Tych2 posted:

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No one wants to eat pink slime you dumbass.

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Brother_Tempus posted:

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ABC didn't kill "pink slime". ... The people now educated, stated that this was something they did not want and without the need of government used their speech, their wallets and their feet

That is the free market at work

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Lyndrek posted:

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Brother_Tempus posted:

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ABC didn't kill "pink slime". ... The people now educated, stated that this was something they did not want and without the need of government used their speech, their wallets and their feet

That is the free market at work

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what BT said.

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Yukishiro1 posted:

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bleu_errer is apparently the only force in the universe stupid enough to make BT make sense.

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Yukishiro1 posted:

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bleu_errer is apparently the only force in the universe stupid enough to make BT make sense.

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Yukishiro1 posted:

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bleu_errer is apparently the only force in the universe stupid enough to make BT make sense.

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Fist_de_Yuma posted:

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Let me see if I have this straight. They are taking a part of the cow that is normally wasted and turning into an affordable meat product that cost less than prime cuts of meat that is better for you and safer to than normal meat.

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Fist_de_Yuma posted:

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Let me see if I have this straight. They are taking a part of the cow that is normally wasted and turning into an affordable meat product that cost less than prime cuts of meat that is better for you and safer to than normal meat.

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Yukishiro1 posted:

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bleu_errer is apparently the only force in the universe stupid enough to make BT make sense.

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DemonicXH posted:

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Did anybody actually read the snopes article I posted?

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Yukishiro1 posted:

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Fist_de_Yuma posted:

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Let me see if I have this straight. They are taking a part of the cow that is normally wasted and turning into an affordable meat product that cost less than prime cuts of meat that is better for you and safer to than normal meat.

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Uh no. The problem was they were mixing this stuff in with the rest of the ground meat as an adulterating agent in order to make money more. Without telling anyone they were doing it.

When you buy ground beef at that market you don't assume it's going to have processed waste products in it. You assume it's ground beef. Not part processed beef waste that's been run through a machine to to turn it into edible pink slime they can mix in.

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Yukishiro1 posted:

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No. Go back to ACF. Or write some news for the website. Maybe you can report on the 3 dudes still playing the game.

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Fist_de_Yuma posted:

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You really think you are getting prime meat in ground beef?

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DemonicXH posted:

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Did anybody actually read the snopes article I posted?

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DemonicXH posted:

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[quote=Yukishiro1]
Instead of attacking the messenger I suggest you read the article.

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Fist_de_Yuma posted:

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I read it. Nothing new to me. I have known for some time now that the making of a product is not ways pretty. I go with the end results. Sadly we have people who would rather slander others than open their minds. It is why networks like ABC are still running. Anyone that can do fact checking would have turned them off long ago.

Of course they would rather read slanted rants about Fox News than every watch something for themselves and decide.

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Eager_Igraine posted:

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Fist_de_Yuma posted:

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I read it. Nothing new to me. I have known for some time now that the making of a product is not ways pretty. I go with the end results. Sadly we have people who would rather slander others than open their minds. It is why networks like ABC are still running. Anyone that can do fact checking would have turned them off long ago.

Of course they would rather read slanted rants about Fox News than every watch something for themselves and decide.

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So your contention is that reporting the process by which the meat product is created, and from what, is slander? If you are correct, I imagine we will be seeing a slew of law suits against ABC, right?

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Blue_arrow posted:

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ABC News smeared a stellar company with 'pink slime'

ABC and reporter Jim Avila. The network's news division has decided to declare open war on … beef. So far, they’re winning. In a series of 10 stories in just about two weeks, ABC has so demonized the company and its products that Safeway, SUPERVALU and Food Lion just stopped buying it.



But network broadcasts and activist videos act as if this treatment is somehow bad. This is beyond simple irresponsibility. ABC is out to destroy a family owned business to push the agenda of a couple of “whistleblowers” who don’t like the company’s beef. One of these whistleblowers, whom ABC has relied on heavily in its reporting, has dubbed it “pink slime.”

