 percent ceiling - while erasing tax deductions and other breaks that the GOP plan failed to specify.
LOL
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The United States will have the highest corporate tax rate in the world after Japan's rates drop on Sunday. 
http://washingtonexaminer.com/politics/washington-secrets/2012/03/we%E2%80%99re-no-1-highest-corporate-taxes/424571
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What's that got to do with the plan to cut taxes on rich people by 10%?
P.S. Most liberals here actually agree with a cut to the corporate income tax rate.
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The GOP House budget is courageous.
The war on poor people is one that we can win if we stand strong.
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while erasing tax deductions and other breaks that the GOP plan failed to specify.
You're right to mistrust them over this because they are probably being deceitful. However it should be noted that even if they truly planned to eliminate every deduction they would still refuse to specify which ones at this point. They either have to get some Democrats on board or they have to wait until after the elections before they get specific. Otherwise it's political suicide.
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You're right to mistrust them over this because they are probably being deceitful. However it should be noted that even if they truly planned to eliminate every deduction they would still refuse to specify which ones at this point. They either have to get some Democrats on board or they have to wait until after the elections before they get specific. Otherwise it's political suicide.
So basically Republicans passed a budget where they don't tell you how they're actually going to change things and that shows why they are the more responsible political party more interested in cutting our deficit! 
P.S. Without these details the republican budget enlarges our deficit much, much more than Obama's plan does.
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The Republican plan to increase the cost of Medicare while pushing those increased costs onto enrollees is the only way to win the future. More expensive healthcare is the key to long term success. Plus its courageous.
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You're right to mistrust them over this because they are probably being deceitful.
So basically Republicans passed a budget where they don't tell you how they're actually going to change things and that shows why they are the more responsible political party more interested in cutting our deficit!
Reading comprehension, you lack it.
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paulg_68 posted:
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paulg_68 posted:
You're right to mistrust them over this because they are probably being deceitful.
So basically Republicans passed a budget where they don't tell you how they're actually going to change things and that shows why they are the more responsible political party more interested in cutting our deficit!
Reading comprehension, you lack it.
I was talking about Bjorvald's argument in light of your comments.
Don't take everything so personally brah!
The Republicans' budget as it is written raises deficits much more than Obama's plan. This is proof Republicans are serious about deficit reduction and are courageous for passing a budget that raises the deficit much more in order to do it!
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It increases deficits in the short term and only balances the budget in 2040 if its generous estimates of economic growth come true.
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Don't forget that they added the repeal of the Affordable Care Act in their budget as well. 
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It increases deficits in the short term and only balances the budget in 2040 if its generous estimates of economic growth come true.
Why would anyone vote against a bill that will bring us massive economic growth?
dummies
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The Laffer Curve is real! So what if we have no clue which area of the curve we are at.
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Dems should be taking notes since passing a budget seems to be beyond their ability.
They don't need to take notes on how to write a crappy, disengenuous budget that only the most severe partisan would like.
They're already just as good as the Reps at doing that.
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Don't forget that they added the repeal of the Affordable Care Act in their budget as well.
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I think the Supreme Court is going to do that for them.
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It is wildly improbable that the US gov't will ever function within the scope of a budget given the proclivities of out elected officials and the nature of a two party system.
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Dems should be taking notes since passing a budget seems to be beyond their ability.
Seriously, you're an idiot.
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Let's see....
Destroy medicare
Spend trillions of dollars collected from social security taxes on the military while cutting social security benefits
Enormous tax cuts for millionaires and billionaires
Tax increases for the poor
Cuts social programs
Spends trillions more on "security" and "defense"
No information about where the extra income they claim it will generate actually comes from
....in short, typical big government Republican nonsense.
At least they have a proposal that passed.
Every democrat voted against Obama's budget.
Its not the god awful budget that matters, its the principle that counts!
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Yukishiro1 posted:
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while erasing tax deductions and other breaks that the GOP plan failed to specify.
You're right to mistrust them over this because they are probably being deceitful. However it should be noted that even if they truly planned to eliminate every deduction they would still refuse to specify which ones at this point. They either have to get some Democrats on board or they have to wait until after the elections before they get specific. Otherwise it's political suicide.
What would your thoughts be on a compromise where the Dems agree to the 25% top rate ceiling while raising capital gains up to 25%? Viable plan or non starter?
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This budget gives the pentagon more money than it asked for. When questioned about it, its author, Paul Ryan, said the Pentagon was lying about how much money it needed. The Pentagon responds...
Gen. Dempsey, the military’s top officer, took sharp exception to the chairman’s comments.
“There’s a difference between having someone say they don’t believe what you said versus … calling us, collectively, liars,†Gen. Dempsey told reporters aboard a U.S. military aircraft after a four day visit to Latin America. â€My response is: I stand by my testimony. This was very much a strategy-driven process to which we mapped the budget.â€
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Ryan is a joke.
Under Bush he argued that we must pass massive tax cuts or the government with all its extra cash from Clinton's balanced budget might start buying up private business.
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Ryan is a complete moron. It is really pretty sad he is considered the GOP's great economic light.
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