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They seem less insipid than CNN. More watchable because it's less phony. Plus the Al Shaprton commercials are awesome.
DEY WERE DA ONES WHO ATE DA PIE!
They're coverage of the Republican primary is what you would expect, but the Obamacare coverage that I had seen was in my opinion fair.
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I made the switch from CNN to MSNBC a little over a year ago. It's much better.
Fwiw, I mostly watch Morning Joe and Hardball. Occasionally I'll watch Maddow.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ul2iiMKwkvc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxKd5lpZwLY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1bGmwJBaj8
just 3 of MSNBC crazy inbred lying piece of crap
HOWARD KURTZ, CNN HOST: Reverend Al Sharpton, how on earth can Al Sharpton go there and be an activist and stand with the parents and he asks people to contribute money and he went to the Justice Department with the parents of Trayvon Martin.
LAUREN ASHBURN: Right.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And then he does his show and then he speaks at the rally again.
LAUREN ASHBURN: He is covering himself.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He is covering himself.
LAUREN ASHBURN: Right.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: How can MSNBC allow that?
LAUREN ASHBURN: It is a little hard to see how that is possible.
But news agencies have a responsibility, morally and professionally to practice restraint in situations like this one. Jacking up ratings is one thing but putting people in physical danger is quite something else
http://www.billoreilly.com/b/Bill-OReilly:-Trayvon-Martin-case-takes-an-intense-turn/-157795693918710478.html
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MSNBC is every bit the biased, condescending piece of crap that Fox is.
I'll listen to NPR and a couple of blog sites to get the "liberal" side and concerns so I can go investigate across multiple sites when I hit an issue on which I think I need some education.
I have several blogs I use to get a bead on "conservative" concerns that I then go research.
I watch the freakin' BBC (sad) for general US news for survey purposes.
If I had a billion dollars, I would start a news network that actually IS unbiased and gives 2 or 3 sides of every story. I can't imagine how much time it would save people like me weekly. Hours.
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Morning Joe is the best morning news and entertainment show on TV. By far.
Sure, Joe is still a crazed right wing nut bag....at times. But he is much more fair than he used to be, and the other people on the show keep his ass from going too far off into nut bag land. He is actually likable and attempts to be open minded now. It's a great dynamic for the show, you can see him working hard not to be crazy most of the time. He busts down hard if any guest tries to get away with crazy crap as well, doesn't matter if they are crazy liberal or crazy "conservative" either. One of the few hosts on TV who refuses to let the "experts" lie thru their teeth all the time.
The news shows they produce are fairly middle of the road, they miss the same stuff all the other networks news shows miss, repeat all the same stupid rumors, and cover the same "stories"......fairly decent news by today's standards. You wont actually learn anything, but you will know that some stuff is happening, even if you don't quite understand what it means.
Their political stuff (starts at around 4PM I think) is all commentary and opinions. While a couple of those shows are very well researched and intelligent (Madow in particular) it is all from a liberal perspective and not worth watching unless you like to cheer your team on or are wanting some in depth info that is easier to find and more complete on the interweb. I haven't watched any of them in years, though I will catch a clip on youtube from time to time.
In short, MSNBC is a much better news station than CNN, but it's still full of opinion crap instead of actual news for most of the day (not to mention nothing but prison stories all weekends). For real news in the evenings, I listen to BBC. CNN is absolutely dreadful these days. It's like they want to be FOX...but don't have the balls.
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I watched Morning Joe for the longest.
Now, I watch local news in the morning.
Local news at 5 and then Brian Williams.
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It is astoundingly pitiful that, typing at the same time, Ptilk and I both admit we watch another country's news cast in order to get something APPROACHING even-handed news about the US.
The US. A democracy based on the concept of an educated, informed voter.
Out. Of. Control.
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I watch Chris Matthews pretty regularly. I like Maddow, but, I don't like wading through an hour of Ed to get to her, so, I usually just turn the TV off or switch to Netflix streaming. I don't do mornings, so I haven't seen much of Morning Joe. From the clips I've seen, he seems to be pretty fair minded.
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DEY WERE DA ONES WHO ATE DA PIE!
 yeah that one is pretty awesome
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Morning Joe is the best morning news and entertainment show on TV. By far.
That show is the biggest Marxist POS on the air ... the daughter of the man who gave us Bin Laden spouting her intolerant socialist POVs hasn't had a real job her whole life except the ones her dad has pulled string to get for her.
And then is Gollum ... errr .. Willie Geist constantly stroking the socialist party line muttering "my precious"
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TV = brain damage.
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Morning Joe has brain damage. He just said the Ramones were great.
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It's a shame that Joe wasn't off today (he takes like every other week off it seems) because the back and forth arglebargle between Tom Coburn and Howard Dean could have escalated to epic heights of hilarity.
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I watch Morning Joe and Brain Williams.
I try to get into Mike and Mike in the morning on ESPN2, but they talk so much football, even with the baseball season fast approaching, they spent so much time on Manning and Tebow.
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Abaddon_Ambrosius posted:
MSNBC is every bit the biased, condescending piece of crap that Fox is.
I'll listen to NPR and a couple of blog sites to get the "liberal" side and concerns so I can go investigate across multiple sites when I hit an issue on which I think I need some education.
