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Topic: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)

_sooz_ Posts: 15,882 Registered: Dec 4, '04 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 15,699 User ID: 1,001,625	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	Saw my shrink today and she told me she's been doing some research on my behalf. She has found a possible way for me to apply for and potentially claim disability benefits. She doesnt understand that i really dont want to. My reason is: This is not a system i have paid into. If i'd lived here up until the point where i had to give up work, and paid taxes until that point, yes i would apply. I havent and therefore dont want to. I have no interest whatsoever in taking money i havent earned. All she can see, though, is that im refusing financial help. So im wondering, am i being an idiot, or do i actually have a valid point? -----signature----- Wolfz All the world will be your enemy, Prince of a Thousand enemies. And when they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you.
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-Foxy- Title: Moderator Ãœber Brat Posts: 110,094 Registered: May 29, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 107,357 User ID: 683,944	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	help in what? meds? a better shrink? what is being offered here? does the military cover all your costs? is not will this help out? -----signature----- Long suffering vassal to Xarkath, U.P. - Forever and ever
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sliyurs Title: Official VN Stalker Posts: 25,132 Registered: Jan 9, '03 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 25,003 User ID: 757,507	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	You have a valid point from a moral standpoint.....in practice you are being an idiot though. -----signature----- UD http://www.udreams.org http://www.hagrin.com/forums RIP: Jakotsu and LDT
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CulenTrey Posts: 2,468 Registered: Sep 15, '03 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 2,450 User ID: 838,354	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	You see imaginary people... take the money. -----signature----- I saw the best minds of my generation destroyed by madness, starving hysterical naked, dragging themselves through the streets, angelheaded hipsters burning for the ancient heavenly connection to the starry dynamo in the machinery of night.
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Ferrydust Title: Iron Chef Jennifer Posts: 10,588 Registered: Sep 4, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 10,382 User ID: 711,372	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	/flame suit on If you need the help, take it. -----signature----- I, on the other hand, prefer a command-line system 'cause i'm so hardcore /north /north You encounter an [Avatar of the god Set]! /cast sheild sheild spell unavailable /csat shield csat: unknown command [Avatar of Set] beheads [Peasant]
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zthar Posts: 8,741 Registered: Feb 10, '01 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 8,513 User ID: 67,531	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	sliyurs posted: You have a valid point from a moral standpoint.....in practice you are being an idiot though. -----signature----- zthar
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AkagiyamaMissile Title: Lord of the Lactose Intolerant Posts: 41,132 Registered: Apr 22, '03 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 40,523 User ID: 793,759	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	-----signature----- Stupidity is hard to get rid of, but at least I can admit I have a problem -Mithan- Gobble Gobble Mother******! -Thankskilling and off course divers license don't count either this sucks balls.-FD Bring it on like Donkey Kong
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rabbitslayer Posts: 2,547 Registered: Aug 26, '01 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 2,537 User ID: 347,811	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	if you can get it you're crazy not to -----signature----- (none)
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_sooz_ Posts: 15,882 Registered: Dec 4, '04 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 15,699 User ID: 1,001,625	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	-Foxy- posted: help in what? meds? a better shrink? what is being offered here? does the military cover all your costs? is not will this help out? That's exactly how i feel. The military covers my medical costs, so i dont need help there. We get by on Wolfz's wages, even being able to put some away in savings every month, so we're not crying for money. It would be nice to have some extra coming in, there certainly would be more we could do/ buy etc, but i honestly cannot think of a necessity that we are unable to get, and therefore i just cant justify asking for more money. -----signature----- Wolfz All the world will be your enemy, Prince of a Thousand enemies. And when they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you.
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.-Vega-. Posts: 12,423 Registered: Jun 20, '05 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 12,213 User ID: 1,059,842	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	You need to take your heirs into consideration. If your disability holds you back from earning as much as you otherwise could, then perhaps you could take the money with the idea of passing it on to your children or nephews, nieces. -----signature----- Ron Paul 2012
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notmforce2k Posts: 96,434 Registered: Oct 9, '11 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 2,235 User ID: 1,430,866	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	Moral conundrum.. I think your logic is right on, even admirable, and it is up to you whether or not to take the assistance offered. -----signature----- (none)
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aon_mixed Title: Pirate Kitty Posts: 97,492 Registered: Aug 19, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 96,153 User ID: 707,392	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	the fact that she is running the table without your consent means that you signed away your rights on the side, i'd be concerned about HIPAA violations -----signature----- may contain partial nudity
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Hyperimiator Title: Maximus Probus Posts: 55,497 Registered: Jul 20, '01 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 54,624 User ID: 266,347	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	notmforce2k posted: Moral conundrum.. I think your logic is right on, even admirable, and it is up to you whether or not to take the assistance offered. In a way it shows that you are willing to keep trying to overcome it, and even if you can't you haven't really surrendered completely to it yet. Commendable behavior, it is what I would hope that I would do in your shoes, but then again my morals have made my life tougher for me than if I didn't have them, they also made me who I am today and I wouldn't go back and do it any other way even if I could. -----signature----- The Hyperimiator song http://www.wfmu.org/listen.ram?show=1639&starttime=1:40:35 "You are never going to be able to vote for the revolution. Get that hope out of your mind" -Jerry Rubin http://www.youtube.com/user/Hyperimiator#p/u
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_sooz_ Posts: 15,882 Registered: Dec 4, '04 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 15,699 User ID: 1,001,625	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	aon_mixed posted: the fact that she is running the table without your consent means that you signed away your rights on the side, i'd be concerned about HIPAA violations She did some general asking around, mentioned no names, no illnesses. It was literally: i have a patient who is a legal alien, can they claim disability benefits? She hasnt applied for me, and doesnt intend to. She is giving me the information and it's up to me to do what i will with it. She isnt running anything, and i havent signed my rights away. -----signature----- Wolfz All the world will be your enemy, Prince of a Thousand enemies. And when they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you.
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rabbitslayer Posts: 2,547 Registered: Aug 26, '01 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 2,537 User ID: 347,811	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	_sooz_ posted: aon_mixed posted: the fact that she is running the table without your consent means that you signed away your rights on the side, i'd be concerned about HIPAA violations She did some general asking around, mentioned no names, no illnesses. It was literally: i have a patient who is a legal alien, can they claim disability benefits? She hasnt applied for me, and doesnt intend to. She is giving me the information and it's up to me to do what i will with it. She isnt running anything, and i havent signed my rights away. wait!!! you don't want to get on disability because you don't want to be a drain on a country you haven't lived in that long... but you have no problem being an illegal alien that mooches everything? -----signature----- (none)
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_sooz_ Posts: 15,882 Registered: Dec 4, '04 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 15,699 User ID: 1,001,625	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	rabbitslayer posted: _sooz_ posted: aon_mixed posted: the fact that she is running the table without your consent means that you signed away your rights on the side, i'd be concerned about HIPAA violations She did some general asking around, mentioned no names, no illnesses. It was literally: i have a patient who is a legal alien, can they claim disability benefits? She hasnt applied for me, and doesnt intend to. She is giving me the information and it's up to me to do what i will with it. She isnt running anything, and i havent signed my rights away. wait!!! you don't want to get on disability because you don't want to be a drain on a country you haven't lived in that long... but you have no problem being an illegal alien that mooches everything? LEGAL alien, silly i have a green card and everything! -----signature----- Wolfz All the world will be your enemy, Prince of a Thousand enemies. And when they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you.
