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Eye opening ain't it?
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100g of Sesame Seeds = 600 calories and 50g of fat
100g of Whole Milk = 60 calories and 3.3g of Fat
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AzureTyger posted:
100g of Sesame Seeds = 600 calories and 50g of fat
100g of Whole Milk = 60 calories and 3.3g of Fat
True but the fats in sesame seeds are healthy fats unlike that in milk. Agreed that if you are trying to drop weight it may not be a great idea to eat a ton of these but they are extremely healthy for you..
Remember not all fats are created equal.
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charts are fun
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I don't care about the nutritional content of food. That's why god made vitamins.
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Interesting. Years ago a friend of mine had to pass a stone. (It is an excruciating experience...) According to his doctor brother, it is calcite's that contribute to Kidney stone production (or that is the way I remember the conversation anyway). I don't know if any of those things listed are contributors but supposedly Broccoli is one of them and my friend was a big Broccoli eater.
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paulg_68 posted:
I don't care about the nutritional content of food. That's why god made vitamins.
Problem with vitamins is that they are very poorly absorbed by our guts, a waste of money imo..
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Eye opening ain't it?
Very cool! 
Now do one for Vitamin B-12! I can't wait to see it! 
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That's a tougher issue. Animals like fish and cattle for example have B12 available in their tissues due to the fact that they consume plants, for cattle however the microorganism in their gut produce B12 during the fermentation of the plants they are eating. These plants roots' have a symbiotic relationship with bacteria and microorganisms that produce the B12 taken up by the plants' roots. Due to this B12 varies in consistency across plants, specifically sea vegetables like kelp and nori, but nutritional yeast is also a decent source but also varies in concentration.
I take a lozenge every day and use nutritional yeast, sea wees and Chlorella as sources.
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Coriolus posted:
I take a lozenge every day and use nutritional yeast, sea wees and Chlorella as sources.
 I'd rather eat pink slime burgers.
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dude that sounds nasty
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Coriolus posted:
That's a tougher issue. Animals like fish and cattle for example have B12 available in their tissues due to the fact that they consume plants, for cattle however the microorganism in their gut produce B12 during the fermentation of the plants they are eating. These plants roots' have a symbiotic relationship with bacteria and microorganisms that produce the B12 taken up by the plants' roots. Due to this B12 varies in consistency across plants, specifically sea vegetables like kelp and nori, but nutritional yeast is also a decent source but also varies in concentration.
It was a "gotcha" which is why I did a ... and nothing you posted is accurate. 
B12 does not vary in consistency across plants, at least in any form we give a crap about, because B12 doesn't exist in plant material in any form we can metabolize. We cannot obtain B12 from plant material. Period.
The only natural source of the vitamin is by eating animal proteins (including dairy) because B12 is the waste product produced by the busy little bacteria in our tummy, and that bacteria is monogamously carnivorous. 
This is why you eat a "lozenge" (read: Vitamin pill) because there is no possible way to get any B12 from plants.
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Koneg posted:
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That's a tougher issue. Animals like fish and cattle for example have B12 available in their tissues due to the fact that they consume plants, for cattle however the microorganism in their gut produce B12 during the fermentation of the plants they are eating. These plants roots' have a symbiotic relationship with bacteria and microorganisms that produce the B12 taken up by the plants' roots. Due to this B12 varies in consistency across plants, specifically sea vegetables like kelp and nori, but nutritional yeast is also a decent source but also varies in concentration.
It was a "gotcha" which is why I did a ... and nothing you posted is accurate.
B12 does not vary in consistency across plants, at least in any form we give a crap about, because B12 doesn't exist in plant material in any form we can metabolize. We cannot obtain B12 from plant material. Period.
The only natural source of the vitamin is by eating animal proteins (including dairy) because B12 is the waste product produced by the busy little bacteria in our tummy, and that bacteria is monogamously carnivorous.
This is why you eat a "lozenge" (read: Vitamin pill) because there is no possible way to get any B12 from plants.
You are wrong about B12 is plant material, it exists in sea vegetables due to the symbiotic relationship with microorganisms on their root systems. It also exists in nutritional yeast. Do your research bud :P Thing about B12 in sea plants is it is an 'analogue' which are not as bio-available as active cobalamin types of B12 so you are partially correct :P I just play it safe and take methylcobalamin lozenges..