ABC has covered the story almost round the clock in recent weeks with stories on “World News with Diane Sawyer” and “Good Morning America.”


Predictably ABC News has hyped its reports by using the term “pink slime” 52 times in just a two-week

In his March 22 victory lap report about the stores pulling the beef, Avila and anchor Diane Sawyer kept calling the meat “pink slime” like a 4-year-old who has just learned a dirty word. In all, they said it 10 times


Major media have attacked a long list of industries in recent years – coal, oil, guns, Wall Street, banks and more. Each time, they savage an industry, they do it for ratings, never caring what damage they do to a company, shareholders or employees who might soon be looking for work.

In ABC’s case, it’s clear they care more about headlines than health, never even mentioning the dangers of E. coli that the company, and industry, both fight against. What’s next for ABC and Avila? A war on companies that fight ebola?

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/03/23/how-abc-news-smeared-stellar-company-with-pink-slime/






Obama and company ABC,MSNBC,CNN destroying family business

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Fist_de_Yuma posted:

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Yukishiro1 posted:

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Fist_de_Yuma posted:

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Let me see if I have this straight. They are taking a part of the cow that is normally wasted and turning into an affordable meat product that cost less than prime cuts of meat that is better for you and safer to than normal meat.

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Uh no. The problem was they were mixing this stuff in with the rest of the ground meat as an adulterating agent in order to make money more. Without telling anyone they were doing it.

When you buy ground beef at that market you don't assume it's going to have processed waste products in it. You assume it's ground beef. Not part processed beef waste that's been run through a machine to to turn it into edible pink slime they can mix in.

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You really think you are getting prime meat in ground beef? What hole have you been hiding in?

I use ground beef mixed with turkey meat. When I serve it I call it meat loaf, not ground beef/turkey meet loaf.

You have to ask a few thing. Is it safe; yes. Is it tasty? Perhaps, no one is complaining about the taste. Is it bad for you? Less fat may not mean that but that is what the "food experts" have been telling us. Of course they have gone 180 on so many things that few can trust a anything they say.

Just what is it in this meat that makes it deserve the title "red slime"? I mean other than ABC trying to get rating? Remember the apple scare? Fear gets ratings. Mindless followers tune in to be told to be scared. Science and facts need not get in the way.

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Sansfear posted:

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The lack of labeling is the only real issue. I believe that mechanically separated poultry has to be labeled as such, but beef did not.

If it were labeled and sold cheaper than regular ground beef people could make the choice of whether or not they wanted to buy it. It is the feeling of being misled that has people upset.

The media has fed that feeling in the extreme and having major companies stop buying it is a direct result of that backlash.

I'm guessing that laws regarding labeling will be passed and it will once again start being sold. But by that time, the companies involved will have been driven out of business.

And while some people may cringe at the 'pink slime' monicker, there are plenty of other foods that we'd probably think twice about if we knew how they were produced.

It isn't much different than the filler used in other products to increase yield.

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Eager_Igraine posted:

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I believe that mechanically separated meat is no longer usable as people food, but this thread is really about pink slime which is a different product, although almost as nasty.

Better labeling is an excellent solution.

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Fist_de_Yuma posted:

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bla bla bla blah blah. Liberals... blah blah blablabla... slander.... blah blah blah...sadly... blah blah blah possible quote from a right wing fringe group web site or newsletter... blah blah blah

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Tych2 posted:

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No one wants to eat pink slime you dumbass.

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Ptilk posted:

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I eat potted meat and enjoy it.

It's not like the other food you buy in bags from the freezer section aren't full of disgusting crap that you would prefer not to think about.

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Azure-TheBlueOne posted:

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Maybe the fact that it has to be passed through ammonia gas to be edible?

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Blue_arrow posted:

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ABC screem about "so called racist" ICE raids on meat packing plants then ABC truns around with two little words wipes out the mexican work force in a single blow ......"Pink Slime "



now thats some funny crap right there !!

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Cerantos posted:

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Azure-TheBlueOne posted:

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Maybe the fact that it has to be passed through ammonia gas to be edible?