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TheNinthSeal Posts: 185 Registered: Feb 21, '12 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 185 User ID: 1,438,808	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	_sooz_ posted: rabbitslayer posted: _sooz_ posted: [quote=aon_mixed]the fact that she is running the table without your consent means that you signed away your rights on the side, i'd be concerned about HIPAA violations She did some general asking around, mentioned no names, no illnesses. It was literally: i have a patient who is a legal alien, can they claim disability benefits? She hasnt applied for me, and doesnt intend to. She is giving me the information and it's up to me to do what i will with it. She isnt running anything, and i havent signed my rights away. wait!!! you don't want to get on disability because you don't want to be a drain on a country you haven't lived in that long... but you have no problem being an illegal alien that mooches everything? LEGAL alien, silly i have a green card and everything![/quote] I think its called a greene carde in the UK -----signature----- (none)
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_sooz_ Posts: 15,882 Registered: Dec 4, '04 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 15,699 User ID: 1,001,625	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	TheNinthSeal posted: I think its called a greene carde in the UK Ye Olde Greene Carde, get it right! -----signature----- Wolfz All the world will be your enemy, Prince of a Thousand enemies. And when they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you.
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Fallen_daemon Posts: 54,593 Registered: Jul 28, '01 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 53,783 User ID: 285,476	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	sliyurs posted: You have a valid point from a moral standpoint.....in practice you are being an idiot though. -----signature----- Fight white guilt and injustice by going to a Native American casino and gamble your money away. me pic http://acf.curbjaw.com/armchair.htm Formerly known as :armchair warrior, sysphus, fallen_deamon http://www.facebook.com/help/contact.php?show_form
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rabbitslayer Posts: 2,547 Registered: Aug 26, '01 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 2,537 User ID: 347,811	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	oops, yeah I can't read -----signature----- (none)
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-Foxy- Title: Moderator Ãœber Brat Posts: 110,094 Registered: May 29, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 107,357 User ID: 683,944	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	lol silly man -----signature----- Long suffering vassal to Xarkath, U.P. - Forever and ever
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Gaevren Title: Wat do? Posts: 18,183 Registered: Sep 15, '04 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 17,906 User ID: 967,012	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	I think so many doctors meet people who would just rather mooch of the system or "take a pill" to fix their problems that they are always surprised by the ones who don't feel the need to take the easy way out. My husband was diagnosed with high blood pressure a few months back so right away the doctor prescribed him BP meds. My husband started taking them and shortly after developed a spot in his left eye that he couldn't see through. Freaked him right out because he had no idea wtf was happening to him and didn't connect it to the meds he was taking. His biggest fear in life is going blind, pretty much. I looked up the meds on google and discovered that one of the side effects was "vision issues" (that's not quite how it said it but close enough) so I told him to stop taking them NOW and go see his doc again. (The spot started clearing up within a day of him being off the meds...took about 3 days to go away altogether). When he told his doc about what happened, the doc started talking about other meds he could take, at which point my husband said "Why don't I just exercise more, eat better, and lose a little weight?" (He could stand to lose about 20 lbs). The doctor just blinked at him and then said "That's actually the BEST thing you could possibly do. Do that!" He was just so accustomed to patients who couldn't or wouldn't do anything to fix themselves no matter how much he urged them to that I think he just gave up at some point. So your doctor might not so much think that you should take the money, more than just total surprise that you're not leaping at it like most people would be! listos version: no reason you should go for it if you don't think you should and are doing fine without it -----signature----- There are no automatic doors, just very polite ninjas
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EbonDragon Title: 8bit epileptic Posts: 32,209 Registered: Dec 21, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 31,453 User ID: 751,056	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	Go for it. -----signature----- (none)
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Malrothien Posts: 32,930 Registered: Aug 4, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 31,620 User ID: 703,438	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	I am going to be ridiculously blunt: You should refuse it. Why? You were disabled before you came to this country. It wasn't as if you were working here, fell at work, and became disabled as a result. I would honestly think you were a leeach if you took the disability knowing you've had these conditions for years prior to ever thinking about coming to the US. Just because you're a permanent resident doesn't mean you should be entitled to compensation for your condition that is well established. -----signature----- In the darkest hole, you'd be well advised Not to plan my funeral before the body dies
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deadcactus Posts: 38,266 Registered: Dec 27, '01 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 37,437 User ID: 577,555	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	It's disability not an investment plan or a loto pool at work. It doesn't matter if you paid into it. It's social program to help people in need. If you honestly qualify for it then take it and better your life. The people abusing the system are those who purposefully maintain disability rather than working toward employment... -----signature----- 'member dat? True dat.
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Hawkson Title: I AM AN ASSASSIN (SHH) Posts: 30,565 Registered: Oct 23, '01 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 30,208 User ID: 478,685	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	Malrothien posted: I am going to be ridiculously blunt: You should refuse it. Why? You were disabled before you came to this country. It wasn't as if you were working here, fell at work, and became disabled as a result. I would honestly think you were a leeach if you took the disability knowing you've had these conditions for years prior to ever thinking about coming to the US. Just because you're a permanent resident doesn't mean you should be entitled to compensation for your condition that is well established. I've got to say - I agree. You're on the right track refusing, and should not accept it. You didn't put money in, you don't get to take money out. -----signature----- Hawkson, Esq. Nothing is true, everything is permitted.
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Lothland Posts: 4,405 Registered: Mar 8, '04 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 4,131 User ID: 902,109	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	Sooz is lucky she is even in the country, if it wasn't for Wolfz being in the Military she would have been denied at immigration for her health issues. -----signature----- Everyone who has put me in their sig has had it forceably removed. -Xalaten
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deadcactus Posts: 38,266 Registered: Dec 27, '01 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 37,437 User ID: 577,555	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	Death to sick infants! They never paid into Medicaid! You can listen to the advise of financially mediocre morons who will never have to make the decision or you can just be completely honest and let the system regulate itself. Lying and deception are immoral. Accepting a helping hand is not... -----signature----- 'member dat? True dat.
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_sooz_ Posts: 15,882 Registered: Dec 4, '04 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 15,699 User ID: 1,001,625	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	Lothland posted: Sooz is lucky she is even in the country, if it wasn't for Wolfz being in the Military she would have been denied at immigration for her health issues. Moot point, really, given that if Wolfz wasnt in my life i would have zero interest in living in the US. -----signature----- Wolfz All the world will be your enemy, Prince of a Thousand enemies. And when they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you.
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_sooz_ Posts: 15,882 Registered: Dec 4, '04 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 15,699 User ID: 1,001,625	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	deadcactus posted: Death to sick infants! They never paid into Medicaid! You can listen to the advise of financially mediocre morons who will never have to make the decision or you can just be completely honest and let the system regulate itself. Lying and deception are immoral. Accepting a helping hand is not... The problem is, i dont know when i'll be better. If i had a bum leg that would get better with physio, i would feel ok about temporarily accepting help. But this crap is degenerative and it's only gotten worse as i've got older. Im medicated to the gills and i still hear voices, struggle with apathy and self-care etc. Im scared that if i went on disability, i might never get off it, and to me that is just unacceptable. -----signature----- Wolfz All the world will be your enemy, Prince of a Thousand enemies. And when they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you.
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Lothland Posts: 4,405 Registered: Mar 8, '04 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 4,131 User ID: 902,109	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	_sooz_ posted: Lothland posted: Sooz is lucky she is even in the country, if it wasn't for Wolfz being in the Military she would have been denied at immigration for her health issues. Moot point, really, given that if Wolfz wasnt in my life i would have zero interest in living in the US. Not really moot tbh, because he is military you got in to the country and had it been ANYONE else American (IE you met them but they weren't military) you would not have been able to come here. Trust me I went through the immigration process too. Ultimately it's up to you, I would not consider your mental problems a disability in terms of work given that it was there before immigration but if you did I would check to ensure it was not considered a means tested benefit in some form (ask a lawyer) otherwise Wolfz will just have to pay it right back. EDIT: Mal looked it up, it is a Means Tested benefit, IE you have to wait 5 years from immigration date to get it. -----signature----- Everyone who has put me in their sig has had it forceably removed. -Xalaten
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_sooz_ Posts: 15,882 Registered: Dec 4, '04 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 15,699 User ID: 1,001,625	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	Lothland posted: _sooz_ posted: Lothland posted: Sooz is lucky she is even in the country, if it wasn't for Wolfz being in the Military she would have been denied at immigration for her health issues. Moot point, really, given that if Wolfz wasnt in my life i would have zero interest in living in the US. Not really moot tbh, because he is military you got in to the country and had it been ANYONE else American (IE you met them but they weren't military) you would not have been able to come here. Trust me I went through the immigration process too. Ultimately it's up to you, I would not consider your mental problems a disability in terms of work given that it was there before immigration but if you did I would check to ensure it was not considered a means tested benefit in some form (ask a lawyer) otherwise Wolfz will just have to pay it right back. EDIT: Mal looked it up, it is a Means Tested benefit, IE you have to wait 5 years from immigration date to get it. Well that pretty much answers the question for me, then. One thing, though. It IS a disability in terms of work, as i didnt have a job for 2 years before i came to the US, so it's not like i had a job, was fine and then came to the US and just gave it all up. -----signature----- Wolfz All the world will be your enemy, Prince of a Thousand enemies. And when they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you.
