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http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-0329-missing-fuel-20120329,0,4343710.story
Despite a concerted effort at Los Angeles City Hall to track the use of taxpayer-purchased fuel, more than $7 million in gasoline and other fuel has gone missing in recent years, according to an audit to be released Thursday.
At dozens of city fueling sites, millions of gallons of fuel was pumped without any record of where it went, the audit showed. City Controller Wendy Greuel, whose office conducted the investigations, said some of the unaccounted-for gasoline may have been used for personal vehicles.
The unexplained transactions occurred despite a $12-million fuel tracking system the city put in place more than a decade ago. Most departments don't effectively use the system to monitor employees, Greuel said, a situation that she said is "indicative of the failures that are plaguing the city."
"This would just not be acceptable in the private sector or any other place," said Greuel, who is running for mayor.
At 22 Los Angeles Police Department fueling sites, an override button meant for emergencies was used to pump $3.9 million in gas.
I bet this sort of theft goes on in most government agencies at every level. I would hope a good number of people are going to be fired over this but at least they will have their union fight for them and against the taxpayers.
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The idea that similar things don't happen in the private sector is rather funny. Just about every small business owner has only "company cars," even though everyone knows they arn't. I'm sure millions of business owners or people with corporate expense accounts also bill personal fuel expenses as corporate expenses.
The part that is typical of government agencies is they have a fancy $12 million system to track fuel purchases but don't actually use it right.
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My drivers have AMEX business cards, they have been misused once and that driver was fired the next day, I can't abide thieves. I believe the private sector does a better job of tracking this type of thing because at some level someone has a financial stake and is certainly not going to let the theft reach anywhere near the level of $7 million.
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Yukishiro1 posted:
The idea that similar things don't happen in the private sector is rather funny. Just about every small business owner has only "company cars," even though everyone knows they arn't. I'm sure millions of business owners or people with corporate expense accounts also bill personal fuel expenses as corporate expenses.
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The private sector isn't losing my money if they let their employees steal.
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Just about every small business owner has only "company cars," even though everyone knows they arn't. I'm sure millions of business owners or people with corporate expense accounts also bill personal fuel expenses as corporate expenses.
Such perks are perfectly legal, I could give my employees perks for almost any reason as long as I don't try to hide it. I included a car when I stole my maintenance supervisor from another company and he gets a $100 gas allowance a week.
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Bonzoboy1 posted:
I believe the private sector does a better job of tracking this type of thing because at some level someone has a financial stake
This is true at one level. It isn't true for the business owner who is fraudulently billing non-work related fuel as work-related. They have a financial stake in cheating. 
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Bonzoboy1 posted:
Yukishiro1 posted:
Just about every small business owner has only "company cars," even though everyone knows they arn't. I'm sure millions of business owners or people with corporate expense accounts also bill personal fuel expenses as corporate expenses.
Such perks are perfectly legal, I could give my employees perks for almost any reason as long as I don't try to hide it. I included a car when I stole my maintenance supervisor from another company and he gets a $100 gas allowance a week.
I was talking about the small business owner who has a "company car" themselves they also use for personal business, who lists their gas as a corporate expense even when it isn't. Or who names their wife a "director" to make her car tax deductable, even though she doesn't do anything in practice. Didn't you admit at some point you do this yourself? Or maybe it was someone else on the Outpost whose name starts with B. You know there are millions of Americans who do similar things.
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The navy is pretty good at tracking fuel bought with govt. credit cards. Generally the guy who gets the bill will see when the gas was purchased, look who had the card and then it's pretty much over from there.
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I was talking about the small business owner who has a "company car" themselves they also use for personal business, who lists their gas as a corporate expense even when it isn't. Or who names their wife a "director" to make her car tax deductable, even though she doesn't do anything in practice. Didn't you admit at some point you do this yourself? Or maybe it was someone else on the Outpost whose name starts with B. You know there are millions of Americans who do similar things.
Actually my wife does the books for the company so she is an employee who does a job and gets compensated. I have been audited and all our expenses have been cleared but it is nice that you are worried about me. 
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