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I didn't read the whole thread but it doesnt have to be passed through ammonia to be edible.

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Cerantos posted:

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The ammonia is used to kill bacteria. Remember all the ecoli outbreaks

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Azure-TheBlueOne posted:

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Cerantos posted:

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Azure-TheBlueOne posted:

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Maybe the fact that it has to be passed through ammonia gas to be edible?

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I didn't read the whole thread but it doesnt have to be passed through ammonia to be edible.

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Cerantos posted:

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The ammonia is used to kill bacteria. Remember all the ecoli outbreaks

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And do you know why they want to kill all the bacteria with ammonia (which normal beef doesn't have to be subject to, btw)?


Perhaps to make it fit for human consumption. Ie. Edible.

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eodoll posted:

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Bush and the f-tard republicans let the food industry put crap in our food products and not label it. It's complete BS and really angers me.

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eodoll posted:

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Actually there were a lot of beef based outbreaks when Bush started deregulating the beef industry. (In fact, I stopped eating beef for about a year during that time)

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eodoll posted:

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Remember the mad cow scare? We started importing a lot of bad meat and due to Bush's deregulations the beef industry started cutting corners in how they fed and tested animals or chose animals for slaughter. Bush started deregulating and all kinds of concerns arose during 2004 or so.

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Blue_arrow posted:

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hamburger is ground giving it a very large and exposed surface area than steaks and roasts

http://www.ehow.com/facts_6780999_food-poisoning_-beef.html


Ground Beef
The primary source of beef-related food-borne illness, ground beef poses a greater risk for contamination than other beef products. The meat grinding process results in a larger surface area, leaving a greater portion of meat exposed to air. This exposure exponentially increases the surface available for potential contamination.

Additionally, unless labeled as ground chuck, ground beef typically consists of an amalgamation of usable trim from other cuts of beef. Although commonly practiced and not inherently dangerous, this method increases the number of animals contributing to one product, which could potentially increase the presence of contaminants.

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Yukishiro1 posted:

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Uh the outrage is around the lack of labeling. You can't be this dense.

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Yukishiro1 posted:

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Uh no. Label it in such a way that people know it isn't just ground up beef, it's ground beef thats been adulterated with a chemically seperated and processed meat additive.

If you're going to adulterate your ground beef with that stuff you should have to admit it.

If pink slime is really such a boon to society people should still buy it because it'll make the meat cheaper.

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Yukishiro1 posted:

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It's not just ground up beef. It's been chemically seperated and treated.

When people buy ground beef they think they're getting beef that's been ground. Not beef that's been chemically seperated and treated.

Maybe you really are this dense.

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Ptilk posted:

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I actually eat very little processed foods and the only things from the freezer section you will find in my house are frozen spinach and peas....and the occasional quart of Ben and Jerry's.

I just happen to like potted meat on crackers from time to time (with yellow mustard and diced onions).

Got a HUUUUGE garden going in this year. Still have a ton of canned stuff from last years garden...which was a lot smaller. Planning on putting in 200 tomato plants this year and already have almost an acre of turnips and beets in the ground.

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Yukishiro1 posted:

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It's not just ground up beef. It's been chemically seperated and treated.

When people buy ground beef they think they're getting beef that's been ground. Not beef that's been chemically seperated and treated.

Maybe you really are this dense.

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GrilledCheez posted:

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Yukishiro1 posted:

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It's not just ground up beef. It's been chemically seperated and treated.

When people buy ground beef they think they're getting beef that's been ground. Not beef that's been chemically seperated and treated.

Maybe you really are this dense.

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There is TONS of processing that happens to meat. I think your "what people expect" line of reasoning is pretty dum. most people don't have a clue what happens between cow and supermarket. but all the sudden them not knowing this thing is a super duper breach of soemthing. trustiness maybe,

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GrilledCheez posted:

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HOT DOG MAKERS SHOULD HAVE TO LIST EVERY GROSS THING IMN HOT DOGS! GROSS THINGS MUST BE DISCLOSED ALL GROSS OR ICKY THINGS!