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NonOffensiveName Title: Touching people in special places all day long Posts: 27,882 Registered: Oct 7, '01 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 27,531 User ID: 444,059	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	I would not feel hard at anyone who moved here to better themselves that actually NEEDED the assistance and took it even if they didnt pay into the system very much(or at all). Its the freeloaders who have lived here all their lives and popped out baby after baby(Im including the guys in this too cause they benefit sometimes from children as well) just so they can stay on welfare all their lives that is the problem. It is very commendable for you to not accept the help. Sincere kudos to you! -----signature----- Q: What's an AW? A: A whore that likes attention
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Ferrydust Title: Iron Chef Jennifer Posts: 10,588 Registered: Sep 4, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 10,382 User ID: 711,372	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	How did you and Wolfz meet btw? Was it on ACF? I always wondered that. To the naysayers: A man who serves our country isn't allowed to have his wife draw disability? That's silly. -----signature----- I, on the other hand, prefer a command-line system 'cause i'm so hardcore /north /north You encounter an [Avatar of the god Set]! /cast sheild sheild spell unavailable /csat shield csat: unknown command [Avatar of Set] beheads [Peasant]
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_sooz_ Posts: 15,882 Registered: Dec 4, '04 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 15,699 User ID: 1,001,625	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	Ferrydust posted: How did you and Wolfz meet btw? Was it on ACF? I always wondered that. To the naysayers: A man who serves our country isn't allowed to have his wife draw disability? That's silly. Yeah, we met here. We'd been friends for a while, then he got stationed in England and we hung out a bit and found out we really liked eachother. Once i was clear of my ex we started dating (which was odd because we were also room-mates at the time lol) and the rest, as they say, is history -----signature----- Wolfz All the world will be your enemy, Prince of a Thousand enemies. And when they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you.
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deadcactus Posts: 38,266 Registered: Dec 27, '01 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 37,437 User ID: 577,555	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	So your argument against taking disability is that your disabled? It's up to you, but I've noticed people tend to define moral/right as any choice that has the less fortunate take it in the ass to avoid inconveniencing the more privileged... It's not like this is some loophole or lie that is getting you benefits. Your husbands service gave him the legal right to provide you with citizenship and your citizenship entitled you to a benefit to assist your family in coping with a severe illness. But go ahead and turn it down so idiots who were born in this country with good health can talk to you about what they've earned. Edit: I mean seriously, you're going to take advice from people who think schizophrenia isn't a real disability? Might as well ask your cat if that's the level of insight you want from your advisory team. -----signature----- 'member dat? True dat.
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Lothland Posts: 4,405 Registered: Mar 8, '04 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 4,131 User ID: 902,109	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	Ferrydust posted: How did you and Wolfz meet btw? Was it on ACF? I always wondered that. To the naysayers: A man who serves our country isn't allowed to have his wife draw disability? That's silly. Well that question has already been answered, no he can't because he will then owe the money right back. As for benefit for serving in the military, they get a separate and much faster service (by months and even years) then normal citizens. Their restrictions are also much less then regular (I'm not ragging on Sooz, it's just the way the system works) on who they are able to bring in to the country. They get plenty more benefit then regular citizens. -----signature----- Everyone who has put me in their sig has had it forceably removed. -Xalaten
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NonOffensiveName Title: Touching people in special places all day long Posts: 27,882 Registered: Oct 7, '01 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 27,531 User ID: 444,059	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	Ferrydust posted: How did you and Wolfz meet btw? Was it on ACF? I always wondered that. To the naysayers: A man who serves our country isn't allowed to have his wife draw disability? That's silly. a man who serves his country already gets nearly everything handed to him on a silver platter during and after their service usually along with their families(rightfully so) :P Taking disability when you dont NEED it just seems a bit over the top. Sooz is doing the right thing. -----signature----- Q: What's an AW? A: A whore that likes attention
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Lothland Posts: 4,405 Registered: Mar 8, '04 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 4,131 User ID: 902,109	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	deadcactus posted: So your argument against taking disability is that your disabled? It's up to you, but I've noticed people tend to define moral/right as any choice that has the less fortunate take it in the ass to avoid inconveniencing the more privileged... It's not like this is some loophole or lie that is getting you benefits. Your husbands service gave him the legal right to provide you with citizenship and your citizenship entitled you to a benefit to assist your family in coping with a severe illness. But go ahead and turn it down so idiots who were born in this country with good health can talk to you about what they've earned. Edit: I mean seriously, you're going to take advice from people who think schizophrenia isn't a real disability? Might as well ask your cat if that's the level of insight you want from your advisory team. Ready above DC, she can't right now. It's considered a Means Tested Benefit, as part of immigration the sponsor provides a letter of financial support that for 5 years the person will not take any Means Tested Benefits and if they do the person is then charged the amount and possibly a penalty. -----signature----- Everyone who has put me in their sig has had it forceably removed. -Xalaten
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deadcactus Posts: 38,266 Registered: Dec 27, '01 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 37,437 User ID: 577,555	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	If you're not legally qualified, you're not legally qualified. I still disagree with the notion that it would be "wrong" to accept it if she was qualified... -----signature----- 'member dat? True dat.
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Dark_EternalFF Title: Official ACF Turd Posts: 85,900 Registered: Nov 8, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 84,100 User ID: 736,311	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	deadcactus posted: It's disability not an investment plan or a lotto pool at work. It doesn't matter if you paid into it. It's social program to help people in need. If you honestly qualify for it then take it and better your life. The people abusing the system are those who purposefully maintain disability rather than working toward employment... This, really. -----signature----- Max Fox (AC), Zygran (WoW, SWTOR) "We poison our air and water to weed out the weak! We set off fission bombs in our only biosphere! We nailed our God to a stick! Don't fk with the human race!" DE/Mr Pants 2012
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Lothland Posts: 4,405 Registered: Mar 8, '04 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 4,131 User ID: 902,109	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	deadcactus posted: If you're not legally qualified, you're not legally qualified. I still disagree with the notion that it would be "wrong" to accept it if she was qualified... Technically she is qualified if the doctor is correct, the statement of financial support is separate part where it just states he is on the hook. It's for people that get married, immigrate, and then separate and the person then goes on Welfare or some other social program. The idea is that if you are immigrating due to marriage you better make sure you stay together. -----signature----- Everyone who has put me in their sig has had it forceably removed. -Xalaten
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-Darkfire- Posts: 28,927 Registered: Apr 21, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 27,982 User ID: 670,830	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	aon_mixed posted: the fact that she is running the table without your consent means that you signed away your rights on the side, i'd be concerned about HIPAA violations pretty sure you dont know what hipaa is after this post -----signature----- http://www.hahgay.com/
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_sooz_ Posts: 15,882 Registered: Dec 4, '04 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 15,699 User ID: 1,001,625	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	Lothland posted: deadcactus posted: If you're not legally qualified, you're not legally qualified. I still disagree with the notion that it would be "wrong" to accept it if she was qualified... Technically she is qualified if the doctor is correct, the statement of financial support is separate part where it just states he is on the hook. It's for people that get married, immigrate, and then separate and the person then goes on Welfare or some other social program. The idea is that if you are immigrating due to marriage you better make sure you stay together. People who do that make it SO much freaking harder for those of us who are genuinely together, because people (not to mention immigration!) tend to assume you just got married for a green card. If anything ever happened and Wolfz and i were no longer together i would book it so fast back to England you wouldnt see me for dust. Im not saying that to rag on America, its just not England -----signature----- Wolfz All the world will be your enemy, Prince of a Thousand enemies. And when they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you.