I have several blogs I use to get a bead on "conservative" concerns that I then go research.
I watch the freakin' BBC (sad) for general US news for survey purposes.
If I had a billion dollars, I would start a news network that actually IS unbiased and gives 2 or 3 sides of every story. I can't imagine how much time it would save people like me weekly. Hours.
You have hit on the Whitehouse spin quite nicely. Perhaps you should watch Fox News for a while and see for yourself.
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Fist_de_Yuma posted:
Abaddon_Ambrosius posted:
MSNBC is every bit the biased, condescending piece of crap that Fox is.
I'll listen to NPR and a couple of blog sites to get the "liberal" side and concerns so I can go investigate across multiple sites when I hit an issue on which I think I need some education.
I have several blogs I use to get a bead on "conservative" concerns that I then go research.
I watch the freakin' BBC (sad) for general US news for survey purposes.
If I had a billion dollars, I would start a news network that actually IS unbiased and gives 2 or 3 sides of every story. I can't imagine how much time it would save people like me weekly. Hours.
You have hit on the Whitehouse spin quite nicely. Perhaps you should watch Fox News for a while and see for yourself.
Fox is no better than MSNBC
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I almost never watch TV and have only seen Morning Joe a couple of times in the past year or so, but it's always entertaining and occasionally informative. More than can be said of almost any other "news" show on TV.
I like that Tamara woman a bit as well. Not because the news is well thought out or informative though...but because she is hot as hell.
On that note, Robin Meade is the only reason that HLN still exists. 
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Morning Joe is pretty good.
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MSNBC is just as biased as Fox News but they are not as good at it.
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Fist_de_Yuma posted:
You have hit on the Whitehouse spin quite nicely. Perhaps you should watch Fox News for a while and see for yourself.
I don't let others do my thinking for me. My father watches Fox and I've watched it for multiple hours over the last few months. I've also tuned into MSNBC and sampled several of their clips, as noted on this board, several times over the last year.
They're both, on the whole, horribly biased and useless pieces of propaganda crap who distort by selective coverage, by selective interpretation, by outright disdainful editorializing, or all three. Depending on which segment is showing.
Fox has SOME saving grace in their libertarian fare, but even that has its issues. (And even that is getting swept away, see: the Napolitano cancellation).
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No. They aren't as biased.
Not in their actual news shows that is.
Anyone who says they are is full of crap or hasn't actually watched their news.
Their hosts don't ad-lib stupid talking points that are direct out takes from a party organization, nor do they perpetuate clearly biased stupidity as "news".
Give FOX the respect they have earned. They are openly and proudly an operative of the "conservatives". While MSNBC is full of opinion shows that are open about their affiliation to "liberal" ideals..their news isn't constantly interrupted by the hosts spewing biased nonsense.
I'm no big supporter of MSNBC, I think they fail at being a news organization because they devote all of their evening hours to biased shows, but their news shows in the morning and early afternoon are just weak, not openly advocating a political viewpoint.
FOX is 100%, all the time, always on....."conservative". They stand alone and their ratings reflect this. They give their audience exactly what they want 100% of the time....and that's a "conservative" take on everything.
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No. They aren't as biased.
They made Olberman a news anchor during the 2008 election.
Fox has never made Hannity a news anchor.
End of debate.
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MSNBC is in my rotation. The non news commentators can be pretty entertaining at times.
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Aerlinthian posted:
OP = brain damage.
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TV = brain damage.
This .. My kids get very limited time with TV .. And there are channels we do not allow them to see
I have sat down with my oldest to watch FOX, MSNBC, CNN and talk to him about bias and see if he can identify it
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Fist_de_Yuma posted:
Abaddon_Ambrosius posted:
MSNBC is every bit the biased, condescending piece of crap that Fox is.
I'll listen to NPR and a couple of blog sites to get the "liberal" side and concerns so I can go investigate across multiple sites when I hit an issue on which I think I need some education.
I have several blogs I use to get a bead on "conservative" concerns that I then go research.
I watch the freakin' BBC (sad) for general US news for survey purposes.
If I had a billion dollars, I would start a news network that actually IS unbiased and gives 2 or 3 sides of every story. I can't imagine how much time it would save people like me weekly. Hours.
You have hit on the Whitehouse spin quite nicely. Perhaps you should watch Fox News for a while and see for yourself.
Proof positive of what a partisan hack you are that you can only see the bias from the side you don't like.
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Maddow may be the worst person ever on TV.
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Maddow may be the worst person ever on TV.
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The dude is even worse than Maddow. It isn't as obvious at first but then bam he is unbelievably horrific.
Guys like O'Reilly are really good at what they do. He is a complete idiot but he is really good at talking to other idiots.
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Sin_of_Onin posted:
Guys like O'Reilly are really good at what they do. He is a complete idiot but he is really good at talking to other idiots.
This wasn't always true. I watched O'Reilly his first couple of years on-air. The first 18 months or so when he was starting was actually kindof... sane. He was aggressive in presenting points, but it really was something of a no-spin zone where he called out all sides on their idiocy. He'd also clearly identify when his personal bias was being injected (usually in his segment at the end of the show, separated from the other content).
That all got thrown out the window PDQ. Then his show (and he) became the POS you see today.
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