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http://news.yahoo.com/gop-run-house-easily-rejects-obama-budget-013519895.html
GOP-run House easily rejects Obama budget
The Republican-run House has overwhelmingly rejected President Barack Obama's $3.6 trillion budget for next year after a vote forced by GOP lawmakers to embarrass Democrats.
The vote was 414-0.
Tell me whats wrong with this story.
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How often is the executive’s budget adopted whole?
Just curious about the assumptions you are building your argument on.
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Can't get anymore bipartisan than that. Why did they keep trying to blame it on the GOP?
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Sin_of_Onin posted:
How often is the executive’s budget adopted whole?
Just curious about the assumptions you are building your argument on.
Did Bush propose budgets that were entirely rejected by his own party? Not a gotcha question - I don't know.
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Bjorvald posted:
Sin_of_Onin posted:
How often is the executive’s budget adopted whole?
Just curious about the assumptions you are building your argument on.
Did Bush propose budgets that were entirely rejected by his own party? Not a gotcha question - I don't know.
The legislature has a committee process in which they create their own budget. Their starting point tends to be the executive budget but there are multiple changes in each committee to the budget.
The vote on the Obama budget is just a political move meant to create the exact reaction it is creating in this thread by idiots. It is political theater for stupid people and nothing else.
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Grymlo posted:
http://news.yahoo.com/gop-run-house-easily-rejects-obama-budget-013519895.html
GOP-run House easily rejects Obama budget
The Republican-run House has overwhelmingly rejected President Barack Obama's $3.6 trillion budget for next year after a vote forced by GOP lawmakers to embarrass Democrats.
The vote was 414-0.
Tell me whats wrong with this story.
You're stupid enough to actually post this knowing we know you haven't been paying attention.
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Sin_of_Onin posted:
Bjorvald posted:
Sin_of_Onin posted:
How often is the executive’s budget adopted whole?
Just curious about the assumptions you are building your argument on.
Did Bush propose budgets that were entirely rejected by his own party? Not a gotcha question - I don't know.
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Great. So, are you gonna answer his question?
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The budget Obama submitted was political theater. The rejection of it is political theater designed to counter Obama's political theater.
Why get mad about one kind of political theater and not the other?
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The president's budget is used as the starting point. That's what the vote was for. There was no need for democrats to vote for it when it was definitely not going to get any support from Republicans, so instead of tying themselves to anything in his budget they just stayed away. It's not a big indictment either way because it was a non starter from the beginning anyways. The Republicans will make something up on their own and it will be passed on a party line vote.
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During the Presidential debates Obama will want to claim that he had a plan to reduce the deficit but that it was rejected by Republicans. If he tries that now the Republican candidate will throw this vote in his face.
Obama proposed a bunch of stuff he knew would never pass solely because he wanted to brag about it in the debates. Now he can't.
BS move countered with a BS move.
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Grymlo posted:
The vote was 414-0.
Wow. Damn repubs mind controlling the house dems to make it unanimous 
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If your reaction to a unanimous vote against Obama is "ROLF EVEN TEH DEMZ HATE OBAMA!!!" then you are a moron.
The first thought you should have when you see a vote like this is "Oh, this must be a required response to some sort of archaic parliamentary procedure that probably happens quite often."
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B_Shinkicker posted:
THE BUDGET WAS WEARING A HOODIE!!
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Two years in a row.
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Our Congress is completely broken and is suffering from its *worst* approval ratings in *history*
Clearly this is Obama's fault 
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That wasn't a budget.
That wasn't even "a dog ate my homework".
That document was a unicorn sharting skittles all over Congress's face in hopes to appease the part of the electorate that believes in unicorns who shart skittles.
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paulg_68 posted:
Can't get anymore bipartisan than that. Why did they keep trying to blame it on the GOP?
We have a winner 
According to the story this is all the GOPs fault even though everyone voted against it!
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Abaddon_Ambrosius posted:
Great. So, are you gonna answer his question?
I already asked a question that wasn't answered dumbass.
A Democrat vote for the budget or a Republican vote for a Bush budget would be political theater. The only reason to stick with the Obama budget is if that is the one you plan on pushing. Otherwise it is old news. Meanwhile both parties will build their budgets around what Obama produced.
As I said before this is political theater for stupid people. Congrats on being entertained.
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Sin_of_Onin posted:
Political theater is bad when the Republicans do it.
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paulg_68 posted:
The budget Obama submitted was political theater. The rejection of it is political theater designed to counter Obama's political theater.
Why get mad about one kind of political theater and not the other?
The executive budget is the starting point. It wasn't even complete by Obama's admission. Tax reform for example was left out.
The executive budget helps establish a lot of the bureaucratic necessities like establishing a current services budget. The legislature (CBO) may tweak that but for the most part the executive budget is meant to get this work out of the way so that Congress can focus on policy. The executive will suggest a lot of policy that will not be accepted. Guaranteed. But they are able to use this to start conversations on issues.
Pretty much 90% of the work the legislature does is building their own budget. It is their job to create their own. To adopt the budget whole would be giving away their power. It would be stupid.
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The president's budget is used as the starting point. That's what the vote was for. There was no need for democrats to vote for it when it was definitely not going to get any support from Republicans, so instead of tying themselves to anything in his budget they just stayed away. It's not a big indictment either way because it was a non starter from the beginning anyways. The Republicans will make something up on their own and it will be passed on a party line vote.
NO WAI IT MEANS OBAMA IS A KENYAN MUSLIN!!!!!!!!1111111
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Not going to waste my time on all the partisan arglebargle, just let this sink in for a bit.
A four way comparison budget projection of 2016. http://www.usdebtclock.org/cbo-omb-gop-budget-estimates.html
Make your time...
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Sin_of_Onin posted:
As I said before this is political theater for stupid people. Congrats on being entertained.
I completely ignored the Obama budget as the useless theater and time-waster it was... and... this thread isn't entertaining me either.
DANCE FOR ME, DAMMIT. 
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Abaddon_Ambrosius posted:
Sin_of_Onin posted:
As I said before this is political theater for stupid people. Congrats on being entertained.
I completely ignored the Obama budget as the useless theater and time-waster it was...
It is always fun to watch you celebrate your own ignorance so enthusiastically.
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