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Lothland Posts: 4,405 Registered: Mar 8, '04 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 4,131 User ID: 902,109	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	_sooz_ posted: Lothland posted: deadcactus posted: If you're not legally qualified, you're not legally qualified. I still disagree with the notion that it would be "wrong" to accept it if she was qualified... Technically she is qualified if the doctor is correct, the statement of financial support is separate part where it just states he is on the hook. It's for people that get married, immigrate, and then separate and the person then goes on Welfare or some other social program. The idea is that if you are immigrating due to marriage you better make sure you stay together. People who do that make it SO much freaking harder for those of us who are genuinely together, because people (not to mention immigration!) tend to assume you just got married for a green card. If anything ever happened and Wolfz and i were no longer together i would book it so fast back to England you wouldnt see me for dust. Im not saying that to rag on America, its just not England Should have seen my "proof", we had even been married for 3 years already and still have to jump through a ton of hoops. -----signature----- Everyone who has put me in their sig has had it forceably removed. -Xalaten
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warflea Title: Resident Mathematician Posts: 6,631 Registered: Aug 22, '01 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 6,370 User ID: 337,314	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	You are not an idiot. No decision could have been more natural or human. If I am ever in such a situation, I would hope to have your conviction. -----signature----- "If you want to build a ship, don't drum up people to collect wood and don't assign them tasks and work, but rather teach them to long for the endless immensity of the sea." -Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
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_sooz_ Posts: 15,882 Registered: Dec 4, '04 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 15,699 User ID: 1,001,625	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	Lothland posted: Should have seen my "proof", we had even been married for 3 years already and still have to jump through a ton of hoops. Oh yeah, we had that too (just because he's military doesnt mean we're exempt from the process). When we sent in my "proof" packet it looked like bloody War and Peace lol. And we are coming up on our 4th anniversary -----signature----- Wolfz All the world will be your enemy, Prince of a Thousand enemies. And when they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you.
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Malrothien Posts: 32,930 Registered: Aug 4, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 31,620 User ID: 703,438	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	_sooz_ posted: Lothland posted: Should have seen my "proof", we had even been married for 3 years already and still have to jump through a ton of hoops. Oh yeah, we had that too (just because he's military doesnt mean we're exempt from the process). When we sent in my "proof" packet it looked like bloody War and Peace lol. And we are coming up on our 4th anniversary We are sixth, and we had already gone through immigration for me to live in Canada. -----signature----- In the darkest hole, you'd be well advised Not to plan my funeral before the body dies
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Rhodoman Posts: 81,876 Registered: Jun 14, '01 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 80,454 User ID: 154,069	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	The only way out is through. Rho -----signature----- Rho is correct. - Varece Venit hiems quidquid Latine dictum sit altum viditur Referring to illegal aliens as 'immigrants' is the same as referring to shoplifters as 'shoppers' - Dorvinion
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GrimTempest Title: Board Manager Anime Aikousha Posts: 37,523 Registered: Dec 21, '01 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 36,478 User ID: 567,005	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	i didn't read all of this so if its already been said sorry for repeating it...but the simple answer is this: Do whichever lets you sleep easier at night. money isn't everything and it can't buy you your self respect back if thats what you'll lose by taking something you don't feel your owed or deserve. -----signature----- MyAnimeList - http://myanimelist.net/profile/Grimtempest - Chaotic Neutral - El Psy Congroo
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-Darkfire- Posts: 28,927 Registered: Apr 21, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 27,982 User ID: 670,830	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	you know what you could do? get a job. but you wont since PA/Trolling -----signature----- http://www.hahgay.com/
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Brandun Posts: 35,276 Registered: Jan 23, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 34,522 User ID: 627,054	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	-Darkfire- posted: you know what you could do? get a job. but you wont since quote PA you know this, right? -----signature----- Everything will be OK in the end If it's not OK, it's not the end http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSFaLUZ2rf4&feature=share
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-Darkfire- Posts: 28,927 Registered: Apr 21, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 27,982 User ID: 670,830	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	why am i crap? a few months ago she was talking about getting a new job, then a few after that she was ready to get off her meds. her posts say it. i don't really understand why you continue to baby her and giving her the attention she thrives off of. -----signature----- http://www.hahgay.com/
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Brandun Posts: 35,276 Registered: Jan 23, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 34,522 User ID: 627,054	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	-Darkfire- posted: why am i crap? a few months ago she was talking about getting a new job, then a few after that she was ready to get off her meds. her posts say it. because you are worthless POS troll -----signature----- Everything will be OK in the end If it's not OK, it's not the end http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSFaLUZ2rf4&feature=share
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-Darkfire- Posts: 28,927 Registered: Apr 21, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 27,982 User ID: 670,830	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	troll is not an interchangeable word. my opinion and personality does not make me a troll. i understand you're likely to be a middle aged, uneducated moron, but try to keep up with common sense. -----signature----- http://www.hahgay.com/
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_sooz_ Posts: 15,882 Registered: Dec 4, '04 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 15,699 User ID: 1,001,625	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	Brandun, while i am grateful to you for defending me, just ignore him. He wants you to respond, that's why he says inflammatory things, because he thrives off upsetting people. If you dont respond, he doesnt get what he wants, eventually he will find another board to try his luck at -----signature----- Wolfz All the world will be your enemy, Prince of a Thousand enemies. And when they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you.