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Kjarhall posted:
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I take a lozenge every day and use nutritional yeast, sea wees and Chlorella as sources.
I'd rather eat pink slime burgers.
Which is why you will likely encounter the diseases associated with eating such things..
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How much Calcium do you need a day?
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Tych2 posted:
How much Calcium do you need a day?
about 1000mg
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Ahh I am good then. I have a couple of glasses of OJ every morning plus my normal daily meals.
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eating 100g of hijiki is kinda a chore though.
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Coriolus posted:
You are wrong about B12 is plant material, it exists in sea vegetables due to the symbiotic relationship with microorganisms on their root systems. It also exists in nutritional yeast. Do your research bud :P
You might try doing the same.
There is no plant-based source of B12 on this planet. It is literally bacterial crap produced by symbiotic bacteria living in our intestine, and that bacteria only digests meat and animal proteins.
The "nutritional yeast" you refer to has had the B12 added to it you dimbulb - precisely because it is the one vitamin/mineral you cannot possibly get through a strictly vegan diet.
If you want to tell me the seaweed you eat has been fortified with B12 that's one thing. If you try to tell me it exists in a free form naturally within that seaweed, that's crap, and you'll need to cite a source.
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Yukishiro1 posted:
eating 100g of hijiki is kinda a chore though.
haha yeah, soups, maki etc..
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[quote=Coriolus]You are wrong about B12 is plant material, it exists in sea vegetables due to the symbiotic relationship with microorganisms on their root systems. It also exists in nutritional yeast. Do your research bud :P
You might try doing the same.
There is no plant-based source of B12 on this planet. It is literally bacterial crap produced by symbiotic bacteria living in our intestine, and that bacteria only digests meat and animal proteins.
It's not fortified dumbass it's created by the microbateria on the roots but it is in analogue form which is not as good as active form so yeah you're wrong.
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Coriolus posted:
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eating 100g of hijiki is kinda a chore though.
haha yeah, soups, maki etc..
uh hijiki =/= nori.
hijiki is the little black stuff that's long and skinny and maybe 3/4 of an inch long.
100g of it would be a LOT.
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It's not fortified dumbass it's created by the microbateria on the roots but it is in analogue form which is not as good as active form so yeah you're wrong.
Nutritional Yeast is grown in labs as a commercial product. As such, it doesn't have "microbateria" on the roots. 
Because nutritional yeast is often used by vegans, who usually need to supplement their diets with vitamin B12, there has been confusion about the source of the B12 in nutritional yeast. Although yeast is closer to animals than plants in their genome and metabolism, they cannot produce B12, which is only naturally produced by bacteria. Some brands of nutritional yeast, though not all, are fortified with vitamin B12. When fortified, the vitamin B12 is produced separately (commonly Cyanocobalamin) and then added to the yeast.
Although some species of bacteria that can produce B12 could potentially grow along with S. cerevisiae in the wild, commercially produced nutritional yeast is grown in controlled conditions that would normally not allow those bacteria to grow. Therefore, nutritional yeast should not be relied upon as a source of B12 unless it is fortified.
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Koneg posted:
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It's not fortified dumbass it's created by the microbateria on the roots but it is in analogue form which is not as good as active form so yeah you're wrong.
Nutritional Yeast is grown in labs as a commercial product. As such, it doesn't have "microbateria" on the roots.
Because nutritional yeast is often used by vegans, who usually need to supplement their diets with vitamin B12, there has been confusion about the source of the B12 in nutritional yeast. Although yeast is closer to animals than plants in their genome and metabolism, they cannot produce B12, which is only naturally produced by bacteria. Some brands of nutritional yeast, though not all, are fortified with vitamin B12. When fortified, the vitamin B12 is produced separately (commonly Cyanocobalamin) and then added to the yeast.
Although some species of bacteria that can produce B12 could potentially grow along with S. cerevisiae in the wild, commercially produced nutritional yeast is grown in controlled conditions that would normally not allow those bacteria to grow. Therefore, nutritional yeast should not be relied upon as a source of B12 unless it is fortified.
Well I supplement so I should be ok 
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