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Cerantos posted:

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So you support companies pulling ground beef that's affordable and safe off of the shelves.

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Yukishiro1 posted:

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Cerantos posted:

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So you support companies pulling ground beef that's affordable and safe off of the shelves.

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No. I support relabeling it so people can make informed decisions. I thought I made that clear in the other 10 posts I've made in this thread.

You seem pretty dumb.

Pink slime is not ground beef. It's something else. If pink slime is great for America people will still buy their ground beef even if the maker is honest about it and admits its 25% pink slime.

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Yukishiro1 posted:

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Cerantos posted:

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So you support companies pulling ground beef that's affordable and safe off of the shelves.

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No. I support relabeling it so people can make informed decisions. I thought I made that clear in the other 10 posts I've made in this thread.

You seem pretty dumb.

Pink slime is not ground beef. It's something else. If pink slime is great for America people will still buy their ground beef even if the maker is honest about it and admits its 25% pink slime.

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GrilledCheez posted:

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Yukishiro1 posted:

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Cerantos posted:

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So you support companies pulling ground beef that's affordable and safe off of the shelves.

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No. I support relabeling it so people can make informed decisions. I thought I made that clear in the other 10 posts I've made in this thread.

You seem pretty dumb.

Pink slime is not ground beef. It's something else. If pink slime is great for America people will still buy their ground beef even if the maker is honest about it and admits its 25% pink slime.

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pink slime is still beef. If they run water over beef it doesn't cease being beef. If they mix water in while they grind it it doesn't cease being beef. If they mix water in then run it off it is the exact beef you started with. if they mix water now with a little soap that does nothing but kill things that aren't beef, how can you be left with less beef than with the water alone?

I don't get your it's not beef argument at all. none of your arguments in this thread make sense Yuki. Are you feeling ok? HAs the knowledge of pink slime given you the vapors?

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GrilledCheez posted:

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pink slime is still beef. If they run water over beef it doesn't cease being beef. If they mix water in while they grind it it doesn't cease being beef. If they mix water in then run it off it is the exact beef you started with. if they mix water now with a little soap that does nothing but kill things that aren't beef, how can you be left with less beef than with the water alone?

I don't get your it's not beef argument at all. none of your arguments in this thread make sense Yuki. Are you feeling ok? HAs the knowledge of pink slime given you the vapors?

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GrilledCheez posted:

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was it ground?

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eodoll posted:

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The truth shouldnt hurt anyone. if the cost of griund beef rises then thats not the worst thing.

the mcdonalds quality beef is quite liw in nutritional balue. vegetable patties would be better.

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Fist_de_Yuma posted:

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Eager_Igraine posted:

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Fist_de_Yuma posted:

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I read it. Nothing new to me. I have known for some time now that the making of a product is not ways pretty. I go with the end results. Sadly we have people who would rather slander others than open their minds. It is why networks like ABC are still running. Anyone that can do fact checking would have turned them off long ago.

Of course they would rather read slanted rants about Fox News than every watch something for themselves and decide.

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So your contention is that reporting the process by which the meat product is created, and from what, is slander? If you are correct, I imagine we will be seeing a slew of law suits against ABC, right?

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Calling it "red slime" and reporting on it as often as they did is hardly trying to make people aware. They are trying to shut them down; and get themselves a new award in the process. It has nothing to do with "information" and everything to do with ratings.

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Tych2 posted:

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No one wants to eat pink slime you dumbass.

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Koneg posted:

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Tych2 posted:

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No one wants to eat pink slime you dumbass.

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As it is pure lean beef with almost zero fat content, why not? Because it looks weird when it's uncooked? WTF?

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Grymlo posted:

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Koneg posted:

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Tych2 posted:

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No one wants to eat pink slime you dumbass.

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As it is pure lean beef with almost zero fat content, why not? Because it looks weird when it's uncooked? WTF?

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Probably because of the chemicals its treated with

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