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Brandun Posts: 35,276 Registered: Jan 23, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 34,522 User ID: 627,054	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	you know what you could do? get a job. but you wont since quote without knowing the person at all, this makes you a POS worthless troll c'mon, get with the program -----signature----- Everything will be OK in the end If it's not OK, it's not the end http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSFaLUZ2rf4&feature=share
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-Darkfire- Posts: 28,927 Registered: Apr 21, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 27,982 User ID: 670,830	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	uh you should probably google what the term troll means -----signature----- http://www.hahgay.com/
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Brandun Posts: 35,276 Registered: Jan 23, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 34,522 User ID: 627,054	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	-Darkfire- posted: Hey everyone, PA got it thanks -----signature----- Everything will be OK in the end If it's not OK, it's not the end http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSFaLUZ2rf4&feature=share
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-Darkfire- Posts: 28,927 Registered: Apr 21, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 27,982 User ID: 670,830	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	it's so cute when a middle aged man resorts to name calling. its equally as impressive to see that, in the many years spent living, you cannot come up with a decent argument. -----signature----- http://www.hahgay.com/
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Brandun Posts: 35,276 Registered: Jan 23, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 34,522 User ID: 627,054	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	you know what you could do? get a job. but you wont since quote name calling LOL!! -----signature----- Everything will be OK in the end If it's not OK, it's not the end http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSFaLUZ2rf4&feature=share
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-Darkfire- Posts: 28,927 Registered: Apr 21, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 27,982 User ID: 670,830	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	wow. you win the stupid contest. names and terms aren't the same thing. -----signature----- http://www.hahgay.com/
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Gaevren Title: Wat do? Posts: 18,183 Registered: Sep 15, '04 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 17,906 User ID: 967,012	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	NonOffensiveName posted: a man who serves his country already gets nearly everything handed to him on a silver platter during and after their service usually along with their families(rightfully so) Wow...no...no they don't. They generally get kicked to the curb and have to fight tooth and nail for any of the benefits they were promised while in the service. Support for soldiers and families transitioning out of the military is spotty at best and many people aren't even aware of the services available to them. Jobs are difficult to get for prior service AND their spouses because work history is usually all over the place and/or spotty, due to the military's stationing requirements. It's even worse for soldiers who got out before being in long enough to retire because they have no retirement benefits and their spouses/family won't have any kind of health care. And the prior soldier may not be able to get any kind of VA health care. GI Bill is one of the very few exceptions, and I will admit that it is a VERY nice thing to have. The soldiers do have to pay into it while in the service, however, so it's not entirely "free", but the payout they get is well above what they paid in, so it's absolutely a major bonus. -----signature----- There are no automatic doors, just very polite ninjas
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Brandun Posts: 35,276 Registered: Jan 23, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 34,522 User ID: 627,054	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	-Darkfire- posted: wow. you win the stupid contest. names and terms aren't the same thing. /pat head good night please try again later -----signature----- Everything will be OK in the end If it's not OK, it's not the end http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSFaLUZ2rf4&feature=share
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Anebriated Title: I should be reading a book Posts: 37,996 Registered: Jan 27, '03 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 36,373 User ID: 764,038	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	_sooz_ posted: The problem is, i dont know when i'll be better. All the more reason you should take the help. schizophrenia is a disease of the brain and there is currently no cure. I intern right next to a mental hospital and the number of people who look too sick to even benefit from extra money is astounding. they are just that gone- they would need someone to spend the money on services for them. It's not your fault you are disabled. If it was me I would accept my disability and the money without shame and plan for the future. -----signature----- (none)
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-Ducky- Posts: 19,595 Registered: Jun 1, '01 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 19,341 User ID: 143,553	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	Personally, I'm tired of seeing people or children apply for SSI who are capable of working and haven't paid into the system at all. This is not directly related to you, it's something I see often and honestly it makes me angry. People sign their kid up for SSI because it has Asthma. ASTHMA? Really? Leave it for the people who truly need it. -----signature----- Love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And weâ€™ll change the world. ~ Jack Layton
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Anebriated Title: I should be reading a book Posts: 37,996 Registered: Jan 27, '03 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 36,373 User ID: 764,038	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	-Ducky- posted: People sign their kid up for SSI because it has Asthma. ASTHMA? Really? Leave it for the people who truly need it. depends on the asthma. I don't think you could know if a person truly needed it for asthma by looking at them. this is why the people who decide who truly need it should know about asthma. "Approximately half of persons with asthma in the United States reported having an asthma attack in the preceding 12 months. Those who had attacks had a higher proportion of missed school or work days, emergency department and urgent care visits, and reported fair or poor health. A greater percentage of persons with asthma reported having health-care insurance than persons without asthma. However, among persons with asthma, more of the uninsured were unable to buy prescription medication (40%) vs ~11%) and fewer reported seeing or talking to a specialist or primary care physician about their asthma. This is a particular concern, given the value of inhaled corticosteroids in the management of adults and children with persistent asthma." http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm6017a4.htm?s_cid=mm6017a4_w -----signature----- (none)
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Onslaught. Title: I've always wanted a title. Posts: 56,272 Registered: Feb 13, '01 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 55,112 User ID: 68,094	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	do you need help...? -----signature----- "Mmmmrmmrrrmrrmrmrrrrmrmrrmrmrmrrmrr" -GinsuWife
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_sooz_ Posts: 15,882 Registered: Dec 4, '04 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 15,699 User ID: 1,001,625	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	Onslaught. posted: do you need help...? Psychiatric? Yes Financial? I dont think so -----signature----- Wolfz All the world will be your enemy, Prince of a Thousand enemies. And when they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you.
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-Ducky- Posts: 19,595 Registered: Jun 1, '01 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 19,341 User ID: 143,553	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	Anebriated posted: -Ducky- posted: People sign their kid up for SSI because it has Asthma. ASTHMA? Really? Leave it for the people who truly need it. depends on the asthma. I don't think you could know if a person truly needed it for asthma by looking at them. this is why the people who decide who truly need it should know about asthma. If they truly need it then that is fine. But I guess I just become very suspicious when a doctor feels that all 4, 5, 6, etc of someone's children should be receiving SSI. I often just say a prayer for that person because I cannot imagine the stress and sadness of having to single parent 4+ children all with a disability. ETA: And I do know that Asthma is a very serious condition. I know this sweet little 3 year old who spends most of his life at the hospital because of breathing issues. Perhaps that was a bad example. How about ADHD? -----signature----- Love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And weâ€™ll change the world. ~ Jack Layton
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NonOffensiveName Title: Touching people in special places all day long Posts: 27,882 Registered: Oct 7, '01 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 27,531 User ID: 444,059	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	Gaevren posted: NonOffensiveName posted: a man who serves his country already gets nearly everything handed to him on a silver platter during and after their service usually along with their families(rightfully so) Wow...no...no they don't. They generally get kicked to the curb and have to fight tooth and nail for any of the benefits they were promised while in the service. Support for soldiers and families transitioning out of the military is spotty at best and many people aren't even aware of the services available to them. Jobs are difficult to get for prior service AND their spouses because work history is usually all over the place and/or spotty, due to the military's stationing requirements. It's even worse for soldiers who got out before being in long enough to retire because they have no retirement benefits and their spouses/family won't have any kind of health care. And the prior soldier may not be able to get any kind of VA health care. GI Bill is one of the very few exceptions, and I will admit that it is a VERY nice thing to have. The soldiers do have to pay into it while in the service, however, so it's not entirely "free", but the payout they get is well above what they paid in, so it's absolutely a major bonus. yeah but its there if they decide to take advantage of it...and notice I said the receive benefits while they are in the service too which Ive heard are really nice(again rightfully so they all deserve them) To go out of your way to get free services that you dont need is just greedy imo if you are already covered under another plan and will use the money you get for non medical needs unrelated to your illness That was my point` originally not the fact that service men and women and their family get free benefits. :P -----signature----- Q: What's an AW? A: A whore that likes attention
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jeune Posts: 5,335 Registered: May 29, '05 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 5,311 User ID: 1,052,881	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	-Ducky- posted: Anebriated posted: -Ducky- posted: People sign their kid up for SSI because it has Asthma. ASTHMA? Really? Leave it for the people who truly need it. depends on the asthma. I don't think you could know if a person truly needed it for asthma by looking at them. this is why the people who decide who truly need it should know about asthma. If they truly need it then that is fine. But I guess I just become very suspicious when a doctor feels that all 4, 5, 6, etc of someone's children should be receiving SSI. I often just say a prayer for that person because I cannot imagine the stress and sadness of having to single parent 4+ children all with a disability. Kids can get on SSI?! They should not even be working why would they get a paycheck for not being able to work... I knew the system was bad... not that bad. -----signature----- "Whenever the white man treats the Indian as they treat each other then we shall have no more wars. We shall be all alike â€” brothers of one father and mother, with one sky above us and one country around us and one government for all."
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-Ducky- Posts: 19,595 Registered: Jun 1, '01 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 19,341 User ID: 143,553	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	I assume the intention is to pay for their extra care costs or to ensure they get Medicaid/Medicare coverage for their lives. However sometimes it ends up paying rent/living expenses of other family members. -----signature----- Love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And weâ€™ll change the world. ~ Jack Layton
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.Sylva. Title: The Beer Fairy Posts: 24,491 Registered: Apr 8, '01 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 23,712 User ID: 85,621	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	Lothland posted: _sooz_ posted: People who do that make it SO much freaking harder for those of us who are genuinely together, because people (not to mention immigration!) tend to assume you just got married for a green card. If anything ever happened and Wolfz and i were no longer together i would book it so fast back to England you wouldnt see me for dust. Im not saying that to rag on America, its just not England Should have seen my "proof", we had even been married for 3 years already and still have to jump through a ton of hoops. I'm going to derail once again and just add my bitching about the immigration process to this thread. If I'd just wanted a green card, I could've gotten the damn thing through my mother, who is an American citizen. It's not like I was fleeing a life of poverty and hopelessness and was trying to find the land of milk and honey in the US... um, I already had that life! However, it still took a year to go through the immigration process, and a trip to Montreal for a 10 minute interview. I guess I shouldn't bitch too much - I got to show Dys around Montreal a little bit, and we had a fabulous time. Sooz, I can't presume to tell you what you should and shouldn't do. However, I did read that you're getting the help that you need via Wolfz' benefits. To me, that's reasonable. Drawing additional disability though... you stated that your husband already earns enough to support your (and by your I mean the both of you) lifestyle with enough extra to put some into savings. I'd be inclined to agree with you and not want to milk a system that I didn't really need and that I hadn't paid into. -----signature----- Sometimes I lie awake at night, and I ask, 'Where have I gone wrong?' Then a voice says to me, 'This is going to take more than one night.' Elitist.
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Jezza_Belle Title: =^.^= Posts: 62,779 Registered: Feb 24, '01 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 61,759 User ID: 70,100	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	While I do understand your standpoint, keep in mind a few things. 1. People currently collecting (and historically so) do not pay into Social Security what they're receiving out of it, assuming they live a normal life expectancy, they might have paid in for 40 years, but for a lot of those years they were making $1/hr wages or less sometimes. 2. Wolfz isn't going to be in the military forever, even if he does make a career out of it, he'll likely retire in his 40's, and you have no idea what medical coverage is going to be like at that point. It's a much better plan to apply for the benefits now and save them, than to not have them when you really need them. If you wait too long to apply, they can use the fact that you "got by for years without" as a reason to deny you. -----signature----- ( - Y - ) These ones are not real, just FYI. Follow my progress... http://tweetlbug.deviantart.com/
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ryu_masamune Posts: 9,378 Registered: May 18, '00 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 7,484 User ID: 25,273	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	My only public advice would be that you absolutely shouldn't be discussing such personal stuff on 'this' board: it is really detrimental to your ongoing health and stability. That being said, if you would like some honest dialogue with someone who has an understanding of this particular subject, you could PM me. -----signature----- Your side hates my side because you think we think you're stupid. My side hates your side because we think you're stupid.
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kigaro Title: INTERNET VIGILANTE SUPERHERO Posts: 24,960 Registered: Jul 16, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 24,051 User ID: 697,805	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	Someone is self-prescribing pats on the back. -----signature----- Its funny cause its true!
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Sith_Mauler Posts: 24,642 Registered: Dec 21, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 24,438 User ID: 750,977	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	If you apply now, you might get approved in 2 years if your lucky and you have an "A" list type disability. Like cancer,ms,missing limb, etc... are examples of "A" list disabilities, stuff with physical medical evidence that is undeniable, gets approved some times first time up if you have dotted all the I's and crossed your T's. Mental stuff is going to take a while and you will get denied the first time, because the government has figured out the mental health disability scam. a list=generic term -----signature----- Well I ain't first class But I ain't white trash I'm wild and a little crazy too I have seen a lot of things in my life time. That is why I walk the line I walk.
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Webscar Title: /Yiffs in Hell [face_furry] Posts: 68,467 Registered: Nov 30, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 67,847 User ID: 743,384	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	You're being an idiot. You're doing it for nagging technical reasons instead of pride. There's really no need to fret over which system you paid into. -----signature----- Vagina Purse: 'A daily blog about what I find inside me' ~Ticky
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Gaevren Title: Wat do? Posts: 18,183 Registered: Sep 15, '04 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 17,906 User ID: 967,012	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	Jezza_Belle posted: Wolfz isn't going to be in the military forever, even if he does make a career out of it, he'll likely retire in his 40's, and you have no idea what medical coverage is going to be like at that point. It's a much better plan to apply for the benefits now and save them, than to not have them when you really need them. If you wait too long to apply, they can use the fact that you "got by for years without" as a reason to deny you. This is definitely a valid point, imo. Especially considering that military members are often wounded and then discharged. Depending on the severity or type of such an injury it might be difficult or impossible for him to find work after, in which case you would definitely be glad to have the additional safety net. -----signature----- There are no automatic doors, just very polite ninjas
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Caledric Title: Pew! Pew! Pew! Posts: 22,743 Registered: Dec 22, '01 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 21,691 User ID: 570,169	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	NonOffensiveName posted: a man who serves his country already gets nearly everything handed to him on a silver platter during and after their service usually along with their families(rightfully so) ROFLMAO wait... let me do that again ROFLMAO!!!!! I cannot laugh HARD enough at this statement. You think we get everything handed to us on a silver platter? Let me take you down a stroll on my silver platter. I joined the Marines, got paid a measely wage (about 15k/yr was my salary as a LCpl while active duty) The room they gave me to live in was about half the size of a standard hotel room... and I had to share it with 3 other people. Benefits were nice, but woe be you if you ever got sick and had to go to sick call. You would get chewed out when you finally made it to work (whether it was that day or the next) and put on work details for the next week. I got to go to the beautiful city of Fallujah in Iraq where I made 20k over 7 months thanks to war zone pay... of course I had to put up with being shot at, and people trying to blow me up during that time. After I came home I took my psych evaluation... I was told I have PTSD and sent on my way with no help. I kept getting told help is available, help is there if you need it. Every time I look its a frikkin maze to find any information and a pain in the butt to get in touch with anyone, so I've given up on getting any help with it and just deal with it (which is EXACTLY what my Gunny in the reserves tells me to do!) Now, I'm looking at being admin separated because I'm overweight (which is partially due to my PTSD) and if I do get separated. I lose ALL my benefits. So I'm looking at getting kicked out for being too heavy after going to war and getting mentally f*d up, and having any and all help that may have been available to me stripped away. So please Non.. Tell me all about this Motherf*ng silver platter that I have/had everything handed to me on. -----signature----- Planetside 2 -- Outcasters "As One" Marmot BR 0 (waiting for beta!)
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Ordal Posts: 14,016 Registered: May 24, '01 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 13,608 User ID: 99,636	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	aon_mixed posted: the fact that she is running the table without your consent means that you signed away your rights on the side, i'd be concerned about HIPAA violations lol you're stupid. -----signature----- \|^^^^^^^^^^^\ \|\|______ \| 7.16 ACF'05 \| \|\|'""\|""\_, \| _____________ l \|\|__\|__\|___\|) \|(@(@)""""""""\|(@)(@)*\|(@)
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-Accident- Title: Waiting to happen Posts: 16,541 Registered: Aug 24, '00 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 16,161 User ID: 41,169	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	I'm with deadcactus on this one. You have a real illness that will have a serious impact on your ability to obtain and hold down a job. So what if you didn't pay in? Your husband is, and he is your family. Please, take the benefits and put them to good use. -----signature----- I realize now I do not fear death. I fear my daughter will not be free when I die. - NR, #iranelection
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_sooz_ Posts: 15,882 Registered: Dec 4, '04 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 15,699 User ID: 1,001,625	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	-Accident- posted: I'm with deadcactus on this one. You have a real illness that will have a serious impact on your ability to obtain and hold down a job. So what if you didn't pay in? Your husband is, and he is your family. Please, take the benefits and put them to good use. Well it's a moot point now anyway because i didnt know it was means tested and that we'd have to wait 5 years. So in a few more years i'll reassess then and see what the situation is. With hope, by then i will be stable enough for a job -----signature----- Wolfz All the world will be your enemy, Prince of a Thousand enemies. And when they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you.
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DunesVladHarkonnen Title: Moderator Probably on Vacation Posts: -999,994 Registered: Mar 29, '03 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 25,745 User ID: 785,027	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	If you are elligible for the benefits, take them. The system/program is supposed to be setup to sort out who really needs the help and who doesn't. No point giving up a free lunch regardless if you feel you've earned it or not. (also: lol @ non for his military comments. military members (at least in our countries) earn everything they receive from the people and in most cases the people owe* them a LOT more than they ever get back. my 2cents) -----signature----- There's some delight in ale and wine, And some in girls with ankles fine, But my delight, yes, always mine, Is to dance with Jak o' the Shadows.
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Hawkson Title: I AM AN ASSASSIN (SHH) Posts: 30,565 Registered: Oct 23, '01 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 30,208 User ID: 478,685	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	DunesVladHarkonnen posted: (also: lol @ non for his military comments. military members (at least in our countries) earn everything they receive from the people and in most cases the people own them a LOT more than they ever get back. my 2cents) We own our military members now? -----signature----- Hawkson, Esq. Nothing is true, everything is permitted.
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DunesVladHarkonnen Title: Moderator Probably on Vacation Posts: -999,994 Registered: Mar 29, '03 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 25,745 User ID: 785,027	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	typo! fixed. -----signature----- There's some delight in ale and wine, And some in girls with ankles fine, But my delight, yes, always mine, Is to dance with Jak o' the Shadows.
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_sooz_ Posts: 15,882 Registered: Dec 4, '04 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 15,699 User ID: 1,001,625	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	Hawkson posted: DunesVladHarkonnen posted: (also: lol @ non for his military comments. military members (at least in our countries) earn everything they receive from the people and in most cases the people own them a LOT more than they ever get back. my 2cents) We own our military members now? I didnt know whether to laugh or cry when Wolfz told me he could get into trouble for getting a severe sunburn because it was "damaging government property". -----signature----- Wolfz All the world will be your enemy, Prince of a Thousand enemies. And when they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you.
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_Alexandra_ Title: Lady of the Spatula Posts: 25,641 Registered: Jun 12, '00 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 23,607 User ID: 28,936	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	ryu_masamune posted: My only public advice would be that you absolutely shouldn't be discussing such personal stuff on 'this' board: it is really detrimental to your ongoing health and stability. This. -----signature----- full.of.awesome. http://s1242.photobucket.com/albums/gg537/kyra_arnold/?action=view&current=IMG_1722.jpg
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Sith_Mauler Posts: 24,642 Registered: Dec 21, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 24,438 User ID: 750,977	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	You dont make crap as enlisted until you hit e-5 over 5 years. -----signature----- Well I ain't first class But I ain't white trash I'm wild and a little crazy too I have seen a lot of things in my life time. That is why I walk the line I walk.
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Hawkson Title: I AM AN ASSASSIN (SHH) Posts: 30,565 Registered: Oct 23, '01 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 30,208 User ID: 478,685	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	DunesVladHarkonnen posted: typo! fixed. I figured it was - I just chuckled about it - so I pointed it out. -----signature----- Hawkson, Esq. Nothing is true, everything is permitted.
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Immortal_Haze Posts: 16,105 Registered: Jan 31, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 15,927 User ID: 639,213	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	I'm probably in the minority, buuut...if you qualify and it will help your family, I would personally do it. -----signature----- "Those who have long enjoyed such privileges as we enjoy forget in time that men have died to win them." FDR
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DunesVladHarkonnen Title: Moderator Probably on Vacation Posts: -999,994 Registered: Mar 29, '03 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 25,745 User ID: 785,027	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	Hawkson posted: DunesVladHarkonnen posted: typo! fixed. I figured it was - I just chuckled about it - so I pointed it out. JERK! -----signature----- There's some delight in ale and wine, And some in girls with ankles fine, But my delight, yes, always mine, Is to dance with Jak o' the Shadows.
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Hawkson Title: I AM AN ASSASSIN (SHH) Posts: 30,565 Registered: Oct 23, '01 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 30,208 User ID: 478,685	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	DunesVladHarkonnen posted: JERK! Me?!?!?! NEVER! -----signature----- Hawkson, Esq. Nothing is true, everything is permitted.
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Sarena_WE Title: Glambert Extraordinaire Posts: 33,955 Registered: Jan 11, '01 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 33,314 User ID: 62,350	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	If it actually PREVENTS you from working and you WANT TO work then I would go for it or if you can't work and you need the money, I have no problem paying into a system that helps people like this. If you don't WANT to work but can and are making ends meet, morally I would think you should pass. Then again the grand ole USA isn't exactly built on morality... -----signature----- Chief Operations Officer (COO) Bored & Useless Spam Co. Sarena is the Yin to BTs yanger - Aon_mixed Friends don't let friends ACF-Makarios http://www.indiefl.com/acf/profile/38
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_sooz_ Posts: 15,882 Registered: Dec 4, '04 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 15,699 User ID: 1,001,625	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	Sarena_WE posted: If it actually PREVENTS you from working and you WANT TO work then I would go for it or if you can't work and you need the money, I have no problem paying into a system that helps people like this. If you don't WANT to work but can and are making ends meet, morally I would think you should pass. Then again the grand ole USA isn't exactly built on morality... I would love to have a job but at the moment the illness has too much foothold for that. -----signature----- Wolfz All the world will be your enemy, Prince of a Thousand enemies. And when they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you.
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Immortal_Haze Posts: 16,105 Registered: Jan 31, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 15,927 User ID: 639,213	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	Like I said - Do you qualify? Would it help your family? I'm not seeing a moral issue here, personally. -----signature----- "Those who have long enjoyed such privileges as we enjoy forget in time that men have died to win them." FDR
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Jezza_Belle Title: =^.^= Posts: 62,779 Registered: Feb 24, '01 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 61,759 User ID: 70,100	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	the process to get disability takes so long, you should do it just in case. -----signature----- ( - Y - ) These ones are not real, just FYI. Follow my progress... http://tweetlbug.deviantart.com/
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Fozzie_Bear Posts: 48,479 Registered: Dec 20, '01 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 47,515 User ID: 558,887	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	I have insurance. pretty decent too... but there are lots of things... LOTS of things, that are available to people who are on MassHealth and since we arent on it, we dont qualify to get those supports. to quote Captain Jack Sparrow, "Take what you can, give nothin back!" -----signature----- The Oatmeal Butterscotch paired with a Snickerdoodle turned my cynical penis into a happy vagina Then after an Oatmeal Cranberry and Double Chocolate, it made my new vagina spontaneously sing the Trolololo Song in an elevator. ---AkagiyamaMissile
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JD_HOGG Posts: 19,975 Registered: Mar 18, '08 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 19,893 User ID: 1,285,011	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	Are you capable of working? If no, then yes. If yes, then no. -----signature----- (none)
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Bat_Avenger Posts: 7,592 Registered: Oct 25, '06 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 7,552 User ID: 1,179,274	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	America! Give us your fked up foreigners and we will borrow money from china to pay you not to work. -----signature----- We are One Nation Under God - Barack "Barry" Obama 1/21/2013 Winning the nobel prize means 8 people in scandanavia liked you - it does not indicate truth, brilliance, or anything else. -dugfromthearth
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Fozzie_Bear Posts: 48,479 Registered: Dec 20, '01 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 47,515 User ID: 558,887	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	-----signature----- The Oatmeal Butterscotch paired with a Snickerdoodle turned my cynical penis into a happy vagina Then after an Oatmeal Cranberry and Double Chocolate, it made my new vagina spontaneously sing the Trolololo Song in an elevator. ---AkagiyamaMissile
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myxomatosis8 Title: amateur zookeeper Posts: 18,778 Registered: Jul 14, '01 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 18,441 User ID: 251,097	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	_sooz_ posted: deadcactus posted: Death to sick infants! They never paid into Medicaid! You can listen to the advise of financially mediocre morons who will never have to make the decision or you can just be completely honest and let the system regulate itself. Lying and deception are immoral. Accepting a helping hand is not... The problem is, i dont know when i'll be better. If i had a bum leg that would get better with physio, i would feel ok about temporarily accepting help. But this crap is degenerative and it's only gotten worse as i've got older. Im medicated to the gills and i still hear voices, struggle with apathy and self-care etc. Im scared that if i went on disability, i might never get off it, and to me that is just unacceptable. So follow your gut, and only go on disability if you come to a point where you have to, because you can't afford a medication or a treatment or something else. Otherwise you might be looking at yet another thing that you feel bad or guilty about that nags you in the back of your mind because you're obviously not comfortable with it in the first place. -----signature----- If you're flammable and have legs, you're never blocking a fire exit.
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Jezza_Belle Title: =^.^= Posts: 62,779 Registered: Feb 24, '01 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 61,759 User ID: 70,100	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	myxomatosis8 posted: _sooz_ posted: deadcactus posted: Death to sick infants! They never paid into Medicaid! You can listen to the advise of financially mediocre morons who will never have to make the decision or you can just be completely honest and let the system regulate itself. Lying and deception are immoral. Accepting a helping hand is not... The problem is, i dont know when i'll be better. If i had a bum leg that would get better with physio, i would feel ok about temporarily accepting help. But this crap is degenerative and it's only gotten worse as i've got older. Im medicated to the gills and i still hear voices, struggle with apathy and self-care etc. Im scared that if i went on disability, i might never get off it, and to me that is just unacceptable. So follow your gut, and only go on disability if you come to a point where you have to, because you can't afford a medication or a treatment or something else. Otherwise you might be looking at yet another thing that you feel bad or guilty about that nags you in the back of your mind because you're obviously not comfortable with it in the first place. when she is to the point she can't afford medication THEN she's supposed to apply? Sith wasn't joking about it taking 2 years, your first go around you get denied, it's almost a damn rubber stamp. Disability is not one of those things like welfare that you go down and apply, and come home with an EBT card. Even my nephew, who went from being a smart guy to the mentality of an 8 year old was denied the first time around, he had to wait over a year for the approval to go through the second time. My sister had to argue with them for him, because he would have just accepted whatever he was told. -----signature----- ( - Y - ) These ones are not real, just FYI. Follow my progress... http://tweetlbug.deviantart.com/
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_sooz_ Posts: 15,882 Registered: Dec 4, '04 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 15,699 User ID: 1,001,625	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	Jezza_Belle posted: when she is to the point she can't afford medication THEN she's supposed to apply? Sith wasn't joking about it taking 2 years, your first go around you get denied, it's almost a damn rubber stamp. Disability is not one of those things like welfare that you go down and apply, and come home with an EBT card. Even my nephew, who went from being a smart guy to the mentality of an 8 year old was denied the first time around, he had to wait over a year for the approval to go through the second time. My sister had to argue with them for him, because he would have just accepted whatever he was told. I think im going to wait until im properly eligable (ie when we wont just have to pay it back because of the status of my green card), then i'll see where i am. Yeah, i could start the process now, but my luck says it would all go through smoothly and then i'd get in trouble for applying too early or whatever. The more i think about it, the more i can remember during my visa process that they kept stressing to Wolfz that he was financially responsible for me, that i couldnt become a ward of the state etc. -----signature----- Wolfz All the world will be your enemy, Prince of a Thousand enemies. And when they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you.
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myxomatosis8 Title: amateur zookeeper Posts: 18,778 Registered: Jul 14, '01 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 18,441 User ID: 251,097	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	Jezza_Belle posted: myxomatosis8 posted: So follow your gut, and only go on disability if you come to a point where you have to, because you can't afford a medication or a treatment or something else. Otherwise you might be looking at yet another thing that you feel bad or guilty about that nags you in the back of your mind because you're obviously not comfortable with it in the first place. when she is to the point she can't afford medication THEN she's supposed to apply? Sith wasn't joking about it taking 2 years, your first go around you get denied, it's almost a damn rubber stamp. Disability is not one of those things like welfare that you go down and apply, and come home with an EBT card. Even my nephew, who went from being a smart guy to the mentality of an 8 year old was denied the first time around, he had to wait over a year for the approval to go through the second time. My sister had to argue with them for him, because he would have just accepted whatever he was told. That's entirely a valid point, I'm also on the side of the people who say "take it because you're not abusing the system if you are allowed to have these benefits." Someone mentioned there is a waiting period, but there's also an idea of applying for the benefits ASAP, and put everything into a completely separate dedicated account that you would use only for treatment or whatnot of your disability. If I did that, I'd personally have a clear conscience, and it's not like you're abusing anything in the first place... -----signature----- If you're flammable and have legs, you're never blocking a fire exit.
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Sarena_WE Title: Glambert Extraordinaire Posts: 33,955 Registered: Jan 11, '01 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 33,314 User ID: 62,350	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	Well then if you want to work and can't because of it, I would say go for it and at least start the process. As others have said, it can take moons and moons before you even get through step one of the application process. -----signature----- Chief Operations Officer (COO) Bored & Useless Spam Co. Sarena is the Yin to BTs yanger - Aon_mixed Friends don't let friends ACF-Makarios http://www.indiefl.com/acf/profile/38
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Sarena_WE Title: Glambert Extraordinaire Posts: 33,955 Registered: Jan 11, '01 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 33,314 User ID: 62,350	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	Ok and here is another scenario. Suppose Wolfz is impaired somehow due to an accident or illness that makes him no long able to be in the service. Yes he will likely get some sort of disability pay but depending on on severity it might just be simple enough to make him unable to serve in the military but able to work civilian. There goes your health bennies and the like other than for his injury. It would be best to have something to help buffer things until you can find a treatment that actually consistently works for you. -----signature----- Chief Operations Officer (COO) Bored & Useless Spam Co. Sarena is the Yin to BTs yanger - Aon_mixed Friends don't let friends ACF-Makarios http://www.indiefl.com/acf/profile/38
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_sooz_ Posts: 15,882 Registered: Dec 4, '04 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 15,699 User ID: 1,001,625	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	Sarena_WE posted: Ok and here is another scenario. Suppose Wolfz is impaired somehow due to an accident or illness that makes him no long able to be in the service. Yes he will likely get some sort of disability pay but depending on on severity it might just be simple enough to make him unable to serve in the military but able to work civilian. There goes your health bennies and the like other than for his injury. It would be best to have something to help buffer things until you can find a treatment that actually consistently works for you. True... -----signature----- Wolfz All the world will be your enemy, Prince of a Thousand enemies. And when they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you.
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combat_mage_sc Title: Hi. My name is Combat and i'm an alcoholic. Posts: 41,508 Registered: Jul 20, '01 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 40,845 User ID: 266,617	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	Now we're importing SSI recipients? -----signature----- .................._@@@__ ......_____//____?___\________ - ---o--------BEER-POLICE----@) -----`--(@)======+====(@)--
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Malrothien Posts: 32,930 Registered: Aug 4, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 31,620 User ID: 703,438	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	_sooz_ posted: Jezza_Belle posted: when she is to the point she can't afford medication THEN she's supposed to apply? Sith wasn't joking about it taking 2 years, your first go around you get denied, it's almost a damn rubber stamp. Disability is not one of those things like welfare that you go down and apply, and come home with an EBT card. Even my nephew, who went from being a smart guy to the mentality of an 8 year old was denied the first time around, he had to wait over a year for the approval to go through the second time. My sister had to argue with them for him, because he would have just accepted whatever he was told. I think im going to wait until im properly eligable (ie when we wont just have to pay it back because of the status of my green card), then i'll see where i am. Yeah, i could start the process now, but my luck says it would all go through smoothly and then i'd get in trouble for applying too early or whatever. The more i think about it, the more i can remember during my visa process that they kept stressing to Wolfz that he was financially responsible for me, that i couldnt become a ward of the state etc. And it is his obligation to make sure you don't. The affadavit of support ensures this. -----signature----- In the darkest hole, you'd be well advised Not to plan my funeral before the body dies
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-Foxy- Title: Moderator Ãœber Brat Posts: 110,094 Registered: May 29, '02 Extended Info (if available) Real Post Cnt: 107,357 User ID: 683,944	Subject: Am i being an idiot to refuse to even try this? (/flame suit on)
	sooz? start the process some day, you may need it and it will be too late to start the process. -----signature----- Long suffering vassal to Xarkath, U.P. - Forever and ever
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